Comments by "Emanon" (@Emanon...) on "Whatifalthist"
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Point 6: African exploitation.
I see your point if you look at it from a purely "state investment" perspective.
That is, however, a misleading argument to make.
Every aspect of life, from race, to culture, to religion, to language was impacted by European colonization.
It persists to this day where powerful corporations and/or states exploit the division and corruption of actors to exploit a region, often at a wholesale detriment to the local population. Oil, minerals, rubber, coffee, cocoa, gems are being extracted in an exploitative manner to this day.
Heck, Elon Musk inherited his wealth from African slave labor in the mines in South Africa.
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From an American perspective, I don't see how you can view large areas of mainland Europe as being "Rightist". Most conservatives in Europe would be considered social democrats in the USA.
Almost all core "Western" liberal democracies have established, and uncontroversial, expansive "leftist" policies when it comes to public services ie transportation, education, health, pension, labour rights etc...
Sure, when it comes to ethnonationalism and migration, there's been a swing of the pendulum to the right, but all the basic policies are still very much "leftist" and gaining further traction when it comes to climate, energy, corporations and tax havens.
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"Gold from the Spanish Empire ended in Spain and Italy and their economies stalled, whilst England and The Netherlands went through massive development"
Exactly. The vast wealth was used to buy goods from France and Northern Europe which spurred the development of industry, innovation and banking in those regions. Incidentally, the largest and wealthiest empires of the time were England, France and the Netherlands...
It's very hard to explain these points in a couple of minutes, and kudos for trying, but you're making exceptions when it's convenient and cherrypicking facts to support your statements.
"Exploitation" is not only measured in state finances, but the detrimental social and economic impact it had on the affected regions and the political instability instituted indirectly after decolonization.
South Africa, Zimbabwe, India/Pakistan, Congo, Nigeria, Haiti, Central America etc.
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