Comments by "Emanon" (@Emanon...) on "Fire of Learning"
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@arthurtorin8776 Thank you for a well thought out reply.
My point is not that of "Slavery bad. White people slavery worst."
It can be summed up in 2 different points
1) Modern concepts of Eugenics, Racial Supremacy and Social Darwinism, Apartheid, Segregation used as recently as in our parents' lives.
Yes. We can hold them to a different standard because it wasn't ancient history.
Have you ever apologized for Hitler, Stalin or Pol Pot because "it was a different time with different standards". No? My point exactly. "Dark acts" are abhorrent and recognized as such by contemporaries. That includes slavery in the 1800's.
2) The very real day to day impact of said policies from Baltimore, Atlanta, Detroit to Dar Es Salaam, Capetown, Dhaka or Pnom Penh. At least the recognition of damages done in human lives would be appropriate.
Damages and restitution aside, would it hurt the prestige of modern "humane" democracies to acknowledge and apologize for these actions? No. Not slavery per se, but that is a good place to start.Then maybe apologize for Vietnam? Iraq? The French in Algeria? Brits in Rhodesia?
The "Whites" are the worst by sheer scale because of their hegemonic dominance for 300-400 years and the emergence of libertarian ideals contrary to that, and yet continuing with the views on racial inequality.
Also, scale matters, buddy.
Just as the Holocaust and the Holodomor are held up as the worst events in history - not the concentration camps in South Africa by the British in the 1890's or the Irish Famine. Scale matters.
Ps: The Neanderthals were a different species, not race. They went extinct not from conflict, but because we bred with them and sapiens had much higher birth rates.
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@matrinezkevin11492 Current slave trade. Interesting.
You mean women trafficked to the west for prostitution?
Organ sales from Chinese political prisoners?
Abducted children sold to western agencies for adoption?
Hell... I'll go even lower and say this:
Having two jobs, no healthcare and barely affording food and rent, while your employer in Amazon and Walmart have record profits every year?
Yeah, mate. Modern slavery is completely abolished in the West...
My original comment was regarding how Greeks lift up Rome and are derogatory towards Persia, when they were clearly more civilised.
Also, I'm not defending backwards Muslim countries, but relatively, Muslim Today still have more rights than they ever had under Roman and especially greek law.
It's a good thing that the Greeks became less Greek, but their antipathy towards other cultures (and it really is all of them - Slavs, Albanians, Turks) is unproductive and speaks of how immensely arrogant the tiny Lilliputian nation of modern Greece sees itself today.
And I love the Greek people. I volunteered in 2016 to help Greece during the refugee crisis. They're a lovely people, but they really need to lose their self-image of being a great culture. They're lovely, fascinating and unique, but not important or powerful.
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