Comments by "Emanon" (@Emanon...) on "Pre-Islamic history of the Middle East" video.
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Yeah, that's a shit argument.
First of all, you can use the correct name. Persia is the Greek name for your lands.
If Persian empires were so stable, why the fuck did you have so many of them? And dynastic stuggles within at almost every turn? With regards to the diaspora - how much of their Fars heritage have been kept? Not much, brother...
I honestly don't care about Islam in Iran. But to solely blame a foreign invader 1400 years ago is a bit much, no? Just like Christians blaming Jews for Christ or Muslims blaming the Crusades....
And what about the Mongols? The Timurids? The Mughals then?
I've met a lot of Iranians who, first of all, say they are "Persian" and secondly, simply don't know their own history. Be critical, thats fine.
But stop inciting religious or racial bigotry by claiming that your culture was "oh so superior back then" and solely putting the blame on others.
Why the fuck did you lose in only a couple of years, if you were so magnificent and stable and bla bla bla ? Huh? Why were your people converted so easily in a few generations?
Btw: I say the same to the Arabs who blame their decline on the Crusades, the Mongol invasions, and the Turks. And to the Jews about the destruction of their temple and their enslavement in Babylon.
Get. Over. It.
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Know your history, my brother.
The Arab empires 700-1100 (the decline coinciding with the rise of Al Ghazali), and in some case until the 12-1300's were beacons of learning, tolerance, debate and knowledge - From Andalusia to Sicily to Delhi.
They certainly weren't perfect, but compared to middle age Europe life was not bad...
If Islam was so "barbaric" how did it spread through trade and diplomacy to East Africa and Indonesia?
From a historic stand point I'm sorry that there isn't more left of the great Persian civilizations. But to put them on a piedestal and assume everything was fantastic is simply factually wrong.
The huge problem with Islam today, IMHO, is not the religion itself. Religion is malleable to the culture and will of its people. Just like ideology and technology.
It's the general exploitation and lack of education during and after the colonial and ottoman eras that really put a hurt on these vastly different regions - which they are yet to recover from.
Conservative Islam ie. Saudi Arabia and Iran are largely a nationalistic response in the aftermath of the colonial era. Where Europe used Fascism and Communism, the larger middle east chose to revive a conservative view of their religions - and replace it or their culture in some instances.
I see your points, but your views are sorely lacking the nuance of the factual historic events.
I'm guessing you are the sort that thinks "Religion is the root to all evil", am I right?
Again, that's an easy one-liner statement, that shows a blatant ignorance of history, culture and societies in general. Lastly: Arabs are not only Islam, Islam is not only Arabs, though they each play a major part in each others history.
And please refrain from openly racist language in the future. It's plainly hurtful and no way conducive to a proper discussion
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