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@jujuoliver6959 Find out about the Hitler-Pilsudski Pact, about Poland's attack on Czechoslovakia, about the oppression of national minorities in Poland, etc.
On March 16, 1934, the British news agency "Wick" reported that there was an agreement between Poland and Germany to attack the Soviet Union, and already jointly with Japan. According to these plans, Germany was to capture Leningrad, and then move to Moscow. Poland was tasked with striking in two directions — Moscow and Ukraine.
Poland pursued a Nazi policy, it officially refused to respect any rights of its national minorities at the international level. In June 1934, by a special decree of the government, the Kartuz-Bereza death camp was created, in which anyone who dared to doubt the correctness of the Polish national policy was placed. Poland became a real prison for the ethnic minorities living in it — Ukrainians, Belarusians, Germans, Jews, Lithuanians, who made up at least a third of the total population.
It is noteworthy that the idea of evicting Polish Jews to Madagascar was also supported by Hitler, who, meeting with the Polish ambassador in Berlin, said that this was where he saw the solution to the Jewish problem, that is, in the forced emigration of Jews from Poland, Hungary and Romania to overseas colonies...
The rapprochement between Poland and Germany began immediately after Hitler came to power. It was the Poles who were the first in the world to conclude a non-aggression pact with Hitler, thereby marking the beginning of international recognition of the Nazi regime. Poland, in addition, began to represent the interests of Germany in the League of Nations, from where the Nazis came out with a loud scandal. The Polish rulers invariably supported all of Hitler's foreign policy attacks without exception.
But the most important subject of the Polish-Nazi rapprochement was hatred of the Soviet Union. The official Polish military doctrine, prepared in 1938, stated: "The dismemberment of Russia is at the heart of Polish policy in the East... Therefore, our possible position will be reduced to the following formula: who will take part in the section. Poland should not remain passive at this remarkable historical moment. The task is to prepare well in advance physically and spiritually... The main goal is to weaken and defeat Russia."
In December 1938, a prominent Polish diplomat, Jan Karsho-Sedlevsky, frankly told one of his German colleagues: "The political perspective for the European East is clear. In a few years, Germany will be at war with the Soviet Union, and Poland will support Germany in this war. Poland's territorial interests in the East, primarily at the expense of Ukraine, can be secured only through a Polish-German agreement reached in advance."
The culmination of the Polish-Nazi friendship was the joint partition of Czechoslovakia. As you know, the beginning of this section was Germany's demands to transfer to it the Sudetenland of Czechoslovakia, populated mainly by Germans. At the height of the Sudeten crisis in September 1938, Poland presented the Czechs with a similar ultimatum on the "return" of the industrially developed Teszyn region, where many Poles lived.
Winston Churchill indignantly called Poland a state that, with the greed of a hyena, rushed to finish what the Nazis "did not finish" in Czechoslovakia.
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@jujuoliver6959 The USSR saved the Poles from complete annihilation. Hitler killed over 6 million Poles and planned to wipe out 80% of Poland's population. More than 600 thousand Russian soldiers died liberating Poland from the Nazis. And the Russians restored Poland, raised it from the ruins. The Russians built houses, hospitals, schools, factories, etc. for the Poles. And the Poles received free good housing, education, health care, etc. And when the USSR collapsed, the Polish nationalists wanted to demolish everything that was built by the Russians, but it turned out that they would have to demolish half of Poland. Therefore, they only demolish monuments and graves of Russian soldiers who died for the liberation of Poland ....
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@jujuoliver6959 Poland is at war with the memory of the Soviet era. What kind of memory is this?
First of all, it is the memory of the grandiose failure of Polish foreign policy and the terrible reckoning that followed. It was well known that for the German Nazis, the Polish Slavs were as subhuman as the Russians. Nevertheless, the Polish leadership preferred to be friends with Hitler. The non-Aggression pact with Nazi Germany was concluded back in 1934. When Hitler attacked Czechoslovakia in 1938, Poland not only refused to let the Soviet troops ready to advance to the aid of Czechoslovakia, but also took advantage of the situation to "bite off" the Tesin region from its helpless neighbor. There was an opportunity to nip Hitler in the bud. After all, he did not yet have that toothy army that later defeated France and was able to challenge the USSR. Hitler could have been defeated by small forces, but this opportunity was missed. Just a year later, Poland had to bitterly regret this decision.
The human losses of Poland during the German occupation were enormous – more than 6 million people with a population of 34 million. A huge number of Poles were exterminated in Nazi death camps. 140,000 Poles were killed in Auschwitz, 30,000 in Mauthausen, and so on. Moreover, the Nazis looted the country, took industrial equipment out of it, which our country then helped to return.
Sometimes they say that, they say, the USSR also stabbed in the back, but this is not so. Firstly, the USSR did not invade Poland. He regained western Ukraine and Belarus, which was under the occupation of Poland. The fact is that in 1919 the Supreme Council of the Entente determined the eastern border of Poland along the Curzon line. On July 10, 1920, the Polish leadership agreed to recognize this border. Accordingly, everything east of the Curzon Line was not part of Poland.
When the USSR sent troops into western Ukraine and Belarus, it did so after the Polish government was overthrown (i.e., the defeat of the Poles had already taken place). At the same time, the Soviet troops stood exactly along the Curzon line. The USSR bloodlessly regained illegally seized territories.
In 1946-1947, a terrible famine gripped the population of the globe. In the European countries destroyed by the war, not enough food products were produced. In the same year there was a crop failure in Argentina, Canada, Japan, and Southeast Asia. There was a drought in the USSR, and a lot of people were starving too. But, despite the fact that they did not have enough, the leadership of the USSR found an opportunity to help starving Poland with supplies of 938 thousand tons of grain.
The USSR helped Poland with interest-free loans, the USSR actively participated in the restoration of the destroyed Polish industry and the industrialization of the country.
By 1948, Warsaw had concluded an agreement with Moscow on the supply of Soviet industrial equipment worth almost half a billion US dollars (of course, the cost is indicated in dollars of the post-war sample), which eventually turned out to be free of charge in Poland. By 1949, the production of industrial products by Polish enterprises increased 2.5 times (per capita), the economic return on the sale of Polish industrial goods in comparison with the pre-war years increased by more than 200%!
The restoration of the architectural appearance of Warsaw was carried out under the supervision of the Polish architect Jan Grabatovich, who graduated from the St. Petersburg Institute of Civil Engineers at the time. Thanks to his cooperation with the architects of Leningrad in 1945-1950, it was possible to realize an architectural project of colossal scale and cost to recreate the historical appearance of Warsaw. For this purpose, documents that were at that time in the state archives of the USSR were also used. Polish builders of that time did not say in vain that half of the restored Warsaw would consist of Soviet cement and bricks.
As a result, the first three-year plan for the restoration of the Polish economy, developed by Warsaw and Moscow, was implemented ahead of schedule, after which a six-year stage of industrialization (1950-1955) began in Poland with the active financial and scientific support from the USSR. It was based on the Soviet experience. The main emphasis was placed on heavy industry and mechanical engineering. The results of industrialization were more than impressive. So, by 1955, Polish production in terms of its volumes increased 2.5 times compared to the indicators of the beginning of the six-year period (1950). By 1955, the number of agricultural cooperatives (a Polish innovation proposed by Moscow) had grown by 14.3 times compared to 1955.
Never in the history of independent Poland in the 20th and 21st centuries could the growth of industrial production compare with the indicators of 1946-1955, when Moscow directed the lion's share of investments into the country's economy. For comparison: the growth of Poland's industrial production within the EU averages 4.8%, and the growth of the country's industrial production in the period 1946-1955 was measured by tens of percent.
The cooperation continued further. Separate episodes of relations between the two countries are indicated in the BSE:
26.1.1948 agreement on the supply of industrial equipment to Poland on credit (the same 29.6.1950);
In 1949, the USSR, the People's Republic of Poland and other socialist countries created the Council of Mutual Economic Assistance.
05.04.1952 Agreement On the construction of a high-rise building of the Palace of Culture and Science in Warsaw by the forces and means of the USSR;
14.5.1955 signed the Warsaw Pact.
23.4.1955 Agreement on Assistance to the People's Republic of Poland in the Development of Research on Nuclear Physics and the Use of Atomic Energy for the Needs of the National Economy);
11.7.1956 Agreement on technical assistance in the Expansion of the V. I. Lenin Metallurgical Plant;
23.8.1957 agreement on mutual exchange of students, postgraduates of civil universities and persons sent for scientific specialization;
23.8.1958 agreement on technical assistance to the NDP in the construction of an oil refinery; 13.1.1965 agreement on cooperation in the field of radio broadcasting and television.
20.6.1967 agreement on further development of cooperation in the field of peaceful uses of atomic energy;
13.2.1968 agreement on cooperation in the construction of precast concrete products plants for industrial construction, large-panel housing construction and a plant for the production of expanded clay in the NDP;
5.2.1970 agreement on mutual visa-free travel of citizens of both states;
6.3.1972 agreement on economic and technical cooperation in the construction of the "Centrum" metallurgical plant in the NDP;
23.1. 1973 Agreement on cooperation in the construction of the Intersputnik Earth space communication station in the PNR;
6.7.1973 agreement on cooperation in the construction of the gas pipeline;
12/16/1975 agreement for 1976-1980 on Soviet supplies of complete facilities, equipment, and assistance from Soviet specialists to the People's Republic of Poland.
And these are not all the episodes that can be recalled.
For example, on January 23, 1959, the USSR transferred Oasis, a station in Antarctica, to the Polish Academy of Sciences.
The USSR provided very serious support to Poland during the economic crisis of the 80s. The total amount of gratuitous assistance is 7 billion rubles (in the currency of those years).
So, what does Poland want to forget about? About your own mistakes that led to a terrible tragedy? Or about the kind attitude of the "occupiers", about friendship with the USSR and their own black ingratitude?
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@mike_o7874 And here is how the SSSO "robbed" the Baltic states:
The "occupiers" not only did not take anything of value out of Latvia, but also invested money in Latvia more actively than in their own economy. In 1946-1985, 216 large industrial enterprises were built and restored.
Naturally, agriculture was also mechanized, and Latvian fishermen, who before the war sailed on their boats from the coast only a few kilometers, began to go for fish in the Atlantic Ocean, thanks to which the catch increased many times...
It was during the period of "Soviet occupation" that poliomyelitis, diphtheria, malaria, rabies, inherited from "independence", were liquidated ... The number of hospitals, schools, sanatoriums and other social institutions more than tripled, and the number of places in them increased by 30 or more once...
In total, in 1946-1989, fixed assets were put into operation in the Latvian economy totaling 37,902 million rubles (in 1984 prices). Considering that $1 in 1984 officially cost about 65 kopecks, it can be argued that the cost of all enterprises, hospitals, schools, apartments and everything else that was built in Latvia during the Soviet period amounted to almost $60 billion, or the average for $1.3 billion per year.
For example, now independent Latvia, having a Soviet material base behind it, makes only $300-400 million a year in state capital investments.
All the years of independence, Latvia (Estonia and Lithuania too!) did nothing but present us with a bill “for the occupation” and demanded repentance. And if the share of industry in the country's GDP before the collapse of the USSR was 38%, then in the 1990s. it has already fallen to 20%, and during its stay in the European Union (since 2004) it has fallen to 9%. Modern Western studies point directly to the fundamental dependence of the Baltic economies on EU subsidies.
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@mike_o7874 But about Lithuania:
The territory of Lithuania was occupied by German troops in July 1941. During the occupation, the Germans burned 20 villages, burned and destroyed 80 thousand buildings (including 2 thousand buildings of industrial enterprises, 56 power plants, 72 hospitals, polyclinics and outpatient clinics, 712 schools, 15 scientific institutions, 26 thousand residential buildings, theaters, clubs, etc.), Klaipeda river and sea ports, rolling stock was stolen to Germany and railways were destroyed.
The whole country helped to restore the national economy of Lithuania — the Soviet government allocated a grant of 200 million rubles for this purpose. By 1948, the Lithuanian industry was restored and reached the pre-war level, and in 1950 exceeded it by 90%.
In just five years from 1951 to 1956, the number of secondary schools in Lithuania increased from 3,720 to 4,071. In Lithuania in 1989 there were 13 higher educational institutions and 62 secondary specialized educational institutions. Under Soviet rule, Lithuania became a country of continuous literacy and was ahead of Japan, Great Britain and Germany in terms of the number of students by 10 thousand inhabitants.
If scientific work in the field of natural science and technology developed poorly in pre—war Lithuania — several small experimental stations functioned, then in Soviet times the Lithuanian Academy of Sciences was established, including a well-developed network of well-equipped research institutions - institutes, laboratories, centers. If at the end of 1940 there were 623 researchers in Lithuania, then in 1973 the number of researchers working in 88 scientific institutions exceeded 10.2 thousand people.
During the Soviet period, national theaters, numerous cultural and educational institutions, clubs, palaces of culture, houses of pioneers, stations of young technicians, young naturalists, mass libraries were created in Lithuania, the Lithuanian Film Studio, which became famous, annually produced several feature films, was created. A powerful printing base was built, books in Lithuanian were published in mass editions, and the number of periodicals was constantly growing. In 1974 A new building of the Lithuanian National Opera and Ballet Theater was built in Vilnius — one of the best in Europe in terms of its acoustic characteristics, with a spacious foyer and an auditorium for 1,150 seats. In 1981, a new building of the Lithuanian National Drama Theater, the Panevezhsky Drama Theater, was built in Vilnius. The Sports Palace and one of the tallest TV towers in Europe were built.
Much attention was paid to medical care and recreation of the population. In Soviet times, numerous sanatoriums, boarding houses and rest homes were built in the resort towns of Druskininkai, Birshtonas, primorsky Palanga and Nida.
In terms of the number of doctors per ten thousand inhabitants, Lithuania occupied one of the first places in Europe. In short, both the economic and social spheres of Lithuania received rapid development during their stay in the USSR.
At the same time, the average salary level in the Baltic States was three times higher than in the Russian Federation and Belarus.
But retail prices, tariffs for electricity, transport, rent, and other rates in the Baltic republics were twice lower than in the RSFSR and Belarus. In the USSR, the Baltic republics were created the most favorable conditions.
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@mike_o7874 But about Poland:
Poland is at war with the memory of the Soviet era. What kind of memory is this?
First of all, it is the memory of the grandiose failure of Polish foreign policy and the terrible reckoning that followed. It was well known that for the German Nazis, the Polish Slavs were as subhuman as the Russians. Nevertheless, the Polish leadership preferred to be friends with Hitler. The non-Aggression pact with Nazi Germany was concluded back in 1934. When Hitler attacked Czechoslovakia in 1938, Poland not only refused to let the Soviet troops ready to advance to the aid of Czechoslovakia, but also took advantage of the situation to "bite off" the Tesin region from its helpless neighbor. There was an opportunity to nip Hitler in the bud. After all, he did not yet have that toothy army that later defeated France and was able to challenge the USSR. Hitler could have been defeated by small forces, but this opportunity was missed. Just a year later, Poland had to bitterly regret this decision.
The human losses of Poland during the German occupation were enormous – more than 6 million people with a population of 34 million. A huge number of Poles were exterminated in Nazi death camps. 140,000 Poles were killed in Auschwitz, 30,000 in Mauthausen, and so on. Moreover, the Nazis looted the country, took industrial equipment out of it, which our country then helped to return.
Sometimes they say that, they say, the USSR also stabbed in the back, but this is not so. Firstly, the USSR did not invade Poland. He regained western Ukraine and Belarus, which was under the occupation of Poland. The fact is that in 1919 the Supreme Council of the Entente determined the eastern border of Poland along the Curzon line. On July 10, 1920, the Polish leadership agreed to recognize this border. Accordingly, everything east of the Curzon Line was not part of Poland.
When the USSR sent troops into western Ukraine and Belarus, it did so after the Polish government was overthrown (i.e., the defeat of the Poles had already taken place). At the same time, the Soviet troops stood exactly along the Curzon line. The USSR bloodlessly regained the illegally seized territories.
In 1946-1947, a terrible famine gripped the population of the globe. In the European countries destroyed by the war, not enough food products were produced. In the same year there was a crop failure in Argentina, Canada, Japan, and Southeast Asia. There was a drought in the USSR, and a lot of people were starving too. But, despite the fact that they did not have enough, the leadership of the USSR found an opportunity to help starving Poland with supplies of 938 thousand tons of grain.
The USSR helped Poland with interest-free loans, the USSR actively participated in the restoration of the destroyed Polish industry and the industrialization of the country.
By 1948, Warsaw had concluded an agreement with Moscow on the supply of Soviet industrial equipment worth almost half a billion US dollars (of course, the cost is indicated in dollars of the post-war sample), which eventually turned out to be free of charge in Poland. By 1949, the production of industrial products by Polish enterprises increased 2.5 times (per capita), the economic return on the sale of Polish industrial goods in comparison with the pre-war years increased by more than 200%!
The restoration of the architectural appearance of Warsaw was carried out under the supervision of the Polish architect Jan Grabatovich, who graduated from the St. Petersburg Institute of Civil Engineers at the time. Thanks to his cooperation with the architects of Leningrad in 1945-1950, it was possible to realize an architectural project of colossal scale and cost to recreate the historical appearance of Warsaw. For this purpose, documents that were at that time in the state archives of the USSR were also used. Polish builders of that time did not say in vain that half of the restored Warsaw would consist of Soviet cement and bricks.
As a result, the first three-year plan for the restoration of the Polish economy, developed by Warsaw and Moscow, was implemented ahead of schedule, after which a six-year stage of industrialization (1950-1955) began in Poland with the active financial and scientific support from the USSR. It was based on the Soviet experience. The main emphasis was placed on heavy industry and mechanical engineering. The results of industrialization were more than impressive. So, by 1955, Polish production in terms of its volumes increased 2.5 times compared to the indicators of the beginning of the six-year period (1950). By 1955, the number of agricultural cooperatives (a Polish innovation proposed by Moscow) had grown by 14.3 times compared to 1955.
Never in the history of independent Poland in the 20th and 21st centuries could the growth of industrial production compare with the indicators of 1946-1955, when Moscow directed the lion's share of investments into the country's economy. For comparison: the growth of Poland's industrial production within the EU averages 4.8%, and the growth of the country's industrial production in the period 1946-1955 was measured by tens of percent.
The cooperation continued further. Separate episodes of relations between the two countries are indicated in the BSE:
26.1.1948 agreement on the supply of industrial equipment to Poland on credit (the same 29.6.1950);
In 1949, the USSR, the People's Republic of Poland and other socialist countries created the Council of Mutual Economic Assistance.
05.04.1952 Agreement On the construction of a high-rise building of the Palace of Culture and Science in Warsaw by the forces and means of the USSR;
14.5.1955 signed the Warsaw Pact.
23.4.1955 Agreement on Assistance to the People's Republic of Poland in the Development of Research on Nuclear Physics and the Use of Atomic Energy for the Needs of the National Economy);
11.7.1956 Agreement on technical assistance in the Expansion of the V. I. Lenin Metallurgical Plant;
23.8.1957 agreement on mutual exchange of students, postgraduates of civil universities and persons sent for scientific specialization;
23.8.1958 agreement on technical assistance to the NDP in the construction of an oil refinery; 13.1.1965 agreement on cooperation in the field of radio broadcasting and television.
20.6.1967 agreement on further development of cooperation in the field of peaceful uses of atomic energy;
13.2.1968 agreement on cooperation in the construction of precast concrete products factories for industrial construction, large-panel housing construction and a plant for the production of expanded clay in the NDP;
5.2.1970 agreement on mutual visa-free travel of citizens of both states;
6.3.1972 agreement on economic and technical cooperation in the construction of the Centrum Metallurgical plant in the NDP;
23.1. 1973 Agreement on cooperation in the construction of the Intersputnik Earth space communication station in the PNR;
6.7.1973 agreement on cooperation in the construction of the gas pipeline;
12/16/1975 agreement for 1976-1980 on Soviet supplies of complete facilities, equipment, and assistance from Soviet specialists to the People's Republic of Poland.
And these are not all the episodes that can be remembered.
For example, on January 23, 1959, the USSR transferred Oasis, a station in Antarctica, to the Polish Academy of Sciences.
The USSR provided very serious support to Poland during the economic crisis of the 80s. The total amount of gratuitous assistance is 7 billion rubles (in the currency of those years).
So, what does Poland want to forget about? About your own mistakes that led to a terrible tragedy? Or about the kind attitude of the "occupiers", about friendship with the USSR and their own black ingratitude?
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@dorotazapolnik234 You don't know anything and you don't know how to think and analyze. You're just stupidly repeating idiotic Western anti-Russian propaganda.
All Soviet countries lived in the USSR much better and richer than they do now. Ukraine had more than 50 million people and developed industry and agriculture. Ukraine produced airplanes, ships, cars, machine tools and many other high-tech products. Ukrainians received good free housing, education, healthcare, etc.. But after the invasion of the West, Ukraine turned into an impoverished ruin. The entire industry and economy are destroyed. And the population by 2013 was 40 million people.
And in 2013, the United States carried out a color revolution in Ukraine, brought the Nazis to power and unleashed a civil war. The Ukrainian-NATO Nazi regime bombed Donbass for 9 years and killed civilians in Ukraine.
And by 2021, there are about 30 million people left in Ukraine. More than 20 million Ukrainians left Ukraine for other countries, but most of all for Russia. This is the result of Western intervention. The West has destroyed Ukraine like Libya, Syria, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Somalia, Yemen and dozens of other countries. And the West does all its crimes under the false flag of the "struggle for democracy". And at the same time, Western criminals blame Russia!
I repeat - Russia is now helping Ukrainians liberate the country from Western terrorists and the Nazi regime. Ukrainians and Russians are fighting together against Western Nazi terrorists.
And yes, the Russians are already building and restoring Ukrainian cities destroyed by NATO bombing. And Ukrainians in the liberated territories are already receiving Russian citizenship.
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