Comments by "David Getling" (@DavidGetling) on "ZOE" channel.

  1. Actually equating more in vitro antibodies with immunity is complete nonsense. Once you have enough to do the job that's fine. This fetish with keeping antibody count sky high is like saying that while a bowl of water will put out a trash can fire, taking a fire hose to it would be better. Repeated boosters may in fact be dangerous, as nature, with over a billion years of evolution to practice with, doesn't do it this way.
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  2. The exact wording used by South African doctors to describe this variant is EXTREMELY MILD. This looks more and more likely by the day. If this is indeed the case then the last thing we want is Bogus Boris stopping its spread, because it has the very real potential to displace more dangerous variants, and maybe even SAFELY bestow PROPER NATURAL IMMUNITY on many millions.
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  3. You know Tim, I was really amused (and a bit angry) to hear some so-called scientists saying we now have exponential growth in infections. You and I both know, by just a quick glance at the data, that we could do a linear regression on the last few weeks of data. We would get a very gentle slope and a correlation close to 1, which would also pass a 95% confidence test for being so. To present this data as exponential growth is outrageous scaremongering. I'm glad you mention the age groups getting infected because, as we all know by now, almost all younger people just shrug off this virus, so it really doesn't matter how many of them are infected. One can look at it as mother nature vaccinating them. Your comparison with road traffic accidents made me smile. Myself, and no doubt others, made exactly this observation a few weeks ago. Perhaps the scaredy cat SAGE scientists would like to recommend a ban on motoring. As for naming these variants, I would suggest names like Tinkerbell and Pinocchio. This gives a much better idea about how much we should be worried by them.
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  4. Let's look at the facts that really matter: 1. If people didn't have the Delta variant then they would very likely have another variant. 2. No variant has been shown to be more deadly. 3. If you have previously had covid-19, and hence now have excellent natural immunity, or you have had both jabs, then you are extremely unlikely to catch any covid-19 variant. In such cases all a positive PCR test really shows is that you have a few virus particles that your immune system will soon destroy, or you have the left over fragments that your immune system has already destroyed: you almost certainly don't have covid-19. 4. Hospitalisations and deaths are remaining very low. Singapore has just decided to do what we all should have done ages ago: treat covid-19 like a seasonal flu. It's game over, and time everyone came out to play again. Of course, snowflakes are free to stay at home cowering behind the couch.
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  5. Tim, 25% sounds about the number who would have already had natural immunity, and therefore never needed the vaccine in the first place. As you yourself just said, side effects are definitely more common in those with natural immunity, which is really no surprise. The bottom line is that by vaccinating such people we are causing them suffering that gives them absolutely no benefit by way of compensation. I needn't tell you that this goes completely against medical ethics. However, far more concerning are plans to vaccinate those under 30 (maybe even under 40). It may well benefit this very low risk group if they catch covid-19 and develop natural immunity. The vaccines only target one viral antigen, but their own immune system would probably target quite a few. This could mean far better immunity that could protect them for a lot longer and confer superior immunity to future variants and similar viruses. So by vaccinating this group we may well being doing them harm in the longer term: possibly very serious harm.
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  6. This is why you don't stuff your face with chocolate, crisps and cream cakes. It is a well established fact that being fat has an adverse effect on the immune system: it's not just a covid thing. And as we all know, losing the blubber is much harder than gaining it. Parents who love their kids should try much harder to give them a balanced diet and make sure they do plenty of exercise.
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  7. @Tom You really don't understand (or want to). This variant doesn't appear to be killing or hospitalising people AT ALL. So if it spreads quickly and replaces other variants it may well reduce deaths and hospitalisations.
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  8. Short of putting ministers on the rack, they will never admit how good natural immunity is, because of the implications. Right at the start of the pandemic the REAL experts told governments that lockdowns would not work, but just cause untold damage. They were advised to just isolate the most vulnerable until natural herd immunity developed. This same advice was published months later, for all to see, in the Great Barrington Declaration. The incredibly low IFR, less than 0.3%, and rock solid natural immunity shows that the advice in the GBD was spot on. But does anyone really expect sleazy ministers to admit that their insane lockdowns were wrong. No matter what the cost, they are determined to con everyone into believing that vaccines have saved them, and that lockdowns were necessary until they were available. This is a monstrous lie!
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  9.  @barbaraneville5036  The honest and decent scientists and doctors, who are not in their governments' pockets will tell you the truth, but sadly they are few and far between.
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  10. Sadly, most people only get their information from a corrupt BBC, and believe every word.
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  11.  @mail4lana  I can't imagine any decent parent giving their child a vaccine that hasn't undergone years of testing, when this virus poses such a tiny risk to them.
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  12. So yet again it's time to talk about what governments hate to hear mentioned: NATURAL IMMUNITY. Two large and highly respected studies in Israel and Cleveland suggest that natural immunity is better than vaccination, and may well last a lifetime. Governments completely ignored these studies. In stark contrast they enthusiastically embraced a study from Kentucky that slightly favoured vaccines. But the thing is that the Kentucky study was very much smaller, far less reliable, and even the researches pointed out lots of its shortcomings. So, yet again, it seems that the advice, given very early on to governments, and later published in the Great Barrington Declaration, was the correct strategy. Namely, just isolate the most vulnerable, and let everyone else get on with their lives until NATURAL herd immunity develops. With the dwindling effectiveness of vaccine generated immunity it's looking more likely by the day that corrupt politicians will eventually be force to follow the advice in the GBD. The only question is how much more damage they will be allowed to do, in their cowardly effort to cover up their incompetence. Vaccines still have a role. They should just be administered to the most vulnerable, along with booster shots. Most of us don't need or want them, and the fact that they haven't undergone the usual minimum of 4 years SAFETY TRIALS does nothing to recommend them.
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  13. An idiotic comment, by a frightened person. We would be over this now if governments hadn't pandered to those who are frightened of their own shadow, and adopted the strategy recommended in the Great Barrington Declaration.
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  14. ​ @osterlaich6395  Too stupid to google Great Barrington Declaration? And too cowardly not to be scared of something that kills about 1 or 2 in 1000 who are mainly very old and/or very sick?
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  15. Probably hay fever.
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  16. So, let me interpret the first bit of what you said. Although the Indian variant seems to be displacing the Kent variant, infection numbers are stable. This seems to suggest that we are simply seeing a different variant doing exactly the same thing. Rather like a gang turf war, where the amount or kind of crime doesn't change, just who is doing it. Tim, as you and I both understand, wide confidence limits represent very questionable proof. Also, what hasn't been done is a parallel comparison of infection rates for the Kent or other variants. I strongly suspect that if we could compare them all to one another the results would all fall very comfortably within one another's 95% confidence limits. Unfortunately most people reading this won't have a clue what I'm talking about. However the bottom line would be that there is no strong evidence that vaccines are any less effective against any variant. The connection with obesity is really interesting. The UK has one of the highest fatality rates in Europe, but equally it has by far the greatest proportion of fat people. Coming back after living in New Zealand, Germany and Italy this was something that was very hard to miss. Normalising being fat is not doing UK people any favours. Finally, on "long covid" am I the only one who recalls how people used to say "I still haven't fully got over that flu I had a few months ago". Are we really actually seeing anything new, or worth worrying about?
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  17. Congratulations. You probably now have rock solid natural immunity, which is vastly better than anything you would get from these poorly tested vaccines. Your "I've had worse colds" comment is exactly what has these despots pissing themselves.
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  18. The variant that the Vietnamese government is claiming as a hybrid of the Kent and Indian variants. A good name for this would be the Pinocchio variant.
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  19. The risk that this virus poses to children is negligible. In fact, and seasonal flu actually poses a greater risk to young people. Because we are dealing with very large numbers you will get some children in hospital, and a few will even die, and with older people now vaccinated the percentage of children we see in hospital will increase. Contrary to what dishonest scaremongers would have you believe the risk to kids is not increasing. Large and reputable studies in both Israel and Cleveland appear to show that natural immunity is superior to that conferred by vaccination, and may well last a lifetime. It is totally unethical to vaccinate kids.
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  20. Let's go through some of what Tom has said today in response to the first three questions. With regard to antibodies it is very well know among those with some knowledge of biology that antibody count declines with time, and may disappear completely. What this emphatically does not mean is that you are no longer immune. There are things like memory T-cells that may well hang around for the rest of your life. If you are exposed to the virus (or sometimes just a similar one) again then your immune system will very quickly churn out fresh antibodies. As part of the government's scaremongering any mention of this has been assiduously avoided. Related to the second question is the now well established fact that systemic side effects, from vaccination, are much more common and severe in people who have previously had covid-19, as opposed to those who have never been infected. This is an immune response to the antigens produced by the vaccine that you didn't need, because you were already immune. Tom gives a good honest answer to the third question, about vaccinated (or naturally immune) people spreading the virus. I spit curses every time that I see Boris wearing a mask or bumping elbows. This is pure propaganda. As soon as he came out of hospital he was immune and so he could have gone round French kissing people with almost negligible risk of them catching covid-19.
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  21.  @grahamstull2330  Yes I suppose it was a bit thoughtless. Somebody might have been eating then dinner when I evoked that image.
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  22. A lot of how a virus spreads is down to networking. Is there any reason to believe that those coming back from India would not have spread whatever variant was dominant over there? Also, even if one variant is better at latching on to us than another, can we really say that a person wouldn't simply have caught a different one in its absence. It seems to me that it's a bit like removing the winner from a race; we simply end up with a different winner. Those of us lacking bright yellow streaks down our back are inclined to think that the fuss made over variants is very much like the fuss Chicken Little made when an acorn fell on his head.😉
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  23. Telling the truth about the Indian variant. How the government and media must hate you for ruining their groundless scaremongering. The question about cleaning groceries or post really cracked me up. Throughout this headless chicken panic I've been carrying on shopping without any changes whatsoever to my routine, other than having the needless inconvenience of having to queue to get into shops.
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  24. Well the UK is stuffed to the gills with frightened morons. So it isn't very hard for the government to scare them into giving up there freedoms.
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  25. Being old enough to have had my smallpox vaccine I wouldn't be concerned even if we were seeing tens of thousands of cases. Unlike the covid-19 vaccines, that was one worth having.
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  26. The waning efficacy of vaccines means we really need to look at how good natural immunity is. I gather there have been at least 3 prominent studies into this. Israel and Cleveland performed very large and well regarded studies that suggest natural immunity is better than vaccination. Both these studies have been totally disregarded by governments. Kentucky performed a much smaller study, which is not well regarded, and was heavily criticised, but as it favours vaccines over natural immunity governments warmly embraced it. It really does seem that the longer this goes on, and the more we learn, the clearer it becomes that the strategy advised in the Great Barrington Declaration is the right one. Sooner or later corrupt governments are going to be forced to accept this, it's just a question of how much more damage they will do first. You can deny and try to hide the facts as much as you like, but this never gets rid of them, and eventually you have to confront them.
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  27. Chris, as we all know by now, governments do everything in their power to suppress any good news about natural immunity. Just look at how they ignored the large and highly regarded Israeli and Cleveland studies, in favour of the small and heavily criticised Kentucky study.
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  28. What kind of complete imbecile thinks that over 99% of the population should have their lives turned upside down for the sake of a fraction of 1%. THEY are the ones that need to change their behaviour.
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  29. "Be really cautious" Absolutely not! Omicron is EXTREMELY MILD. As such it offers the very real prospect of quickly and SAFELY spreading herd immunity, and bringing this pandemic to an end. Rather than idiotic sheep queuing up for boosters we should be having "catch Omicron" parties.
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  30.  @graemebarriball303  You can't reason with a gibbering coward.😊
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  31. No vaccine, no booster, and no mask for me, thanks.
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  32. It's a real shame if we are past the peak. The faster all those without proper natural immunity catch Omicron, the faster they are going to gain the robust immunity that will end this pandemic.
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  33.  @ks-hg5vo  Another good question is how these 1 in 5 recovered without making antibodies. The simple answer to both these and similar questions is that government and their lapdog scientists are LYING!
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  34.  @chrisstephens6194  Absolutely right. These people are being vaccinated purely for the benefit of others, and at unnecessary risk to themselves. This is Dr. Mengele stuff.
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  35. ​ @whatsupchannel3047  If you Google "covid T-cell immunity" you should be able to find a few places that now test for long term immunity. If you have this immunity then you definitely don't need the vaccine: no ifs, no buts, no maybes.
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  36. Delta represents a negligible threat to kids. If they catch it they will shrug it off, and then have excellent immunity. They need to be left alone to enjoy their childhood!
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  37. Does anyone really care anymore? Only the most incontinent of bed-wetters will be wringing their hands. I've never worried about this virus, or bothered with any of the rushed through vaccines.
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  38. Absolutely correct!
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  39. Be happy! All these people will soon have PROPER immunity.
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  40. Children are still at negligible risk. Almost all will shrug off covid-19 very easily, and then have brilliant natural immunity. Don't let the Dr. Mengeles vaccinate your kids, if you love them.
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  41. Tim, one likelihood of catching covid-19 that you didn't mention is for people who have recovered from it and now have natural immunity. This is damn near zero, and these people also don't need to be vaccinated. Indeed, systemic side effects due to vaccination are much more common in this group. All this is now well established by research in highly reputable institutes: but the government hates seeing these FACTS published.
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  42. It seems to me that covid-19 is now being blamed for everything from hair loss to impotency.
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  43. Sorry, but throughout this pandemic I've been unable to get even slightly concerned about a virus that kills well under 1%, who are mainly very old and/or very sick. I also suspected, right from the very start, that natural immunity would be very good and long lasting, and the more reputable studies that have come out, the more this belief has been confirmed. In fact it's now seeming certain that natural immunity is much better than vaccination, and may last a lifetime.
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  44.  @angrygromit93  Do you honestly think anyone cares what someone like you loves?🤣
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  45. And you know what's so incredibly funny about this? Those who have already had covid are already immune, so they don't need the bloody vaccine, and medical ethics clearly indicates that they should never be given it. It's unethical to administer unnecessary treatments to patients! And what's even funnier still is that their natural immunity is probably a lot better than that provided by these vaccines.
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  46.  @ib1378  No, unlike you, I'm not a feeble minded coward!
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  47.  @dianed3960  Yes you are aren't you. Expecting others to have their lives ruined to assuage your irrational fears.
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  48. Add more symptoms, really? It's already looking like everything from baldness to erectile disfunction are being blamed on covid-19.
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  49. And yet everyone is enjoying life without any lockdowns or restrictions. So did we ever need them? This shows that we didn't, and it's a pity Boris listened to the bed-wetters instead of the sensible Swedes.
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  50. A positive test definitely does not mean you are reinfected. All it shows is that a few viral particles, or even just fragments, have been detected in your mucous. This is vastly different from having a full on covid-19 infection. PCR was never intended to be used the way it is now being (ab)used!
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