Comments by "Sammy B" (@sammyb1651) on "How to KEEP A WOMAN: the past is prologue" video.

I think this is a fairly logical conclusion now tbh. And I don't think it should be viewed as "hate speech" either-theres nothing hateful about it, it's just a perfectly sensible pivot once you come to understand the reality of the situation. It's also quite clear why women are keen to suppress this understanding about them. It does make them less "lovable" on the whole, from a mans perspective. They gain most from your ignorance so I can see why they would want to suppress the information. At best all I can now offer is a transactional "love" that mirrors their "love" and that is highly conditional on performance. I feel they should be content with that if thats the same bargain that they're driving.
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Absolutely but only expect this to work as a self preservative. It won't be a relationship preservative. They'll be exiting PDQ if you practice this. So be it. Thats better than being taken for a ride. It's reasonable advice, it just won't "keep" a female.
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Many women suffer from not having an interesting internal world though so their interests are often limited to vacuous consumerism or ways to make her friends envious. As nice as your idea is it's probably a little naive.
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@winkA1 Whichever way you slice it it's still all performative burden on the male. It's looking to constantly assess what future value he's providing. Thats fine but I suspect you dont want to be treated that way yourself or be disposed of if you fail to provide value on a certain day despite having provided huge aggregate value over the course of months and years. Being a woman you'd probably prefer not to have to provide value constantly. You'd probably prefer the privilege of being able to be weak, be emotional, be cared for, be protected.And then STILL be taken on date nights despite having drained your man of energy. Young men shouldn't believe it's all a financial equation I agree. They should however (if they have any sense) be very clear that women are seeking far more value for themselves than they're prepared to provide in exchange. That much is a CRUCIALLY important lesson. If they get that lesson they do well.
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He's correct about the fact everything you've ever done becomes meaningless. It's true. They literally forgive themselves any 'indebtedness' for the good deed you've done for them instantly. Interestingly however they don't apply the same standard the other way. If they've done you a good turn or performed an act of service you will be reminded of it repeatedly. She will expect it to accrue continuing dividends for her well into the future. Ergo they're more than capable of understanding the credo BOTH people should live by. They just won't allow YOU to have the benefit of it. At the end of the day they mate for personal advantage. They're looking to gain more from the association than they give in return and if they're not deriving a net benefit from it they're gone. While it's their nature and can't really be criticised...it is nonetheless difficult to have respect for a person when you realise they're looking to go through life offering less value than they expect to receive in return.
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Thanks for sharing your story and I'm sorry for your loss. The most important information I've seen on any of these channels (in terms of a predictor of relationship success) is that the woman has to actually value male companionship. In it's pure sense (just the enjoyment of it) and not solely for it's associated benefits. It didn't come from this particular channel. I cant remember which one it was now. For all Orion's posts throw up some interesting little insights, I don't think any have any real significance compared to that one simple, foundational point. I was struck by what you said as you appeared to reference it yourself. Sadly it's a very rare trait! Thats a shame for men and women alike.
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@SKBottom Not only that, it's literally antithetical to where so much value comes from. Namely trust. Consider how many huge advances could not have been achieved without co-operation and trust. The notion that the past is irrelevant (rather than immensely valuable-where the benefit of experience comes from-and a predictor of future behaviour) is absurd.
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If that is "winning" it sounds very depressing. Lol. Not meant as a burn btw. Just fact.
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Plus you have to bear in mind the obvious: if you just listened to your stomach all the time instead of exercising self-discipline you'd soon become a fat bast@rd.
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It's just the law of diminishing returns. Re-packaged. All of this stuff is already out there and has been since forever.
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@oneoone That's just the exact equivalent of what the male brings to the female by virtue of biological existence and therefore doesn't count. Think harder. What value that is uniquely female, that the male actually prizes, that the male cannot get from any other source. I'm talking value found in the discharging of performative burdens which equal the numerous performative burdens she's going to be placing on the male.
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@mark9294 Additionally, its nothing more than the exact equivalent of what the male offers the female by virtue of mere biological existence. What he fails to do is mention anything amounting to value created by the discharging of performative burdens. Ie stuff the male actually prizes, that only the female can uniquely perform and that somehow begins to even out the numerous performative burdens she's going to place on him as the male.
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Indeed. You have to bear in mind the obvious: if you just listened to your stomach all the time instead of exercising self-discipline you'd soon become a fat bast@rd.
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@gracerules2008 But not just listen to your stomach either or you'll quickly become a fat b@astard. Exercise self discipline and say "no" to your stomachs constant cravings.
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