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Comments by "roidroid" (@roidroid) on "Эрик Ли: Сказка о двух политических системах" video.
Is this some lame way of distancing yourself from your statements? "Everything i say which turns out wrong, was obviously just meant ironically"
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Luckily the urge to avoid authoritarian dictatorships seems to be rather instinctual and doesn't require much attention or forethought, it does require things like freedom of the press and free speech though. Most importantly it requires the ability to vote - ie: Democracy. (Since if someone does clamp down on freedom of the press or free speech - the populace will simply vote them out.)
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Neat. So what lessons did you learn from the past? We should not tollerate people saying "lets be like America", but.... hey maybe we should stop murdering them. *slow clap* Well i guess it's progress.
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I guess 1933 educated germany still wasnt educated enough. Thankfully they themselves have been the teachers for the rest of us to better avoid their failures. Dunno if it really helped, tbh im often not sure what keeps some populaces from repeating the same mistakes en-mass, weird. But hey whatever lets hope for the best, cheers
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A majority of votes is NOT REQUIRED to cause change. To form government in a multi-party system the participants comprimise their policies with one another to work together to form a coherent government. A number of votes for a party, member or policy does not have to be a majority, it just has to be significant enough to shift the "balance of power". Because the system is complex, even small influences can have knockon effects which ultimately decide the outcome. The small issues do matter.
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>"both parties". No dude, unchallengable duopoly is not a nessesary aspect of democracy. My nation has a whole lot of parties and "preferential voting" which means my vote is not wasted. This ain't America. I am an informed voter, you however sound like an uninformed non-voter. So many verifiable misconceptions.
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But um.... i'm not american. So whoops? hehe, idiot.
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I think youll find that voting takes more attention than not voting - which is what youll have.
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It's not an either/or thing though matey. China can move up without forcing anyone else to "move down"
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In what sense is it "judged by the people", when those judgements are censored? But on your former point, yes, evidence based policy is great in government.
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heh, don't worry you soon learn howto ignore this self-referential self-congratulatory PR crap.
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Only if you dont understand perspective and think of the world in absolute terms of black\white. Trees are cool but once one fell on someone therefore trees are terrible? Durrr
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...cont. Point being - without transparancy - you cant check that policy really is evidence based, or if the numbers have been fudged with because of corruption. This is one of the best inherent advantages of democracy, it demands tranparency and accountability for goverance to be legitimate
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Well... Suicide is your right. But it is not your right to kill OTHERS for voicing the opinion.
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probably. self-awareness is a mitigating factor.
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Haha, did your government tell you it was more transparent? Ok well i guess that settles it! LOL. Top-down Censorship of viewpoints that contradict the official statement is a pretty handy ability to have. By silencing all contradictory viewpoints, you can make it appear that the government never lies. It is essentially the same claiming popular mandate by assasinating all of your political enemies. NOPE. NOPE NOPE NOPENOPENOPENOPENOPE
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Ah, "facecious", i see. Yes, the military nessesity of maintaining a local inteligence department is certainly troublesome for constitutional democracies. I'm not entirely sure how it's legally defensible tbh, but somehow here we all are. Is it a problem? Debatable. The ones making these desisons (be they long-term policies, or instant judgement calls) to deny Snowden asylum were i expect themselves elected by their dumbass electorates. These are our problems, we're (statistically) terrible.
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Singapore has one of the highest incarceration rates in the world. Not a good example. The definition of "safe" to most people includes safety from being locked up for bullshit reasons by a crazy authoritarian goverment.
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- Iranian and Cuban news sites are illegal in the USA? What? - Freedom of speech laws are often disclaimered by libel laws, and occasional media black-outs to protect a court-case in progress (particularly when juries are involved). This is a problem? - China's superficially quite nice, is that what you mean by "see for what it is?". Or do you suggest i actually do some digging to find out what it REALLY is, oops i was just murdered.
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woa what. How about you fuck off you unappologeticly racist biggot. And we all move on with our lives. As if we didn't see it comming, lol@u
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your anti-intellectualism is duly noted.
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...Says the man posting on youtube. mmm the hypocracy is delicious.
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But who are you or I to dictate that a party's policies are good or bad? The safest (least corrupt) way is to poll the entire nation's populace to decide such things. Oh i agree, the Republicans are idiots, but for me to be in a position where i'll deny them what they want, it would make me a dictator. I don't think anyone should be so self-righteous that they think they have the right to have such control over others, it's narcisistic. One should always be willing to accept they're wrong.
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You're better than everyone else eh.
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only psudo-intellectuals call other people psuedo-intellectuals. Ironically... it's like hipsters.
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IIRC China's prison system has in the past been considered to be a de-facto death sentence for political dissidents. Was this not part of the issue with China's prisoner inmate organ-harvesting affair? It was like a business who's profits came from sale of the organs of de-facto murdered (actually just died in prison - WHOOPS THESE THINGS HAPPEN... yeah sure) political dissidents.
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From what i can gather, the UK 2011 Ryan Giggs gag order you're talking about has set off a chain of events which has already identified the laws as a problem and is in the process of fixing it as we speak. So you see, the problem was identified as a lack of transparency, and is being fixed by the democracy surrounding it. Just another day in democracy. Democracy & Transparency BFFS <3. As comparison with China where you may be arrested for even discussing the matter on the street. whatup
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Well yeah, it exists. Democracy isn't a lack of corruption, no way. But compared to other forms of governance it's generally defined as "the best we've got". Corruption that is always scared of being outed, vs corruption that is in-your-face coz it doesn't fear you and you can do nothing about it. If you think these 2 things are the same, i dunno what to tell you. You think that democracies are more corrupt, than China?!
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Srsly? He seemed like a kid doing a highschool presentation - complete with parroting his cultural indoctrination. I thought it was kinda sad how bad and predictable it was :(
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The question always in my mind was "according to who?". I find it troubling to cite figures from a regime that relies on censorship so much. In what way would any such figures be legitimate? Imagine if the world censored talk about slavery for the past few hundred years - and then someone releases statistics showing how happy slaves are and how great slavery is. Why would anyone beleive such stats, if its so great then why are we being censored from saying otherwise. Obviously its NOT great
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America doesnt lock up more ppl that "anywhere in the world", it locks up more than any other FIRST WORLD WESTERN nation. Big difference. China locks up more ppl than usa.
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Because your society isn't bad enough to prompt you to fix it by becoming involved and actually educating yourself on the available candidates. (ie: you think there's only 2 available candidates. lol no) If you move to China, you may be rudely surprised by problems you never had to face where you live currently - such as in-your-face corruption, censorship, lack of free speech, lack of free press. If you're ok with that, then ok fair enough. But for some of us these things are vry important
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Oh, I agree. Democracy itself harbours corruption, just less of it than other commonly observed alternatives (monarchy, dictatorship, corporatism, fascism, China's non-socialism, etc). I say democracy is "the best we've got" based on the common alternatives. Unfortuanately i can't think of many modern large scale anarchistic experiments. I think we need a lot more technological progress (free food) b4 a nice anarchistic form of socialism can really be successful, but eventualy we'll get there.
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no u. (& behind my back too... tisk tisk) I'm an informed voter and campaign financing regulation is something i regularly vote to reform. The policies of differing nations are at differing stages on this matter, my countrys' comparitively not so bad but i still think it could use some work, so i vote thusly for candidates who share my concerns on such matters. It's not rocket science.
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Snowden fled to competing superpowers - who arnt under usa's thumb. Just as people flee from china to usa and russia, they arnt under chinas thumb. This seems obvious :?
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See, someone who supports a dictatorship only at the beginning but then (predictably) changes their mind... i wouldn't call her an intellectual worth her salt, i'd just call her an idiot. I mean what kindof dumbass does one have to be, to know what we know of history, and still not see THAT comming? But hey it's a subjective term, so sure, you can call her "an intellectual" if you want to assign her some authority. Low standards eh.
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Yes you can have transparency anywhere, voluntarily, if you're lucky. But in democracy it is a necessity, transparency cannot be extinguished without extinguishing the very processes which keep the democracy running. Look at my government? What?
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Whoops, my mistake. But just outof curiosity, does the UN check how many prisoners China has? I wouldn't trust the official figures. Especially considering China's prisoner organ harvesting scandal.
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no, some political argument is undeniable personal opinion. Don't say that all political speech is propaganda, that delutes the meaning of the word until it's meaningless.
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Deciding what policies are good and bad is often not so simple, and such questions have been debated for millenia. You may think otherwise because you're afflicted with the "Dunning-Kruger effect". When a democratic government realises that it's policies will lose it the next election, it generally does change it's policies, and indeed often there is an early call for an election to force the issue quickly.
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"if i do say so myself"
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"Disease" is a terrible and dangerous metaphor to apply to any human group. The Nazis labelled Jews as a disease. They were wrong to do so. Just as it is wrong to label Nazism as a disease. Do not yourself become the very monster you were fighting against.
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He didnt address the most important illegitamacy of chinese goverment: CENSORSHIP. To be quite honest - who cares what some naive ignorant fool thinks about things they are not allowed to know about? They live under threat of DEATH if they dig too much. China might be great, but without transparency we'll never know. The fact that such transparency is resisted with such force, tells everyone that actually china is hiding a lot and is probably terrible
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You vote for those who vote for the bills. Representative democracy. If you don't like the bills these idiots vote for, the situation is fixed by you voting them out. So... do that. (ps: your nation's populace is probably too dumb to do this, thems the breaks unfortuantely, most ppl are idiots and thus we get the government we deserve. Still - turns out better than a Dictatorship)
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