Comments by "SK ONTHEROAD" (@skontheroad2666) on "CNN"
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@Pinkheartbwell I don't mean to harp on this, however, apart from the fact that the years don't add up, you do realize that "Nazi Soldiers" are not allowed to roam the world free, right? It has been, in fact, a race against time, to bring to justice the last of them who had not been caught and put in jail. Had you come across one, I am assuming you would do the right thing a report a war criminal as they would have still been actively sought by the authorities internationally. I get the point that you are trying to make, however, again, when you are raised the home of Holocaust survivors, the trauma that one experiences is very deep rooted. And I am not talking about one's energy. There is nothing one can do to understand what that experience is like, or what the survivor goes through. No matter how many times you hear the horrific stories from the victim's mouths. And becoming a vegetarian doesn't make it all better. Neither will forgiveness. I don't know what you are trying to illustrate by saying "my father was there", but this story was about a doctor who happened to be Jewish. Not a doctor who survived the camps. And the patient was an idiot with a swastika, not an actual, vile SS Officer. It is honestly upsetting to read people's posts recounting something as if they are retelling the plot of a movie, rather than an actual account (or even just a place and time). If you want to be compassionate, please just take it down.
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@Pinkheartbwell Yes, that account is from a well known book, written by a survivor. No one "was in the Holocaust." One either "survived the Holocaust", or one did not. The concept of forgiveness in Judaism is very different than in Christianity. The Torah is very clear on when one is to forgive, and equally as clear as when one need NOT forgive or even cannot forgive. Especially if the person has not asked for forgiveness or tried to earn a person's forgiveness. Within Judaism, the construct of forgiveness, most especially towards the Nazis, is not even a debate. Even on Yom Kippur God does not ask it of us as without their attempt in even receiving it, we do not have the ability to grant it. The wrong they have done unto the Jewish people, without any remorse, is too great. By Jewish law and by International law, which is why we still have Nazi hunters who attempt to seek out those last living animals that may roam the earth, hiding, likely in plain sight. So they may be brought to justice and to their death. Every last one.
There are plenty of live testimonials from the Wiesenthal center that you can view on YouTube. I suggest viewing some to understand the difference between hearing a story from an actual survivor rather than an account reenacted in a movie.
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@Pinkheartbwell And again, I hope you understand that your statements (reread them from the beginning) have been a deep, painful betrayal to those who not only perished in the Holocaust, but to those who survived the horrors of the Holocaust. As well as their trials and tribulations in the DP camps and thereafter. Including the impact it had on their children and grandchildren. It will take many generations for us to not be reliving daily the reminders of the atrocities that occurred, and the affect it had, and still has, on our lives. I don't know what year your father came to the US, or where he came from, but even if he didn't tell you stories about it, just his behavior throughout, how he carried on with life, was likely marred by what he had experienced and seen. And someone like that, who carries that burden, passes it on. Just as I want you to understand that your mindless, thoughtless, insincere commentary--completely anonymous on YT of course--is deeply hurtful and painful. And yet you keep going. I am glad that you are ok with forgiving nazis, letting SS officers roam free, although illegal, and saving little animals because you are a vegetarian. But I want you to understand that what you did was not only wrong, it was vindictive and mean. People may comments on YT all the time and others sling insults, call people names and liars, all from the safety of their screen name. I did none of that--I simply asked you to take it down. And you won't, and yet still keep posting. I don't know what your point even is anymore. It certainly can't be forgiveness as I have told you how offended, horrified and saddened I am by your actions and, perhaps bc I am a stranger online, you don't care. And while I did start out by saying I had a hard time believing your story, I did not follow that line of logic, not because I am now convinced--quite the opposite--I was truly just being courteous. I could go through each comment and sentence that only highlights the insincerity of your story, but I don't need to. You know what they are. And yet you still seem to have a point you wish to make. I implore you to find a different way. Doing it at the expense of 6 million dead is truly reprehensible. And just the fact that you don't understand how awful it is, or what your first post represented--or understand and feel the deep shame that you should be experiencing right now, is proof enough of your not even that elaborate, yet nonetheless pathetic, ruse. Just know that again, whatever point you tried to make, all you did was traumatize someone further. And yet, you seem very ok with it. Does that help prove your point? I doubt it.
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@Pinkheartbwell Since you brought up Eva Kor--do you even know the whole story? You cut and pasted part of an article on commonlit but in addition to what she said, "Forgiveness does not mean that the perpetrators are absolved of their crimes," what Eva Kor also said, which is just as important as her own personal experiences were, as her ability to forgive was, was that "Each person can forgive only in his or her own name. One cannot forgive in the name of all Holocaust survivors." As I said before, the concept of forgiveness in Judaism is very different than that of Christianity. Many survivors did not, and do not, feel the same way as she did. "It is not our place, or our duty, to forgive. We do not owe anybody forgiveness. The pre-requisite for forgiveness is atonement. Justice we should seek--and forever seek--but forgiveness? It is not our place to forgive." Your point on how you came to forgive could have been made by simply telling Eva Kor's story--a true story. But the fact that you have chosen to leave your comments up, which are not only offensive to those who actually DID survive the Holocaust, or are children and grandchildren of those who are survivors, you do a disservice to Eva Kor and her memory, which is the exact thing you are trying to make a statement about. Make your point another way. Honor Eva Kor and her memory, along with the memory of her sister and family. Or simply make the point by drawing a parallel from the original news clip to Eva Kor's testimonials in documentaries and YT video that you found inspiring. Or use something else. Anything else but the tale you told about treating a Nazi War criminal and then letting him roam free!! The power to forgive that man was not yours! There are laws! People get put in jail for doing what you said happened! And the fact that you were not aware of that, or the impact of your other statements, may exonerate you and your false statements from those you have offended, but they do not make them any less painful to those whose identity you are essentially stealing. They also don't necessarily exonerate you from the law! Have you done anything to rectify the situation? Called the FBI? You claim to be a nice, peaceful person who wants to do good things. Take your statements DOWN! And then, in return, I will gladly delete mine. You are desecrating the memory of those who perished in the Holocaust as well as the survivors, whether dead or alive. You may not have the ability to exonerate anyone on behalf of the survivors or those killed, but apparently you can help them seek justice. In the name of everyone murdered.
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@paulinbrooklyn And since you want to be her knight in shining amour... you know her statements are factual how? I certainly did not come in guns blazing, but since you brought it up, aside from the numbers not adding up (yes, even before I has exact numbers, it was clear they were off), there is zero mention of where her father was born, where he was during the war, or when and how he came to the US. And all that aside, Germans who "just served their country during the war" also had to go either left or right. The US or Russia. To be reeducated before reentering society. There was no such thing as a German just innocently serving his country, as 11 million people were massacred and per the Potsdamer Konferenz (amongst others) they had to pay their dues. They were not just set free when the war was over. Naomi may be a liar, whatever you know of her, that much is clear. But you seem to be equally naive. And it is more important to you to try to tell me to leave a stranger alone, than learn the truth about history and actually educate yourself on something important.
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