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Comments by "Crazy Eyes" (@CrizzyEyes) on "Linux is Too Hard - A Solution!" video.
@愛 It isn't "gatekeeping," simply a practical piece of advice. Linux graphical interfaces are shit. It's pretty cut-and-dried. If you can't drive a computer without a GUI, you will hate your life if you install Linux and use your computer for anything more involved than browsing the web and checking e-mail -- things virtually everyone does on their phones now anyway. That's not to say Windows doesn't have shit GUIs, but you aren't going to find better ones from an OS which is historically maintained by people who don't like using GUIs to begin with.
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@christiansilvermoon This is disingenuous. I love Linux, but from my experience the decisions that developers make for file locations is completely arbitrary bullshit. For example, not all (I'd venture to say most, especially in the case of user software) binaries are stored in /bin. Many are stored in /usr/bin. Or /usr/local/bin. Or /home/username/local/share... you get the picture. Of course, this is a problem that is easily solved with the "which" command, which tells you where a file is being executed by a given command in the terminal. But all I see are people praising the file structure of modern Linux, which is a mess created by many independent thinkers lacking any form of standards. Which is ironic given how old this structure is. Even worse advocates simply reply with "stop using bad software," which is only marginally less obnoxious than posting "works on my machine." You could easily say "stop writing bad software" as well. Windows suffers because Microsoft refuses to touch the poop that is the ancient foundation of much of its necessary software and inner workings, and refuse to support alternative desktop environments while constantly changing their own. Linux suffers because there are too many cooks in the kitchen with way too big egos.
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@eMorphized From my experience, Nouveau is shit in a tupperware container. Of course, I play lots of games. I don't know exactly for what applications Nouveau is suitable, but games ain't it. You need the latest proprietary drivers for that. However, the last time I tried to use Nouveau, I couldn't even use my desktop -- it was a garbled mess. That was years ago though. Personally I don't quite understand the need for some people to use OSS drivers for Nvidia. You bought a GPU designed by Nvidia, made by one of their licensed manufacturers, and yet you feel the need to use a driver made by some random guy who isn't affiliated with Nvidia? Makes no sense. It would be nice if those drivers were good, but they just aren't and it is thoroughly unpragmatic to use them.
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@christiansilvermoon Thanks for the insight. I've used Linux for a while for one of my home computers but the way modern devs seem to use (or abuse) the filesystem hierarchy can be confusing. I will say that, outside of binaries installed from packages, everything makes sense for the most part. But some application developers like to ignore any and all standards. I do think the part that makes it difficult for a new user is determining what software is "compiled locally," or something that resides in a /home/user directory, or something that resides in the root binaries directory. But there are commands that can solve these problems. And yes, YouTube's comment system is ridiculous. I'm not sure why they even allow this many replies to a thread if they're going to make it impossible to figure out what someone is replying to.
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@Secondarian I... don't understand how that relates to my point at all. What I was getting at is that principally opposing proprietary drivers is a bit of an absurd notion when said drivers are made by the people who designed and manufactured the hardware you're using. If you wanted to protect your computer because you believe that proprietary drivers are unsafe, then you shouldn't buy an Nvidia card to begin with. Hardware can damage your computer too, and if you don't understand exactly how an Nvidia GPU works from top-to-bottom, then you're exposing yourself to the same level of risk. What you're doing instead is amateurly reverse engineering a piece of hardware you didn't design which is arguably more dangerous.
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@skedyt Because frankly, graphical setups are trash on Linux, even though they have come a long way. Each of the DEs has its ups and downs, each of the file browsers has its own little annoying drawbacks. The only GUI element I tend to use on Linux is the app launcher on MATE, which is really just a fancy layer over the command line anyway that has autocomplete. There will be times when you have to go to command line to do what you need to do, or that doing it via a copy-paste command line is simply much faster than doing it via GUI, and putting off learning basic Bash syntax isn't going to help you. Unlike Windows you cannot simply drive the whole OS through (badly designed) GUI. By relying on GUI in Linux, you are basically importing many of the same problems you would have had on Windows. Sadly most people including myself in the beginning simply find the allure of something familiar too great and end up using a dozen different DEs and such before they arrive at the same conclusion. It doesn't help that most people tell you to read man pages like it's a novel to learn about Bash and available application CLIs, which is really dry and quite boring. Great reference, not really a great introduction.
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@dansw0rkshop Quite the contrary, I'm a programmer by trade so command lines and action-first interfaces aren't strange to me at all. There are also a few things I like about Linux GUIs, but they're specific to pieces of the GUI because everything is so modular; for example, which file manager is preferred, etc. However, I'm the first to douse water on overzealous Linux fans who are trying to get their grandma to install Linux, because it's just not a very good idea. It doesn't matter how much you like it, you have to be able to take a step back and realize that there is a reason the market share of Linux PCs is somewhere around 1-2%. It's a free OS, more people would certainly use it if it were easy to use and had a good GUI.
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