Comments by "Two-Row Euro" (@fun_ghoul) on "US keeps voting to defend Nazis at United Nations" video.
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@GalacticNovaOverworld "Also, remember that as late as 1955, NINETY PERCENT of the world's Jews opposed Zionism..."
I'm having a hard time finding a citation of this; Googoo has been deliberately tanking search results for at least 5 years now, and I presume others are similar. Nevertheless, it is widely documented that Jews who'd suffered from the Holocaust were in no rush to leave one antagonistic situation for another. Also, much of world Jewry at the time were Sephardic, living in places like Thessaloniki, Baghdad and Algiers; this wouldn't last long, of course.
"...opposed Zionism on both religious grounds (the Old Testament forbids Jews from having self-government until the coming of the Messiah)..."
"Seek out the welfare of the city to which I have exiled you and pray for it to the Almighty, for through its peace will you have peace." -Jeremiah 29:7
"...as well as moral ones (many Jews were communists...)"
By "many", I certainly didn't mean to imply the majority. OTOH, Jews participated in and often had leading positions in communist parties and movements, both in the SU/Warsaw Pact and in "the West". I'd like to think this wouldn't be disputed; even the Zionists pretended to be socialists with their kibbutzes, so as to lure American Jews tired of discrimination.
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@carllito5872 When did I say you should move? Dude, literally nobody is seriously proposing that. As for you being more "Canadian" than newcomers, I guess you are in the sense that you're still talking this racist stuff. Like, why do "newcomers" not stay where they are from? For the same reason the Wet'suwet'en are trying to defend their land: Euro-colonial plunder!
Seriously, it wasn't so long ago that I thought a lot like you do, trying to reconcile (no pun intended) the notion of Canada with a fairer deal for "all people". Thing is, not ALL people have any claim to this land! If we truly want to be good to the people on whose lands we exist, we have to actually listen to what they say, and not just in the sense of letting them talk a bit and then taking our own decisions. Thus, the importance of the phrase "free, prior and informed consent"!
For us "white" people, decolonization must first happen in our minds, which comes back to what I was saying about the importance of the words we use to describe ourselves and others. As long as you're still calling yourself "Canadian", you're still identifying as part of the band of thieves. To be clear, there may be contexts where you will say "Canadian" for better understanding (e.g. when talking online to people overaeas), though even there, I'll try to say "so-called Canada" to highlight the artificial nature of the construct in much the same way I put "white" in quotation marks to highlight the artificial nature of that construct!
As to Canadian-ness and ancestry, mine is as muddled as anyone's. My paternal grandfather was out of the picture when my dad was a kid, probably because my grandmother was bat shit crazy. They were both Yanks by birth, interestingly, though my grandmother's family had roots in the Maritimes and Newfoundland since a Loyalist ancestor and his son were expelled from Long Island, NY after the "Revolutionary" War, to be given 40 acres of stolen Miq'mak land in Nova Scotia. I never set eyes on the grandfather even in a photograph, and only ever saw this grandmother 3 times in my life.
On my mum's side, my grampa was born in Montreal in the early 1920s to two "Italian" parents (Italy is another fake country; my great-grandmother was from Campania, and my great-grandfather was from Umbria), and my grandmother was born out of wedlock to a lady of Irish ancestry and a fellow of Scottish descent, and subsequently given up for adoption to a Yorkshire lady (who possibly arrived in a similar to your grampa). These were my "real" grandparents, in the sense that they were the only ones I knew.
All this to say that, with some deprogramming, I've managed to stop romanticizing these origins and their "Canadian-ness". In reality, this story has played out millions of times in dozens of places around the globe. And, as with "newcomers" now, none of these people left their lives, friends and families back home because they wanted to, but out of sheer necessity. What is presented as "seeking opportunities" was simply seeking the opportunity to not die!
I'm rambling now, but if I could leave you with a parting bit of advice, go on John Kane's channel (@LetsTalkNativeTV) and watch some videos. However you feel afterward, you will surely agree that you learned some stuff!
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@carllito5872 With respect, you're still not getting it. It's not "our country", or even a country at all. It's the occupation of dozens of nations by a Pan-European force of bandits. "Canadian" is as real an epithet as "Narnian"...or "Israeli"!
I'm sincerely not trying to give you a hard time, but things like what we call ourselves have a lot to do with how we think. If we aren't sincere in self-criticism, we jist end up reproducing the patterns of oppression we've participated in either as victims, perpetrators or, most likely among us Eurosquatters, both.
In this same vein, for example, I've started deleting all the songs from my music player with the N-word, as well as those with misogynistic and homophobic references. With particular regard to the first one, it's not because the art is bad or should be obliterated outright, but because a "Black"/New Afrikan person hearing or saying that word is necessarily different than me hearing or saying it!
Our brains are like sponges: Whatever we're immersed it, we can't help but soak up and then drip all over the place! This is why, IMO, we have to be vigilant about not reproducing the harms of our ancestors.
Hope that makes sense, and sorry if I'm coming off as dickish. This stuff had to be said, tho. Cheers.
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