Youtube comments of graham johnson (@TheWchurchill4pm).

  1. True story: Beethoven - Germany’s greatest musical genius - once met Goethe - Germany’s greatest literary genius. They went for a walk in a park, where they were about to cross paths with members of the aristocratic class. Goethe, the old man raised in the ways of tradition, stepped aside to let them pass. Beethoven, the young man and product of the Enlightenment, continued walking so the aristocrats had to stop for him.
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  2. “Sometimes silence is the worst crime” The Catholic Church in a nutshell
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  3. I hear so many people say Amanda has “made it all about herself.” But Amanda never wanted to be at the center of anything. The police, prosecutors and media made it about Amanda. Instead of seeking justice for Meredith, or telling the world what a wonderful person she was, they created a narrative about Amanda. If Amanda is talking about herself and her experience, it’s because that’s the only perspective she is able to give.
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  4. Anyone seen the movie “Fury?” When the talk about Brad Pitt, a battle-hardened veteran, weeping over the slaughter of horses, I wonder if it was a reference to Dostoevsky or to Nietzsche?
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  5. For those waiting to see this, I’d recommend “Primal Fear” with Richard Gere and Laura Linney
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  6. What was the prosecutor’s rationale? Did they think that because the rape had already occurred that meant she was no longer in immediate danger? If so, then WTF?!
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  7. He was the one who taught me not to worry about how the truth might offend people
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  8. One of the things we should have kids talk about in class (while we’re at it, we should do more to encourage them to actually TALK about issues) is what American Exceptionalism means. What does it mean for a country to be exceptional? What does a country need to accomplish to be great? How do countries successfully accomplish these things? Those are questions students need to know are important.
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  9. I wonder how much real-life Oedipal Complexes are self-fulfilling prophecies. Maybe Freud didn’t discover an inherent human tendency, so much as create a cultural myth that became an indelible part of collective human consciousness.
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  10. A few days after the shooting, I asked a friend of my dad’s who’s a retired officer what he thought of the cops’ actions. He said, “If I’m at a school, with a gun, and I hear shooting - back up or not - I’m going in.”
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  11. She should be a guest speaker at police academies, talking about the dangers of taking short cuts during investigations.
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  12. People often talk about Malcolm’s life as one of constant self-transformation. The corollary is that his life was one of criticism - both of himself and of the world around him. Ta-Nehisi Coates called him the 20th century’s greatest “skeptic of democracy.”
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  13. @KingsBlade7 you’re cousin was an American hero, God Bless him ❤️🇺🇸
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  14. I loved the book by Douglas Preston, on which this was based.
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  15. The book - third one - took a different turn than this season seems to be taking. I’m glad. The best book-to-screen adaptions give the reader/viewer something new to think about. That’s why “Sleepy Hollow” is my favorite Tim Button movie.
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  16. I love how Tucker is presenting this. Sarcasm, not brevity, is the soul of wit!
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  17. She throws an egg at a guy and tells the security guard “don’t touch me!” She actually thinks she has a right to throw things at people. No, that’s not right: she thinks she has a right to throw things at specific people. Her actions prove that she does not regard Larry Elder as a person with rights. He is a thing, in her mind. Remember that the Nazis’ rise to power began with the dehumanization of others.
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  18. I have read Amanda’s account of her questioning, and I have read the “slander” narrative put forward by contributors to the site, True Justice For Meredith Kercher. Amanda’s account makes more sense. If you put yourself in her shoes, her claim of being gaslit through harsh questioning is very believable.
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  19. 0:03 Is it just me, or did Sanders look like Palpatine there
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  20. @rikidoni24 when you tell a stressed out person that they have amnesia and that they should try very hard to remember, you may as well be encouraging them to imagine a scenario
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  21. @Zero - she was kissing her boyfriend because she was scared and wanted to do something normal to calm down. If you see her face in the video, you can tell it wasn't a passionate moment. And she never did a cartwheel. She did the splits after a policemen asked her to show him a yoga move.
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  22. @brandihillcom I can tell you must have been a good cop, because the only difference between a good cop and a bad cop - a good cop knows their job isn’t supposed to be easy. Thank you for your service to your community 🇺🇸👮
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  23. I think a big problem is that we don’t tend to consider people’s actions from their own point of view. If the police/media had looked at Knox’s behavior in the context of what was going on, they may have seen that there was more than one possible explanation for the things she was doing.
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  24. So many could scenes in this film: Hypatia’s linking of Euclid’s First Common Notion to human equality (there’s a similar scene in Spielberg’s “Lincoln”) Orestes’ defending the Christians during the siege, for Hypatia’s sake The story of Aristarchus inspiring Hypatia to study the heliocentric model
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  25. That’s what happens when they assign their own books in class
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  26. @xman559 I just don’t understand how people whose job it is to uncover the truth can hold on so firmly to a discredited hypothesis. Is it just ego, or are they afraid admitting they were wrong would hurt their careers?
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  27. I envy Californians their chance to retake power of their government.
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  28. This is the best way of teaching: ask questions and assign work that makes the student think long and hard about something.
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  29. Her father John wrote a book.
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  30. Sadly, that is the case in the majority of wrongful conviction cases
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  31. The police told her she had amnesia and blocked out the event. Suspects are inclined to believe this if they are exhausted and confused. Also, the police were the ones who brought up the man’s name based on a text Amanda had sent him. Her statements regarding his involvement were the result of leading questions by investigators. The very next day she wrote an actual letter attempting to retract the statement. As soon as she was clear headed, she acted responsibly.
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  32. He should receive compensation from the Perugia police department. They coerced Amanda, mentally and physically traumatized her, until she told them Patrick did it. She didn’t volunteer Patrick’s name. They asked her
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  33. “You should respect your elders.” If you’re an elder, you should be setting a moral example.
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  34. Augustus is one of those leaders who makes one question their moral opposition to autocracy. Others are Napoleon Bonaparte, Franklin Delano Roosevelt (yes, FDR), Peter the Great.
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  35. We’ve lost so much since then. So much of the Warren Court’s decisions have been rendered ineffective.
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  36. Like many college age men and women.
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  37. I found a website dedicated to shredding Amanda’s book. It repeatedly states that “the media doesn’t judge a case.” That’s the ideal: that jurors obey the rule not to listen to news regarding the case they hear. But ideals and reality aren’t the same. The way the media reports on a case can always influence how jurors or a court decide. That’s why bad journalism is as much a threat to a legal system as incompetent lawyers.
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  38. @FritzFeuer the reason they coerced her into an accusation was due to a text she sent to Patrick. She thought she was using Italian phrase for “see you later,” but it was actually the phrase for agreeing to meet someplace specific. This gave them the idea that she and Patrick met and went to the apartment. They asked her suggestive questions to that effect
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  39. Democrats like Newsom don’t even care about Democrat voters. They only care about the Democrat donors who pay them.
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  40. “I was sexually active. I was not sexually deviant.” I love the defiance in her voice. Nobody - not the prosecutors, not the press - has the right to make her sex life an issue.
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  41. 1:40 Being Todd’s prisoner really messed with Jesse’s head, looks like.
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  42. @hazwanee25 finally! I meet someone interesting in these comment sections. How long have you worked in your field, and what do you do?
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  43. She didn’t know yet that Meredith had been killed
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  44. “It’s called the First Amendment.” He does have the right to speak - but those women have a right to speak against what he’s saying. The First Amendment goes both ways.
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  45. @Eastbluedrew she has given a detailed description on numerous occasions of how she was coerced: She had not slept in several days and had already been interviewed multiple times. The police yelled at her and told her she was lying. One of the officers struck her over the head twice. Another officer told her she may have amnesia, which gave her a logical explanation for why the police were treating her this way. They asked leading questions regarding Patrick Lumumba, which caused her brain to create false memories of being with him at the apartment that night. (Also, she wrote two separate statements recanting the accusation within 24 hours; the first statement was written less than an hour afterwards)
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  46. Watch the Scarlet Letter Reports where she interviews women who have been harassed by the media. You can see in her interactions with these women that she has great empathy and compassion
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  47. It was all ego. He wanted to be a hero, the knight that slayed s dragon. So he created a monster that he could defeat.
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  48.  @alabama.worley  how else is she supposed to make a living? She worked at a bookstore, briefly, but was constantly harassed by reporters and stalkers. If she tries to get a normal job at Wal-Mart, how long before they have to fire her because security has to spend every five minutes escorting some creep out of the store for bothering her?
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  49. It shouldn’t be surprising that Italians found her behavior strange. Just consider how we as Americans have assumptions about people from foreign countries. While there was much human error involved in what happened to her, I think we also have to consider the cultural factors. Specifically, the universal human tendency not to challenge our individual assumptions.
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  50. @bexlyspeed Here’s what I don’t understand: If she was there, she’d have known Rudy’s DNA would be found. If she’d wanted to save herself, she’d have told the same story - except with Rudy taking the place of Patrick. Why accuse Patrick, willingly, if she knew his DNA wouldn’t match the DNA found in Meredith? If she really is this evil genius the prosecution made her out to be, she’d have thought of that.
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  51. We should remember what she wanted her life to be: she aspires to become a journalist reporting on political affairs. I think Meredith Kercher would have gone on to do a great deal of good in the world.
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  52. The Great Conversation. I went to a liberal arts college where the Western Canon - the long line of writers who built upon their predecessors’ works - was the backbone of the curriculum.
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  53. @JeanKanengoni - Meredith is THE victim. But Amanda is A victim. So are Raffaele and Patrick Lumumba, and all of their families.
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  54. @conn saunders - I have an idea for the film’s opening scene: Amanda enters the apartment on the night of Nov 1. She explains to Meredith that Raffaele’s faucet has a leak and she’s getting a mop. She hears a noise in Philomena’s room and goes to investigate. Rudy Guede appears. Amanda screams and runs as Guede chases her. Meredith runs after Guede. The two girls fight Guede, he goes down, unconscious. Amanda grabs Meredith by the arm, tries to pull her towards the door - but Meredith won’t budge. Amanda: “C’mon, we have to get out of here.” Meredith: “Amanda -“ Amanda: “He might wake up! We have to get out -“ Meredith: “AMANDA! This isn’t how it happened.” Amanda: “Yes it is! I came home, we fought him, I got you out. Now come -“ Meredith: “Amanda -“ Amanda: “Don’t!” Meredith: “Amanda, you need to -“ Amanda: “NO!” (The camera focuses on Amanda’s face, which is filled with panic and terror) “No, God, please! Don’t make me wake up!” Then she does wake up. She’s lying on her bunk in her cell at Capanne Prison. It was a dream of what she wished had been.
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  55. I hate that the lives of this man and his daughter have been reduced to conspiracy theories. That poor family 😢
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  56. For every answer a book provides, it should leave a new question.
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  57. I love that Amanda pointed out Daisy can smile about it. People have a preconception about how survivors should react to their own trauma. That message just traumatizes them further by taking away more of their agency.
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  58.  @connsaunders9600  whenever someone cites the High Court's opinion to support Amanda's guilt, they ignore the fact that the same court made it impossible for her to go back to prison. If those who think Amanda and Raffaele killed Meredith and those who think they didn't, can agree on anything it should be that the High Court's opinion lacks credibility.
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  59.  @connsaunders9600  Amanda's family had to borrow money, and both her parents and step-parents had to mortgage their houses to pay for her defense. They weren't exactly millionaires asking for special treatment.
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  60.  @dinalampa4943  Where's the recording of them talking about blaming Patrick? The police recorded everything else they said - well, everything accept Amanda's "interview," as you call it. You say they expected to be let go after naming Patrick? As if anyone would expect to not be charged as an accessory after not initially giving information to the police.
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  61. The OJ trial was the reflected image of Amanda’s. In her case, it was the prosecution that confused the jury with a conspiracy theory and manipulated evidence. In the OJ case, it was the defense that did those things.
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  62. Biden might get to replace Thomas. But the cons would still have a 5-4 majority.
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  63. They sound like old friends.
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  64. It’s often overlooked how intellectual the lower classes were in the early days of US expansion. Since the settlers had to find ways to have a say in how the government handled territorial expansion, they had to engage in a lot of debate and discussion - a frontier version of the European coffeehouse. The promotion of literacy was also important as it was essential to upward mobility in the western territories.
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  65. @J it’s also very difficult in Italy to hold police accountable for misconduct. If you criticize an officer publicly, you can be charged with slander - which in Italy is a criminal as well as a civil offense.
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  66. @Bran Man24 - I’m sorry, not only for what happened to you, but also for most people choosing not to believe stories like yours exist. May I ask, how are you?
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  67. @FritzFeuer what’s not cool is that the police coerced her into accusing her boss
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  68. How would you prove that a woman is getting an abortion because of the child’s race or disability, as opposed to simply not wanting to have a child?
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  69. @James Coburn they basically said that the only explanation for there being no evidence was that she cleaned it up. I always thought that no evidence meant that evidence was never there.
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  70. I’m hoping they’ll agree to meet with Amanda some day
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  71. We read this story in middle school. It scared the s*** out of me!
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  72. @Jace Elliot - apparently, she was smiling at her parents who were sitting behind the defense table. The papers just printed pictures of her smiling without providing any context
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  73. Maybe citizens should be able to sue the police for failure to protect them. They are, after all, paid with the tax dollars of the people they protect.
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  74. I imagine any Republican wanting the nomination will need to seek his endorsement. And they’ll probably all know it will hurt them in the general election.
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  75. Listen - I’d very much appreciate someone telling just what this woman “isn’t telling.” Do you think her story doesn’t make sense? Fine. Point to the part that doesn’t make sense, then we’ll explore it. I don’t think it’s fair to just say, “she sounds like she’s hiding something” and not put forward any idea regarding what that something may be.
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  76. He’s gotta be in the mob or something
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  77. It seems like Nietzsche was saying that it isn’t enough to do away with outdated, superstitious philosophies. New philosophies would have to be created to fill the moral vacuum.
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  78. @DianaMincher she didn’t know the emergency number for the police in Italy. Many people wouldn’t want to readily accept that something horrible happened in their home; so she called her mom for advice and went to tell Raffaele to ask him what to do. How could she lock Meredith’s room from the outside? Rudys DNA was all over the crime scene. Amanda was cutting tomato’s with the knife which is why her dna was on it. The “blood” on the blade was so minuscule that the police used it up in the initial yet. Initial tests are unreliable. If she’d only known Raffaele for 5 days, how could she have seduced him into helping her commit murder? That was the prosecution’s theory. How could the US government have retaliated against the Italian Supreme Court?
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  79. @conn saunders - if I deprived you of sleep, put you in a small room for two hours while eight people yelled at you, calling you a liar, then hit you over the head for not telling me what I wanted to know, and told you that you had amnesia, all the while asking questions about some guy you’d texted - then you’d probably tell me that guy did something just to make me stop hurting you.
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  80. How do you know?
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  81. And hero
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  82. Why not?
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  83. Her parents kept advising her to do so on the phone, before her arrest.
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  84. @Vivian first of all - she can complain about losing 4 years of her life, then having to spend another 4 fighting to be fully exonerated, not to mention being the target of a worldwide slut-shaming campaign. And second of all, a lot of guilty men and women are given sentences which are totally disproportionate to their offense. Women have the added punishment of losing childbearing years.
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  85. Amanda is right that filmmakers don’t consider the impact their portrayal of real life figures have on those figures’ lives or the lives of their families. Consider the portrayal of Johnny Cash’s first wife in “Walk the Line,” or the portrayal of reporter Kathy Scrugs in “Richard Jewell”
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  86. “There were very fine people on both sides.”
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  87. I liked the way Thatcher was portrayed in the show — meaning I liked the character. It’s hard not to admire someone who takes an interest in their work; and whose goal is to do the job to the highest standard of excellence.
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  88. Comparing Amanda Knox to OJ Simpson is demeaning to Nicole Brown an Ron Goldman.
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  89. How could we describe the Zodiac’s motive. I take it for granted that he was a thrill killer. But to quote Hannibal Lecter (who was paraphrasing Marcus Aurelius): “First principles…what need does he serve by killing?”
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  90. @Fleece would you like to share your experience? I’d be interested to hear your perspective
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  91.  @alabama.worley  Even if that's true, it wouldn't have covered all of her fees. The Italian government owes her a massive amount of compensation.
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  92.  @dinalampa4943  She came with Raffaele because she was scared to be alone - which shows what a vulnerable state she was in that night. The police decided to use the opportunity to take her into an office to be interrogated. They had probably agreed beforehand to use coercive measures because they feared she'd leave the country soon - which she should have. You can use the same methods to extract a false accusation that you can use to extract a false confession. When they found her text to Patrick, they asked suggestive questions which led her to imagine she'd heard him killing Meredith.
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  93.  @connsaunders9600  I'll bet that when the police learned Patrick's last name, Lumumba, and realized he was of African descent, it was THEY who made the racist assumption - not the twenty-year-old student who was terrified and confused.
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  94. What would an innocent person sound like? Have you compared her descriptions to those given by people like the Central Park/Exonerated Five ?
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  95. You mean the nervous smile that looked like she was trying to saying, “well, that’s my story. Make up your own mind”…?
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  96.  @johnmilton5569  it's a legitimate question: why would she kill Meredith?
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  97. @Mike Hunt get some new material 🎤
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  98. My American Academia aesthetic: blue collar career, exploring intellectual pursuits (theater, classical music, esoteric/high culture books) for fun during spare time.
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  99. I’m sorry she still has to hear people saying she’s guilty. I guess that just vindicates her decision to become an advocate for other women. The victimization doesn’t stop, so the only choice is to fight forever.
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  100. @SteveSilver I'm curious could you give a summary of how Japanese societal expectations differ from those of the United States?
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  101. She’s told it many times. But I never get tired of hearing it. For some reason, I like hearing about cases of wrongful convictions. I guess they make me imagine what I’d have done differently, had I been an investigator or a suspect.
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  102. @christinamickey06 thank you for being brave enough to share <3
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  103. She’s become an intellectual
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  104. @corpus vile - her final interrogation lasted only 2 hours; but there were previous interrogations, together totaling over 50 hours. During the last interrogation, she was screamed at (in Italian), called a liar, told repeatedly she knew who the killer was, SLAPPED twice, before being told she had amnesia. The officers asked her leading questions about Patrick Lumumba until she imagined hearing him kill Meredith and believed she was recovering lost memory.
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  105. I think the public needs to be educated on how confessions can be coerced and why wrongful convictions happen
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  106. She describes in her book that: She had barely slept in the last few days. The police yelled at her and told her she was lying. They introduced the idea Patrick was a suspect and accused her of covering for him. A policewoman struck her over the head twice. Another policewoman told her she had amnesia. Basically, they broke her and suggested a story she repeated while in a suggestive state of mind
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  107. “I’m struggling to find any redeeming features in these people at all” - I think Thatcher was speaking for all of us after we’d finished watching all of season 4. I mean let’s face it, they all stopped being likable by then.
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  108. Some of the evidence was t given to her lawyers until the trial was half over. The prosecution gave them the results of the DNA testing, but withheld the raw data used to reach those results. When the defense finally got hold of the raw data, it became clear why: the DNA on the knife didn’t match Meredith Kercher’s - and may not have been DNA at all.
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  109. In the podcast with Whitney, her husband said “She wasn’t gorgeous then, but she’s gorgeous now.”
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  110. BLM is all talk, and the talk is about the federal government solving the black community’s crises. Hampton actually DID things, he BUILT services to help black communities. I truly believe he’d be a conservative if he lived today. By “conservative,” I mean a person who favors active local participation by ordinary citizens in addressing social problems.
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  111. @Mytrip Les Grossman/John Doe/ M Hunt: says something Me: “I give so little fucks, you can actually hear the sound of me not giving a fuck.”
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  112. @FredHall thank you!
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  113. @D @bexlyspeed Here’s what I don’t understand: If she was there, she’d have known Rudy’s DNA would be found. If she’d wanted to save herself, she’d have told the same story - except with Rudy taking the place of Patrick. Why accuse Patrick, willingly, if she knew his DNA wouldn’t match the DNA found in Meredith? If she really is this evil genius the prosecution made her out to be, she’d have thought of that.
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  114. I’m glad she’s out in the world and refusing to hide. She has nothing to be ashamed of.
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  115. Because if her description of the prosecutor’s theory?
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  116. @narrator why do you believe she is?
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  117. How does she “sound” guilty?
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  118. Different art forms colliding and complementing each other…
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  119. @SpankBank there’s as much chance of this happening to you in America
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  120. Who wouldn’t exercise a bit after they’ve been sitting in a police station for hours?
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  121. @John Texan the director of Stillwater got the idea from Amanda’s case, though he tried to change as many details of the story as he could
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  122. What made Amanda angry is that SPOILERS!!!!! the girl in the movie is relieved to have inadvertently caused the murder. Amanda feels this will perpetuate the cultural myth that she played a part in Meredith’s death
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  123. When the American Founders signed the Declaration of Independence, Benjamin Franklin said “We must now hang together, or we will surely hang separately.” If a loyalist had heard it, they’d have exclaimed “Laughing about treason - what a psychopath!”
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  124. @Alek Sup if she did do it, do you think she’d be able to keep up the act so well by frequently talking about it in interviews, and telling jokes/laughing with the interviewers? There are a lot of pathological liars out there. But can anyone really be THAT good?
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  125. I heard that when one of Meredith’s friends heard Amanda and Raffaele had been released, she broke down crying. It was one of the friends who’d testified against them at the trial
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  126. @conn saunders- what about my idea did you find “humorous?” Because it wasn’t intended to be taken as such.
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  127. She has a brilliant mind. Some people would let an experience like this drag them down. She’s managed to use the experience to broaden her understanding.
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  128. Then, under the Burger Court, the country did an about face.
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  129. @Lily - she was kidding her boyfriend outside the house because she was scared and wanted someone to comfort her. You can tell it’s not a making-out kinda kiss. As for the cartwheel, that’s a myth. She was at the police station and mentioned to an officer that she knew yoga. He asked if he could see a yoga move, so she did a splits.
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  130. I work at a school and I oppose the mask mandates. But the way they responded to this young man’s concerns was despicable. That lady behind him who laughed is a joke.
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  131. I agree. While I don’t trust body language “science” (it has after all been used to argue for her guilt) I just don’t think she could keep telling this story if she were really guilty. The guilt would drive her insane.
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  132. @DavidDiaz you mean that Amanda was gaslit by the Perugia police?
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  133. @Robin you’re forgetting that the Kerchers were themselves victims. Not only of Rudy Guede, but of the police and prosecutors who lied to them. Amanda recently said in an Italian on Italian TV that she doesn’t blame the people in Italy who hate her because they were lied to and fed a fake story. The Kerchers were even more vulnerable to be fooled because of their grief and expectation that the authorities would give them answers. The Kerchers don’t owe Amanda an apology. They are owed an apology along with Amanda.
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  134. Each chapter of that book was riveting
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  135. Can someone please tell me what she said in this interview that was so self-incriminating?
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  136. Raffaele Sollecito’s lawyer called her “the Amelie of Seattle”
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  137. More like Barney Fyfe with a law degree
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  138. TheWPhilosopher — Mignini’s book is coming out soon. I’m glad he’s at least opened his mind enough to see Amanda’s humanity.
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  139. I just can’t believe she did it. If she did, she wouldn’t be talking about it in public. A guilty person wouldn’t be able to because of all the guilt they’d feel
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  140. Amanda has such a beautiful mind. She wrote a wonderful book, has such fascinating discussions on her podcast, she can sing (I have heard her in person), and she can speak Italian! Amanda should be held up as an example to girls who dream of having successful careers.
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  141. @dunkee not true. She ran back to her boyfriends apartment to tell him something as wrong, they went back together to inspect what happened and opened one of the rooms to find the window smashed open. Amanda called her parents, who told her to call the police
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  142. @Les Grossman - when I said “write new material,” I didn’t mean taking cheap shots. I meant making stronger arguments.
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  143. @Kaitlyn when Amanda say the blood on the sink, she thought Meredith may have cut herself. When she saw the blood on the floor, she though Meredith may have had her period - though she wondered how the menstrual blood would get on the sink. When she saw the shit in the toilet, she started to think someone had broken into the house. Since it seemed like such an unexpected thing, she went to ask her boyfriend what to do, then called her mom, who told her to call the police. It’s easy to understand why someone wouldn’t call the cops immediately, because most of us don’t want to accept the worst case scenario right away
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  144. It partially because he opted for an abbreviated trial, which automatically entitled him to a maximum number of years under Italian law. But I doubt his sentence would have been reduced to 16 years had the prosecution not minimized his role in Meredith’s murder. (His role, of course, was the only role)
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  145. I think this interview coincided with the release of Stillwater. When her case comes up again, she feels the need to make sure her side of the story is still taken into account.
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  146. @Parker Mudsen - see, that’s what the Stillwater film suggests. No wonder, she is angry over it.
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  147. I don’t disagree with anything the Judge has said. But I do think we should be finding ways to make criminal justice more rehabilitative. The “reforms” DA Chisholm implemented were obviously not the right kind of progressivism. But maybe the problem is that no one tried to help this man early in his criminal career. Maybe if we tried to rehabilitate criminals after their first offense, we’d see actual change.
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  148. @Joseph Eklund it is. Amanda write an article in The Atlantic criticizing it for “exploiting” her story
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  149. @Montecristo I’m one of her fanboys, I’ll admit it
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  150. Maybe the EU can be replaced with an alliance more in line with its original economic purpose
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  151. @DianaMincher of course you’d reduce anything Amanda does to sex! That’s all people have wanted to do with her since day one
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  152. I met her this past Saturday, Amanda I mean. It was at an innocence project event in Springfield, IL. She sang backup for a group called the Exoneree Band, whose members were also wrongly imprisoned. When I introduced myself to her, she insisted that I meet her husband and she dragged me around the building where the event was being held until we found him. They’re both very sweet people.
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  153. @Stoic Living - what makes you say that?
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  154. 😪
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  155. There are two things about Italy’s legal system I find superior to America’s: 1. Their appeals process allows for verdicts to be re-examined more easily to rectify false convictions. 2. Defendants can make “spontaneous declarations” during trials, in which they can contradict a witness’s testimony before their lawyers have a chance to cross examine.
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  156. No, I think she’s the perfect choice. The fact that she has been a victim of a false media campaign is clearly the reason she just lets these women tell their stories. Other interviewers might try to frame or read into their subjects’ words. But Amanda knows better; she endured the very thing with Diane Sawyer.
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  157. It’s especially believable, given the circumstances she was in, that she was susceptible to coercion. A 20 year old in a foreign country, traumatized and exhausted, with several police officers yelling at her.
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  158. As an autistic person, I can relate to this. When a situation just becomes too much, I need to go to a safe space where I’m not being bombarded by all the sensory input. In that context, Tamara’s actions make sense.
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  159. @Raindropsonroses - I’ve read her book and seen the interviews she conducted called “The Scarlet Letter Reports.” They show that she is very caring and thoughtful.
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  160. I loved that show! The ending was…whoa
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  161. She wouldn’t even make little tryouts, actually
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  162. @Kate Lewis: Mederith’s blood was mixed with Amanda’s because they lived in the same apartment (why wasn’t Amanda’s DNA in the blood at the murder scene; it was only in the blood found in other places of the house. Raffaele’s DNA on the bra was so small it had to have been result of contamination. This was established when a crime scene officer was filmed picking up the bra with gloves he’d used to handle other evidence. Her “accusation” of Patrick Lumumba was coerced.
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  163. I’d like to see Hannibal Lecter and Tom Ripley open a boarding school for children who display antisocial behavior.
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  164. Grief usually has stages. Two of those stages - denial and bargaining - tend to involve a delayed emotional response.
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  165. Amanda brings up at one point that this all could have been prevented if someone had tried to help Guede, gotten him help for his emotional problems
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  166. Every time I watch a video with Amanda or read something she’s written, I’m moved 🙂
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  167. @Janine Parra she never did a cartwheel. She did the splits when an officer asked her to show him a yoga move. (But if you go to her Instagram account, you can see a video of her doing cartwheels in her backyard. She calls it “typical Knox behavior”)
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  168. I’m reading her book right now.
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  169. @Iche—and you might have been able to produce something worth selling if you 1) hadn’t set an unrealistic goal 2) had allowed your research teams to work more collaboratively 3) had not taken credit for the accomplishments of your subordinates 4) had finished college
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  170. She has actually spoken about her sometimes. The reason she hasn’t most of the time is that she can’t tell the story from another person’s perspective. She doesn’t have the right to speak from Meredith’s point of view. It’s only possible for her to tell the story she saw with her own eyes
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  171. @connsaunders because racism is a uniquely American phenomenon?
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  172. I believe that someday the internet will crash and all digitized archives will disappear. I’d like it if each book lover tried to build their own personal Library of Alexandria. That would get us through the post-internet dark ages.
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  173. It makes me angry seeing the videos of her during her two trials. She looked so much like a child, I’m disgusted with the people who thought it was ok to do all that to her.
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  174. @StickerLady do you think bullies should be held legally accountable when their victims commit suicide?
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  175. @Javier - he’s right. But that speaks more to their innocence than it does to Amanda’s guilt.
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  176. @StephenWebb I understand your sentiment. But you’re not being fair to the Italians who have believed in her innocence and even worked to help set her free
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  177. I read in the New York Times that she is trying to sell the rights to her book to have a movie made.
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  178. @stxrobstar Amanda is one of my heroes. I love how she took back her power by being an advocate, and I live that she is t afraid to continue being quirky even when people like Piers Morgan call her “narcissistic”
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  179. @Torno the police told her she had amnesia and fed her a scenario where she say Patrick kill Meredith. She was so sleep-deprived, hungry, and going through her period - she believed them and thought the images being put into her head were real memories
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  180. @Torno they found a text Amanda had sent to Patrick and assumed they had met the night Meredith was killed. They were convinced Amanda was somehow involved (because of her “odd” behavior) and were desperate to find something that would implicate her. When they saw that she had another male friend who she may have seen the day of the crime, their preconceived bias led them to think this guy was somehow apart of the crime. I.e. guilt by his association with Amanda, whom they’d already decided was guilty
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  181. @Heathen I don’t find her off at all. I feel like no one would ever find her personality strange if she had never been accused of murder
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  182.  @raelalmiron7124  In prison, she did a lot of reading and managed to learn a foreign language. Both of which can enhance a person's grammar, syntax and elocution. And if you watch the videos of her speaking before 2015 vs those of her after 2015, you can tell that she became a much more confidant speaker once the stress of facing extradition was taken off her shoulders.
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  183. Even if he does win, the system is so corrupt that it will corrupt him. When you get elected, you have to sell out just to stay in office. 😔
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  184. Those jokes are getting old
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  185. The only place you’d find a “fairytale” like this would be in the original Brothers Grimm
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  186. I’m taking bets: Who thinks the answer someone gives to “How did it come to this?” will include a reference to Uncle David?
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  187. It’s a disturbing story
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  188. @FaceInTgeCrowd it took 8 years to exonerate her. But she was only in jail for 4
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  189. @Stellar this story has become her life. She didn’t choose for it to be so. But now she’ll have to spend her life constantly refuting what others say about her
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  190. How do you “look guilty?”
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  191. He family had to hire a PR firm just to counter the lies being told about her by the Italian newspapers
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  192. @SavageByotch - police and prosecutors will literally let their CIs get away with murder.
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  193. @Matt Rutledge - it’s difficult to get the measure of someone when you only focus on one aspect of her personality. I’ve seen many videos and podcasts featuring her, and read some of her writing (in addition to her book, she’s written many articles). If you look at her in a larger context, you’ll see that she is in no way hateful. She’s even taken steps to reconcile with her chief prosecutor, the man who went after her more than anyone.
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  194. @christopherbove1760 Any interesting stories from class?
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  195. @M C she covers a lot of that in her book.
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  196. There are two sides to every story. I highly recommend Amanda’s book. Her account makes a lot of sense.
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  197. I used to think the ACLU was in the right during this case. But that was when I thought it was only about the expression of ideas. When I found out that there was a real possibility the Nazis would do harm to Skokie residents, I reversed my position.
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  198. @John Scott it’s not separated if you believe her story of being coerced into accusing him. The fact that she wrote two separate recantation, in her own hand, within 24 hours of accusing Patrick - that alone should have rendered the initial statement inadmissible in my opinion.
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  199. @Anton is there anything in this interview which supports your statement?
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  200. @MrFufumann give me one statement she makes during this interview - just one quote, word-for-word - which makes her sound guilty
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  201. I know. But look at what an amazing woman her experiences have made her.
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  202. If she felt guilty for murder, then she wouldn’t be able to continue making her case in public. The guilt would break her. But she seems to be comfortable speaking
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  203. We should carve that quote above the entrance to the White House
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  204. @Luc Morra - he accusations were far from being “proven false.” If anything, the circumstances surrounding her interrogation support her account. Within an hour of making the “accusation,” she told police that she may have been confused, asked for a pen and paper, and wrote a statement saying she wasn’t sure. After being taken to a prison cell and getting some sleep, she realized what had happened, wrote down a full recantation, and asked a guard to take it to the police. The police who interrogated her did not tape the interrogation, which they are required to do with suspects. Their excuse was that Amanda was not yet a suspect but a witness. They obviously lied, because they’d been tapping her cell phone in days leading up to the interrogation. Also, it doesn’t make sense that she’d accuse Lumumba willingly in order to deflect suspicion. If she had a part in the murder, she’d have known that Guede raped Meredith and that his DNA would be at the scene. In fact, the prosecution alleged at trial that she somehow cleaned up her own DNA and left Guede’s intentionally. Why then would she accuse a man whose DNA she would have known wouldn’t be found? If she’d wanted to deflect suspicion, she would have made the same claims, only implicating Guede and not Lumumba. It is puzzling that they’d acquit her of murder and not also of defamation. I believe that upholding the defamation conviction was political: the court didn’t want their country’s police to shoulder the full blame for the fiasco, so they put some of the blame on Amanda.
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  205. I wonder if they now believe that they had been acting in her interest.
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  206. @imanahmadbaihaqi I agree
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  207. A wonderful and amazing woman who underwent an awful injustice, then decided to help others who’d gone through the same.
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  208. @khar better than you - there are three reasons to believe she was coerced: 1. The police didn’t record the interrogation. They are required to take interrogations of suspects, but they say Amanda was not a suspect at that point, she was a witness. This is a lie. They’d already been tapping her cell phone - something you only do with suspects. 2. Less than an hour after accusing Lumumba, she wrote of a statement saying she was confused and may not be remembering accurately. Hours later, when she had gotten some sleep, she wrote out a second statement recanting her accusation, saying they had been false emerges and that Lumumba was innocent. 3. If she accused Lumumba willingly, that would mean she was there that night. If she were there that night, she’d have known Rudy Guede had raped Meredith, and that Guede’s DNA would be at the scene. So, if she was lying to protect herself, why didn’t she accuse Guede. She told the police she’d been in the kitchen and heard Lumumba kill Meredith. But she’s have known Lumumba’s DNA wasn’t at the scene! Why didn’t she accuse the man whose DNA she’d know the police would find?
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  209. @Olivia’slove she came to the station without being asked, but she was asked to come into an office to answer questions.
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  210. @Darryn - which class?
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  211. Amanda’s first question: “What do you think people don’t know about you?” Of course, she’d ask that. She knows first-hand how the person can be lost in their own narrative.
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  212. @MichaelTrefethen what do you mean?
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  213. @Laurie involved how?
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  214. At least she’s describing someone else’s thinking, not her own
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  215. @namehere she said “bitch” because that’s what she would have said if the prosecutor’s theory had been true. She was saying it while in character.
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  216. An American is accused of murder in Italy, and the locals are like, “She doesn’t even go here!”
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  217. @Robin he’s currently writing a book.
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  218. @planet of the ape man - first of all, great screen name 👍🏻 Also, I’m sorry to hear you have that kind of relationship with your family
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  219. From what I’ve heard, Italians generally perceive Americans as narcissistic and racist.
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  220. One the nicknames the Italian press gave her was “Clever Fox”
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  221. A goddess! Her mind is even more beautiful than her body 🧠
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  222. I can’t imagine what that poor woman must have gone through or the strength it took to survive it
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  223. “Say my name.” “You’re Foxy Kn - “ “That’s NOT my name!”
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  224. If there was any to begin with.
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  225. @ContactInfo how many times do I have to say this: the police coerced and confused her into accusing Patrick Lumumba. She didn’t even think of him as a suspect until the cops make a big deal about a text she’d sent him. They are the ones who should give him financial compensation. I have nothing but sympathy for the poor man. But he’s simply bought into the same delusional fantasy that the Perugia police constructed out of thin air
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  226. @Aily she tried to live a private life after coming home, but the public kept showing an interest in her. The only way she was able to cope with the lack of privacy was to publicly speak about her ordeal - and to use her story to advocate for others
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  227. @Aily many of them have also become advocates and spoken against wrongful convictions. Amanda has met many of them at Innocence Project conferences
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  228. Spotify
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  229. @Alice E - her book made me want to cry
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  230. @Matt-Wars with all due respect, a person’s face and eyes can freeze for multiple reasons. Yes, it may be because they are lying and are trying hard to focus and not slip up. But they could also be trying to calm themselves down because a memory is so emotional. And if they are taken into account how they’d be perceived, it may be that they don’t want to be MISperceived as a liar: after having so many people read into her behavior, it’s understandable that Amanda would revert to a stoic face/posture so as not to give any trace of emotion that may be misconstrued. Behavioral analysis just seems like a crap shoot to me.
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  231.  @lucapostorino1963  fake info from anti-Knox sites like TJFMK
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  232. I love seeing her laugh
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  233. @MattRutledge - why do you say she doesn’t like American military members?
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  234. @Mr_mpeg - the Italian legal system does seem to have done advantages that ours lacks. If Knox and Sollecito had been convicted in the United States, then they would almost surely still be incarcerated today.
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  235. @Larkon979 just shows how little the Italian legal system cared about Meredith and her family
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  236. She pretty much sums up the absurdity of the prosecution’s entire argument.
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  237. @Anthony - I imagine she feels much older than she looks
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  238. I’m reading “The Battle for the Marble Palace” by Michael Bobelian. In 1968, LBJ tried to replace Earl Warren - the most liberal Chief Justice in American History - with his friend Abe Fortas. The result of the confirmation hearings continue to affect the state of our country today.
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  239. The police made her a victim. We should be mad at them
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  240. @______Heart - there are many Italians who also believe in her innocence. Following her and Raffaele’s exoneration, Italian lawyers and scientists began formed their country’s first Innocence Project devoted to exonerating wrongfully convicted people in their prisons.
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  241. She’s trying to raise awareness about wrongful convictions.
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  242. I think our country has been partially defined by the clash between racism and anti-racism. When we talk about racism in US history, we have to examine it in the context of a struggle, with racist people fighting against anti racist people.
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  243. At the very least it’s a misnomer. But the words we use do matter.
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  244.  @lesgrossman1274  we don't need to repeat the same posts over and over and over in order to get likes.
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  245. That man should not be given any public forum to spew his lies
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  246. @Leah Vogel that’s probably what Amanda thought
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  247. @Les proceeds should go to Meredith Kercher’s family
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  248. I think what Alexander meant was that if he couldn’t be the man who conquered the world, he’d see no point in doing anything. For Alexander, it was all-or-nothing.
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  249. Alexander: “Why are you digging through garbage?” Diogenes: “I’m looking for the bones of your father. But I cannot distinguish them from the bones of his slave.”
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  250. I wonder if Trump really believes the conspiracies. I don’t know if he’s clever enough to be a Machiavellian. He’s just delusional
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  251. Those are the events detailed in Preston’s book. It’s nonfiction
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  252. We know that accusation was coerced because if she really was there she would have known it was Rudy’s dna at the scene and not Patrick’s. Why not tell them it was Rudy she heard when they would have had an easier time believing that story instead ?
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  253. This quote reminds us that History is not the Past. History is what humans choose to remember and write down.
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  254. Dictators need mobs. The emotion-driven violence of a mass is the best way to counter the deliberative thought which threatens their hold on power.
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  255. OJ was guilty
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  256. I’d never heard of the Georgia Guidestones before they were destroyed. But I was nevertheless grieved.
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  257. I think Amanda would have made a great teacher. Did you know that the prison she was at had a nursery for inmates’ toddlers? She spent a lot of time playing with them
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  258. Because reporters used her to sell papers, and a prosecutor used her to become a celebrity
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  259. I love that Amanda is the interviewer. She’s an example, not just to women, but to anyone looking for strength.
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  260. When she was interviewed by Chris Cuomo (who asked her very inappropriate questions regarding her sexual history) she made it clear that Meredith was the real victim
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  261.  @pfcsantiago8852  you should check out some of her writing. If not her book, then the articles she's written for various publications. She's actually very well-read and thoughtful
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  262. I’d like to see Amanda sit down with some of the policemen and prosecutors involved in her case. She has actually been corresponding with the lead prosecutor, Mignini, for some time. The two have discussed meeting in person and having the meeting recorded.
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  263. Can you point to a specific time in the video when she looked guilty?
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  264. Who does that? Who walks up to a complete stranger and just berated them?
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  265. @sabine reynaud - In the other video, she looks like Carol Brady.
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  266. The media isn’t motivated by search for truth. Like any business industry, they’re mainly concerned with making money. Stories that excite or sensationalize sell better that calm, rational analysis.
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  267. Voyeurism?
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  268. Unfortunately, so many involved continue to suffer
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  269. @Roy the reason she still talks about this is because coercive interrogations and false convictions are still happening to other people.
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  270. You mean you were present during the murder? Or were you in Perugia while this was happening?
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  271. Based on what?
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  272. 3:25 he’s like “WTF you didn’t tell me he could do that!”
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  273. Amanda is A victim. But you’re right - Meredith is THE victim.
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  274. @pink Princess I think she’s classy
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  275. The media and prosecution made it a gender issue when they used negative female stereotypes and slut shaming to make her look guilty.
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  276. @Petersburg Tug - read Malcolm Gladwell’s book “Talking to Strangers “
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  277. We need to give her a new nickname. Any ideas?
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  278. Comparing Amanda Knox to OJ Simpson is an insult to Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman. Not to mention an insult to Meredith Kercher
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  279. Potential running mate?
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  280. The Kerchers have generally chosen not to put themselves in the public eye. I believe they’ve only given three or so interviews; and Meredith’s father only wrote a book because he felt his daughters story needed to be told
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  281. @Nakib J what does she say in this interview that makes you think this?
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  282. Dude, you’re a broken record
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  283. What is your reasoning?
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  284. I’d like to know that as well
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  285. 👄
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  286. Why do you say so?
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  287. @EckhartTrolle how do you know?
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  288. @Kevin Sha - why would she feel contempt for her mom?
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  289. It’s not fair that we live in a society with both telemarketing AND social media ads. We may as well have one, just because life isn’t supposed to be fair. But having BOTH is a socially-constructed injustice.
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  290. Sorry?
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  291. @Juraj I believe in her innocence. But you are right. Men are held to a higher standard when accused of crimes
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  292. @Les Grossman - seek therapy
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  293. Whenever I hear about a wrongful conviction case, I wonder were the police simply poorly-trained, or did they just want to get the investigation over with quickly?
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  294. Mathilde - she actually sent a letter to the Kercher family asking if she could meet with them in person. You can find several videos on YouTube of her saying she’d live to meet with them.
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  295. The book’s twist was somewhat predictable. But that didn’t make it any less shocking. 😱
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  296. @Roger what are your reasons for believing this?
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  297. @MichaelSmith it’s called contaminated evidence
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  298. Why do you believe she’s guilty ?
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  299. At the very least, they should lose their jobs
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  300. @YYY-Guy the government doesn’t restrict its right to move from one side of the road to the other
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  301. The prosecutor want to be the hero of a Helter Skelter-like crime, so her created a false narrative around the events to make Amanda seem like Charles Manson
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  302. @Leigh Piers Morgan knew Meredith Kercher’s dad - or claims he did - and has been critical of Amanda’s public comments
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  303. @Doug did the boyfriend have a history of violence?
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  304. She was coerced. The 3 statements she gave to the police (the first written by the police, the second handwritten and expressing confusion, the third a complete recantation) illustrate a person coming out of an induced state.
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  305. I saw this movie and thought it made the better case for “Greed is Good” than Gordon Gecko. Gecko was just a plunderer who wrecked things and picked up what was left. This film portrays Ray Kroc as a sonofabitch; but he’s a builder. His theft of the franchise is even somewhat excusable because he had the talent for building McDonalds into a national industry. We can all agree that the brothers were the real geniuses. But I don’t think they could’ve made McDonalds into the historical force it became.
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  306. @microspect like what?
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  307. Amanda wrote an article about the film in Atlantic Magazine. You can google it if you want to read it.
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  308. Any who opposes abortion should support federally funded birth control so less women will seek abortions
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  309. @Zachary nope. That was sarcasm
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  310. If you are reading, Amanda, you’re one of my heroes!❤️
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  311. @WoodDuck she’s expressed willingness to meet with them on multiple occasions. She’s said she’d like to tell them about Meredith’s last days in case they’d like to know what her life was like before her death
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  312. @Neil obvious, how?
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  313. @danielleisabellabanyard9968 9 Trump is Clodius Pulcher
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  314. Sometimes God tests us
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  315. @Maria she came to your school after her release? Or was it before?
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  316. Why?
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  317. Ok, I’m not a meteorologist; so please correct me if I’m wrong. Isn’t there supposed to be nothing in the center of a hurricane?
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  318. @theseoldbeats do you think there is some way that cops can be trained not to be influenced by their first impressions and preconceptions?
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  319. Definitely?
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  320. To the claim that western academia is “white supremacist” I respond with Harold Bloom’s argument that people living in western countries learn to be “universal” by discovering universal truths within the central Western Canon.
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  321. @Stanley13 and hysteria can ruin the lives of innocent people
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  322. I’ve read it. And I believe her.
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  323. I can understand the reappropriating of the word “slut,” and I’m glad she’s not ashamed if people use her sexuality to harm her. But I don’t think I’m out of line by pointing out that art should meet certain aesthetic standards. Personally, I don’t think photographing a buttocks meets that standard.
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  324. I’m jealous and she’s not even my girl
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  325. @JBA SPORTS NETWORK what type of role do you think she played? Do you think she was the actual killer, or just an accomplice?
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  326. I wish it were easy to approach someone with the willingness to just give them a chance. Is it human nature to form preconceptions? Or are we taught to preconceive?
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  327. In an earlier interview (I think with Chris Cuomo) she says she thought courts were like scientific laboratories where you separate fact from fiction to find the truth. She found out that trials were basically story-telling competitions where the better story is the one that wins.
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  328. How did her middle class status impact the ruling?
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  329. @Paul she claims an officer asked her to show him a Yoga move after she told him she was into yoga. The police, she says, asked her about her personal habits
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  330. @Make Love at what point in the video?
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  331. @TomLeach why?
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  332. Tragedy makes us wise. That’s my answer to the Problem of Suffering. Pain makes us better so that we can make the world better.
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  333. @h t ?
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  334. I like it when interviewers are empathetic. You should see Joe Rogan’s interview with her on Spotify
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  335. She’d just had a baby
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  336. She must feel like she’s cursed.
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  337. @NeonHologram666 you don’t think it’s good for abuse survivors to hear that they’re not alone?
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  338. If Amanda had never been exposed to such “showdowns” before coming to Italy, she’d probably crack after experiencing it for the first time
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  339. @dee why are you so sure that she really killed Meredith?
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  340. It puts being an American in perspective. I hear people point to cases of suffering and injustice in America as if to say, “we aren’t really free.” And yes, there is suffering and injustice in America. The difference is we can actually DO something about it. We have courts, elections, freedom of assembly, the means to raise awareness by communicating with each other - freedom isn’t the absence of problems. It’s the ability to address problems ❤️🇺🇸
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  341. @Les Grossman - no, you’re thinking of your awful screenplay which you keep trying to sell in these comment sections. Yeah, I know, I need to “seek therapy.”
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  342. CHURCH The minister is British The choir is Italian The organist is German The communion wine is French SEX The woman is German Her underwear is Italian Her perfume is French She likes to read books by classic British authors
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  343. @KimMurphy that documentary was very pro-Knox
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  344. I’d actually like to see her interviewed about something other than the case. She’s so well-read and knowledgeable about a variety of subjects.
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  345. @LesGrossman why was Rudy’s the only dna at the crime scene? And how does a twenty year old girl convince two men she barely knows to participate in a sex killing?
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  346. If Frank Kafka and George Orwell collaborated on a novel, it would basically be her case.
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  347. You think it was too soon?
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  348. Giuliano Mignini, the prosecutor, is also publishing a book.
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  349. If she was the primary killer and Guede a mere accomplice, then why was Guedes dna all over the room but not hers?
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  350.  @lucapostorino1963  if by "murder scene" you mean the house, then you're right: her dna was all over places she'd been walking over for 5 weeks. But if you mean the room where Meredith was found, then no, none of her dna was there. The prosecution even said there wasn't any because she'd cleaned it up.
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  351. @Bandana sounds interesting. But I usually prefer books to movies. Could you perhaps recommend any books informative on the same subject?
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  352. @Hayley I wonder if she’ll ever write another book about something other than the case. I know she has a lot of hobbies and interests
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  353. @Sup there was absolutely nothing in her words to suggest she was thinking she got away with it.
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  354. @Mytrip - OMG where did you meet her? I sent her an email recently, and she sent me a very nice reply.
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  355. @Mytrip - I’d love to hear what you and Edda discussed.
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  356. Gasp Tucker Carlson keeps saying “crack” second gasp That’s a reference to black drug dealers third gasp some someone is calling me a racist implying that only black people deal crack
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  357. @A.M. I’m hoping to read her book before the year is over
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  358. I believe God allows people to get hurt so that people can learn to make the world better. I also believe the work Amanda is doing is her way of trying to make the world better.
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  359. Which parts?
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  360. @LitChick she did nothing to atone for. She was victimized and instead of feeling sorry for herself, she’s working to empower other victims.
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  361. She says the media should “hold officials accountable to the truth.” Is it even possible for the press to be, primarily, a democratic institution - as it was conceived to be - a check on government power? Or is it inherently a business model?
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  362. How can you be sure you know the facts that you’re unwilling to hear both sides?
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  363. That ones getting old 😉
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  364. Why do you think she’s guilty?
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  365. @madera648 there was a mountain of evidence against OJ. All they had against Amanda was she’s-an-American-girl-who-likes-sex.
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  366. I thought the bandana was cute
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  367. @Men of England your argument doesn’t even merit the label of “appeal-to-authority fallacy.” No disrespect to you and your countrymen, but being an Englishman does not make one an authority on murder investigations.
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  368. Why not?
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  369. @Sam why?
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  370. @Georgie Sov since when does being happy make someone a murderer?
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  371. We should have stayed and set up a DMZ zone. It will take us decades to atone for the shame of abandoning our friends
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  372. I'm glad cases like Daisy's are being examined in law schools.
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  373. @MichelleBelle why do you think she’s guilty?
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  374.  @michellebelle5327  she said that when she saw the blood, she thought it was from pierced ears, that she never imagined someone could have been murdered (and let's face it, who would want to choose that as their first guess?). The "cut" was a hickey. "Body Language" doesn't follow mathematical axioms, in other words no two people's bodies would react the same way to every same situation.
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  375. Isnt it possible that, having had to relive the experience over and over again in her mind for years, she just doesn’t automatically react to it it’s emotion anymore ?
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  376. Huh?
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  377. Who?
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  378. @TheSixthChild are you familiar with her account of the interrogation in which she accused Patrick? Even if smith don’t believe her version of the facts, what she recounts is a textbook description of coercive tactics. If her version of the facts is true, then it’s almost mathematically certain that she is not responsible for accusing an innocent man - the police are.
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  379. @Golden Gate Art and what exactly do a murderers eyes look like?
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  380. @MattLyons how so?
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  381. @Matt Lyons I have not read it, but I certainly will. Thanks for recommending
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  382. She was coerced into making that accusation
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  383. Holy shit! Is there an article I can google?
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  384. She’s had to tell the story many, many times.
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  385. @theeggtimer why can’t you take her?
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  386. Want what?
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  387. And Amanda felt it exploited her
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  388. @GingerNightmare I’ve been meaning to read his book. Did he write that he believes Knox and Sollecito are guilty.
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  389. @Robin that is not at all fair! I believe she’s innocent, but the Kerchers don’t owe her anything. If they are unwilling to admit her innocence, then it just further makes them victims. They were lied to and taken advantage of by the police, prosecution and media.
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  390. The police coerced her into accusing that man. She may not know what it’s like to suffer racism. But her experience with police corruption would naturally make her sensitive to other victims of that corruption. Just look at the sympathy in her face when she hears Ms. Morris’ story.
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  391. @OppositeOfNinja which statements?
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  392. @Marchello it’s a legitimate question: what does she say in the interview that makes one think she is lying?
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  393. @StantonDavid then why did you bother to comment?
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  394. I think Italians generally have a skewed perspective on Americans’ overall philosophy. Americans have always valued individualism, seeing it as a form of responsibility in which a person takes charge of their own destiny. Italians - indeed most Europeans - have been shaped by a history based upon collectivism and shared responsibility among citizens. Therefore, it’s not surprising that Italians would conflate American individualism with selfishness.
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  395. She says she couldn’t get much sleep between interrogations. Since her house was a crime scene, she had to sleep in someone else’s apartment. She was on edge, thinking that Meredith’s might come after her. She was racking her brain trying to think of who may have killed Meredith and why.
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  396. Meredith was THE victim. But Amanda is still A victim.
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  397. Not funny
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  398. @Mr.Headcase why do you say?
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  399. Reminds of when Saddam Hussein’s lawyers were being targeted.
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  400. @Mateusz - I’ve seen her speak in many YouTube videos. I’ve found her to be charming, polite and considerate.
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  401. @conn Saunders - I just don’t think she could keep it up this long if it were an act. Also, if she acted nervous or frustrated, people would call that a sign of guilt. She can’t win with those who’ve already decided she’s guilty
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  402. @conn saunders- if she were guilty and were going to intentionally place the blame on someone else, then it wouldn’t have been Patrick Lumumba. It would have been Rudy Guede. For her to be guilty would have meant she saw Rudy rape Meredith. In which case, she’d have known his dna would be found inside Meredith’s body. So why not say she heard Rudy kill Meredith from the kitchen? The only reason she’d name Patrick is if she were both innocent and coerced. That amounts to circumstantial evidence and should have been enough to acquit her of slander.
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  403. @conn saunders we can’t all be superheroes
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  404. @conn saunders - yeah, I can be a murderer, you could be a murderer. And either one of us could withstand harsh interrogation - or we could both break eventually if pushed to our limits.
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  405. What is it you think she knew? I hear everyone saying that. Honestly I think it’s just a cop out for people who don’t want to take sides.
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  406. I admit that a misperception of American values played a role in public opinion against her. But there are a great many Italians who I believe deserve credit for having looked at the evidence and chosen to support Amanda.
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  407. Why?
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  408. I sure she would find that line of reasoning insulting
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  409. Because of her story, Amanda Knox is the perfect person to interview these women. Look at her face when she’s listening to the stories. The facts that she listens more than she talks speaks a lot to her character.
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  410. @Sauce Johnson but those weren’t the ones telling “SHAME!” outside the courthouse the night she was acquitted.
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  411. Hypatia’s death was a loss to science. But she wasn’t killed for making a controversial scientific discovery. She was killed for supporting the Roman governor’s authority over the encroachment of theocracy.
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  412. What does this friend say exactly?
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  413. He already has day release 🤮
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  414. I work as a recess supervisor at an elementary school. The second graders like to play the red-light-green-light game. Yes. There are seven- and eight-year-olds watching this show.
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  415. She already had one miscarriage (which some people actually celebrated!) and, yes, I think she announced she’s pregnant again.
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  416. Based on what I’ve seen of their public statements, they feel confused by all of the conflicting views and information. Personally, I think they aren’t sure of Amanda and Raffaele’s guilt - but are inclined to think they’re guilty
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  417. I love this video, but, yes, I think including Trump was a mistake. It sends a message to Trump supporters that you have to be against Trump if you want to help women who have been harassed.
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  418. She’s trying to do good by making the conversation about flaws in our legal system. And people undermine it by repeating lies. So in a way, attacking Amanda could have consequences for people other than her
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  419. @nnhk00 I think talking about it is part of her recovery. By talking about a traumatic experience, you own it so that it can no longer hurt you
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  420. She’s so cute it should be a sin ☺️
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  421. @Tasteless I didn’t know that Guilty was an aesthetic
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  422. Why can’t one abused woman interview another?
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  423. If I do go, I’m definitely reading up on their criminal procedure laws before getting on the plane
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  424. @PalmerWhit what convinced you?
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  425. I think pro-life justices are afraid to overturn Roe v Wade. They are afraid of the social unrest that would result. It’s the same kind of thinking that led Roberts to vote to uphold Obamacare - a ruling not based upon the Constitution but upon politics.
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  426. How could they have believed all of that and yet still have found her not guilty?
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  427. @bill Barry don’t you have to kill at least three people to be considered a serial killer?
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  428. People say she shouldn’t have “made herself into a celebrity.” Personally, I think she’s a gift to the world.
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  429. @_______Heart - look at the four written rulings in the Knox/Sollecito cases. They reveal how contradictory and far-removed from the facts a court’s opinion can be. Possibly the only thing on which the defense and prosecution agree is that the final ruling from Italy’s Supreme Court made no sense.
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  430. I think she’s an Angel
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  431. When an innocent person is victimized, the original victim is being victimized again because they are denied Justice.
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  432. @Matthew Smith if my “the barman” you mean her boss, Patrick Lumumba, he was cleared. Not only did he have an alibi, Knox herself recanted her accusation of him within 24 hours, and now says the police coerced her into implicating him
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  433. Apparently she’s very popular in Ireland because people there associate her imprisonment with how their Northern Irish brethren were treated during the Troubles.
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  434. One thing she deserves praise for is her attempts to reconcile with her former prosecutor Giuliano Mignini. During her speech to the Italian Innocence Project, she said it was wrong to view him as completely evil and his actions should be viewed as having genuinely human motives. The two of them have been in contact for several years, and have even discussed collaborating on a documentary. He still does not believe she is innocent, however.
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  435. Now that she’s exonerated, she’s not afraid if her statements keep being taken out of context. After the Italian court’s final decision, she can never be sent back to jail.
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  436. @Robin - God Bless You ❤️
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  437. @rickowensdemon I never thought I’d be willing to give him credit - but that guy could make a movie ten times as good as anything Shyamalan has made
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  438. Why not?
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  439. @John Kimmel I’ve seen her talk in multiple videos and I just don’t buy it. For her to completely hurt the fact that she killed somebody and constantly put on a smile and talk about how she wasn’t there - she’d have to be a robot. Not a psychopath, a robot. I’m sorry, but I totally believe her
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  440. @John Kimmel if if she’s suppressed most of it, I’m sure bits and pieces would pop up in her memory occasion- such as in dreams. The stress of partial memory alone would prevent her from speaking so confidently in public.
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  441. I think it’s her way of giving back. Her prosecution and incarceration showed her the way crimes can be poorly investigated, so she is providing her perspective on true crime cases. A lot of her podcast has been devoted either to victims of wrongful convictions, or to women who were defamed or exploited by the legal system and/or the media.
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  442. She was coerced into naming him. He should have sued the police officers who conducted Amanda’s “interrogation”
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  443. I’d like her to interview Marcia Clark on her podcast. Both women were transformed by the media into avatars for society’s views on sex.
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  444. @DizzieDaCrazzie88 maybe you shouldn’t have children. I’d hate for any kid to have you as their example.
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  445. He was also the only one linked to the crime scene by hard physical evidence. While the police “found” Knox and Sollecito’s DNA on a knife and part of Meredith’s bra, it was so minuscule that it had to have arrived there via contamination- especially since the police were videotaped not using basic procedures of preserving the scene. For the prosecution’s theory to have been true, Knox and Sollecito’s dna would have had to be all over that room
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  446. And even if it were, her personality is absolutely adorable ☺️
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  447. She’s gotten more beautiful with age
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  448. Me too, Amanda! I’m so sorry for these terrible things people are saying about you.
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  449. 4 years
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  450. The doc offered a lot of reasons why she didn’t
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  451. I read his book. What parts does this interview contradict?
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  452. @Alicia if he did, he’d have pointed out that the police already thought Patrick Lumumba killed Meredith, told Amanda she had amnesia, and fed her lines to say implicating Patrick.
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  453. Read the article she just wrote for the Independent. She mentions how whenever she goes to an exoneree conference, most of the people there are old men of color
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  454.  @JM-uf1py  do you know the link for the whole interview?
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  455. Prayers for his safe recovery.
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  456. She never said the 53 hours were consecutive. That was the total amount of time she was asked questions by the police over the course of five days.
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  457. She’s only summarizing what other people were saying about her
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  458. @Joe I believe it is called talking
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  459. That should say “@Jon,” sorry
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  460. I’m scared
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  461. I lived there for five years until last August. It’s wonderful. I never had less trouble getting a job. My bosses made accommodations for my autism. Businesses are everywhere offering a multitude of services. And almost everybody is the nicest person ever. They’re no bigoted: it has the largest Muslim population in the US, I passed at least one Muslim every day. The smoke shop I visited gave me a permanent discount because I came in so often.
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  462. @Arrania Winter what doesn’t add up?
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  463. @Ti Asara - correct. But she isn’t likely to ever receive compensation. What she also deserves - and what we are able to give her - is love. ❤️
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  464. @Luca Postorino - I’d like to think I’m man enough to show women respect.
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  465. @LesGrossman I recently learned something about Dostoevsky. He believed that there are no evil people. He saw evil being like an infection that makes a person sick. The only way to removed the infection, he thought, was to show the person unconditional love. Love is how you remove evil from someone.
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  466. @essentialgmbest today - I don’t know if it applies to your situation, but here’s a Winston Churchill quote: “You have enemies? Good! Then you’ve stood up for something at sometime in your life.”
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  467. @Jennifer I empathize with her a lot. I have Asperger Syndrome and, as a child, was always getting yelled at because the things I said were always being taken out of context
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  468. @four-fux-sake Her dna was on the handle because she used it to cut tomatoes. The “blood” on the blade was actually tomato juice. She was acting that way after the murder because she was freaking out and was trying to calm down. She bought the lingerie because she couldn’t enter the apartment to get clean underwear. The police coerced both her and her boyfriend into changing their statements. She wrote a book and used the money to pay her legal fees. She has since become an activist for the wrongly accused, and has made a career running podcasts addressing social issues and true crime
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  469. I also hate that Meredith has been forgotten. But I don’t believe it is Amanda’s fault
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  470. I literally didn’t know about this case until I saw the “Mind Over Murder” documentary
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  471. @J Briggs then she’s a Hannibal Lecter-level psychopath. That would be the only way she’s been able to argue her innocence in public for so long. Of course, Hannibal Lecter is a fictional character, and the media has promoted unrealistic images of what a psychopath is.
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  472. @Revolve! Who cares?!
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  473. Boring? I could listen to her for hours
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  474. Why do you say so?
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  475. When Amanda was in prison, her diary - which contained the names of literally every man she’d ever slept with - was leaked to the press. She only wrote the names because the prison doctor “accidentally” told her she had AIDS and was trying to figure out who gave it to her.
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  476. @Miriam she’s still giving interviews because people keep asking the same questions you just did. Amanda has said multiple times that she went home from her boyfriends to shower, thought the door was open because they’d been having problems with the latch, saw blood on the sink, thought it was her own blood from having her ears pierced, took a shower, saw more blood, thought it was menstrual, then saw feces in the toilet, and thought someone had broken in because everyone in the house always flushed. She didn’t immediately call the police because she thought there would be some other explanation, but she went back to her boyfriend’s to ask him if he thought the situation seemed strange.
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  477. @Fire pixie - what is one lie she told during the interview?
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  478. There are plenty of videos where she does cry and show emotion
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  479. @Leoparduo - the only thing political was the decision by the courts to uphold her conviction for defaming Patrick Lumumba. The evidence showed she was coerced, and it doesn’t make sense she’d be innocent of murder AND have accused him willingly. The courts only upheld that conviction to keep Italy’s legal system from being completely humiliated. They wanted her to bear some of the blame.
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  480. @Flerg3 you would what?
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  481. @Saint it’s rare to see a famous person who doesn’t need it 😍
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  482. PLEASE TELL US WHY, DETECTIVE
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  483. You should hear her sing!
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  484. @Ashley it sounds like she is just trying to find the right words. That happens to me a lot when I’m having a conversation: I know what I want to say but it takes me a moment to figure out how to communicate it verbally.
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  485. @Neal oh wow. What has he had to say?
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  486. @Alexander Ordinary what exactly do you think she knows?
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  487. There’s only one dimension in which we should judge guilt or innocence: which narrative confirms to the facts?
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  488. @JesseB I can’t stand when people tiptoe around the murder charge by saying “she knows something.” What does that mean? Was she an accomplice? Did she witness Meredith’s murder? Did someone confess to her, before or after the fact? Saying she “knows more” isn’t an argument.
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  489. @JasonMullins I haven’t read that. What kind of similarities do you see?
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  490. What are the differences? This is the only interview by Rogan I’ve seen.
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  491. What about her do you find frustrating?
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  492. And she did become fluent, being surrounded by native Italian speakers on a daily basis.
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  493. @Matt M - slavery may have been abolished in most places. But people are still seen as commodities everywhere.
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  494. You know what’s weird? They found Amanda’s DNA mixed with Meredith’s blood throughout the house - which is understandable because Amanda lived in the house and would have left her DNA everywhere long before the murder. But there was no Amanda DNA in Meredith’s room, where the murder happened. That is circumstantial evidence suggesting Amanda was never in Meredith’s room.
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  495. I’m reading the book right now. I wish I’d read it in school. It should be required reading for 4th or 5th grade, IMO.
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  496. There wasn’t just prompting: there was yelling, lying (by the cops), two hits to the head, and almost no sleep
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  497. @Scott Ridings in the Whitney interview, she says that none of the interviewees were paid. It would have called their credibility into question.
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  498. @AlexisGarcia most importantly, she doesn’t judge or make these women feel like they are to blame. I wish Diane Sawyer had shown Amanda the same courtesy during her own interview.
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  499. Polygraphs are not reliable
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  500. I’d like to see Amanda interview the actress from Amelie in one of her podcasts. Amelie is Amanda’s favorite film and she was actually watching it at her boyfriends apartment while Meredith was being killed.
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  501. Based on what?
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  502. @KayaRuppo it’s been documented that many narcissists and psychopaths are attracted to the financial industry
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  503. @Dale Snider whose power are we talking about?
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  504. @Dale I’m just asking who are you referring to with your comment?
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  505. Weirdo is the new sexy
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  506. @Kiki save her from what?
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  507. @Scorpion evidence?
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  508. @Kinotaurus Meredith’s death was a tragedy. But why shouldn’t Amanda get to have nice things?
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  509. Why what?
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  510. I can’t believe he still kept his job
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  511. @G Man - she stayed in Perugia to help the police, even though he family said she should get on the next plane home.
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  512. And she was convicted based on a knife that had been contaminated. The police didn’t even put the knife into an evidence bag, and left it next to other evidence containing both girl’s dna.
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  513. @Deep Blue while waiting at the police station, she mentioned to one of the officers that she knew Yoga. He asked her to show her s Yoga technique, so she did a splits, not a cartwheel.
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  514. @Fedja what exactly is that “something?” I’m sorry, it’s just I’ve heard so many people say that she-isn’t-the-killer-but-is-hiding-something without following with any elaboration.
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  515. @Rob what kind of involvement?
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  516. @S Barb I didn’t know that. But one would have to see if Knox and Sollecito had any history of participating in such games.
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  517. An exoneree who is working to bring about criminal justice reform
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  518. I’m high on Amanda Knox
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  519. Inside and out
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  520. @Hermes McClintok - she was describing the prosecutor’s state of mind. He didn’t use those exact words. But during his closing statement, he invented a dialogue that supposedly took place between Amanda and Meredith the night of Meredith’s murder.
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  521. I sent her an email. She gave me a really nice response. I hope to meet her in person someday
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  522. Actually, the police forced her to make that statement. Also, she recanted it the next day, after she’d gotten some sleep.
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  523. @L J you can smell her through your phone screen?
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  524. Why do you think so?
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  525. In her book, she says she was focused on helping the police find the killer; and she thought the reason they were being so harsh with her was because they desperately wanted her to remember something that would help. She says she still thought that, at that point, she and the police wanted the same thing.
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  526. She’s not “cashing in.” She’s speaking for others who have suffered like herself
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  527. She’s the female Damien Echols.
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  528. She’s gonna be a wonderful mother.
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  529. @evie - since posting that, I met Amanda and we have become friends. I’ve met her husband and their daughter. When you see the way little Eureka looks at Amanda, you know she is being loved. I can’t believe someone who is capable of committing murder, then lying about it for years, can show a child that much love.
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  530. @Mogio if one body language “expert” says she’s lying, another with just say she’s telling the truth
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  531. @Tsarina - wonderful woman, my role model
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  532. @DevinDevin Amanda Knox is a hero.
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  533. Well, she was slapped during her interrogation
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  534. @PhillyFan such as?
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  535. @Guiness I don’t think so. The prosecution’s theory regarding motive was sensational and sounded like something from a movie. A large part of their argument was based around her behavior following the murder, all of which had logical explanations. Finally, the physical evidence was later shown to have be handled improperly and likely contaminated
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  536. @KayAichJay we need to have some mechanism in place that will hold prosecutors accountable when the people they’ve convicted have been exonerated
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  537. I’ve seen her Instagram. It’s wonderfully weird. She and her husband are total nerds and I envy them their life.
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  538.  @alabama.worley  A Supreme Court is not evidence. They only put those things in the report to allow the police to save face. That was also the reason they upheld the Calunnia conviction - they had to push some of the blame onto Amanda so it wouldn't all fall on the cops. When Raffaele applied to the government for restitution, they said he had done things to make himself appear guilty. That also shows how officials will twist facts to cover up mistakes. Why would anyone make themselves look guilty? They wouldn't! No one involved in the investigation/prosecution wants to admit that the problem was with their own perception of these two peoples' behavior.
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  539. @Devin Price some women just become more beautiful with age
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  540. @Mop Topzzz - why do you believe she is guilty?
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  541. @Koyla Brown - what about her do you find disingenuous?
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  542. @Luca Postorino - no, I don’t believe I will. I just like talking too much 😊
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  543. Her prosecutor is writing a book on the case. So is the actual killer Rudy Guede
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  544. @Seth Carroll it looks like she simply paused to search for the right words
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  545. @Boyce Mark and who exactly was she having this second conversation with?
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  546. @PabloGonzales why not?
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  547. And if she’d said “best friend” each time, you’d say it sounded rehearsed. Amanda just can’t win with the skeptics, or so it seems
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  548. I wish more journalist would own their mistakes, and admit the stories they reported were rushed and not fact-checked. In the Netflix doc, they interviewed on of the guys who reported on the Kercher murder; and he just kept making excuses.
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  549. I think Amanda would kick OJ’s ass.
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  550. @David Swanson I know what you mean. I am on the autistic spectrum, and was often in situations I didn’t fully understand. This led people to think I was inconsiderate or doing something wrong
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  551. He should have sued the police. Since they coerced Amanda’s statement against him, it was they who committed the defamation
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  552. Then what is she guilt of ?
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  553. Scholars of Dante’s Divine Comedy differentiate between Dante the Pilgrim (what Dante “knew” as a character in the story) and Dante the Poet (what he “now knows” as the author of the story). When listening to Amanda tell the story, it’s important to know when she is speaking as the “pilgrim” and when she is speaking as the “poet.”
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  554. It’s true that a person’s brain is t fully developed until age 26. I sometimes wonder if we should raise the voting age to 26.
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  555. He should have sued the police for making Amanda say it was him.
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  556. I don’t think she did it.
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  557. To pay her legal fees
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  558. Why do you think she did it?
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  559. @bjulia33 are you violating the ‘NDA by posting this?
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  560. @shareelove a very persuasive argument 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
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  561. @LesGrossman I have an idea for the movie adaptation of her book to open: Amanda walks into the apartment the night of Nov 1. She tells Meredith that Raffaele’s sink is leaking and she’s bringing a mop. Guede breaks in, attacks the girls, they fight him, he’s knocked on conscious. Amanda grabs Meredith’s hand and pulls her towards the door. Meredith won’t budge. Amanda: “C’mon, we need to get out of here.” Meredith: “This isn’t how it happened.” Amanda: “Meredith! He could wake up. We need to get - “ Meredith: “Amanda! It didn’t happen this way.” Amanda: “It did happen this way! I was here, we fought him off, I got you out!” Meredith “Amanda - “ Amanda: “We need to get out!” Meredith: “Amanda, you need to - “ Amanda: “No!” Meredith: “Amanda!” Amanda: “Please, God, please no! Don’t wake me up!” Amanda wakes up in her cell at Capanne prison. It was a dream of what she wishes had happened.
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  562. This is what happens when the news because consumer-based. They focus the reporting on sex because sex sells.
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  563. What makes it so apparent?
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  564. I’ve said this a thousand times: the police already thought Mr. Lumumba did it, so they coerced her into saying he did. No you know what? She’s had to explain it a thousand times as well
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  565. @AeliusRomanus - it was a nickname she was given in school because she was fast on the soccer field
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  566. @Joa*81 what has been your experience with the Italian police?
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  567. And now she has to look forward to explaining it all to her daughter. I hope Eureka will be proud of her mom ❤️
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  568. Are you sure? He doesn’t seem to challenge what she’s saying.
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  569. Then they shouldn’t have shifted the attention off of Meredith and into Amanda.
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  570. I want to see her have a bigger public presence. You should watch her series, The Scarlet Letter Reports
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  571. I find her extremely likable
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  572. Would you say it’s systematic?
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  573. Since her baby was born, she has said she’d like to sell the rights to her book to have a film made. She says it would be so she is financially independent and won’t have to keep using her story to make a living.
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  574. I don’t understand why so many people believe she is a liar.
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  575. I think she should be a role model for young women
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  576. …and men
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  577. Or maybe just some humility
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  578. And they just pretend LGBTQ conservatives don’t exist.
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  579.  @TheTruthCalls  The only thing more dangerous than giving power to an evil person is giving it to an honest fool. The Duke Lacrosse players may have been exonerated so quickly because their prosecutor was so obviously evil. As easy as it is to hate him, Mignini was actually a good man - Amanda herself has said this. He was present when Meredith's mother identified her daughter's body, and was determined to get the Kercher family justice. Men like Mignini are scarier than villains because their good intentions don't allow them to admit their mistakes.
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  580. She’s a hero
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  581. I need to start listening to Amanda’s true crime podcast. I’d like to see her cover the Garrett Phillips Murder case (there’s a documentary about it on Hulu)
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  582. @Kyle Kennan why do you believe so?
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  583. @Vicki thoughts on what? A laugh?
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  584. @roberts1711 - thank you for the recommendation. I read Amanda’s book and have been looking for other books about the case.
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  585. @Les Grossman - if Amanda took such little interest in her job, as all of her detractors say, then why would it bother her that Meredith was gonna take on some of the work?
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  586. @Mytrip - exactly, she had no reason to fear Meredith’s “invading her trrritory”
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  587. She co-wrote a book of poems with her husband Chris. I just ordered it from Amazon and an waiting for it. It’s called “The Cardio Tesseract”
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  588. @glittermoon LOL, no. But I have met both of them, and their baby daughter. They really are wonderful people.
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  589. 11:15 those who still believe in her guilt should start watching here
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  590. @DianaMincher you don’t think she’s being sincere?
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  591. @KateLewis it’s my understanding that much of the evidence against her was contaminated. Also, the witnesses called by the prosecution were either encouraged to come forward after being prodded by the media, or lacked credibility. One witness who claimed to have seen AK and RS outside of RS’s apartment had worked with Mignini before. During his testimony, Mignini got him to backtrack after he said something that didn’t support the prosecution’s case
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  592. Her boyfriend’s faucet had a leak; that’s why she brought the mop. The “scratch” was a hickey. If she had received it in a struggle, then her dna would have been under Meredith’s fingernails. It’s entirely believable she was coerced. And not only because she recanted - twice - within 24 hours. It doesn’t make sense that she’d willingly accuse Patrick if she knew Rudy’s dna would be found. If she wanted to save herself, she’d have told the same story, but with Rudy in the role of Patrick.
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  593. @Luca the only argument for him “faking the leak” is that you’ve already decided he’s guilty (aka confirmation bias). You can say the same thing about her “clean[ing] up the murder scene.” When there’s no evidence, then it proves lack of evidence. You can only say the evidence was cleaned up if you’re desperate to believe there’s some explanation for its absence.
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  594. @Dean G you should also see her series, The Scarlet Letter Reports, all of which are on YouTube
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  595. @Soohia Wilson ?
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  596. Why?
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  597. Involved in what way?
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  598. What does that mean?
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  599. How can you be SO sure man?
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  600. @ShannonTodd I hope the Italian prosecutor watches these videos. He put so much emphasis on Amanda’s personality and external behavior. I wonder what he’d think of the person she is when she talks to women who’ve been hurt.
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  601. Because miscarriages of justice still happen. Investigators can study cases like this as examples of how NOT to approach a case
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  602. Are you kidding?! She’s amazingly hot!!!
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  603. @blink1892 she interviewed Representative Morris of Vermont who was intimidated into resigning through racist threats.
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  604. @JonathanXavier that’s not true. The police targeted Patrick because of his race and coerced Amanda into saying he killed Meredith. She recanted her statement the next day and the prosecutor didn’t believe her.
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  605. Why do you believe she is guilty?
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  606. He did the same thing the prosecutors in the West Memphis Three case did. Using the horrible nature of the crime to create a sensationalist narrative. In both cases, the authorities turn the case into a conspiracy theory.
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  607. @themoistbanana why do you say that?
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  608. Even when the police’s intentions aren’t malicious, they can make mistakes. That is why we have an adversarial system, where defense attorneys are analogous to editors going over a first draft. A defense lawyer’s job is to look at police investigations from an alternative perspective - free of confirmation bias - to notice if mistakes were made.
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  609. 3:10 OMG, it’s like the prospect of him running again caused her physical pain!
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  610. @GRockBlues did you discuss the Kercher case with any of the locals?
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  611. Mr Kaplan seems to be forgetting the two-man rule.
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  612. @Orlando Santiago - there’s a documentary on Hulu, “Who skilled Garrett Phillips?” It was the first time I learned that the results of DNA testing can be subject to interpretation. From watching CSI, I assumed that DNA test results spoke for themselves. But, apparently, the scientist running the test can influence how the results are presented.
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  613. @Human Lice is this a reference to the Italian scientists who were prosecuted for not anticipating an earthquake?
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  614. Her side was full of lies? The official story - propagated by both the prosecution and the media - was a total conspiracy theory. No one bothered to do a complete investigation before declaring they knew what happened and what the motive had been.
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  615. And she’s still absolutely gorgeous 😍
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  616. @MsLittleChristine- there are two types of coerced confessions: 1. Compliant, in which the subject makes the statement in response to a threat. 2. Internal, when stress and exhaustion compels causes them to confuse imagined thoughts with memories. Amanda’s accusation had elements of both: The police told her she’d go to prison if she didn’t tell them who’d she’d met the night Meredith was murdered. They also screamed and hit her, and kept saying Patrick’s name until, finally, she thought she remembered hearing Patrick kill Meredith from the kitchen.
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  617. @MsLittleChristine you say “they didn’t scream and hit her like it’s a fact.” The most you can say is that it’s her word against theirs. She said she was in the kitchen because she was in an internalized state, as I’ve mentioned. It’s weird how people cherry-pick her statement, saying “well-she lied about hearing Patrick, but she says she heard him in the kitchen, so she must have been in the kitchen.” The two statements she wrote after signing the first one they wrote for her demonstrate how confused she was.
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  618. @Thomas you mean, how she was Meredith’s friend, was outraged she’d been killed, and stayed in Perugia to answer police questions even though her mom told her to take the first plane for in case she herself was killed?
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  619. @Riccardo there already was a Netflix documentary
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  620. Who?
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  621. Physical threats are not protected speech.
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  622.  @johnmilton5569  it's not so strange when your family is already the focus of other people's PR
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  623. I’m actually looking forward to reading the book. I don’t expect to believe any of it. But I will certainly read it.
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  624. In other interviews, I’ve seen her get emotional when talking about the strain her ordeal put on her family.
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  625. @kaname I don’t know what “duper’s delight” is.
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  626. “Give me five minutes alone with Dick Cheney in a closet, I’ll have him confessing to the Sharon Tate murders.” - Jesse Ventura, former Navy Seal
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  627. @Point U Out I hate that she’s already married. But I can’t hate her husband. As much as I’d like to, he’s a really nice guy. And he makes her so happy.
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  628. @Nadgmz420 she mentioned that in the Whitney podcast. Her lawyers advised her that the costs of litigation would surpass any monetary award she might receives.
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  629.  @johnmilton5569  it's difficult to define any behavior as "normal." My mom yells "No!" when her favorite football team doesn't score; I would kill myself if i had to watch football. Which of us is more normal?
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  630. She’s very well-read and can speak intellectually in many subjects. She also makes hats!
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  631. @Kate Lewis my problem with that argument is that it assumes she’d be credible if she wasn’t so poised and well-spoken. As if speaking well is a sign of guilt
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  632. I live that he’s not afraid that people will perceive him as dumb for listening. Because in some situations talking is a sign of being dumb. I see so many interviewers who interrupt the subject because they have to seem like they know as much or even more than the interviewee. But most of the time, they just end up embarrassing themselves.
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  633. I’m sick of these comments where somebody says “guilty” or “she did it” with no exposition or supporting arguments
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  634. Too bad everybody forgot about Meredith and made it all about Amanda.
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  635. The accusation was obviously coerced.
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  636. And we just elected as a Vice President a former prosecutor who was part of the problem
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  637. @Mister Mooster people sometimes use humor to cope with stress or residual trauma
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  638. @Sean Calabro what about her body language suggest guilt?
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  639. @ARRom why should there be bad taste in her mouth?
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  640. 0:59 BOOKS!!!!! Now that is the REAL sexy❤️
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  641. I don’t think he ever has
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  642. How can you tell?
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  643. The Netherlands? I’ve heard their standard of living and level of satisfaction is the highest of any country in the world.
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  644. I was actually a supporter of Affirmative Action before the Biden presidency. So, I guess I do owe him one.
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  645. So many defendants can’t afford competent lawyers. Public Defenders offices should be Constitutionally entitled to the exact same amount of funding as both the police department and DAs office in the jurisdiction the operate
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  646. @BraveWanderer why?
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  647. Since nothing valuable was stolen, it was probably his intention to break in so he could rape and kill Meredith. He’d been in the house before as a guest, and probably watched it to wait until Meredith was alone so there’s be no witnesses or anybody who could help.
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  648. @banditmos her book is incredible. She describes the experience so well that her pain is palpable, as if it is leaping out of the pages.
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  649. Let me guess: your spider sense tells you
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  650. @Nick you know that the film was a fictional retelling, right?
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  651. @Yoan why?
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  652. She was wrongly convicted
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  653. @Paul Kolberg - one of my favorite stories she’s told about her experience: A year after her acquittal was reversed, her mom made her come to an Innocence Project event in Portland. She didn’t want to go because she thought she’d have to explain to everybody why she was innocence. She walked into the room, filled with about a hundred exonerees - most them old and black. Two men walked up to her immediately, and one of them said: “You don’t have to explain anything, little sister. We know, we know.”
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  654. She has more in common with Monica than with Bill. Both were mischaracterized based upon their sexual history.
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  655. May I ask how you know this?
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  656. When I saw this, I thought it was a headline from The Onion.
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  657. @Tony Welsh - it’s very subjective to decide whether bruises were caused by being attacked by multiple people or being restrained by a single person
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  658. @Spettro Family - she wrote two recantations - two! - within a day of accusing Patrick Lumumba. That alone should have given police enough reason to let him go. But they were desperate to get somebody, so they kept him in jail. Even after his alibi proved true, they wouldn’t let him go until they had Rudy Guede - that way the news of Guede’s arrest would overshadow the news of Patrick’s release. He should have sued the cops, not Amanda.
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  659.  @peterquennellnyc  Again, wrong. The first recantation, signed less than one hour after she signed the police-written statement, said she was standing by her accusation but wanted them to know she felt confused and wasn't sure. (That alone should have taken away any legal basis they had for arresting Lumumba but they arrested him anyway because they were desperate) The second recantation, written hours later in a prison cell, after the stress of the coercion had worn off, made it clear that she had imagined that she had seen Patrick at the apartment and that he had definitely NOT been there. (Still, the police held Lumumba in custody) As for "accusing" Raffaele, she put forward that point as a negative: in other words, she said the only way Raffaele could have done it was if things had happened a certain way, but she didn't think they had happened that way. Look at it this way: if I say "They only my wife could have robbed that bank is if she drove to the bank from Starbucks, robbed it, then drove back to Starbucks before I got back from the bathroom," does that mean I am refusing to me my wife's alibi? No, it means I'm saying the idea of her robbing the bank was ludicrous because I wasn't in the bathroom that long.
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  660.  @peterquennellnyc  Which memorandum is Migini referring to? If he was referring to the second one, the one she gave to Ficarra, then it makes sense that she wouldn't have been hit or given suggestive questions with regards to it.
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  661.  @peterquennellnyc  those "notes" were a list of names of men who'd visited the apartment, which the police requested from her. There's little doubt that it WAS an interrogation due to the simple fact that they were bugging her phone, which you only do with suspects. They may not have thought she was the killer yet, but they clearly suspected her of being an accomplice. Assistant Prosecutor Manuela Comodi has said it was necessary to arrest Amanda because she could have returned to the US; so the officers were probably desperate to get a statement out of her - even if it required coercive methods. Her lawyers were probably hesitant to actually accuse the police of wrongdoing since you can get sued in Italy for accusing cops of misconduct. Amanda herself was charged with criminal libel because she said in her testimony that Ficarra hit her.
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  662. The police made her accuse the guy because they initially thought he was the killer
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  663. I don’t think the police, prosecutors or media cared about either of them. They were t interested in finding out what really happened.
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  664. @Mytrip - Giuliano Mignini is also publishing a book. He snd Amanda have actually been corresponding over the last several years.
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  665. I’m reading her book right now, and I’ve never experienced so much empathy with a writer. She really puts you inside her head as if you’re living what she lived through.
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  666. @Peter Hawkins it’s been 16 years. She’s had a lot of time to process
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  667. Boring? She’s whimsical!
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  668. I wish I could read music…🥲
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  669. I’d like to meet the people who abused this dog. I wonder how long it would take me to get them to scream at a person’s touch.
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  670. Why???
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  671. I’m not a supporter of the trespassers (the most accurate term for these people) but I agree that words like that communicate the journalists feelings more than actual facts.
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  672. @NateWong remind me again how you know Amanda is guilty?
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  673. @Marco she did
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  674. I’m reading her book now. I’ve never felt such an emotional connection with an author. She is an extraordinary writer as well as an extraordinary person. I suspect her ordeal had something to do with both.
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  675. I want to see it too. Can you post the link, please?
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  676. While questioning her, the police berated Amanda for not taking Meredith’s death seriously. In the end, they were the ones who let Meredith down.
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  677. I just love her personality. She has the wisdom of a woman and the innocence of a child
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  678. I wonder how Norm would have conducted this interview
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  679. How do you know?
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  680. @kilian111 why?
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  681. Even if Biden wanted to, he can’t. After Italy’s Supreme Court overturned her conviction, it’s not legally possible for her to be reincarnated in their country.
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  682. We can still learn a bit about ourselves by watching this and talking to each other about it
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  683. OMG
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  684. I wonder if American Crime Story will ever do an installment on the Kercher-Knox case.
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  685. @Jum Broni in what capacity have you studied human behavior?
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  686. Why shouldn’t she make a film? So many have already been made without her consent: The lifetime movie, “Amanda Knox” “Angel Face” “Stillwater “
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  687. @glen Herron sorry. I misunderstood
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  688. Yeah. That girl has been through enough.
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  689. @J. Will - she doesn’t like that they used her experience as basis for a fictional story. She feels that her life has been used to tell other people’s stories since the whole thing began. Also, the film’s ending suggests that she may have been partially responsible for the crime.
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  690. I’m sorry for what Patrick Lumumba went through. But I think he was duped by the media campaign against Knox that duped everybody else. His civil suit should have been against the Perugia police officers who tricked Amanda into making her accusations
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  691. They’re both very interesting and intelligent people who were only suspected for being weirdos. Heck, I’m a weirdo; I was always a weird as a kid. But I’ve never killed anyone
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  692. @Barry how do you know?
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  693. I read her book this year. I emailed her (you can message her on her website) and she replied back. She was very sweet and receptive to my question.
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  694. @Almighty Rizzob - you’re the second person I’ve heard call her “disingenuous.” Could you please explain why you perceive her as such?
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  695. I don’t view her public speaking as exploitation. I view it as service. The selfish thing to do would be to hide and live it safe. By speaking out, she is raising awareness and giving hope to people like her.
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  696. I hope that after his acquittal, she will interview Kyle Rittenhouse on her podcast
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  697. @Tim F Foster - what knowledge do you think she has?
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  698.  @dbboykid10  you should read her book. When you look at the prosecution's case from her point of view, it doesn't seem like such a slam dunk.
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  699. @Steve Wilson - why?
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  700. If you hear the explanations they give, their behavior starts to make sense
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  701. @Boost I’m reading her book and her account of her interrogation - in which she says she was coerced into naming Mr. Lumumba - makes sense
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  702. 1:47 “Are we happy? Vincent, are we happy?” 💼 💡
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  703. @The Crazy Family in a lot of cases, innocent people don’t even go to trial. They’ll take a plea for a lesser sentence because the chances of being convicted despite reasonable doubt outweighs the certainty of a lesser sentence. In the US, it’s legal for a prosecutor to say that if the defendant doesn’t take a deal immediately, it won’t be offered after the trial starts. That’s basically the same as a police officer coercing a confession.
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  704. At the time of Meredith’s murder, Amanda was reading Harry Potter - not the Da Vinci Code
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  705. @JacksonEmory I just like books 📚
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  706. Who is Carole Baskin?
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  707. People like Amanda Knox give me hope that the world isn’t lost.
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  708. Please tell us how.
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  709. @tolpot if it had happened to me, id have broken. Suicide. This woman is an inspiration to me
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  710. I like vulgar ladies
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  711. @David Garcia I think you’re on the wrong comments section
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  712. @Les Grossman I actually had therapy for several years. I was even part of an out-patient therapy program
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  713. What do most of the Italians you’ve spoken to believe?
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  714. Ironically, humanism and the classics may be better reserved for the proletariat classes than for the elites who have the most influence over politics and the economy. The latter require practical skills to lead effectively. But the lower classes who require lower level skills may be more content (dare I say “docile”) if they are held fascinated by the liberal arts.
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  715. Her story is amazing
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  716. @MikeHunt — Which legal firm has produced this opinion?
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  717. @Darkside Rider can’t we do both?
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  718. I’d like to see a podcast where Amanda meets the West Memphis 3
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  719. I don’t agree. Every movement to end injustice is built upon empathy between the people within it. While the experiences of these two women are very different, the injustices they both suffered are clearly serving as common ground from which they can fight together.
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  720. Amanda really is a jewel
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  721. The prosecution thought they were honoring Meredith, but really they were dehumanizing her. They reduced both women to their sexuality in different ways. By reducing Meredith to this idea of the Virgin Mary, they took away her agency and hid the complexity of her character - the very thing we all have which makes us human
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  722. It was self-defense! The first guy was videotaped acting violently before he encountered Rittenhouse, the second guy attacked him with a skateboard, and the third guy pointed a gun at him. Why tf was he even charged with a crime?!
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  723. @V M because she claims to have been confused after just finding out her friend Meredith was dead?
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  724. I think Amanda’s a Trekkie. She just interviewed Brent Spiner on her podcast.
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  725. When she was studying abroad in Italy in 2007, her roommate was murdered and she and her boyfriend were incarcerated for 4 years for the murder. They were acquitted, but because Italy doesn’t have double jeopardy, they had to spend another 4 years fighting the accusations in the appeals process before being definitively acquitted
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  726. She’s fascinating
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  727. She came to the police station because her boyfriend was called in and she didn’t want to stay at his apartment alone. The police used it as an opportunity to question her.
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  728. It depresses me that she’s already married
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  729. Politics?
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  730. She’s never had trouble finding humor in her ordeal. Check out some of her more well-known tweets
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  731. @SamuelCrow what is “strangely subversive?”
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  732. The comment section on this video is one of my favorites. I’ve never had so much fun during a discussion on social media.
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  733. I honestly don’t think anyone would have even suspected Amanda if they hadn’t wanted to believe it was a sex murder. The entire profile of Amanda, in both the media and the courtroom, was confirmation bias. They selected the acts she performed following the murder which could be spun as signs of guilt, and threw out every fact which gave context to those acts.
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  734. She’s Supergirl! 🦸🏼‍♀️
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  735. TheEnnisfan “Into every generation, a Slayer is born…”
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  736. @Dongle What is that exactly? Everyone is saying she “knows something.” I have no idea what that is supposed to mean. It sounds like the government was behind it all or something.
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  737. @CJBM was she looking for money when Charlie Sheen abused her physically and verbally?
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  738. Her employers had no business regulating her behavior outside of her job. Do corporations think that they are entitled to control every aspect of people’s lives. Conservatives are opposed to the government doing that. Since the power of corporations rivals the power of the government, conservatives should be outraged by this story.
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  739. ❤️
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  740. I’ve seen many videos featuring her speak. I’ve never heard someone sound more real
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  741. The exposition is hilarious! I couldn’t stop laughing 😂😂😂
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  742. @Eric I don’t understand why you find her “unlikeable.” Honestly, it’s probably pre-conceived bias. I listen to her and I find her intelligent, thoughtful, and funny.
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  743. Meredith. The name of the woman murdered in the apartment was Meredith Kercher
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  744. Could you please explain why you believe this?
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  745. I’ll bet she stops traffic a few times a day
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  746. How can you be sure?
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  747. @Dawn Adams Yes, it was very inconsiderate of a baby to die. That wicked little monster. 😒
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  748. @Andrew B - I’m not gonna deny I have a huge crush on her. I believe her to be incredibly funny, super smart and well-read, with a heart of gold, and that she is having such a positive impact with her work. Not to mention, she is breathtakingly gorgeous.
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  749. A woman whose sexual lifestyle was used to put her in prison interviewing a woman who was sexually exploited? That is brilliant!
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  750. @Mr Canarsie - why wouldn’t you go to Italy?
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  751. Cope with what?
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  752. It’s a myth to say the burden of proof is on the prosecution. Before the trial even starts, the prosecution has already won its case, because they have created an apparently uncontradictable argument based upon how they’ve chosen to interpret the evidence. When the jury hears the arguments, they will be inclined to believe the prosecutor, so for all practical purposes, the burden of proof is on the defense.
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  753. @Stefano - on Whitney’s podcast, she said that when she came home, her family welcomed her with a cake. Someone told Amanda “Cut the cake!” And she put her hand on her hip and said “Are you SURE?”
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  754. @Laura.K no, Amanda Knox was the one doing the interview.
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  755. First off, you should never give someone a microphone if they are drunk. Second, it doesn’t help a person to get votes when you parody them.
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  756. I think she looked fine in the bathroom. The snow probably added to much moisture.
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  757. Whole thing looks staged.
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  758. I read her book a couple of months ago. I’m still dealing with the emotional impact it had on me.
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  759. @Bernard could you please explain?
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  760. @jmowens69 during the interview?
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  761. @ThomSmith you should watch The Scarlet Letter Reports. While interviewing women who have been publicly shamed and humiliated, you can see real compassion in her face
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  762. I took Chinese for two years, but even at my best I don’t think I could have ordered take out.
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  763. It could be an effect of her recovery from trauma. Humor is one method of coping with post traumatic stress
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  764. @Potomac what do you think it is?
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  765. If you are coerced into making an accusation, then you didn’t make the accusation. The person who coerced you made it.
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  766. @Mike Hunt - what does “we promise” mean?
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  767. @Mike Hunt are you threatening her?
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  768. If you expect someone to look like a psychopath, that’s what they’ll look like. If she had never been accused of murder, would people look at her and see psychopathic behavior?
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  769. Why do you think so?
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  770. The guy had played basketball in school
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  771. I love every video Amanda Knox is in
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  772. When two women share an apartment and one of them sees blood in the bathroom, the chances usually are that it’s menstrual blood. No one really expects to find a corpse lying in there house, so it’s not exactly the first thing that would come to mind.
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  773. Why?
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  774. Because she now knows who did it. She is speaking based on what she learned after the fact
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  775. @7620313 in her book, she gives a detailed description of how the police convinced her - through psychological intimidation, threat of jail time, leading questions - that she witnesses Patrick Lumumba kill Meredith Kercher. Within 24 hours of doing so, she wrote a handwritten statement recanting her accusation.
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  776. I think most interviews should be open-ended, letting the subject testify in the narrative. The interviewer should ask spontaneous questions when something requires clarification
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  777. @DennisWells - I’d like to see a film directed by Steven Spielberg, about the relationship between RFK and LBJ, with Bale playing RFK and Lewis playing LBJ
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  778. @Rob Lyons She used most of the $4 million from her book deal to pay legal fees
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  779. The best!
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  780. I hear she’s planning to have her book, “Waiting to be Heard” made into a feature film
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  781.  @alabama.worley  she's decided to use her story to raise awareness about wrongful convictions - which are a huge problem in the United States. When people hear her story, they'd be less inclined to think a person could never be wrongly accused of a crime
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  782. @AlabamaWorley I’m currently reading a book on the Alfred Dreyfus case. When you see how George’s Picquart - the man who exonerated Dreyfus - deconstructed each point of the prosecution’s case, it’s easy to understand how an overwhelmingly convincing case can be built up using speculation and confirmation bias. The investigators had already decided Dreyfus was guilty because, as a Jew, he would supposedly lack loyalty to any country; then they allowed that bias to influence how they interpreted every fact they encountered. The case they built actually looked air-tight. Likewise, the Perugia authorities saw Amanda and Raffaele kissing, thought they were sociopaths with no empathy for a murdered woman, and saw every fact they found in that context. It was only when people began looking at the evidence from multiple viewpoints that the truth became clear - in both cases.
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  783. @Jim why is it rare?
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  784. What about her strikes you as guilty?
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  785. How did you meet Meredith?
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  786. @DavidIsaacRussell yeah, he’d be great at stand up. His performance in court was a joke
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  787. Because, my friend, that is as it should be 😌
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  788. Amanda actually posted a picture of herself against a photo of Barrett because people were saying they looked alike
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  789. What’s gross?
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  790. @AmsterdamHeavy why?
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  791. It makes her look like a person wearing a head band. That’s it.
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  792. @Lorelei why do you say so?
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  793. I guess police have no reason to preserve a crime scene when they think they e already solved the case without having needed evidence
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  794. She was imprisoned for 4 years. 2 years awaiting trial, 2 more after conviction
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  795. How do you know?
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  796. @pancakesandtea she was coerced into accusing him by the police. They assumed he did it based on a text she’d sent him, then they bullied her into saying he saw him killing Meredith.
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  797. 😇 bell’angelo
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  798. Gone Girl was partially inspired by the mass hysteria that takes control of high profile murder cases. The author specifically had the Laci Peterson murder in mind while writing it.
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  799. @Drew Jones why does she “seem” guilty?
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  800. @Drew how often is your intuition correct?
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  801. There was one where a female video game programmer was targeted by misogynistic game enthusiasts. Do you think they were trying to reference Anita’s story?
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  802. John Douglas, one of the pioneers of the FBI’s profiling program, has actually been quoted as saying he has seen rabbits more violent than Amanda.
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  803. @paul healy what do you think she’s hiding?
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  804. Yeah. Women who help give voice to abuse victims, after have suffered years of victimization themselves, are such monsters. 🙄
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  805. Why do you say that?
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  806. Why do you think so?
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  807. Involved in what way? Did she kill Meredith? Did she hold her down? Or did she just stand by and watch?
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  808. What the Mouse Trap Effect?
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  809. Nice girl. Tried to help the police. Must spend her whole life fighting the lies still being told about her.
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  810. Amanda, I hate that people think you should just not appear in public. Seeing you out in the world, speaking your truth is a blessing to the world. I love you ❤️
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  811. @Matt-Wars Supreme why do you think so?
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  812.  @matt-warssupreme6977  First of all, could you message me with some winning lottery numbers? I could use you gut feeling on that. Second, what kind of training do you have in using a person's body language to determine guilt? And while we're at it, how is body "language" even a reliable indicator or guilt? Lastly, she was coerced into accusing Patrick Lumumba. There's circumstantial evidence: (1) the police have admitted they thought she was going to leave Italy with her mother and were justified in having her detained to prevent it, and (2) they didn't tape the interrogation, despite being required to tape interrogations of suspects, which she was because they were tapping her phone. In conclusion, they planned to coerce her beforehand because they were desperate and agreed to lie to cover it up.
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  813.  @matt-warssupreme6977  You're right, I was wrong and I apologize for being rude. That being said, how can body language ever be a reliable indicator of guilt or falsehood? Is there any gesture, posture or tic that a person can only display while lying and never when telling the truth? Furthermore, why did the police not tape a conversation which they had to have expected to be decisive in identifying the murderer?
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  814. Yeahhh???
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  815. He had a history of break-ins and robbed a law office. He had been in the apartment as a guest of the men who lived downstairs. He probably thought no one was home, broke in to steal some stuff, found Meredith, and decided to rape her. I don’t know if he decided to kill her before or after the rape, but I think it was an impulsive decision. He was probably in shock after what he’d done and just went to the bathroom.
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  816. @Luca Postorino - in you find the scenario I’ve described improbable, you’re more than welcome to point out its flaws
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  817.  @alabama.worley  That's what you are asserting actually - that Amanda, having no history of violence, convinced two men she'd known for only few days to hold a woman down while she killed her. Guede, on the other hand, had a history of burglary, and had only recently been arrested for attacking a woman.
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  818. @Nataly I believe Amanda. But I don’t think we should just tell people who disagree with us to “shut up”
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  819. ❤️
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  820. I’d ask her to marry me if she was single
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  821. @pistol because she’s not a killer
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  822. I hope she gets a chance to meet them one day. I know Meredith’s father sadly passed. But I’m hoping her surviving family with meet with Amanda and maybe find some closure.
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  823. @Alabama Worley - usually when one of the parties to a conspiracy is caught, they will incriminate their accomplice to get less time. They know the other person will tell a different story, but expect the police to believe the person who flipped first. And as I said, knox had a better chance of getting a deal if she implicated Guede.
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  824. I’ll give the Italians this - their appeals process is much fairer than ours
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  825. @Mil Pow- I think she was trying to describe the reality of the situation
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  826. @Mil Pow - no. I mean she meant to say that it has BECOME reporters’ duty to stick to their original stories. It is an effect of the 24 hour news cycle, that you have to get the story fast and stick to it in order to preserve credibility. She’s not defending the journalists; she’s just describing their motivations.
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  827. @Mil Pow- consider her statement in context. She commiserated with Amanda in this interview, acknowledging the injustice done to her. As you said, she explains the journalists motives - but explaining is not the equivalent of excusing. If I say Rudy Guede raped Meredith because rapists seek validation through the humiliation of another - am I saying Guede had a good reason for his actions?
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  828.  @GARYBRUNDAGEMUSIC  The media has a great deal of influence over how people perceive reality. When all the networks and newspapers report from a perspective of groupthink, no one thinks to question their narrative because there's no counternarrative. The phenomenon is especially prevalent when emotion plays a role. Nothing plays to people's emotions more than sex. When the media portrays someone in terms their sexual history, you have emotion and prejudice working against reason.
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  829. @SydneyMiller it needs new management. Hey, maybe they can put Alexandra in charge! 😀
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  830. If he has this much trouble functioning in his first term, how is he gonna do the job in a second term?
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  831. @G.B. I’m fairly certain I’d have killed myself after the first conviction. I can’t understand how anyone can be as strong as she is
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  832. Amanda was a victim and wouldn’t even be in the public eye if she hadn’t been wrongly accused. She only write a book because she had to pay her legal fees.
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  833. @mallow what makes you say that?
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  834. @MattRutledge - I agree with every you’ve said. I just dont see what any of it has to do with Amanda Knox.
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  835. @DianaMincher Rudy was arrested days before Meredith’s murder. For reasons which are still unclear, the police did not press charges or hold him in custody.
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  836. I’m sorry to hear that
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  837. @RobertNeighbors no. DNA evidence was retested
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  838. Didn’t you see the part at the end of the video?
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  839. “To heal, you have to know the extent of the wound.” They should give the guy who wrote that line more access.
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  840. It wasn’t the bar owner (the police coerced her into accusing him). It was a transient named Rudy Guede who had a history of break-ins.
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  841. Or a sign of being nervous
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  842. Z
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  843. I love that movie
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  844. I see no guilt on her face.
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  845. In 2007, she needed an interpreter. By the time of her trial in 2009 she gave her testimony in near-perfect Italian. That’s what happens when you’re locked up with Italians.
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  846. @DianaMincher it’s a big step from being “excluded socially” to committing murder. The prosecution also argued that Amanda resented Meredith for being sexually abstinent. This is basically a form of slut shaming directed towards Amanda
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  847. Why do you require help?
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  848. She has beautiful scars
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  849. 🦅🦅🦅???
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  850. That was pretty much the title of the New York Times story that came out last week.
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  851. Why not?
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  852. @Mag Pie that is the definition of “stabbing,” to plunge a knife, or other sharp object, into a solid surface
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  853. I love her writing. Not just her book, but the articles she wrote for various publications.
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  854. I want her to write another book. I’m reading her memoir right now, it’s the best book I’ve read this year
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  855. It’s probably like when corporations declare bankruptcy
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  856. Unfortunately her parents will never enjoy the satisfaction of closure. Her siblings are still alive. It’s my hope that they might meet with Amanda and believe her.
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  857. Ron Goldman was in many ways the Meredith Kercher of the OJ Simpson case. He just had no place in the media’s narrative, so people pretended he never existed.
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  858. @Maurice it’s probably impossible for her to just put it behind her. For eight years - four of which were spent in prison - this case was her life. She was locked up, lied to, bullied, humiliated, told by strangers who she was and all the while juggling to guilt of what her family was sacrificing to try to get her out. She didn’t use this as an excuse to get famous. It was pounded onto her until it left an indelible mark
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  859. @Mateusz isn’t Patrick Lumumba living in Poland now?
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  860. I’m sorry for the Kerchers. But Amanda is t disrespecting them by living her life.
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  861. I guess I have
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  862. Involved how? As an accomplice? As a witness?
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  863. Then in what way was she an accomplice? Did she hold the weapon? Did she help restrain Meredith? Was she the lookout?
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  864. Why do I feel a Cormac McCarthy vibe?
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  865. @Don what makes it obvious?
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  866. Why do you think so?
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  867. @TomGraham - Diana and I have never seen eye-to-eye. But what kind of influence do you think she has to alter that situation?
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  868. @Mike especially if the person is sleep deprived and being subjected to sensory overload (in Amanda’s case, there was constant nonstop yelling by her interrogators
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  869. Why do you think so?
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  870. @OrthodoxAtheist - I’m not an expert in international law, but I’d think that during a time of war, the assassination of enemy commanders is justified. Soleiman ordered a paramilitary assault on our embassy in Baghdad. That is an act of war. Killing him was a proportional response which served to deter similar attacks on our soldiers and citizens.
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  871. In the Netflix documentary, one of her Italian prosecutors said it was funny to hear Americans criticize their legal system. The courthouse in which Amanda was tried, he said, once contained the first legal college in Europe. In America, at the same time, people were supposedly painting in caves.
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  872. I want to see them have a two hour discussion about their favorite books!
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  873. I’d like to see Amanda interview Marcia Clark. That’d be amazing.
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  874. @Michelle Belle - why do you think so?
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  875. American officers during the Iraq War were assigned and told to read copies of “The Seven Pillars of Wisdom” by their commanders.
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  876. @Caleb Ray she has a husband. And I think she’s pregnant right now
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  877. What do the two have to do with each other?
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  878. It’s ok to find the word “slut” inappropriate. But these women didn’t introduce that word into the dialogue. If they hadn’t been called it already, they wouldn’t have had to reappropriate it. When someone uses language to hurt you, you have the right to take away its ability to cause you harm.❤️
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  879. @Keep after she was released, her parents were completely bankrupt
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  880. @Patrick Ryan - so, we should assume all normal looking people are psychopaths? Wait a minute! I thought Amanda had to be guilty because she didn’t look normal, because she was weird!
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  881.  @PatrickRyan147  You drove a cab for ten years and half the people you drove were psychopaths... So not only do you use residents on one city as a representative sample of the entire planet, you also think you can accurately diagnose a person's mental state during a single encounter.
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  882. How do you know?
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  883. Which questions is she beating around?
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  884. @Annie Rides Again - God Bless You for saying the right thing ❤️
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  885. I believe you’re thinking of Amanda Bynes
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  886. @FrankVaughn what about this interview is “woke?”
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  887. I just ordered the book of poems she wrote with her husband Chris, “The Cardio Tesseract”
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  888. Go to the video section of her Instagram account. There’s a video of her doing cartwheels, calling it “typical Knox behavior”
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  889. Journalists shouldn’t base their reporting on what people want to hear. They should base it on what people NEED to hear.
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  890. Why do you say so?
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  891. Involved in what way?
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  892. @benru112 I don’t think she’s a killer. And I think that talking about her story raises awareness about police and prosecutorial misconduct.
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  893. I hope she does more podcasts. I love how well spoken she is snd how insightful she can be regarding societal issues.
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  894. She’s beautiful.
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  895. How do you know?
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  896. @GregF then by that standard, a person has to be stupid to be wrongly convicted of a crime
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  897. @Youisflicks why do you believe that?
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  898. I think she’s beautiful
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  899. @bobby wright- did the two of you ever exchange words?
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  900. I actually met her a couple month ago and we have stayed in touch. She is just wonderful, empathetic and open-minded. Anybody would be happy being around her.
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