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Yep, i was really never interested in having children either. Im almost a hardcore realist and i see the world through this lense. Thats why i cant take this whole „have children, a beautiful big family“ serious. It looks so boring to me. In the end, people have children either because they want a purpose in life, so that they dont end up lonely later on, or because they think thats just what they gotta do. I couldnt care less, i dont mind being alone at all, i actually cherish solitude, for the most part. My children would just be a few more generic people that i would be tied to hormonally. Except for my parents, noone seems really special. They are all just normal people living their life’s. Whenever i see a young family with kids, just feel nothing about it. There arent feelings like „i want that too…“ it doesnt appeal to me at all. And all that legacy bullshit that people talk about makes it only more ridiculous.
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@mn5499 theres a misunderstanding here. When i said you are „much of a finished product“ i meant, that your genes are already determined, and much of your fundamental developement already has taken place. And that will already determine ALOT. Thats why its called genes and environment, or nature and nurture. If you leave one out, confusion arises. I mean, its already certain who your parents are before you were born, so not only will you have a mix of their genes that you cant control, youre also not in control of their parenting style once you enter the world. So yeah, as soon as your parents decide to get you, and you win that sp*rm race, your „fate“ is kind of decided, because nothing of it is in your control while much of it will define you as a person later on. Everything else will fall into place after that. But the most important stage in child development is probably in the womb.
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@ evidence? You dont have evidence haha thats what you tell yourself so you can sleep at night.
You are the product of your biology and your whole environment. Much of your development takes place in the womb and by the time youre born, alot of your characteristics are already set. Youre so much of a finished product right there and then. You didnt choose your personality. Parents, friends, habits. It unfolded. The type of guy your are and the decisions you make are just the product of everything that came before, including randomness in itself, because do you want to tell me you control the randomness? If you plan ahead of for the future, youre doing so under the influence of everything what you are and what you know. Youre not making a original random choice. It makes exactly sense. You didnt ask yourself „what made me the type of guy to behave like this and that?“ youre assuming these sre original patterns. They are far far away from that.
If you were born as the austrian Mustache man, same genetics, same timeline, same upbringing, wouldnt you start the second world war? Would you have decided that „no this isnt good, i must be a better person!“. You would have done EXACTLY like him because he is the exact product of his genetics and environment. Him doing what he did was just a logical consequence of everything that influenced him into becoming that guy.
Your biology is constantly reacting to the outside world. What you decide to write here isnt your choice. There is an exact logical reason, with endless micro factors, why you choose to write what you write, and i do too.
Youre making these weird loops about „quantum randomness“ but its useless, its just another factor. It doesnt matter if randomness exists, your choices and habits are still 100% under influence of your biology and everything that happens/happened around you and happened around you, including a randomness factor, that youre absolutely 0% in control of. Have a nice day
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@ you already proofed yourself wrong :“ all you need is to control wether youre moved by your desires“. I dont see how you dont get this. You CANT control that. Either you sre like that or you arent. Will and desire are the same thing. Your will is ALREADY programmed. Your will right now is a product, you didnt choose it.The difference between the guy that does the right thing and the guy that doesnt is, that the first guy has the capacity and the other doesnt. What made you the guy that can control his urges? Right, your genetics and environment. And what you miss is, if you go against a desire, you have an even stronger desire in the opposite direction.
You CANT choose your desire. You will always have a desire that you follow. If your desire to be slim is big enough, it will beat the desire for unhealthy food. Youre not in control.
Who said that humans are logical beings? Humans always choose the wrong thing against logic because we cant always be logical. You do that all the time too. See? Youre projecting your thinking onto other people. This is the big problem. You lack creativity and depth to grasp this.
Your genetics and environment shaped how you think, RIGHT now. You could never ever expect from another person to see it that way too, because they are a completely different product.
If logical reason and „just go against your desires bro“ are a thing for you, then thats who you are, but you didnt choose that. You are like that by luck.
Stress tolerance, pain resistance, testosterone, IQ and sooo many other things are mostly genetics. You already have a personality by the time you are born, and everything else gets built ontop of that.
You havent understood the concept and it is not your fault.
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@ what??? How dont you understand this? You DONT choose your actions because you DIDNT choose to be the guy that takes the action. Your brain has already formulated the decision for you, but since we have a sense of self, we percieve the action as our own will, but its not. Its just your interface, showing you what is being decided for you. Your reaction to your thoughts and desires, are again just the next logical new thought, that wasnt produced willingly by you.
Read CAREFULLY: you DONT choose how much „willpower“ you have to ignore your desires and just follow through. This is a character trait that was decades in the making. You didnt produce your discipline. It is the result of your evolution, the result of your genetics reacting to the outer world, in every second. Youre ALWAYS being influenced, even right now, like me.
Youre not able to peel that layer right now. You dont think far enough.
And again when youre acting against ONE desire, youre acting in favor of a STRONGER desire, that you also cant control. I really cant make it more obvious to you. You DONT choose how much determination you have to do „the right thing“ , youre actions are always a logical consequence of that what came before and that ultimately put you in the place you are right now. Youre playing yourself right now. You are merely observing how you choose. Man, youre not there yet and thats ok, but i just wanna tell you, sam harris would shred you into pieces in this argument because your arguments are beginner level when it comes to this stuff. Did you really think i didnt think like you in the past? Did you really think that i havent gone through this argument myself? „Oh if i dont have free will why can i then decide to go to the gym even if i dont want to?“ youre so naive
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Yep, people who dont grasp the weight of what he is saying here might not be able to think deep enough, there might be a barrier. Theres a serious level of contemplating that is needed here. People think way too simplistic and short sighted about this. In the end, youll always come to the same conclusion: you, your decisions, preferences, characteristics, actions, just everything is a product. You are the product. And the producer is your biology and the environment. Your life is being unfolded. Everything that happens to you is a logical step, wich in turn leads again to another unfolding in the future. Its so obvious, i could not unsee it at this point
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