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in 1950, Zhou Enlai asked India ambassador to China to tell US, do not pass 38 degree line, or China would take action, US did not listen, they marched all the way to the border of China, and China sent army in October of 1950, by January 1951, in 3 months of time, PLA kicked whole US army out of North Korea and kept them on the other side for 72 years. so later in Vietnam Zhou told US again, do not across 17 degree line, this time US listened, none US army passed the line, only jet went to north vietnam to drop bombs.
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Putin just had a phone conversation with Xi, they support each other, Putin firmly support China on TW issue, with the promise, China will take action on TW soon, with this, Russia will get less pressure from US and Europe. it is mutual benefit for both countries!
if US got involved with too much in TW, then Russia will take the chance to take more former Soviet Union countries, US cannot afford that. currently in Russian government someone has already suggested that Russia should take the former Soviet Union countries back such as Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia
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Right after founding PRC, in October 1949, Mao visited Soviet Union to meet with Stalin, Stalin told Mao, China should send army into Tibet at the earliest time possible, Mao did not even wait until he came back to China but in Moscow he telegramed Deng Xiao Ping to send PLA into Tibet ASAP, interestingly, Nehru asked his former boss British what to do with China sending army into Tibet, British told Nehru, in current world, there is not a single country can stop China sending army into Tibet, certainly not India.
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72 years ago, in Korea War, China's PM Zhou Enlai, let India ambassador to forward China's position to US, if US army pass 38 degree line, China would take action, US got the message, but did not care, US army with 15 countries formed UN force passed the 38 degree line into North Korea and all the way to near China border, China sent PLA to enter the war, crossed the YaLu river, which is the border between China and Korea, on late October of 1950, in 3 months time, by January of 1951, kicked US army and UN force completely out of North Korea and liberated Soul in South Korea.
Later in Vietnam war, Zhou Enlai told US, if US army pass 17 degree line, China would take action, this time US listened, its army never crossed it, but they just sent airforce to bomb the north Vietnam, we keep our promise, same to TW issue.
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Soviet Union, and now Russia, if they trust you, they would help you truly, as Soviet Union helped China in 50s and 60s in last century, we Chinese would always remember and grateful, one example is Mig 21 production line, that was Soviet Union prepared for China, however, in 1960s, the relationship deteriorated, so Soviet Union sent it to India, and India is using it till today, and tested fantastic tea, now Russia and China once again becomes very good friends, so glad of it.
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we are very different people, to foreign bully, we fight, although some time in history we were defeated, however, we fought, unlike you, a single British company could colonize you for 300 years. We were bullied, invaded by all kinds of foreign powers, we fought, after CCP took the power, not a single foreign power could invaded China again, instead, we kicked the number 1 superpower US out of north Korea in just 3 months time in Korean war.
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China is in win win win position in Myanmar, China has good relationship with current military government which promise to work on all BRI projects in Myanmar, including a railway from China to a port be building to Indian ocean in Bay of Bengal, 2nd win is with The National Unity Government, which just published its Position on China which said, "Myanmar regards the People’s Republic of China as a specifically important country, not only for close, profound historical ties between the two countries but also for China’s status as a global superpower: and also promised China to finish all the BRI project, 3rd win is with rebel army in the north, the army are actually formed by Han Chinese live in Myanmar, now they won the battle by controlling the area
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we the people of PRC will always remember and grateful to the help we got from Soviet Union, Soviet Union supported China with 156 whole sets industry complexes, covers all areas, which is the whole basics for modern industrialization for China, later, due to the argument btw CCP and SCP, the support stopped, Soviet Union had already prepared the second phase support, due to the deterioration of the relationship, Soviet Union sent them to India, that is where some India's steel factories, and the production line of Mig 21 came from.
Indians, ask yourselves a question, what real thing you got from US to you as you are the member of quad and so called democratic countries??? only sell you some weapons for making money for US. hah :)
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In 1950, the US occupied the capital of the North Korea Pingrang, and pushed its army to the area near the border of China, and Kim Zheng-un's grandpa President of North Korea , Kim Ri Cheng, fled to a wasted coal mine near China border, hid in a tunnel, wrote letter to Mao of China, pleaded China to send army to save him. China sent army in late October of 1950, by January of 1951, in 3 months of time, after 3 major battles, pushed all UN force lead by the US army to the south of 38 parallel line
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Nehru chose to fight China, Modi, although in the different party, chose the same, this kind confrontation forced India spend too much energy and resources and money on unnecessary wasting of money in buying totally useless expensive weapons, with less money for R&D and reinvestment into the industrialization of the country. Due to capability of industrial production, although India is so anti China under Modi, India spend so much money importing huge amount of China's industry products, this caused 2 things, to make China industry better, to make India industry even weaker, this is a bad circle, seems with time this situation is getting worse for India, reflected the trade with China reaching record high and with deficit in trading with China getting record high, calling boycott China is not working, GOI itself place orders to China itself.
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US went on a wrong path after victory of WWII, that is enforce its own value and ideology to other countries, most of time with wars , it was not Lincoln's US, Lincoln once relied to Karl Marx for his congratulation on Lincoln won the civil war, Lincoln said, US wants to do its own things well, to set up an example to the world. that is the real strong US should be, make US the best country inside it own border first, to show how wonderful it is, so other country would follow. Today's US is totally changed from Lincoln time.
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Yuanwang ships are China's satellite tracking ships, since the earth is round, so to track satellite or space rocket or space station, one place (such as India only has one ground station) is not enough, you need at 3 around the world, it is called deep space net work, since US has military bases all over the world, so for US it has no problem to build station anywhere in the world, China at the beginning use Yuanwang ships to different places around the world in ocean to track satellite. Since India has only one, so all India's deep space program need NASA's help, such the one to the mars and to the moon, all operated by NASA for navigation and instructions, however, India never mentioned it to show as India did all by itself, this is a nation without any..............
On July 24 2022, China launched a module to China's space station, Yuanwang was in Indian ocean for this work, and after that just get to Sri Lanka to get supplies, .....do not make it such a big deal, you are nothing to us, we do not need "spy" you from there. haha :)
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from the US leaked document, China has tested a new hypersonic missile, DF 27, with range over 7000-8000 km. Hypersonic missile cannot be intercepted in any current anti ballistic systems, including S400
so now China has 5 kinds of hypersonic missiles, and all with anti ship (meaning, to the moving target, such as air craft carrriers ) capability, they are DF 17, range 1500 km, DF 21D, range 2500 km , DF 26, range 3500 km, YJ 21 antiship hypersonic missile, range 2000 km and DF 27, range 7000-8000 km.
Delhi is 400 km from China border, for our hypersonic missile, it will take about 3 min to bomb 7, Lok Kalyan Marg into dust
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let me explain why we build the bridge, In China side we have a strategic road called G 219, which is why China fought India in 1962 to get Aksai chin back to China, G219 is a major reason, since it is the road connect Xinjiang and Tibet, G 219 pass right at the east bank of Pangong Lake, from there the paved road to the finger regions, and from the bridge build, PLA heavy tanks, such T99A and T96B can get to the area near Chushul and Rezang La quickly.
then next stop will be Leh, ....................then Delhi.
sure you can use Brahoms to it, it does not matter, China and repair it in just 2 hours, the war is not as you think, since the bridge is inside China, so you have no reason to attack it first ,(we wish you do, so we have a better reason to start the full out war with India), so we can prepare the war, by sending all the tanks and other things pass the bridge to south bank of Pangong tso, once the war started, it is OK, we are prepared for your attack on the bridge, it does not matter very much already, since we are on our way to Leh. haha :))
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In 1950s, when Nehru was busy in playing as leader of non-alliances. Mao decided China go with "2 Dans and 1 Xing" project, which 2 Dans, means, Nuclear Bomb and ICBM, and 1 Xing means Space program. In 1964, China tested successfully first nuclear bomb, in 1970, China launched first satellite, in 1970s to early 1980s China put DF4 missile with nuclear warhead into service, DF4 can reach Moscow, it is about the same level as Agni 5 which India is still testing today.
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to be fair, Congress was much better, first, they occupied 35000 sq km Aksai chin and 90000 sq km South Tibet in 1950s, which British did not even get, so even Nehru lost 35000 Aksai chin in 1962 , but still got 90000 sq km South Tibet for India till today, what BJP got from China ?? as nothing, till now, Indian army lost almost all patrol points north of Pangong Lake, and PLA has rejected the requests of India to restore the status before April 2020, and India BJP government cannot do a thing about it.
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Taiwan, a province of China, has been a part of China for a long time, at least much longer than the country called US formed by Europeans who grabbed native Americans land. KMD, the ruler of the so called "first democracy of Asia" and the "world largest democracy" at the time (which was much earlier than India for at least 35 year, India just copied the name) called Republic of China, the one that let China suffered so much before WWII and let Nanking happened, totally corrupted government, was overthrown by CCP led majority of Chinese people (this is real meaning of democracy"), and kicked KMD to Taiwan, later US sent the 7th fleet into Taiwan strait to prevent PLA to liberate Taiwan. Therefore, it is totally and completely a matter of China's internal affair, and is an unfinished China's civil war, it is totally none of the fking business of any other country, certainly no US , nor India's
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Modi dared not even to mention China's name. Compared to Nehru's government, current government now are cowards. In 1962, Nehru ordered the Indian army to "kick the Chinese out," with full support from his Defense Minister V. K. Krishna Menon and his army, led by Lieutenant General Brij Mohan Kaul, the commander of the 4th army on the front line. They displayed remarkable bravery, fighting despite the odds, and their heroic actions will be remembered. However, today, facing China in 2020, Modi didn't even dare to mention China's name, let alone order the army to engage in combat. The army chief instructed the front line not to fire a single shot and to lower the artillery barrels facing China, indicating that India did not want to engage in hostilities.
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@moviehotshots2698 you ever wonder why all the neighboring countries harbor animosity towards you? Why do they choose China over you? If just one country despises you, it could be their issue, but when all your neighbors do, then it's undoubtedly your problem. Don't point fingers at others.
Pakistan, no need to elaborate. You've occupied the entirety of Kashmir, where the people desired to be with Pakistan, not you. You merely used a puppet head of Kashmir to deploy your army and occupy it. China, no need to mention, you've illegally seized South Tibet, which even your former colonial masters didn't dare to touch. Nepal? You still hold onto its land, refusing to return it. In 2015, just because you didn't approve of its election, you sanctioned Nepal, withholding essential supplies. It was China that immediately stepped in to help. Sri Lanka, no need to delve deeper. Modi today still claims a Sri Lankan island belongs to India, how can Sri Lanka not hate you?? . You control Bhutan's foreign affairs. Your army has k illed numerous Bangladeshis at the border. You bully Maldives, which is why they've kicked you out. Don't blame others, it's solely your doing
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It is OK for Indians to have their Hinduism, no matter how absurd this religion is, you like it, it is ok, it is your country, however, Hindus do not understand, you should respect all other religions, and they are on equal status as those with Hinduism, if you do not understand this or do not accept this, you will be in trouble as it is happening now in Manipur and will happen in more places in India.
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rupee is racing against the founding year of this country, when this country got independent, 1 rupee was $1, after 75 year, now 76.87 rupee to a $1. congratulations, Rupee is winning the race :)
RMB is losing, on the other hand, 30 years ago, 8.3 Yuan to a $1, now, 6.37 Yuan to $1.
so vote BJP again, haha :)) it will make sure rupee will win more, 😁😁😁
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1 Indian needs 8 PLA??total bullshxt! In 1962, Indian army 7th Brigade with HQ and 6 battalions, total about 7000, China PLA with 10300, total annihilated 7th Brigade in just 2 days, and captured Brigadier BG John Dalvi. The 7th Brigade was disbanded after the war. This battle hardened Indian army unit fought extensively in WWII, in Sudan, Cyprus, Tunisia, Italy, and Greece. PLA sent it into its final destination : grave.
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Since World War II, and especially after 1990-1991, the U.S. has faced no real military adversaries. It has primarily engaged in conflicts with countries like Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria. As a result, the U.S. military has developed weapon systems suited to these types of conflicts, not for fighting another superpower—until now. Meanwhile, China has always focused on preparing for combat against the world's strongest powers. With its hypersonic anti-ship missiles specifically designed for this purpose, the U.S.'s most relied-upon asset, its super aircraft carriers, are now essentially giant moving targets, ineffective in a fight against China. Without these carriers, the U.S. has very limited means to fight China in a conventional war near Chinese territory.
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10 years ago, China was holding over $3 trillion in US debt, now this amount is less than $1 trillion, for 10 yrs, the money transferred from the US into BRI with $1.4 trillion, with this move, not only found a way to distribute risk of money reserve in a single potential enemy's basket, but also provided huge market for China's over capacity in production and labor, at the same time benefited the BRI countries in their urgently need infrastructure development and employment, with BRI the countries involved, according to the world bank, will promote their trade and GDP growth up to 4%
Italy's move mainly due to its internal political issue, wont affect much for BRI in total over 160 countries.
India can watch for free and cry unlimited.
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instead work with Russians for Su-57, India chose to buy Rafale with $250 million each, at the same time, China bought 24 Su-35, with only $80 million each, no need to have 3 Su-35 to beat a Rafale, at the same time, with the deal, Russia provided with 200 AL 41 engine, with max power of 177 kn. compare to Rafale's Snecma M88 73 kn. (only little better than India Kevari 71 kn, and worse then GE 404 India used in Tejas)
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first of all, we never said, other countries cannot go through Taiwan strait, In peace time, sure any country, not just US, even India's warships can go through Taiwan strait, however, in war, if US trying to use Taiwan strait to stop PLA to land on Taiwan, then it is not possible, the strait is about 200 km wide, China antiship missiles all with range more than 600 km, completely covered Taiwan strait.
China has 12 nm territorial water, as long as other country's warship not entering it without permission, everything is fine. No need to show off as how brave it is go through Taiwan strait, China never said other countries cannot go through it.
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hahha , China will not go, Turkey not go,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, now G20 become G10?? hahah :))
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The best chance for India was to the chance to work with Russia for Su 57, however, as always in the past, India paid $300 million as deposit then withdrawn from it, lost the chance to work with a stealthy fighter and chance to get Russian AL 41 engine (max power 141 kn), turned to France to buy with $250 million each for Rafale which is not stealthy, China, on the other hand, bought 24 Su 35, came with 200 AL 41 engine, cost only 1/3 of Rafale with $80 million each, at the same time with the extra AL 41 engine to be used and tested in J20, J10c, J16, J11B J 35 and J15
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China's GDP is 5.35 times more than India, with defense budget 3 times of India, but we spend our money carefully, we make most of the weapons by ourselves, India, instead, spend money with 3-5 times more , for example, the US's MQ-9 cost $32 million, to sell to India for $100 million each. China can make the same kind of drone for less than $10 million, so the difference is already 10 times, considering China's defense budget is 3 times of India, therefore for each MQ-9 like drone India has, China can provide 30 of them, the same ratio remains for all other weapons.
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in 1962, we built a lots POW camps in Tibet, for 4000 Indian soldiers captured, at the time , it was very difficult to transport food to the there, so PLA soldiers saved their own food for the captured Indian soldiers, lots of hard work, so this time, we do not take any POWs, save time, save money, 😁😁😁 true story.
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for India neighbors, 1. Maldaves, not need to say any more. 2. Pakistan, well, not either, 3. Bangladesh, now with Bangladesh Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina elected again, Hindus in there is scared they will be kicked out. 4. Sri Lanka, despite Indian's repeated debt trap warning, Sri Lanka just signed treaty for $4.5 billion to build a new oil refinery by China 5. Myanmar, the current military government promised China to fulfill all BRI projects in Myanmar, including building a railway from China to the coast of Indian ocean, to a port, the The National Unity Government of Myanmar issued a statement in the new year, "Myanmar regards the People’s Republic of China as a specifically important country, not only for close, profound historical ties between the two countries but also for China’s status as a global superpower. "6. Nepal is still seeking to get territory back occupied by India. 7. Bhutan just deny what India claim that China occupied Bhutan territory built new towns.
India is completely surrounded, has no ally, not a single friend in the world.
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FYI, we have tested twice, China's space vehicle consists of 2 parts, first stage is by vertical lift off, with the space ship (or missile) on it, reach the sub space, about 200 km above the earth, the space ship (or a missile) engine started to push into space, the first stage then glide back to earth land in any airport runway, the space ship get into space orbit , then come back to earth landed in any airport, if for a missile, then it will hit the target anywhere in the world, Both first and second stages have been tested and succeeded. The space vehicle for both can be used repeatedly (of course except missiles). China is far ahead US and Russia in this, no need to mention India, hahah :))
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UK was not like this, it was the first western country officially recognize CCP China, "6 January 1950 – The United Kingdom recognises the PRC as the government of China" , that is just 2 months of founding of PRC (October 1st, 1049) , in 1950 when learned China was going to send army into Tibet, Nehru wrote to UK to ask the old master what India should do about it, UK government replied, that there is not a single country can stop China send army into Tibet, certainly not India. UK at a time was not run as today on BS ideology, but very practical.
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China has prepared this for decades, the major obstacles was Taiwan strait with US navy AC group and airforce, however, with the time, the threat from US is diminishing fast. TW strait is about 200 km wide, all China land based antiship missiles are with range more than 400 km, therefore, not a single US warship can survive in the strait, which means, China landing ships can cross it without much of the resistance, at least not from US. For air support from US, land based jets are all too far away from TW, as soon as they take off, will all be tracked by China, nowhere to hide, as for AC groups, with China's antiship hypersonic missiles, all with over 1500 km range, any US warship will be in danger inside this range, however, the fighting radia for both F35 and FA18 are only about 750 km. with oil tank in the middle will not help much either, they are not stealthy, can be easily become the targets for PLA jets. US in reality has very limited measure in supporting TW, no one deny US's military power however, TW is just too close to China and US is 10000 km away in the other side of the Pacific ocean.
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Eurojet EJ200 engine by Rolls- Royce max power 90 kn, compare to US F35 engine, F135, 190 kn, F22, F119, 156 kn, China WS 10 for J10c , 140 kn, WS 15 180 KN, Russia AL 31, 130 kn, AL 41 141 kn for Su 35
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Putin just had a phone conversation with Xi, they support each other, Putin firmly support China on TW issue, with the promise, China will take action on TW soon, with this, Russia will get less pressure from US and Europe. it is mutual benefit for both countries!
if US got involved with too much in TW, then Russia will take the chance to take more former Soviet Union countries, US cannot afford that. currently in Russian government someone has already suggested that Russia should take the former Soviet Union countries back such as Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia
after TW, we will come to India to take our South Tibet back, again, like watching Russia beating Ukraine, US will just watch.
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do not always blame Nehru, compare to him, BJP got nothing for India,
All of the Indian Army's victories occurred under Nehru's leadership, not the BJP's. These victories include reclaiming Goa in 1962, securing Bangladesh's independence in 1971, and the success in the Kargil War in 1999.
In contrast, the BJP's actions have been less successful. For instance, in 2017 during the Doklam standoff, the army withdrew following China's final warning. Today, the Chinese PLA remains stationed in Doklam, transforming it into a fortified military base and constructing multiple villages in the area.
In 2019 Barakot air strike totally failed, with no target destroyed but with a mig 21 shot down, with its pilot invited to taste Fantastic tea, and lost a helicopter with total 9 on board, completely a disaster for IAF.
Furthermore, in May 2020, 72 Indian soldiers were wounded by PLA forces and hospitalized at Pangong Lake. Then, on June 15-16, 20 soldiers were killed, and 200 others were captured by the PLA. This information was reported in The Express Tribune article dated October 10th, 2021, titled "Indians furious..."
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@hello-dt6gq Every Indian should watch youtube "India's Stand on China Border Irrational but Nehru's Handling Was Irresponsible: Avtar Singh Bhasin" and read the book, Avtar Singh Bhasin's braveness of admitting that for all these years it was India, especially Nehru, made mistakes and caused unnecessary war and bad relationship btw the two countries, made me into tears.
Nehru knew before the war that both South Tibet and Aksai chin are Chinese territory but he kept pushing his "east forward" policy anyway, with the wish that China would not care, and then once made it a reality China would have to accept it, since India did this to Goa and worked. He ordered his almighty army generals "Kick the Chinese out!" and then, he left to go abroad to show off as the leader of non-alliance, then the sad news went to him, Indian army got total smashed by PLA in both eastern and western sectors, with wet in his pants, he wrote letter to US President Kennedy with tears begged US help. The defeat totally made him collapsed, in just a few years, this arrogant, bluffy, full of vanity Indian PM gone, left a legacy for current Indians, today,
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Unlike poor India, China has huge trade surplus, including India sent China $105 billion a year, now total FEX of China is about $3.37 trillion, almost the same as India's entire year GDP, this huge amount of money cannot be used in China or it may cause huge inflation, before BRI, this money mainly sent to the US to buy US debt, after BRI, this money now goes to BRI to generate more money. this is how smart China is, now you may cry .............
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Indians do not have generation concept for jet fighters, your Su-30 MKI is 3rd, your Rafale is 4th, China J20 is 5th. with the generation gap, 1 5 th fighter can gun down (missile down) 100 4 th, ooops, you have only total 36 Rafale, not even enough for a single J20, China put too many of J20 in there, totally waste, and not necessary.
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@Cravendale98 Eurojet EJ200 engine by Rolls- Royce max power 90 kn, compare to US F135, 190 kn, F22, F119, 156 kn, China WS 10, 140 kn, WS 15 180 KN, Russia AL 31, 130 kn, AL 41 141 kn
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Ladakh is only a place to draw large number of Indian army, this is a place India had to defend, since it is only 400 km to Delhi, so even though China's main attacking is not there, but India needs to keep a huge amount of troops (200,000 and more) in there, just in case, China' s main aim is in the eastern sector, by cutting off Siliguri corridor from Doklam (80 km to Siliguri, with PHL 03 rocket artillery range 140 km) , to attack from Tawang all the way to Tespur, to make whole Assam under control to make sure this time South Tibet is completely back to China.
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India real GDP is only $1.8 trillion. To judge a country's real GDP not by what its government claimed, but what the government can spend, that is reflected in the total budget of a country, US $6 trillion, China, $3.85 trillion, UK $1.3 trillion, ........India?? $400 billion, why? because India does not have the money as it claimed. or the budget should be more than UK's $1.3 trilloin but in fact it is less than 1/3 of UK's budget, the real number of India GDP is only $1.8 trillion, you cannot spend the faked GDP number.
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Modi took all the chances to attends all kinds of meetings, such as quad, G7, "democracy", brics, ..................SCO, but he can never fulfill any of his promises he made to Indians in the election. Sheikh Hasina, did not go any of this kinds meetings, she just made Bangladesh average income higher than India.
When Modi flight to these meeting, he uses his $1.1 billion Boeing 777 India 1 fancy jet. When Xi goes to abroad, he needs to rent a passenger airplane from Air China.
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India is a country makes mistakes all the time, they do not know what is their defense priority. to face China and Pakistan, India needs most is air interception capability and air fighting , not ground attacking, therefore, what they need is good fighter, and AWACS, for drones, they should learn from Turkey and Iran, develop low cost suicidal attacking drones, $4 billion can buy them or make them tens of thousand, ($4 billion can make 40000 attacking drones with $100 k each) Houthi drone (made by Iran) cost only $2000 each, $4 billion can make 2 million of it. well, it is your money, waste as much as you like
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Of course, that is a gap difference. Only India in the stealthy fighter era spent so much money on un-stealthy fighter to fight a country with stealthy fighter, the kill ratio for a stealthy to un-stealthy is 1:100, now stealthy fighter is about $100 million each, India bought Rafale for $250 million, so simple calculation, enemy uses $100 million can cost India, 100x$250 million, that is $100 million to $25000 million, or $100 million to exchange India $25 billion, haha :) good deal.
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India is a country without any vision, in both its domestic and foreign policies. China always has a long term plan, from 5 years to 20-30 years, and work to fulfill the plan, and basically accomplished all of them successfully, India, as contrary, did same, had a 5 years plan, but could never finish it, so India gave it up, no plan any more, instead, Indians have dreams replace any plan, they dream, such as India superpower 2020, and waited there for it to happen, then they dream more about 2030, 2040.........if there is still an India by that time.
It is the same in foreign policy, "India does not have a foreign policy and does not have a forward looking policy that is designed to have some control the external environment to shape that environment in way to raise India's interest , India becomes a passive observer of what is happening" , ____Fareed Zakaria, CNN
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Modi is not good at wa.r at all, here is the proof,
All of the Indian Army's victories occurred under Nehru's leadership, not the BJP's. These victories include reclaiming Goa in 1962, securing Bangladesh's independence in 1971, and the success in the Kargil War in 1999.
In contrast, the BJP's actions have been less successful. For instance, in 2017 during the Doklam standoff, the army withdrew following China's final warning. Today, the Chinese PLA remains stationed in Doklam, transforming it into a fortified military base and constructing multiple villages in the area.
In 2019 Barakot air strike totally failed, with no target destroyed but with a mig 21 shot down, with its pilot invited to taste Fantastic tea, and lost a helicopter with total 9 on board, completely a disaster for IAF.
Furthermore, in May 2020, 72 Indian soldiers were wounded by PLA forces and hospitalized at Pangong Lake. Then, on June 15-16, 20 soldiers were killed, and 200 others were captured by the PLA. This information was reported in The Express Tribune article dated October 10th, 2021, titled "Indians furious..."
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let me explain why we build the birdge, In China side we have a strategic road called G 219, which is why China fought India in 1962 to get Aksai chin back to China, G219 is a major reason, since it is the road connect Xinjiang and Tibet, G 219 pass right at the east bank of Pangong Lake, from there the paved road to the finger regions, and from the bridge build, PLA heavy tanks, such T99A and T96B can get to the area near Chushul and Rezang La quickly.
then next stop will be Leh, ....................then Delhi.
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India army in history won over much weaker army, in 1971, very difficult even today to fight a war with so much distance in part, in 1999, due to the forbidden of US would not allow PAF to use US jets in fighting, in much claimed 1967, it was not even qualified as a war, it was a border skirmish with each other side shot some shells to each other, no ground attack what so ever, but since India has nothing else to boast, in 1962, ok ok no need to mention it, but in coming war, we will not take any POW this time, since it will be too much of a burden to feed 200000 of them.
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In India, only the party with big words of nationalism will win election, such as make India a superpower 2020, and such, with this kind slogan, it is impossible for any party, either BJP or I.N.D.I.A to show any weakness to China, otherwise it will not be elected. so China and India relationship will not get improved under either party, it is the basic national policy of India, with the support of most Indians, so called "democracy". Anti China policy is good for China, we do not want to have any good relationship with India, due to it lacks any real sense of strength of hurting China in anyway (except with big empty words), at this stage, we will just keep India as a huge market for China's products, and later, after TW, we will take back our territory of South Tibet with deadly force, :))
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Modi failed almost all his promises for the first 2 terms, now, for the third term, his major promise is to make India the third economy, well, it is an empty pie again, and here is why:
The United States spends 23% of its GDP, which is about $6.5 trillion. China also spends 23% of its GDP, totaling $4 trillion. India, with a smaller economy, spends less, allocating about 15% of its GDP, which amounts to $580 billion for 2024. Although India's total GDP is $3.73 trillion, roughly 1/4.6 of China's, the amount it can spend is about 1/6.9 of China's expenditure.
How much money a country can spend is crucial for its development and national defense, as it reflects a country's real strength. While you may inflate your GDP numbers to make them appear larger, you cannot spend inflated figures. You may claim that you surpassed the UK in GDP, but the UK's budget is $1 trillion a year, which is 1.72 times that of India. Therefore, for India, its GDP number does not mean much since it cannot reflect its real strength, if we assume India actually also spend 23% of its real GDP, then the real GDP of India is $2.52 trillion. Rank number 8 in the world, after France 's $3.1 trillion, therefore, Modi's promise to make number 3 will remain as a dream
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he cannot even change India for the better, haha :))
2014 India GDP $2 trillion, now $3.4 trillion, for 9 years increased $1.4 trillion under modi, China, 2014 GDP $10 trillion, now $18.2 trillion. increased $8.2 trillion. in 2014, China GDP is 10/2 = 5 times of India's, now 18.2/3.4=5.35 times, so with the "fastest growth" of India under BJP/Modi, the gap of India to China getting larger? hah :))
2014 gdp per capita Bangladesh $ 1108.5, and in 2022 $2687. For India in 2014, GDP per capita was $1559.86,. under BJP/Modi, 2022 India GDP per capita is $2301 . now lower than Bangladesh.
why so proud of a country with global hunger index 107? even worse than north Korea with 97?
in military front, as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious......."’’
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unlike China, for its 5000 years history, most of the time it was a single country, India, however, there were 562 "princely states" or tribes. united (actual meaning, conquered, ) by British and formed British Raj, Patel promoted to form a single union of India. it is actually better for you to be in 562 princely states, you will have 562 kings and queens, so wonderful, like in fairy tale, we will help you to turn it back to 562 tribes soon. :)) so you do not need to waste all the money to pay tax to buy useless expensive weapons such as Rafale ($250 million each, total $9 billion) or S400 ($5.5 Billion), which are totally useless in against China.
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Indians do not know what it means to India, well, in a few years, you will find 2 China aircraft carrier attacking groups in Indian ocean, 1 near Gulf of Persian, and 1 in Malacca strait,
each group with 1X 80000 tons aircraft carrier, , 2X13000 tons type 055 destroyers (you have 0 this class, China now has 8) , and 4X7000 tons type 052D (total you have 3, China has 26) and some type 054A , plus some submarines, in war all your navy warships will be in the bottom of the ocean within 2 wks,
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Modi joined all kinds of meetings, G7, G 20, SOC, Quad, Democracy forum, .....every,, you name it, he would be there, never missed any one, what he got for India? nothing,
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"Made in India"? Yes, the box was, but engine from US, LM 2500, Radar? Israel, Gun Italy, Jet? Mig 29, Landing system, Russia. Anti air missile, Israel, AK 630, CIWS, Russia, Selex RAN-40L 3D L-Band Air Surveillance Radar Italy............................
only sailers were 100 % made in India
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like in a circus show, are those extra actions necessary??? FYI, to the India front, China does not use this kind howitzers any more since they have to be towed or air lifted, currently, in war, once it fired, its position will be exposed to enemy with radar accurately and will be covered with enemy fire in about 2 min, no time for them to move but to be destroyed, on China side, we use PL 181 truck mount 155 mm howitzers, once fired, they moved away to a different position a few km away.
2ndly, they are good target for China's attacking drones,
3rdly, their range (40 km) is too short compare to China's similar weapons (60 km).
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anyone from Australia in there, please say something about why you agree with AUKUS,
fun fact, AUKUS, sell 8 nuclear attacking sub to Australia, with total A$368 billion, that makes it $31.2 billion each, do you know cost for a 100000 tons Reagan aircraft carrier? $4.5 billion, so for total amount of money for sub Australia pays can buy 56 huge nuclear powered aircraft carriers, total AC US has is 13, haha :)) I wonder how much wine Australians drink everyday.
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Buddha said:"endless bitter sea in front, repent, land is just nearby". India's misery mostly due to its anti China policy, with it, it cannot get help from China, with it, it needs to spend huge amount of money on defense and buy useless expensive foreign weapons to counter China, which they should have used the money for education, and economy, but they will not change it, it is nature, since anti China is whole Indians common stands, this is the fate of this country, this nature, we , on the other hand, very happy to play with India as India's number 1 enemy, the reality showed, it wont hurt China in anyway, we can develop our own weapon, mainly towards US, not to India, but if we can fight US, certainly we can beat India, we have now ahead of India in a light year, India is nothing to China.
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former IAF chief said, Rafale has no edge over JF17 III, the reason is, IAF paid too much attention to the platform, not the weapon on it, with China's PL15 with range over 170 km, Rafale has no edge over JF17III,. Today, PAF got much better J10C with even longer upgraded air to air missile, if fires missile at longer distance than meteor range of Rafale, let us see first Rafale be shot down by PAF
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Indians like to say, "we must, we should, we will," but by the end,all of those remain as empty winds, nothing will happen, for Indians, once they said something, for them , it is done, no one bother to do anything about it, until next time,they say, "we must, we should, we will "...again,this cycles just goes with no end
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I feel really pity for the current and coming India army soldiers, they are facing a much more powerful PLA, and risks their lives at the same time with Agnipath they have no job security like before.
Nowadays, fighting war with China from China side will be almost all from long distance BVR, with stealthy fighters, hypersonic missiles, long range artillery, attacking drones, ..........most of Indian army will not see any real PLA personal before they cannot see anything any more. Amen, RIP ,
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Compared to Nehru's government, the current government now are cowards. In 1962, Nehru ordered the Indian army to "kick the Chinese out," with full support from his Defense Minister V. K. Krishna Menon and his army, led by Lieutenant General Brij Mohan Kaul, the commander of the 4th army on the front line. They displayed remarkable bravery, fighting despite the odds, and their heroic actions will be remembered. However, today, facing China in 2020, Modi didn't even dare to mention China's name, let alone order the army to engage in combat. The army chief instructed the front line not to fire a single shot and to lower the artillery barrels facing China, indicating that India did not want to engage in hostilities.
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Meiteis think they are Hindus and backed up by BJP, Meiteis are valley people, the surrounding mountains are the homes of others, the understanding and law prohibit Meiteis to get land in the mountains, however, the population density is too high, with about 600 people per sq km, compare to the people in the mountains with about 59 per sq km, now with the support of BJP, and Manipur's BJP CM, Meiteis now moving into the mountains, that is why the people in this video showed they will use guns to protect their land from Meiteis grab their land , since Meiteis with the support of BJP, this situation will not end anytime soon
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the main task for China to India is to take back South Tibet, therefore an anti China government in India is the best, and Modi is the best PM, since he took the power, India is getting weaker compare to China. despite his calling "Make in India" there is nothing in real sense, India getting trade deficit with China bigger with years, India still cannot make any weapon that can match with China's, the only thing now for China from taking action against India is TW, however, as all expected, TW will be back to China during 2026-2027, during the next term of Modi, (2024-2029), after TW, we will take South Tibet by force, that will be in his term in 2028-2029, so Modi 2024.
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As Xi said, we, the Chinese people, will always following Mao's thought, since history has proven it is correct. today's China is just as Mao wished, a powerful, strong, prosperous, industrialized country with full of bright future,
As you wished:
you are the road far away,
you are lights in the fog in the mountains
I'm a child walking in your eyes,
you are the moon and the breeze
I am your dream
See or not see for a lifetime, embrace you
And I will love the world you love
May the smile you desire
I'm holding your hand please take me to tomorrow
you are the river of time,
you are star fire sky ,
I'll sing you into a song
you are where i came
It's where my heart belongs
Children, sleep peacefully,
as you wished,
Life is prosperous
as you wished,
I will see the world you have not seen write poems you haven't written
The moon in the sky, the thoughts in my heart
you are always by my side
you live in our heart, forever
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Rafale with 6 missiles (no internal weapon bay) has RCS of 10 sq meters, compare to F35's 0.001, simple physiology, F35 can detect Rafale over 100 km, but Rafale cannot detect F35 until about 30 km, F35 can use air to air missile to lock Rafale over 100 km distance and shoot it down, Rafale has 2 limitations, 1st, it cannot detect F35 with its radar, so cannot fire its missile, 2nd, missile even got smaller radar, itself cannot lock on F35.
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let us compare total captured in all wars btw China and India, since others like casualties is not accurate, since both can lie, captured is not, both sides agree,
in 1962, we captured near 4000, in 2020, 200, so total more than 4000,
India for all the war, captured 0
wow, you have so much experience for being captured ,
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both of Meitei and Kuki are actually not the Hindus, but Meitei adopted Hinduism, Kuki kept Christian. at first , there were not so many people, Meitei occupied the best land, Imphal valley, kicks all others to the mountain, under Indian law, they are tribe people , their land should get protected by Law. Now, Meitei complains, they are 53% population, but only 6-7% of the land, but they do not say their land are flat land, Kuki and other people on mountains, with large area cannot inhibit or cannot farm, Meitei enjoy so long in their valley life with all kinds of convenience, now Meitei just to expand to the mountains.
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Modi promised 100 million jobs in manufacturing in 2016 and increase manufacturing in GDP from 16% to 22 % by 2022, , the reality is manufacturing jobs reduced from 53 million to 27 million and manufacturing in GDP dropped from 16% to 13%. this shows a trend. India GDP in 2016 is $2.3 trillion, 16% of it is $368 billion. in 2022, India GDP is $3.47 trillion, 13% of it is $450 billion, this data showed, India although with less jobs in manufacturing but with more output, this in turn means, with technology, less people are needed in manufacturing production, therefore, so called more young people in India is an advantage is just a myth, since there is no more jobs for them, India's industry is too small to accommodate all the people available, with technology and AI, this trends will become worse.
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hahah :)) Ukraine has already lost 25% of its territory, you are still here BS, NATO all land connected to Ukraine, they dare not to do anything, haha :) TW is separated so it is also the same to any other country trying to help, China is much closer in any case, but hey, you can keep dreaming, it is fun, it is pretty, it is free, and it is all you can do, hah a:)
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The significance of SCS islands for China is not just a few (7) tiny islands with only a few sq km each, the importance is they sealed the south direction of Taiwan, with the radars on the islands, US navy cannot go through that direction to Taiwan in case of war, it US directly attack the islands, then it is the same thing, as warning, US is coming that direction. Now China navy is all concentrated on the east part of Taiwan in Philippines sea that is the only direction left for US navy to get to Taiwan, to the north east in Japan, China is not worried, since that direction all covered by land based China air force and missiles.
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too much un necessary gestures just for showing off, by the time they fire the first shot, China artillery has finished them :)))
the range of it only 30 km, for China's similar guns, the range are all in 45 to 60 km range, hah :)
this kind system is very slow, China artillery now all on trucks, they fire and take away every 2 - 5 min to a new position, since nowadays, artillery tracking radar is used extensively in fighting, if you do not move quickly, your gun position will be totally destroyed in just a few minutes, these Bofors might be good in 1999 kargile war, but totally obsolete in 2021
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simple comparison
Max speed, Tejas M1.6, JF-17 III 1.8
combat range, Tejas 500 km, JF 17 1380 km
Radar Tejas Doppler, JF 17 III AESA
Missile, Tejas R73 (from Soviet Union era, very old,) JF 17 III PL 15 with 174 km range
Price, Tejas $65 million, JF 17 III $45 million.
only no brainner would buy Tejas
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today is not 80 years ago, with weapons of mass destruction, a country need to have "strategic depth" to resist this kind WMD. Japan as formed by 4 tiny islands have no "strategic depth", it is the fate this country, its time passed completely in the time of history, will remain as an insignificant country in world, and even now South Korea is doing better, you have so much S. Korean cell phones in your country, do you have any Japan cell phones?? well 100 years ago, JP totally exterminated Korea, made it a part of JP, do you even know that?
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one thing Indians should know, your module for Chandrayaan lander, is the one that had never been proven, all other successful landers of USSR, USA and China, used 1 single descending engine to slow down and land, only Chandrayaan used multiple engines, since 2 already crashed, so up to today, there is no proof this kind design can be successful.
and this design was from a MS student's thesis in MIT in 2004, haha, ISRO just took it, for 2 and for 3, ( I can claim I know your Chandrayaan better than all of you in here)
anyone wants to challenge me on your design of Chandrayaan? I guess none.
all very quiet as expected.
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some simple facts:
1. the UN was founded at 1945, by China, the US, UK, USSR, then France, there was not a country in the world at 1945 with the name "India" but "British Raj"
2. ROC represented China, later in 1971. with over 2/3 vote from the UN General Congress (The General Assembly), ROC was replaced by PRC.
3. At all these time, India, though later became a regular member of UN, never had any chance to become a permanent member of UNSC, let alone it had any right to let other, or even itself to be one of them.
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Ladakh is only a place to draw large number of Indian army, this is a place India had to defend, since it is only 400 km to Delhi, so even though China's main attacking is not there, but India needs to keep a huge amount of troops (200,000 and more) in there, just in case, China' s main aim is in the eastern sector, by cutting off Siliguri corridor from Doklam (80 km to Siliguri, with PHL 03 rocket artillery range 140 km) , to attack from Tawang all the way to Tespur, to make whole Assam under control to make sure this time South Tibet is completely back to China.
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Nehru was a funny leader, he did not really know India, certainly knew less about China. At the beginning, China was weak, comparatively speaking, the west section, Aksai chin, was more important to China, since the highway 219 passed there and it is the connection between Xingjiang and Tibet, so vitally important, so PM Zhou at the time even agreed to exchange it with the east section, South Tibet , to India, if so, no border issue will be today, however, Nehru rudely and roughly told Zhou, "no way, India's territory is not for negotiation", hah :) OKOK , we, the Chinese people today, cannot thank him enough, now Aksai chin is in China for 60 years, and we will take back whole South Tibet soon.
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War is not all bad, with the largest war, WWII, the world have had peace for 80 years, although someone never stopped small scale wars, such as in Vietnam, in Iraq, in Libya, in Syria, in Afghanistan, so with the coming war, the one like to have wars may be stopped for a very long time due to the loses, cannot afford to have more wars, and turned back to a local power in its region, not a boss to the world any more. The world will have another 100 years real peace, Amen.
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All border conflict was due to Nehru, even he knew both South Tibet and Aksai chin are China's territory, but he chose to fight China for them, Indian former diplomats Avtar Singh Bhasin, admitted this, in his new book, "Nehru, Tibet, China" 2021, the only way of solving the border issue is to correct the mistakes by Nehru. withdraw from illegally occupied China territory, South Tibet, or we will take it back by force.
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North Korea's missile went up over 6300 km in altitude, and over 1000 km in distance, converted to over 10000 km, can reach USA, India, on the other hand, can only have Agni V with 5000 km, North with 23 million people, can make much more advanced missile than India, DRDO is only now going backwards to test very short range ballistic missiles, hah :)) 3 things that considered as gems of India, are actually trashes, 1. DRDO, 2. ISRO. 3. Jaishankar
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India was a geological name before British Raj, even inside British Raj, British divided it into many different part, for example, there were 562 tribes, British just called them "Princely States", and basically let them to manage their own affairs, and also to some remote area, British never bothered to control, such as to South Tibet, even British drawn a McMahon line, but never really implemented it, it was India after independence, sent Indian army, led by Major Bob invaded South Tibet and occupied Tawang on Feb 14 1951, and forced local Tibetan government out,
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nothing strange at all, only it was a Spanish woman, it happens to all others all the time, a few years ago, a young couple from China travel by foot and a tent went through all the way via Xinjiang, Tibet, and Nepal, all fine, local people provided them with free food sometime, very safe, but after they came into India, just a few km from the border, they and not far from a village, at night got robbed by a gang of 7, took all their money and camera and computer notebooks, and also tried to rape the woman, the woman shouted with her English "Money, yes, me no!", luckily for her, they let her go.
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There's no need to compare India to inland China; instead, let's compare it to a typical Tibetan farmer or herdsman. When asked about his yak herd, a Tibetan herdsman may respond that he has 300 yaks, each of which can be sold for 10,000 RMB. With 300 yaks, the total value would be 3 million RMB, equivalent to $420,000 USD. However, he wouldn't sell all his yaks, as they also provide milk, bringing in an additional income of 40,000 to 50,000 RMB per year. This income is solely from his yaks, not accounting for other livestock such as sheep, pigs, chickens, and more. As a result, Tibetan farmers lead significantly better lives compared to their Indian counterparts. Tibet has an average population density of 6 people per square kilometer, whereas India's density is 460 per square kilometer. Additionally, Tibet experiences minimal pollution, while India suffers from more than 2 million dea...ths annually due to air pollution.
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All of the Indian Army's victories occurred under the Congress party's leadership, not the BJP's. These victories include reclaiming Goa in 1962, securing Bangladesh's independence in 1971, and the success in the Kargil War in 1999.
In contrast, the BJP's actions have been less successful. For instance, in 2017 during the Doklam standoff, the army withdrew following China's final warning. Today, the Chinese PLA remains stationed in Doklam, transforming it into a fortified military base and constructing multiple villages in the area.
In 2019 Barakot air strike totally failed, with no target destroyed but with a mig 21 shot down, with its pilot invited to taste Fantastic tea, and lost a helicopter with total 9 on board, completely a disaster for IAF.
Furthermore, in May 2020, 72 Indian soldiers were wounded by PLA forces and hospitalized at Pangong Lake. Then, on June 15-16, 20 soldiers were killed, and 200 others were captured by the PLA. This information was reported in The Express Tribune article dated October 10th, 2021, titled "Indians furious..."
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China 's first lock down was correct, saved millions of lives, just compare to US 1.09 million and India's 4.7 million deat.h (WHO), China total now is less than 5300. today, with 93% of the population vaccinated, opening up is also correct. it will not cause huge outbreaks of the disease like before, also the virus violence reduced dramatically, only cause very mild or no symptoms now. Contrary to what you are wishing, Chinese people are very happy, with the new opening up. thank you, now you may keep crying.
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Brahmos so far earned money to buy a pair of wings for Rafale, India proudly announced it sold Brahmos for $300 million, but half of it goes to Russia, only $150 million left, assume making Brahoms cost India nothing, all profit for $150 million, but Rafale cost India $250 million each, $150 million cannot buy a whole single Rafale, so may only buy a pair of wings, ok, plus a tail?
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rise up the repressed poor Indian village farmers, follow the road, as Mao showed to the poor farmers in China, create a new, everyone equal, with no corrupted government, a government not just for big rich as Abani, but for all the ordinary people, to make India an industrialize, prosperous, peaceful, with real democracy (not just in the form, but in real sense for the majority of the people) for set up a society with justice, equality, science based, a community with shared bright future.
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China's hypersonic missile got so fast was due to China's "father of China's missile" Qian Xuesen or "Hsue-Shen Tsien" , he worked in US missile programs in 1940s to early 50s, and came back to China, developed China long range missile program, and it is the bases for all later China's DF serous long range missiles,
he joined Theodore von Kármán's (father of all modern ballistic missiles) group at Caltech. and awarded Leut General in US army while he was in US.
He put "Hypersonic gliding theory " in 1940s, China hypersonic missiles, DF 17, DF 26, all followed this theory. if you go...le his name, you will see a photo with a hypersonic gliding vehicle illustration
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Not a single foreign head went to India's Republic Day, but lots of them will go to Beijing for Olympics:
Putin,Russia President, Poland President, Argentina President, all 5 Presidents of central Asian countries (invited all to India for RD, but none of them came), Singapore president, King of Cambodia, PM of Mongolia. President of Ecuador .......and of course our iron brother , PM of Pakistan hah :)) ..................😁😁😁
We have friends all over the world, India is getting isolated day by day, 😁😁😁
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Japan is actually just a colony of US, its economy total ruined by US since the 89-90 last century, do you see any Japan cell phone? TV? camera? as before? they are gone, Japan lost its chance. India, as usual, always stand with losers. with no future, no hope. The future is China, well, Indians wont listen, certainly not believe it, it is their nature, nothing can change it.
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All of the Indian Army's victories occurred under the Congress party's leadership, not the BJP's. These victories include reclaiming Goa in 1962, securing Bangladesh's independence in 1971, and the success in the Kargil War in 1999.
In contrast, the BJP's actions have been less successful. For instance, in 2017 during the Doklam standoff, the army withdrew following China's final warning. Today, the Chinese PLA remains stationed in Doklam, transforming it into a fortified military base and constructing multiple villages in the area.
In 2019 Barakot air strike totally failed, with no target destroyed but with a mig 21 shot down, with its pilot invited to taste Fantastic tea, and lost a helicopter with total 9 on board, completely a disaster for IAF.
Furthermore, in May 2020, 72 Indian soldiers were wounded by PLA forces and hospitalized at Pangong Lake. Then, on June 15-16, 20 soldiers were killed, and 200 others were captured by the PLA. This information was reported in The Express Tribune article dated October 10th, 2021, titled "Indians furious..."
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South Tibet, very easy to understand, is only the south slop of Himalaya, historically control by Tibet. Not in any way by India, British draw McMahon line for British Raj, as a proposal to China for negotiation in Silam in 1913-1914, no Chinese government signed the treaty, it has nothing to do with Indian government anyway, only in Feb 1952, India sent army to occupy Tawang and push out local Tibetan officials, PLA, due to the civil war, only got into Lhasa in October 1952, Lhasa is still over 600 km to Tawang at the time no road to there, in 1962, PLA occupied Tawang, just too difficult to defend there since needed to send supplies over Himalaya, but now it is not a problem for PLA any more, we will take back whole South Tibet soon.
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we put DF-17 hypersonic missile into service in 2019, recently China TV officially showed how it fired, report is, it is anti ship, with range 1500 km, accuracy 2 meters.
DF-21D also, with range 2500 km, can carry nuke warhead.
DF 26. with range 3500 km, with nuke warhead.
IN China's 13000 ton class Type 055 destroyer, (total 8, India has 0), also carry long range anti ship hypersonic missile, modified from land based DF21D, called YJ (for antiship) 21.
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@Indianarmy22235
you do not know anything about nuclear weapons obviously, China's first H bomb was with 3 million tons TNT, India? does not have it, although they claim they have it, but max amount was 54 k t TNT, showed it was just a failed attempt. Secondly, India does not have any mobile nuclear missile as China's DF 26, DF 31 and DF 41, all India has is put Agni 5 on a tow cart, and can only launch it from certain fixed sites which are already targeted by China various missiles, in the first wave of war, they will be destroyed before firing, and China has multiple layers of anti ballistic missile system, from India to Beijing is 3300 km, from China to Delhi is 400 km, so if India dare to do it Delhi will be disappeared in about 5-10 min.
China has thermal nuclear warheads (if you know what that is) each one with about 300 kt TNT (if you know what means) India only has fission nuclear warheads (if you know what that means) with about 10-15 kt TNT, so each China's nuke head is about 30-20 times of India, let assume 20, western reported China has about 600 nuke warheads, India110 (assume them are true), then China has 20x600= 12000 equivalent vs 110 India has, yeah, good idea, let us play some nuke game, haha :))
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PM is the head of an executive branch of a government, parliament is not under PM but a different branch of a government, of course it should not be Modi, but should be the President of India, head of the whole country, to inauguration of the new parliament building. With this, it shows India, although it claims it is the mother of democracy or the largest democracy in the world, BJP/Modi, has no basic common sense as how to run a democracy, BJP/Modi is making India's democracy a laughing stock of the world
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what she would not tell you is, since India has no deep space network, so all the navigation and instructions are from NASA, you should at least mention a single thank word. secondly, the probe total weight is only 14.3 kg, compare to China's mars mission, with an orbiter, a lander and a rover, total weight 5000 kg. Successfully landed on mars, rover walked on mars, it was first attempt of China alone to mars, the one before was with Russia, Russia's rocket failed.
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PLAAF went to so called "TW space" lots of times, each time TW jets would take off to intercept, and with a warning voice, "you have entered our space and turn back immediately", there are all kinds of replies from PLAAF pilots, some are very polite, some are not so, mostly it is something like "we are doing our routine, please do not interfere", some are not so polite, such as, "just surrender, " or "F...ur M X" haha :))
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Indians still do not get the concept of stealthy means, it is not they cannot be detected, or perfect, the most important is the difference in RCS, as long as it has a detection difference than your jet, it will shoot your jet down, so kid, do not say J20 is not real stealthy, only shows you do not know how it works, Rafale without weapon bay, with 6 missiles its RCS is 10, J20, with embedded weapon bay, the RCS is much lower, less than 0.1. you can say it is not as good as F22 or even F35, which is fine, but important is it much less than Rafale sure to Tejas, so there will be a radar detection difference, which makes J20 can find Rafale or Tejas earlier and lock and fire missile first, then leave the area. understand now?
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PR China under CCP founded by Mao, totally different from China before 1949, under GMT (now in TW), PR China never lost any war since its founding in 1949, do not use Nanking in 1930s to judge PRChina.
1. 1950 Korean war, took PLA only 3 months to kick all US army out of Korea
2. 1962, completely wipe out entire India army, took 30000 sq km Aksai chin back to China
3. 1967, not a real war, but a border skirmish, with each side only shot each other with artillery, no real attack therefore, no win or lost,
4. 1969, fight with Soviet Union for an island, today, this island is still in China, and signed treaty with Russia in 1999.
5. 1972, fight South Vietnam sunk multiple Vietnam warships and occupied whole Parcel Islands in SCS.
6. 1979, fight Vietnam, till 1989, took back whole territory, and after that signed treaty with Vietnam to have all the territory in China
7. 1988, fight Vietnam, in 314 sea battle and win to occupy the island in SCS
8. 1987, fight India, and won later India PM visited China seek peace
9. 2020, Galwan, no need to say, see photo,
as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ..........."
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the total population of Manipur in 1951 was only 5,77,635, of which, 0.5 % was urban and 99.5% was rural. assume all 0.5% all urban population in Imphal valley all are Meitei, that is only about 3000 people in the city and assume with the same ratio, 280,000 Meitei, in the whole valley, they had all the best part, of course they did not care about Kukis in the mountains, and promised not to take their land, that is just fine. that means peace, now Meitei grow to about 1.8 million in the valley in Manipur , so they feel they do not have enough land, so they want to expand to the mountain to get tribe land, well, that is not your land.
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J15 is for aircraft carrier as FA18 for US or Mig 29 k in India, compare to J15
J15 max take off weight, 32 tons, Mig 29 k 24 tons
combat radium , J15, 1500 km, Mig 29k, 850 km.
Max speed, J15, 2940 km / h, MIg 29 k, 2200 km / hr
Radar, J15 AESA , Mig 29 k, The Zhuk (Beetle) family of X band pulse-Doppler radars
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India is getting more isolated in the world, the US is not happy with it, Russia complains there is no use with Indian rupee, with its enemy China getting stronger, with all the countries around it getting closer to China, now the central Asian 5 countries with China is forming a new alliance, currently all 5 presidents will go to China to meet with Xi to discuss the plan of developing the region with China, just have a look of the map, that totally sealed north India, with China PLAN in Indian ocean, India is totally surrounded
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just check by yourself, but i can help you, to show you why it is totally useless against China. it max range is 40 km, and it needs to be towed, or shipped by helicopters to the mountains. In modern war, all fire will be tracked by artillery radar, within 2 min, the counter fire will be fired to the M777 fire position, since it needs to be towed, it will not move so fast, for helicopter transfer, you need to to have air superiority which you do not, your helicopters with M777 with be shot down.
China in India border use PL181 truck howitzer, with max range 70 km, it can fire than move away quickly. your M777 is totally useless against China.
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Indians do not know what it means to India, well, in a few years, you will find 2 China aircraft carrier attacking groups in Indian ocean, 1 near Gulf of Persian, and 1 in Malacca strait,
each group with 1X 80000 tons aircraft carrier, , 2X13000 tons type 055 destroyers (you have 0 this class, China now has 8) , and 4X7000 tons type 052D (total you have 3, China has 26) and some type 054A , plus some submarines, in war all your navy warships will be in the bottom of the ocean within 2 wks,
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Anti China, fight China, is just the basic choice of majority of Indian people, not just Nehru, Gandhi, or Modi. all the same on this point, it is the will of this nation. it is OK. We accept this fact, and we will deal with it accordingly, if you want to fight, we fight, you want China to be your enemy, it is just fine. Each side just needs to bear the consequences of themselves.
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the best way for India is go back to 550 tribes,some of them will be developed very fast, unlike today, too much energy, time and money and resources wasted on totally useless expensive imported weapons for an empty superpower dream, back to tribes, each tribe will only focus on its economical development and creating jobs for tribe members. one example is , India spent $ 5.5 billion on S400 with missile to shoot down Chinese jets 400 km away, but Chinese jets fly 1 km to LAC in Ladakh, spotted by Indian army soldier first then by radar, India dared not to use S400, so what it is for , with $5.5 billion, lots of factories can be built to provide jobs for young people.
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the only way and correct way for India is change its anti China policy, however, this will show as weakness to China, under the current extreme nationalism in India promoted and created by BJP for all the lies about China, people will not accept any policy that show any friendship to China, any party, BJP or Congress , will lose election, therefore, anti China policy will be the basic foundation in India towards China. what Indians do not understand, this policy is actually good for China, since it will not hurt China in anyway, since India will keep buying huge amount of Chinese good, to send huge surplus in trade to China, anti China policy, except to fool Indians people, does not affect China in anyway, but let China to prepare a war to India to get our South Tibet back, it is easier for China to do it than to a very friendly India, any tiny border issue can easily turned into a full scale war, which India will lose again undoubtedly.
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a simple calculation for India, US sell MQ-9 to India with $100 million (cost for US is $32 million), China can make the same weapon with less than $10 million, so the difference is already 10 times, China's defense budget is 3 times of India, therefore, for each MQ-9 that India will have, China can have 30 of them, it is the same for all other weapons, how can India afford fight a war with China, this time, we will make sure to have the war last for 10 years, to totally bankrupt India
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Please understand the most intelligent and only Indian in all history of India that I respect, Buddha, he said: " The endless bitter sea in front, repent, land is nearby". India can never be a superpower, go back to your rural peaceful life, feed your people, do not pollute your cities, calm down, it is your fate, do not pretend to be what you are not, you are not build for war or any fight.
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there is no vocabulary "honesty" in Indian dictionary, they are in quad and so called democracy, but when US asked to sanction Russian oil, they kept buying, since it is the price low and they can make money, they treat China as their number 1 enemy, but they import record high Chinese goods, since the price is low so they can make money, they buy Russian coal but cannot use US$, and Russians do not accept trash rupee, so they went to use Chinese RMB to pay Russian, haha :) this country is just amazing. for them, they can do anything, as long as they can make money.
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China has now 50,000 km High Speed Rail, India 0 km, China built HSR in Laos now operated for 7 months already. China build HSR in Tibet, from Lhasa to Nyingchi Chongkyêr, very close to LAC in South Tibet, HSR not only for tourists, but also can move tanks, ammunition, artillery, supplies and PLA to the front line, in 1962, PLA withdraw after defeated Indian army in South Tibet, this time, we will not withdraw, but stay.
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Jaishankar's basic core idea for India is to put India into US and west arms, since he thinks India is a democracy and share the same ideology and value with US and west, this way, US and west will treat India as an equal part so India can be a strong pole in South Asian to be the leader of the region to realize democracy and prosperity for the region for other south Asian countries to follow. And put anti China policy in the center of this policy to inject an image of a strong powerful democratic fighter. Dream is always beautiful. In reality, none of the south Asian countries want to follow India, instead, they are getting closer to China. Due to India's policy of Anti China, China's response is to put more army at the border and made Doklam and Depsang new military base, this situation made India to put more troops into the border area (200,000), which cost huge amount of money and draw the limited funding of India into the military from education, health care and other development, pandemic only made things much worse for India, In 2019, the GDP of China was 4.88 times of India, now the difference is 6.4 times.
Jaishankar got no special response from US whom he sold India into, US sent warship directly into India's EEZ without any notification to India, and Jaishankar went to DC begging for some vaccine to India, he left empty handed, US instead gave 1 Billion dose to UN COVAXIN, form it, India only got 4 million doses. With US left AFG, India is isolated in the region, not a single friend, even Bhutan sent delegation to China asking for improving relationship with China.
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globe hunger index (GHI) 2022, India 107, North Korea 97, Pakistan 99. ............China, 5.
GHI is mainly saying you do not have enough nutrition for your kids, go to learn how GHI is measured. India GHI, at 107, showed, not how many of you suffer hunger (also true), but mainly saying your children are mostly with malnutrition, India is the a country with largest number of malnutrition kids, in the world, as people say, children is the future of the country, it shows, India is a country with no future, they do not even know how to take care of their own children.
India is country with great inequality in wealth, let us say 2 countries with the same GDP per capita, $2000 a year, 1 country have it shared equally, $2000 each, another country, such as India, with Ambanis and Adanis with $billions, 60% of them with less than $200 each, or 600 million of them live under the poverty line, with 32 rupee a day, where they get enough food?? how can they get good nutrition for their children??
32 rupee is $0.39 day, which is $143 a year.
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in 2018 Prime Minister Narendra Modi ‘New India, has promised by 2022-2023, now 1 year to the target, now with about 1 year to the goal we can check what he promised and what he got so far:
1. increase average income to $3000, now actual average income is $2000, less than Bangladesh, 1 year to increase $1000 for each person.
2. get GDP to $4 trillion, now, actual GDP is $2.88 Trillion, 1 year to increase $1.12 trillion, (2021 with 9.3% growth increased $0.26 Trillion)
3. Promised double farmers income by 2022 from 2016 level. Target income for 2022 is Rs 21416 per month, now actual income is Rs 12445 per month for farmer.
none of the promised will reach the goal, but no worry, PM Modi will propose and promise new goals for election.
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Under Modi's leadership, India's economy may soon be surpassed by ASEAN countries. Currently, India's GDP in 2023 stands at $3.73 trillion, while ASEAN countries collectively amount to $3.718 trillion. ASEAN countries are experiencing rapid growth, exemplified by the construction of the high-speed rail in Laos by China, which was initially designed for freight transportation with a capacity of 0.75 million tons per year. This rail system aimed to reach 1 million tons by 2040; however, it exceeded expectations by reaching 1.6 million tons in its first year and 2.6 million tons in the second year, 2023. Presently, it is being expanded to accommodate up to 6 million tons per year. With this trend, ASEAN countries, which are part of the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP) treaty with China, are poised to surpass India's GDP in the near future.
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India's got about 1/3 military budget compare to China's among it, 50%for salaries and pension, what left over for weapons, what left over for weapons is about 1/10 of China's , with imported weapon 3-5 times more expensive. that makes it only get 1/30 to 1/50 for obtain about same level weapons, and for more advanced weapon, no other countries would sell them to India, such as stealthy fighters, hypersonic missiles, attacking drones, .................that is just for 1 year, for 10 years, Indias' s real weapon/arms level is only about 1/300-1/500 of China's, most Indians would not believe it but still dreaming superpower 2020.
considering its size and money spend on them Indian army is the worst in the whole world. this army have never won any war against any others with the similar size or strength, much worse than N. Korea army, Vietnam army or even Afghanistan Taiban force, they can fight US army. of course it is a loser to China PLA in both 1962 and in 2020, as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious......."
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The ultimate responsibility is on India, since no one in the world can force India to do things it does not want to. India, obviously, wants to put China as its number 1 enemy, it showed in 2017 Doklam, India just sent army into a territory not even India's without even trying to talk first. 2020 in Ladakh is just a response to 2017 Doklam, so the border tension now was initiated by India.
India is a "democracy", the GOI is elected by wills of most India people, and obviously they support Modi's Anti-China policy. Every nation has a government it deserves. Even 70 yrs history and reality showed India lags behind China in every field and with only 1/5 of China GDP although both countries started at the same level, even with 1962 defeat, and 20 got killed in 2020, Indians are still very happy with its government's anti China policy, so what can others do?? for the people, for a nation, that does not look at the reality and facts, refuses to learn any lesson from its past, there is just nothing can be done, nobody can do anything about it, therefore, all we can say is : Happy Suicide!
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Indians are a nation, live in their dreams, they do not see the reality, they do not see how backwards they are and how poor they are under the current system, but at the same time, they are happy, because they are living in their dreams of superpower 2020, 2030, 2040................there is always a tomorrow, next year, next decade for them to dream, how to realize the dreams is not their concern.
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More than half of the Union’s total budget is made up of debt, and few investments are being made in profitable industries. More than Rs 17 lakh crore, or 45% of the budget size, was generated by borrowing out of the government’s overall budget of more than Rs 39 lakh crore. Additionally, the Centre is in the process of selling off some of its assets, like LIC, to raise Rs 75,000 crore.
ratio of india's public debt to gdp likely to scale a new high in fy21 | business standard news
This is a sign that the Center is approaching a damaging condition. We need to analyse the Sri Lankan crisis in this context. Over half of the budget of the Indian government is borrowed. The tax is not being properly collected. The centre is not increasing its investments in the industries that are productive. Additionally, the prices of fuel and kerosene have seen a considerable increase over the years, and if these keep on rising, India will soon face a food and fuel crisis like that of Sri Lanka.
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@santoshjindal4628 We want our territory South Tibet which is illegally occupied by India back to China, that is all, Every Indian should watch youtube "India's Stand on China Border Irrational but Nehru's Handling Was Irresponsible: Avtar Singh Bhasin" and read the book, Avtar Singh Bhasin's braveness of admitting that for all these years it was India, especially Nehru, made mistakes and caused unnecessary war and bad relationship btw the two countries, made me into tears.
Nehru knew before the war that both South Tibet and Aksai chin are Chinese territory but he kept pushing his "east forward" policy anyway, with the wish that China would not care, and then once made it a reality China would have to accept it, since India did this to Goa and worked. He ordered his almighty army generals "Kick the Chinese out!" and then, he left to go abroad to show off as the leader of non-alliance, then the sad news went to him, Indian army got total smashed by PLA in both eastern and western sectors, with wet in his pants, he wrote letter to US President Kennedy with tears begged US help. The defeat totally made him collapsed, in just a few years, this arrogant, bluffy, full of vanity Indian PM gone, left a legacy for current Indians, today,
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China got India completely sealed all the way, on land, with Pakistan, no way for India to go any where on land, only Indian ocean is open, but at north, China has Gwadar port as navy base to seal any transport from Gulf of Persian, since the width of it is about 400 km, totally under China's land based anti ship range. not a single ship to India will go through it war. and the west, with China navy base at Djibouti, again, not possible for India to get anything from that direction, in the south with Hanbantota port in Sri Lanka, despite India's protesting, China' s called spy ship YW 5 decked there, India could not do a thing about it. haha :)
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if you check the map, Agni v is at Manipur to fly to Beijing or any other parts of China, it needs to fly over Himalaya, China has multiple large long range AESA radar on the top of Himalaya, all your missiles will be tracked, targeted, locked by radar and destroyed by anti ballistic systems of China, it needs to fly 3300 km to reach Beijing none of them can pass the ABM system of China, Delhi is 400 km from China, we use hypersonic missiles to make it ashes in 5 min, and ours cannot be intercepted, not even by S400
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you always feel too good about yourself. we do not care so much about your primitive ballistic missiles in the era of hypersonic missiles,
last time, it was the time China sent China's space station module, "wentian, (asking the heaven)" into space to connect to the core module of China's space station, this time it is for another module called "mengtian (dream of the heaven) " into space to connect to the core module of China's space station, now all the work completed, China's space station for the first stage has accomplished successfully. it has 3 modules, there are now 3 Chinese astronauts in it,, soon, Jan next year, other 3 will go there to join them, so total will be 6 of them live in the station.
for space travel, multiple ground stations are needed since the earth is round, so to contact the spaceship, you need to have at least 3 stations around the world, it is called deep space network, since US has 800 military bases around the world, US can has its ground station anywhere on earth, China has some, but also use ships to communicate with space ship, total China has over 16, 6 of them are on ships, called YW, meaning "far look".
India only has one ground station, so for deep space travel ISRO always needs help from NASA, but never told Indians ,such the one that went to mars was conducted and with instructions from NASA, but India do not tell Indian people to make it sounds India did it all by itself, and boasted it all the time, haha :)
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@madmax9538 the core of Modi's ideology is Hinduism, from beginning, he devoted whole of his life for promoting and practicing Hinduism, for him, under the most uneducated population, with this fake "democracy" in India, he succeed in got him elected, however, populist never mean correct. Hinduism never worked for India, otherwise India would not have been ruled for thousand of years by all kinds of foreign intruders, for modern country, it should be run based on science and logic, and reasoning in it, however there are none of these in Hinduism. 75 years practice and 8 years under BJP also showed, it will never work. Modi tried to use Hinduism to unify the whole country consists of 563 "princeful states" or tribes, and promoting Hinduism into the extreme form, Hindtva, by doing this, it will make Hindus hate more on Muslims, Modi maybe able to unify in a degree some stats but during the process he creating 200 million Muslims as the enemy, so he is unifying some parts of the country but slitting others. This will never have a good ending,
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Mughal Empire was actually Islamized Mongolians, Timur was a grandson of Genghis Khan Mongolians are an ethnic group of Chinese, today, we are all in a family of China, so called Mongol control China was civil war of China, unlike India was ruled by all kind foreign intruders for the past 1000 years 6.-7 million Mongolians in China, only 2.5 million in Mongolia, Tibetans, Mongolians, Uighurs , are all Chinese. We are a family. from ancient China, a group of people, as long as they lived in the today's China proper, they were all Chinese, although they might not be Han Chinese, the war between, among all the different groups, were civil war of China, unlike in India, the intruders from other part by invading India, such as Timur was from Afghanistan, .............especially British occupied India, colonized India, that was not the situation in China, the real invasion was by Japan in 1930 to 1945, since Japanese was not a group of people lived in ancient China proper, so that was an invasion, however, Japan never conquered the whole China. Japan never formed a central government in China, unlike the British Raj today, Mongolians, Tibetans, Uighurs, Manchus, ...56 ethnic groups are all brothers and sisters, proudly living in one single great family, China. at the same time, Manipur is burning, haha
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if he is real confident it should be landed already by now. The real reason is 3 , just like 2, has basic design problem, which cannot be solved by now. compare to Apollo and China's Changer moon landers, they can all hover (stop in the space) 100 meters above the surface of the moon, check the surface, look for a flat area to land, then move horizontally to the landing area, Chandrayaan seems have no such capability, that is why ISRO lets it run around and around the moon to find a flat place, however, that is about 75km above the surface, which cannot be accurate enough for landing in an area about 10 sq meters, anything can happen, which may be a deep pit or a big stone, ISRO is gambling.
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We will never get a good or normal relationship with India until we get our South Tibet back, if not return it peacefully, we will take it by force, because it is ours. Even admitted by Indian former diplomat, Avtar Singh Bhasin. He said in his new book, that for all these years it was India, especially Nehru, made mistakes and caused unnecessary war and bad relationship btw the two countrie
for example, the notorious McMahon line was just a proposal by the British, proposed to China for discussion and negotiation, none of the Chinese government accepted it, however, after Nehru took the power, he used it as the border, current GOI still insists this illegal line.
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war in 1962, casualty
India, 4885, captured, 3968, total: 8853 62th Brigadier H, Singh, killed, 7th Brigadier, J. Dalvi, captured.
China, killed 722, wounded, 1897, captured 0
lost ratia India:China=3.7:1
Galwan 2020, India killed 20, China 4, ratio 5:1
Indian, more than 200 captured by PLA
PLA captured by Indian army, 0 . Ratio 200:0
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time and time again, the people of this country got disappointed, they wanted China economy bankrupted for 30 years, not happen, they wanted 3 G Dam collapsed every rain season, not happen, they want the US has full out war with China, not happen, they want the small countries be obsidian to them, not happen, instead, tiny country, Maldives just kicked them out, haha, all these may be signs from the heaven (God or some unnatural force), that China is blessed.
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call for independence in Tamil Nadu, Kashmir, Khalistan, Meghalaya, Tripura, Mizoram, West Bengal, Assam, Nagaland, Haryana, Maharashtra, Karnataka
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the core for ASEAN (as well as the world) is peace and development, as shown in Laos, Indonesia. Vietnam, Malaysia, Cambodia.,,,,with China, not conflict and wa,r. but if you choose wa.r against China? well, it is up to you
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@savanthsunnyt China has the same size of population as India, started at the same level, now China is a light year ahead of India in all area, how do you explain that? now the , as your media say all the time, the threat is from China, not the US, so you should really compare India to China, not the US,
1.India had by far the largest number of zero-food children (6.7 million), which is almost half of all zero-food children in the 92 countries included in this Harvard study.
2.74.1% of Indians unable to afford a healthy diet: FAO ReportReport provides startling figures of country’s position on malnutrition and stunted growth
3. with globe hunger index 111, 6th from the last one.
4. India’s Income Inequality Is Now Worse Than Under British Rule, New Report Says
5. Mumbai has the India most billionaires (297 of them) at the same time, Dharavi is a residential area in Mumbai, Maharashtra, India. It has often been considered to be one of the world's largest slums. Dharavi has an area of just over 2.39 square kilometres (0.92 sq mi; 590 acres) and a population of about 1,000,000.,
6. India has approximately 12 666 377 child labourers total. Uttar Pradesh, a state in northern India, has 19,27,997 child labourers. Delhi, the capital of India, has over 1 million child labourers.
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Photo showed, India newly built road came with the automatic built swimming pools, since after heavy rains, the roads became huge big pits filled with full of water
I did not make this up, it is reported, Sep 24, 2022
"Rain lashed satellite cities around the Indian capital, September 24, 2022, turning roads into swimming pools and causing havoc for vehicles and pedestrians. , (Reuters)"
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@a-good-human-being GDP can be faked, but not the government spending, so use government spending as real to judge not GDP, since you cannot spend fake numbers, China 2023 spending is $4 trillion, India is $ 530 billion, so in GDP, China is 5.3 times of but in government spending it is 4/0.530=7.55 time of India, using the same ratio, China spending is 22% of total GDP, assume it is the same in India, India is also spend 22% of its GDP the real GDP of India is 0.530/0.22=$2.4 trillion
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TW is a long story, it was a part of China, in Qing dynasty lost to JP, after WWII back to China, at the time China was ruled by KMT, totally corrupt government, under it we got things like Nanking, luckily Chinese people led by CCP/Mao kicked them to TW with US protection, they survived, however, the corrupted nature of them did not change much, they treated the local TW people the same, so it was KMT made Taiwan native people hate Chinese although they should actually just hate KMT the common enemy of all Chinese people, this good for nothing KMT lost election to current MJD, government, but this current government got a wrong direction for Taiwan, by trying to seek independence, of course we will not allow it.
interestingly, KMT is just like Congress of India , some elite west educated no touch to the ordinary people, lost to BJP, BJP is very similar to Taiwan's current party MJD on power. Cai is just Taiwan's Modi, not very smart, haha :)
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China sent J20 and H6K bomber to Air Show in Paris, on H6K, it carries 2 types of anti ship missiles, 1. YJ 12, sold to Pakistan called CM 302, with range 500 km, (Brahmos, 300 km), Mach 4 (Brahmos Mach 3), 2. YJ 21, hyerpersonic missile, range 1500 km, Mach > 8. In war with Indian Navy, we put all of them to the bottom of the Indian ocean in 2 wks
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The way of thinking in this country is very straightforward and unyielding. If China deploys a light tank for the mountainous region in eastern Ladakh, we feel compelled to have one too. There is no consideration of alternative strategies, such as developing attacking drones to counter their tanks. Instead, we must build a light tank, even if it has no advantage over China's.
This approach permeates all aspects of India's defense strategy. The primary focus seems to be on appearance rather than actual battlefield effectiveness. It's more about being able to say, "Hey, look, we have it too," rather than developing innovative solutions tailored to real threats.
In contrast, China takes a different approach. When confronted with the 11 giant aircraft carriers of the US, China's strategy was to develop anti-ship hypersonic missiles, such as the DF-17 and DF-26. These missiles can not only target moving ships but also put major cities like Delhi within a three-minute strike range. Currently, there is no effective way to intercept these missiles.
This highlights a critical difference in strategic thinking. While India often focuses on matching China's capabilities one-for-one, China innovates to find asymmetrical advantages that can significantly alter the balance of power. This difference in strategy is crucial for effective defense planning and should be carefully considered.
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Korean people are smart people, north and south are the same people, check your TV, computer, cellphone, cars in your street, even your weapons, K9, as an example, lots of them made by Koreans while you cannot make any. One day , north and south will be reunited, they will be all be rich and strong, you? will remain the same as now.
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We do not need stealthy fighter completely stealthy to radar detect, what importance is only the difference in RCS,. let us just for the purpose of illustration to those do not know anything about stealthy, assume naked J20 and Rafale, just as Indian claimed, J 20 is not stealthy, fine, assume they all have RCS 0.5 which is reported for Rafale, fine, however, one major difference is J20 has internal weapon bay to put medium range 4 PL 15 in in the center and 2 more side bay for PL 10, short range missile, Rafale has no internal bay, it needs to put missile outside, now , RCS of J20 is still 0.5, Rafale with 6 missile its RCA jumped to 10, now the RCS for Rafale is 20 times bigger than J20, this difference will reflect on the radar detect difference, J20 can always find Rafale first, lock it first, shoot missile to it first. and leave the area first, Rafale needs to escape missile attack
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South Tibet was never claimed by the British; the McMahon Line was merely proposed by the British in 1914 as a negotiation tactic with the Chinese government. However, no Chinese government ever agreed to it. This is why Tawang, which should be on the west side of the McMahon Line according to maps, remained under the control of the Tibetan local government throughout the British Raj period, rather than being controlled by the British Raj. Tawang was only occupied on February 14, 1951, not by the British, but by Nehru's dispatched army. The PLA reached Lhasa in October 1952.
"Arunachal Pradesh Chief Minister Pema Khandu today announced that his government will set up a memorial for Major Bob Khathing, an Army officer who commanded a small team of soldiers to establish India's administrative control in Tawang, which borders China, in 1951."
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shauryaaggarwal8319 In war, both sides can make up casualty number, that is just human nature, totally understandable, but one thing both sides cannot lie, that is the number of captured, POW, in 1962 war, China captured 4000 Indian soldiers, including 7th Brigade B. General John Dalvi, tell me how many PLA India captured? let me help. 0.
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the main task for China to India is to take back South Tibet, therefore an anti China government in India is the best, therefore, Modi is the best PM, since he took the power, India is getting weaker compare to China. despite his calling "Make in India" there is nothing in real sense, India getting trade deficit with China bigger with years, India still cannot make any weapon that can match with China's, the only thing now is TW, however, as all expected, TW will be back to China during 2026-2027, during the next term of Modi, (2024-2029), after TW, we will take South Tibet by force, that will be in his term in 2028-2029, so Modi 2024.
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check the record. for 20 yrs, India said numerous times that many many many ma..............ny countries interested, so far, only sold to Indonesia with total $300 million, half of it sent to Russia, only left $150 million to India, we assume it all profit, with 0 cost, what $150 million can do? Rafale cost $250 million each for India, so with $150 million, India can buy a pair wings and a tail for Rafale,
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it was before a dream job for a life time, now they lost the chance and hope. next 4 years may have war with China, with this kind risk, no pension for later,
India always boast their professional army and laugh at China army, now they do the same as China army, so why become an amateur army?
it shows, India BJP does not know how to run a country, for the past 1000 years, India ruled by all kinds of foreign rulers and colonizers, only after 1947, Indian ruled by a bunch of foreign educated elite run India with western ideas and measures, did not work very well, then only in less than 10 run by BJP, unlike Congress, BJP trying to use Hinduism to run the country, well, it is a mess
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Tejas should be good for a tiny country for routine anti terrorist work, the original design for India to use Tejas to fight Pakistan with JF17, F16, and J10c, is totally a mistake, Tejas is too tiny, with fighting time 30 min, fighting radium 500 km and with only 3.5 tons payload, it is totally useless against Pakistan, no need to mention China. May be should sell it to Philippines, or some Africa countries, Egyptian air force armed with Su 35, Rafale, ............ranked in over all rating ahead of IAF from the US forum which has been acclaimed by Indians, since they did not know how to read the table.
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It was with the help of NASA, what she would not tell you is, since India has no deep space network, so all the navigation and instructions are from NASA, you should at least mention a single thank word. secondly, the probe total weight is only 14.3 kg, compare to China's mars mission, with an orbiter, a lander and a rover, total weight 5000 kg. Successfully landed on mars, rover walked on mars, it was first attempt of China alone to mars, the one before was with Russia, Russia's rocket failed.
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may be it is too difficult for Indians to understand, but I will try any way, the basic fact for human being is they need first to eat, to cloth, to have a place to live and to travel, i.e, to have living materials for their life to survival, therefore the production of the living materials are the first priority for human being. all the philosophies and dreams and religions are the secondary but built based up the system of living material production. the political system is for the better and efficient production, not for the the name, today China, with China's system, has 5 times more GDP than India, translating China has more money to help others, to help others to have better development of their countries than India, India, on the other hand, enjoy all the BS democracy and Hinduism BS, which cannot be converted to better production therefore remain as a poor and backward country, of course Indians are happy for those BS, however, other countries want to have better living in materially not spiritually, more and more countries (in BRI over 150 countries), are getting closer to China, they want live a better life for current life, but hey, you may choose your own, live in a slum and play with your rats for fun.
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India wanted to make P-75i submarine with AIP system and sent to 6 countries, Russia, France, Spain, South Korea, Germany and Jappan.for tender,..now, 5 of the countries withdrawn, showed no interest. and US Aus and UK formed AUKUS for making nuclear submarine, again, no India.
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In 2020, when covid started in China, India army thought they had a chance to take action against China since China would not have energy to deal with India since China was busying to deal with the pandemic, so India army started the action in Ladakh, first time in May 2020, India army send soldiers trying to pass Finger 4, but stopped by PLA, fight started, 72 Indian army got wounded, luckily no one died, India kept it down, PLA did not say much about it either, for PLA, it is not a big deal, some photo showed, some captured wounded Indian soldiers lied down on the ground PLA was treating them for their wounds. then India army organized “Operation Snow Leopard” in June 15 2020 at Galwan valley, the aim was to capture a place called Patrol Point 13 by Indian army, the reason is that it is a 90 degree turn point in Galwan valley, from where it can directly see the Shyork river and at the west side of the river bank is the so called SSN strategic road, which India spent $1.5 billion and 20 years to build, however, PP13 is only 5.6 km from the SSN road, totally covered by PLA Red Arrow 10 anti tank missile which has range 10 km, by taking PP 13 push PLA back to the valley with 90 degree would keep PLA out of direct view to SSN road, Indian army for “Operation Snow Leopard” sent 600-700 soldiers tried to capture PP 13, but defeated miserably, with 20 died and 200 captured , as shown in Oct 10 2021 The Express Tribune with title "Indians furious.........", today, PP13 is at PLA hand, and just had a ceremony in the new year with China National Flag at the fighting site,
ALL empty words, you lost all 10 patrol points north of Pangong Tso cannot get back, , PLA just showed new year resolution at the fighting site in Galwan with China National Flag you can only watch cannot do anything about it, PLA almost finished a bridge over Pangong Tso at finger 5 despite you claim all the way to Finger 8, but now you cannot even pass Finger 3, haha :)) that is just simple fact, you dare not even mention them, only brag how brave you are how ready you are, to loss more ?? Keep begging China for more talks, haha :) 15th, ... 20th, then whole Ladakh will be gone.
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China's 1500 nuclear warheads equal 39000 India's, here is why, China has thermal nuclear warheads (if you know what that is) each one with about 400 kt TNT (if you know what means) India only has fission nuclear warheads (if you know what that means) with about 10-15 kt TNT, so each China's nuke head is about 30-20 times of India, let assume 26, western reported China has about 1500 nuke warheads, India 110 (assume them are true), then China has 26*1500=39000 equivalent vs 110 India has, yeah, good idea, let us play some nuke game, haha :))
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for Indians, the most important is what they think what they believe, the fact and reality is not that important, as long as they think that way, they must be right, that must be true, so even they cannot sell a single Tejas to any other country, it is still the best jets, even they have no hypersonic missile, but it already better one than China or Russia or US ever had have or will have,
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India has no capability, the areas are most often covered with think clouds, impossible for optical satellite to get clear image, you need SAR, however, India cannot make it, it needs to import it from Israel, and to cover the area closely without time gap you need a lots of them, in 2019, when Assam flooded, India asked for help for satellite image to see the flooded area, China immediately provided high resolution SAR satellite images of the flooding area
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In 1962, at Tawang to Tezpur, China PLA attacked Sela pass after occupied Tawang, and at the same time, cut to the back of Indian Army at Bamdila completely blocked retreat line of Indian army along road 13, then in front of PLA, from Bamdila to Tezpur, there was no any effective resistance, with the news, Tezpur officials fled away, and the bankers burned Indian currency in banks.
That was 1962, today, India just built a Sela tunnel, to make supplies to Tawang easier, but now PLA will not attack along the road 13 anymore, we will directly land on Tezpur airport.
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Since June 15, 2020, India has lost all so called patrolling points north of Pangong Tso. with 18 rounds of talks, India got nothing from China side. India insist China withdraw and restore as before April 2020, China has rejected this request from India. Now, India cannot patrol to the clash point in Galwan, cannot pass finger 3 in Pangong Tse, at the same time, China built bridge over Pangong Tso, so China's heavy tanks can pass the lake from north to the south of the lake to attack Chushul directly, then move on to Leh in war.
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on the east side of Bhutan is Tawang, fun fact, In 1962 war, facing attacking PLA, at Tawang (the Indian army defending Tawang at the time, did not fire a shot to PLA, when they heard PLA was getting closer to them, they just all run away from Tawang, haha, how brave and glorious they were) , lots Indian army just fled into Bhutan, since PLA respected Bhutan's sovereignty so they just let them run, no bother to catch them, even though, PLA captured 4000 Indian army, with Brigadier General John Dalvi with them, or it would be many more.
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let us compare total captured in all wars btw China and India, since others like casualties is not accurate, since both can lie, captured is not, both sides agree,
in 1962, we captured near 4000, in 2020, 200, so total more than 4000,
India for all the war, captured 0
wow, you have so much experience for being captured , haha:)) so useless.
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I personally do not want to have war with Taiwan, we are all the same Chinese, this is just an un finished civil war of China, better to have peaceful reunification, no need others to get involved, TW current government just have no brain, exactly like Zelensky, fight for what? only got the country (Ukraine) or an area (TW) destroyed,
I only fully support to have large, extremely large, the largest war possible with India, to take back our territory occupied by India, South Tibet and at the same time, turn this so called country back to it should be: 550 tribes.
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Compared to Nehru's government, current government now are cowards. In 1962, Nehru ordered the Indian army to "kick the Chinese out," with full support from his Defense Minister V. K. Krishna Menon and his army, led by Lieutenant General Brij Mohan Kaul, the commander of the 4th army on the front line. They displayed remarkable bravery, fighting despite the odds, and their heroic actions will be remembered. However, today, facing China in 2020, Modi didn't even dare to mention China's name, let alone order the army to engage in combat. The army chief instructed the front line not to fire a single shot and to lower the artillery barrels facing China, indicating that India did not want to engage in hostilities
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so what left now,is only talk, .....................endless talk, and the people of this country with a habit of enjoy the empty talks, never tired of them, haah :) although nothing in reality achieved, however, as long they can talk with big words, the whole nation will be very happy, what results, what reality can they get.........for them is not important, as long as they can talk and enjoy the empty talks, they will feel very happy, yeah, that is the most important for them
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Modi took all the chances to attends all kinds of meetings, such as quad, G7, "democracy", brics, ..................SCO, but he can never fulfill any of his promises he made to Indians in the election. Sheikh Hasina, did not go any of this kinds meetings, she just made Bangladesh average income higher than India.
When Modi flight to these meeting, he uses his $1.1 billion Boeing 777 India 1 fancy jet. When Xi goes to abroad, he needs to rent a passenger airplane from Air China. Xi lifted 850 million Chinese farmers above poverty line.
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PR China under CCP founded by Mao, totally different from China before 1949, under GMT (now in TW), PR China never lost any war since its founding in 1949, do not use Nanking in 1930s to judge PRChina.
1. 1950 Korean war, took PLA only 3 months to kick all US army out of Korea
2. 1962, completely wipe out entire India army, took 30000 sq km Aksai chin back to China
3. 1967, not a real war, but a border skirmish, with each side only shot each other with artillery, no real attack therefore, no win or lost,
4. 1969, fight with Soviet Union for an island, today, this island is still in China, and signed treaty with Russia in 1999.
5. 1972, fight South Vietnam sunk multiple Vietnam warships and occupied whole Parcel Islands in SCS.
6. 1979, fight Vietnam, till 1989, took back whole territory, and after that signed treaty with Vietnam to have all the territory in China
7. 1984, fight Vietnam, in 318 sea battle and win to occupy the island in SCS
8. 1987, fight India, and won later India PM visited China seek peace
9. 2020, Galwan, no need to say, see photo,
as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ..........."
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India is so keen to be together with all developed countries, such as G7, and be so proud of it, but it can only be a tool to them, never a equal partner, or ally to them, only makes Indians feel good about themselves, with no real meaning, China work with all countries, especially developing countries, building a common wealthy peaceful community at the same time, provided China with huge market for technology, work force, products. ..................all over the world
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Jaishankar is just a trash of India, under him, more countries are getting closer to China, more and more anti India activities around the world, India has no friend, just a puppet of the US, Russsia refused to use rupee anymore, forced India to use China RMB to pay for the oil. it is just a trouble maker of the region. India does not realize, the big mouth with empty words are useless, African people see the real things from China with China build roads, schools, hospitals, stadium, ports railways.............but only empty words from India
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India's "fast" growth rate mainly comes from IT and financial service, which is not a very good news, 1. they do not provide most needed jobs for most of the people, as Indian expected as largest youth man power of India, for them, since they cannot get job, they will get old fast, and at the same time , become of burden instead. 2. IT and financial service is a sign of post industrial society, which is good for a country such as UK, not good for never industrialized with 1.4 billion people India
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with the anti China policy, India have to input so much money and resource into military defense to balance the pressure from China, with military budget over 2.3%, however, due to the total GDP is only 1/5.3, China only put 1.5% GDP into military but still has 3 times more amount of money in defense compare to India. with more money in defense, must be less money in education, R&D,. and other aspects in economy development which is what real India needs, which will in turn make India slower in development, which is good for China, thank you.
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in a few years, you will find 2 China aircraft carrier attacking groups in Indian ocean, 1 near Gulf of Persian, and 1 in Malacca strait,
each group with 1X 80000 tons aircraft carrier, , 2X13000 tons type 055 destroyers (you have 0 this class, China now has 8) , and 4X7000 tons type 052D (total you have 3, China has 26) and some type 054A , plus some submarines, in war all your navy warships will be in the bottom of the ocean within 2 wks,
not a single drop of oil can get into India, what oil security??????????
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India do not know PLA at all, even after 1962 war, they thought PLA would fight India at the a certain fixed position, to shoot each other, that is totally not the style of PLA, PLA do not fight that kind of war, PLA moves, goes around, attack from the back, in 1962 war, the 7th Brigade built bunkers even without shooting open at back, to PLA went around to the back to knock them down, the whole 7th Brigade positions collapsed in just 1 day, and with Brigadier John Dalvi captured by PLA. Then later in Sela pass, India formed strong defense positions, then PLA went around via Belly trail to the back cut off the road 13 at Bomdela, to get the 4th army surrounded, so the defense positions became totally useless, with this news, Indian army just fled, they could go back with the road blocked by PLA, most of them fled everywhere through out mountains, ..................with total near 4000 casualties and anther 4000 captured by PLA
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Rafale to France, $80 million, for India, $250 million
EL/M-2075 Phalcon for China, $250 million each, blocked by the US, sold to India $400 million each
Best German rifle, $3000 each, India bought US Sig-16 rifle, $10000 each
C17 for the US $150 million each for India $410 million each
Apache for US, $30 million, for India $100 million each
M777 howitzer , for US $1.5 million, for India $5 million each
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let me help you to know a little bit more about Brahmos, it is very easy to remember lots of 3s, 300 km range, Mach 3 (from 14000 meter) , 300 kg warhead, and sell for about $3 million each.
with this now compare to China's, China sold Pakistan YJ 12, with Mach 4, due to treaty, also 300 km (China's own with 400 km range), therefore, it is not truth Brahmos is the fastest, Pakistan has better anti ship missile, as for China, as I just said, we have YJ 12, and YJ 18, due to it is produced all by China, so it has no limit in range, YJ 18 with range 600 km, to reach this distance, the cruise stage is sub sonic, Brahmos due to all the way with Mach 3, it cost lots more fuel and therefore with less range. and the 300 km range is achieve when first shoot it into 14000 meter high, with less air resistance to get, or in lower altitude, the range will be far less, to about half.
no need to mention China's hypersonic anti ship missiles, YJ 21, DF 17 and DF 21D
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When covid first happened in China, India was very happy, they thought it would just stay in China, then it happened in India, India copied China's lock down, kicked all workers back home, they had to go on foot since no public transportation for them, the lock down did work only hurt India economy so much, so only 2 month later, no lock down, then Modi in Jan 12 2021 claimed to the world that India had won the covid, the whole country was so happy with all kinds huge gatherings for political and religion activities, then the huge 2 nd wave came, ..........with bonfires in parking lots 24 x 7, the flame can be seen from space, and free floating bodies in Ganges, with WHO report 4.7 million, with GDP growth -7.7%...............this is the great achievement of Modi government got for India.
now Indians forgot all of these, started again with evil wishes to China, so one thing will come back to India for sure________ Karma
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In 1962, with the Chinese army occupied a small town Bomdila which was at the back of Indian army cut off them and surrounded them from Sela all the way, about 2 divisions and there was no more defense line from there to Tezpur, Nehru made the statement to the parliament, told them "our heart is with Assmies". This scared the the people of Assam, they thought the center abandoned them, so the bankers burned Indian currency, and fled with Tezpur government officials. Now you know how bad Nehru was facing the Chinese army, however, Modi is even worse, Nehru at least could put on a real fight, Modi dared not even to mention China's name in 2020 incident.
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The most important job is job in manufacturing, Modi promised to create 100 million jobs in manufacturing, however, if you check with AI,
"Employment in India's Manufacturing Sector:
2017: Approximately 62.4 million workers.
2023: Around 27.3 million workers."
Which showed, India lost over 35 million jobs in manufacturing from 2017.
WSJ published an article on Jan 15 2024
India Wanted a Manufacturing Boom. Its Workers Are Back on the Farm Instead.
India’s agricultural employment is growing by tens of millions despite Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s push for factory jobs
India's population has surpassed China, with huge number of youth which labeled India as the youngest major country in the world, however, most of them cannot find jobs in cities, and cannot create wealth, soon, they will become old, waste their youth, and become a huge burden for the country.
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Wish this time India should first design it carefully, not waste $1.5 billion and 20 years to build a SSN which is totally useless.
let me tell you why Galwan is so important to India. 20 yrs ago, India started to build SSN strategic roads, this road goes pass Galwan to the north India base, very important to India, so that why it is called "strategic" road for India, after 20 years and with spending $1.5 billion, they found (finally), it is only 5.3 km from LAC, totally under the coverage of China's anti tank missile (such as Red Arrow 10, with range 10 km), so in war, not a single truck can pass this road at Galwan sector, all 20 yrs and $1.5 billion wasted, more important, they cannot sustain the supply to the north front. on both side of this road, at east side, is Shyork river, and China LAC, right on the west, is huge snow mountain, no possible to avoid this sector, so only way is to push LAC towards China, to make more room for the road to protect it, for doing this, Indian army planned "Snow Leopard" military action with the aim to push PLA back to the Galwan valley, with a strengthened battalion of the almighty army, started attack as shown in the video and results, ..............as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ...........".............................................haha :))
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in modern war, soldiers are not that important any more, modern war fight with attacking drones, hypersonic missiles, stealthy fighters, and long range rocket artillery, China has them all, India has none.
In China PLA long range artillery rocket troop. there are lots of female soldiers, all they need to do is to input data from their commander into computer, and press a red button, and then wait for the commander tell them, "all targets destroyed" over 140 km away, which India can only reach with short range missiles,
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under Modi, the gap between India and China widened, in 2014, India GDP was $2 trillion, China was $10 trillion, difference is $8 trillion, in 2023, despite India claims it had the fastest growth, India GDP is $3.73 trillion, China is $17. 7 trillion, the difference is $14 trillion, that is 75% increase in the gap.
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China is seriously preparing war to India in the Tibetan Plateau by continuously live firing artillery. at over 4000 meter high, due to the gravity and air density, the trajectory of a shell is very different as from the India plain, by doing thousands of live real firing, PLA now preparing the detailed fire trajectory table, to make sure the accuracy in war. while at the same time, India is just still talking and talking. haha :)) Indian army, due to its too poor , has no money, cannot do what China is doing, since it is very expensive, a rocket for PHL 03, may cost over RMB 200000, that is about $30,000 each, 100 will cost $3 million.
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Indian soldiers , you stand in the front ditches, with your Insas primitive rifle, waiting for PLA to come so you can shoot them for defending your country, very heroic, however, you will never see PLA soldiers, in PLA in Tibet, there are lots of girl soldiers ini PLA , for operation of long range rocket artillery, their position is 200 km away from the ditches you stand, their job is just to input target info into computer and press a button, then their commander will tell the girls, targets destroyed, now move to a new position, you will not be there any more.
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In 2020, when covid started in China, India army thought they had a chance to take action against China since China would not have energy to deal with China since was busying to deal with the pandemic, so India army started the action in Ladakh, first time in May 2020, India army send soldiers trying to pass Finger 4, but stopped by PLA, fight started, 72 Indian army got wounded, luckily no one died, India kept it down, PLA did not say much about it either, for PLA, it is not a big deal, some photo showed, some captured wounded Indian soldiers lied down on the ground PLA was treating them for their wounds. then India army organized “Operation Snow Leopard” in June 15 2020 at Galwan valley, the aim was to capture a place called Patrol Point 13 by Indian army, the reason is that it is a 90 degree turn point in Galwan valley, from where it can directly see the Shyork river and at the west side of the river bank is the so called SSN strategic road, which India spent $1.5 billion and 20 years to build, however, PP13 is only 5.6 km from the SSN road, totally covered by PLA Red Arrow 10 anti tank missile which has range 10 km, by taking PP 13 push PLA back to the valley with 90 degree would keep PLA out of direct view to SSN road, Indian army for “Operation Snow Leopard” sent 600-700 soldiers tried to capture PP 13, but defeated miserably, with 20 died and 200 captured , as shown in Oct 10 2021 The Express Tribune with title "Indians furious.........", today, PP13 is at PLA hand, and just had a ceremony in the new year with China National Flag at the fighting site,
you lost all 10 patrol points north of Pangong Tso cannot get back, , PLA just showed new year resolution at the fighting site in Galwan with China National Flag you can only watch cannot do anything about it, PLA almost finished a bridge over Pangong Tso at finger 5 despite you claim all the way to Finger 8, but now you cannot even pass Finger 3, haha :)) that is just simple fact, you dare not even mention them, only brag how brave you are how ready you are, to loss more ?? Keep begging China for more talks, haha :) 15th, ... 20th, then whole Ladakh will be gone.
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people of this country just do not realize how far they are behind, still dreaming 5th, 6th 7th ...gen fighters, hah :)) F35 with F135 engine, max power 197 kn, F22, with engine max power 157kn,. China, WS 10 with max power 133 kn, WS 15 for J20 180 kn, ..... Russian AL 41 engine 176 kn,,, basically for any 5th gen fighter, you need at least 150 kn to make it big and powerful enough (so you can carry enough fuels for longer range and fighting radium and carry more weapons) and can fly fast with super cruise capability, anything less than that will not work, with this news we know, India has nothing near its goal, planned GE 414 with max power 93 kn, by this alone we know your AMCA will be a junk too, haha :) it hurts but it is true. with this still on paper, 100 kn, will be another junk, but it will take at least 40 years or may never for India to reach 150 kN level, hah:) but hey, you can still dream, it is fun, it is pretty and it is free (but you cannot make a a jet real engine just by dreaming, it is a pity, inst it?)
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In 21 century war, tanks are not as in WWII, they do not run in front any more, first, for using tanks effectively and safely (relative speaking), you need to have air superiority, or tanks will be good targets for attacking drones, helicopters and enemy fighter. in Ukraine war, Ukraine has no air superiority, but Russians are not very good either, so for Russians, the way they do is, they mainly use artillery to bomb the Ukraine positions, only after achieved great damage to Ukraine positions, then they send their tanks to clear rest of the remaining enemy positions . It will be the same for the future Sino Indian war, first you will not see Chinese tanks, but with attacks from air with all kinds long ranger artillery, attacking drones, helicopters and fighters, only after that, China's tanks of T96B, T99A Type 15 will show up in Razang La, Chushule , Tespur, Leh, ..............Dehli.
we encourage India spend money build more and better road along China border, so it will help for our tanks to move faster into India, thank you in advance.
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for example, one reason for Indians love ISRO is its low cost, however, with multiple failure, the cost added up, so boasted 1 rocket 104 satellites have no use, bridges and villages China built were huge, but they were not found by India, but by US. so what ISRO good for? nothing, totally useless., but wasting money
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with UCC, Indian people forgot to ask Modi, where are 100 million manufacturing jobs he promised?? manufacture jobs , instead, decreased from 53 million to 27 million, why manufacture in GDP did not get to 22% in 2022 but dropped from 16% to 13%?? why Indian average income is now even lower than Bangladesh? why India's global hunger index is 107? why Indian farmers income did not increase 2 times as Modi promised and many many more such kind questions, in fact, Modi did not fulfill any of his promise in economy for India, Modi promised to get $5 trillion economy for Indian 2024, as the Economic Times pointed out, India nowhere near Modi govt's target of $5 trillion economy
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For the past 75 years, India GDP remain as 3.5% of the world GDP, it is an average for all countries, India growth rate is a myth, in Asia, India is worse compare to most other Asian countries, in 1985, India GDP was 12% of Asia, same as China, Japan was 56%. In 2022, China GDP is 46.5% of Asian GDP, India dropped to 7.56% in Asia many more countries grows faster than India, but hey, you can still shout "India superpower 2020!" It is fun, it makes others laugh at you, and it costs you nothing.
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China's most senior foreign policy official, Yang Jiechi, has told the US that it isn't qualified to "speak from a position of strength" when criticising China.
If US is not qualified, where is India? Negotiation what? It is history, now, just surrender, send South Tibet back to China, no more negotiation.
negotiation is only valid for 2 equal opponents. India was one, but today, India is not qualified to China, we will use what Nehru like to say, "China's territory is not for negotiation", you just wait for our hypersonic missiles to arrive first.
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India's war concept stayed at before WWI, that the fight at fixed position, NAZI Germany with long distance abrupt attacking with tanks and surround the enemy in large number has already changed all this. it is same for PLA. the purpose of India to have this road and air field is to trying to keep the front line with supplies and support in time of war, but India forgot an important point, that is to keep the road safe for transporting troops or supplies and to make the air base safe, all needs to have air superiority, and capability of defend the road or air base from long distance attack do you have it?? no you do not, IAF has nowhere to match PLAAF, nor it can protect the road not be destroyed in war with China's long range artillery, or missiles, or attacking drones
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In just finished Zhuhai air show 2022, China displayed a fighter drone, armed with air to air missile, called FH-97, which will flight in front of J20 20 to 40 km ahead of J20, so when J20 detected Rafale at 170 km beyond the missile Meteor's max range, at this distance, FH-97's PL 15 with range 140 km, since FH 97 is 40 km ahead of J20, so at this time, FH-97 is at 130 km to Rafale which is within the range of its air to air missile's 145 km range, so FH 97 fire the missile to shoot Rafale, sure Rafale can shoot FH 97, but it is just a drone.
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India is a country without any hope or future, the reason is, this country has too many fundamental problems in its society, culture, religion, political system, ideology, .........however, all the problems were considered treasure of India by most Indians, therefore, there is no way to change them, and they do not look the reality, but always live in their wishful thinking and day dreaming. Even if they can realize this, it is still no way for them and they have no ability to change anything. In the human history, lots of nations disappeared, due to the nature of those nation, same for this one, and time will prove it.
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@trijalinamdar5396 some proofs are here, enjoy,
1.India had by far the largest number of zero-food children (6.7 million), which is almost half of all zero-food children in the 92 countries included in this Harvard study.
2.74.1% of Indians unable to afford a healthy diet: FAO ReportReport provides startling figures of country’s position on malnutrition and stunted growth
3. with globe hunger index 111, 6th from the last one.
4. India’s Income Inequality Is Now Worse Than Under British Rule, New Report Says
5. Mumbai has the India most billionaires (297 of them) at the same time, Dharavi is a residential area in Mumbai, Maharashtra, India. It has often been considered to be one of the world's largest slums. Dharavi has an area of just over 2.39 square kilometres (0.92 sq mi; 590 acres) and a population of about 1,000,000.,
6. India has approximately 12 666 377 child labourers total. Uttar Pradesh, a state in northern India, has 19,27,997 child labourers. Delhi, the capital of India, has over 1 million child labourers.
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Most Indians do not understand why the fighting was at Galwan, it is even more fun to know the reason, the true story is India took 20 yrs and $1.5 billion built SSN strategic road in Ladakh , , then India army found after 20 years and $1.5 billion, at Galwan, the road is only 5.7 km from China LAC, totally under China's anti tank missile Red Arrow 10's range, which is 10 km, so in war, the road will be totally useless. so the Indian army organized "Operation Snow Leopard", by sending 600 Indian soldiers to push into the Chinese side on June 15 2020, only to be defeated.
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sure why not, all of them will be taken by China in war, you saved our money and time on building them. haha :) we should say thank you.
We thank India for building good infrastructures along the LAC. It will help the PLA get down to inner India quicker. Thank you for your time and your work and your money.
Another similar story is at SSN strategic road in Ladakh, the road took 20 yrs and $1.5 billion, then India army found it at Galwan, the road is only 5.7 km from China LAC, totally under China's anti tank missile Red Arrow 10's range, which is 10 km, so in war, the road will be totally useless. so the Indian army organized "Operation Snow Leopard", by sending 600 Indian soldiers to push into the Chinese side on June 15 2020, only to be defeated.
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in recent interview, Trump said, "Xi is very smart, top of the line, they are all very smart, we are not top of the line". When Trump met Xi in his resort, the US general asked him if they should launch 57 missiles to Syria, Trump OKed it, and then turned to Xi told Xi the news. Xi said to Trump, "Repeat". Trump said, that shows Xi knows how to speak English
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check a map, in Indian ocean, we have bases in east, Coco island (rent), in south, Hanbantota port, to the west, Djibouti navy base, and in north, Gwadar navy base, the whole India ocean is totally surrounded by PLAN,
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In 2020, when covid started in China, India army thought they had a chance to take action against China since China would not have energy to deal with India since was busying to deal with the pandemic, so India army started the action in Ladakh, first time in May 2020, India army send soldiers trying to pass Finger 4, but stopped by PLA, fight started, 72 Indian army got wounded, luckily no one died, India kept it down, PLA did not say much about it either, for PLA, it is not a big deal, some photo showed, some captured wounded Indian soldiers lied down on the ground PLA was treating them for their wounds. then India army organized “Operation Snow Leopard” in June 15 2020 at Galwan valley, the aim was to capture a place called Patrol Point 13 by Indian army, the reason is that it is a 90 degree turn point in Galwan valley, from where it can directly see the Shyork river and at the west side of the river bank is the so called SSN strategic road, which India spent $1.5 billion and 20 years to build, however, PP13 is only 5.6 km from the SSN road, totally covered by PLA Red Arrow 10 anti tank missile which has range 10 km, by taking PP 13 push PLA back to the valley with 90 degree would keep PLA out of direct view to SSN road, Indian army for “Operation Snow Leopard” sent 600-700 soldiers tried to capture PP 13, but defeated miserably, with 20 died and 200 captured , as shown in Oct 10 2021 The Express Tribune with title "Indians furious.........", today, PP13 is at PLA hand, and just had a ceremony in the new year with China National Flag at the fighting site,
ALL empty words, you lost all 10 patrol points north of Pangong Tso cannot get back, , PLA just showed new year resolution at the fighting site in Galwan with China National Flag you can only watch cannot do anything about it, PLA almost finished a bridge over Pangong Tso at finger 5 despite you claim all the way to Finger 8, but now you cannot even pass Finger 3, haha :)) that is just simple fact, you dare not even mention them, only brag how brave you are how ready you are, to loss more ?? Keep begging China for more talks, haha :) 15th, ... 20th, then whole Ladakh will be gone.
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French is not very good at making military engine, the problems lies their basic design, so for French, they can only make medium power level military engine such the one used in Rafale, the good of Rafale is not its engine but the the whole jet, with 2 engines Rafale's max speed is only M1.8, China sold J10c to Pakistan with only 1 engine got speed to M 2.2, Snecma M88-4e turbofans, max output power only 75 kn, less than what Tejas using now GE 404 with 80 kn. This why French cannot make any 5th generation fighter, they do not have any engine to make it supercruise.
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Meiteis from the past, they occupied the best part of Manipur, Imphal valley, with flat land and rivers, and kicked all others to the surrounding mountains, to call them as tribe people, and trying to show they have mercy to them by promising them Meiteis would not expand to the mountains,with the time Meiteis population grow, and the valley getting more and more crowded,so now they try to move onto mountains which they promised and by law they should not, since they think they are the true Hindus, the mountain people are foreigner from Myanmar, so they do not have right to have mountains, the mountain people, Kuki people, now stand up with arms to protect them land, they home, their properties to be grabbed by Meities which got back up by BJP
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2 years after, who laughs at last?? China, today China has built Doklam a fortress, with everything, PLA before could not stay there in winter, now it all year around. Disputed or not PLA is there and staying there. do not need to believe what I said, just use google earth to see for yourselves.
by the way, this grandma, haha :)) was actually very nervous, she was too careful with her English pronunciation, afraid of being laughed at with Indian accent, but clearly she is not native Californian (I mean she was not born in California) as she claimed.
I found the video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD27woHDWbo
the girl's English is much better than the grandma's at least not that in tense, the girl was very relaxed.
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El Bicho The GOAT China is a huge country, 3 times the size of India, the drought area is limited in south part of China, central and north China with plenty of rains and water, so do not dream too much, worry yourselves, we control river flow into your country.
that is what I mean, we will build huge dams, when you got flood, we will let it go more water into your country, when you in drought, we will let our water go to other place not to your country, haha :) happy?
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Indians, like all other nations, are very proud people, it is understandable, they want to show off to the world, also very understandable, what they do not understand is, the best show off is with your economy with real number, not BS rank, beat the most powerful country in the world. US now is $23 trillion GDP, China $18.2 trillion, yours? $3.4 trillion, now your average GDP is even less than your neighbor Bangladesh, no matter how you show off, even you sent your army to show in US, wont matter much.
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the future of India is very dim, just Indians do not see or do not want to see it. with huge population, with very little grain yield, average grain per person in India 225 kg, compare to 490 kg in China. Even though, the landlords in India just sell grain to the world market, despite India global hunger index 107, they just do not care, with world largest population of malnutrition kids, 5.5 million of them. total manufacture output is $418 billion in 2022, vs China $5 trillion, that is 12 times of India's . which also means China occupied the world market and raw material resources, China has replace Japan as the world largest car exporter, while no where to find India.
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The basic nature behind all of this is the extreme of Indian nationalism, Bose was an Indian nationalist but chose the wrong side of losers for his goal, with the defeat of the axis he lost all. The victors, UK, the US and Russia, would never agree to let him be the PM of India, if he was alive, instead, he would be trialed as a war criminal, so what Ajit Doval said is just useless nonsense. However, what he said reflects what most Indians feel today, the top of Congress is a group of western educated elites of Indians, with perfect English, even not pure Indians, they value western system and ideology most, totally out of touch of Indian ordinary people. on the other hand, BJP uses Hinduism trying to unite the whole country which formed from 562 Princely states by British use force, only common ground for all of them is Hinduism, however Hinduism has been shown for thousands of year, never worked for India when facing invasions from other countries or nations, that is why India was ruled by all kinds of foreign intruders and established their rules in India for the past 1000 years. so if Hinduism never worked then, it will not work now.
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you will fail to fight China, not because of Nehru, or Gandhi, or Modi,
The most basic reason is the anti China attitude of the majority of whole Indians, Nehru or Gandhi or Moid , or future leader of this country, all only using their specific anti China policy to correctly reflect the feeling and attitude of most Indians, this is true democracy. Democracy is just a way of managing a country, itself does not represent right or wrong, there is no guarantee that 1.4 billion people cannot make fatal wrong decisions for their country or their nation.
It is not Nehru, It is not Modi, it is YOU, each and every one of you, you are responsible for the failure (of course the success , if you have any) of your country.
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Let me explain a little more, so called Patrol Points, are those places Indian army could get there freely before 2020, that is why it is called patrol point, so you can patrol the point, after 2020, first India army lost its ability to patrol to Finger 8 in Pangong tso, China army stopped them at Finger 4, it was May of 2020, 72 Indian army wounded,since no one lost life for both sides, did not cause too much turbulence in the media, after talk, Indian and PLA "disengaged" Indian army could not pass Finger 3 now, (so from Finger 8 back to Finger 3, you figure out you advanced?, now China built a bridge at Finger 8 to cross Pangong Tso, so seems that was the reason Indian army was stopped at Finger 4, China planned all this long time ago), then in PP 14, India army was stopped at the fighting site of June 15/16 2020. PLA still hold there, the key is, the point is 5.7 km away from SSN strategic road (which cost India $1.5 billion and 20 years to build), this distance is totally covered under PLA anti tank missile Red Arrow 10 (range 10 km), in war, not a single truck can pass Galwan section SSN, so this road is actually useless, money and time wasted. Similar in PP 15, the disengagement simply means, Indian army cannot get to the patrol point any longer, so you tell me, from places you could go now become places your army cannot go anymore, you won??
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what Jaishankar got for India? nothing, in quad, it is just a barking dog for US, when real thing comes, like AUKUS, they kicked India out, during pandemic, he went to US beg for US vaccine, only got back empty handed. to China, India got more isolated around, even Sri Land wont listen to India not India's request not let China "spy" ship to dock in Sri Lanka.
"India does not have a foreign policy and does not have a forward looking policy that is designed to have some control the external environment to shape that environment in way to raise India's interest , India becomes a passive observer of what is happening" , ____Fareed Zakaria, CNN
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@vanhocwong6689 I am not interested in arguing with you, I only said what Trump would do, I have 2 points in my original
1. more and more country use China RMB for their trade.
2. Since India is also joined non $ group, so it got a threat from the US for increasing the tariffs for India's goods to the US, although higher tariffs at first would be the burden of the US, however, goods imported from India will be more expensive anyway, in the long run, the buyer in the US will reduce the amount , that will affect India's trade and make it worse since India's trade is always in deficit, especially to China, with about $100 billion to China a year.
thank you for your money.
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any nation in this world has some good things and some bad, India is a nation cannot tell what is good what is bad, they treated bad as good, such as Hinduism, it is just a trash, for thousands of years. it never helped India to prevent it from invading by all kinds of foreign intruders, it does not have any science, not logic, just BS, Buddhism is at much higher level. However, just because it is easy to follow, so Indians choose it over Buddhism. now BJP and Modi pushed it into extreme level as Hindtva. as we know from history already, it will get India into nowhere, with no hope and no future.
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Compare to Nehru's government, all now are cowards, Nehru in 1962, ordered Indian army "kick the Chinese out", with full support from his defense minister Menon and his army, which lead by army chief Lieutenant General Kaul, they were so brave, they fought, regardless the results, their heroic braveness will be remembered. Today. facing China in 2020, Modi did not even dare to mention China's name, dare not to order the army to fight, the army chief asked front line do not fire a single shot, lower the artillery barrel facing China to show India does not want to fight. so it is OK to China, since it is superpower, but now even to Maldives???
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for Indians ,once they talked about something, to them, it is done, it is easy to ban anything importing, it is not easy to get all them make in India, talk something you want never mean you can have it in real life. but hey, keep dreaming, it is pretty, and it is fun, and it is free, you have nothing better, or you can do anyway.
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GDP can be faked, but not the government spending, so use government spending as real to judge not GDP, since you cannot spend fake numbers, China 2023 spending is $4 trillion, India is $ 530 billion, so in GDP, China is 5.3 times of India but in government spending it is 4/0.530=7.55 time of India, using the same ratio, China spending is 22% of total GDP, assume it is the same in India, India is also spend 22% of its GDP the real GDP of India is 0.530/0.22=$2.4 trillion not $3.47 trillion as India claimed
with this India is ranked after France ($2.9 trillion) in 7th place
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Under him India tried to be an equal partner of the US, but the US never treated India the same, only as a tool to counter China, for real one, the US use AUKUS. not quad, which is just for barking with no real use. At the same time, India is the same, by not obeying the US calling for sanction of Russia but keep buying Russian oil to make money. Russia also know India cannot be trusted, so it rather to go to visit Korea, and with daily sea warship cruise over Japan sea and joint cruise with Chinese bombers only the space of Japan, in this world, India is getting more and more isolated under this guy.
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in 2017, India did not wait for Bhutan, directly sent army into Doklam on July 17th, then only on July 29th, Bhutan (under pressure of India) issued the protest, this time, the villages were not found just last few days, they were found 2 years ago when they were started building it, now 2 villages finished, with road paved, cars parked in from of many houses, is this your "hours" after they were found? your hours are certainly much longer than any other peoples. haha :) so why talk to Bhutan, why not send your army his time with bulldozers like last time? Bhutan ambassador to India has already told reporters, there is no Chinese buildings inside Bhutan, oooooops.
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Old one is better than this new one, only need some touches even paint to work fine, and save huge amount of Indian tax payer's money. In such parliament building, such as Capital Hill of US or British parliament, they are either round or squared, the reason is, round shape represents heaven, or universe, which means, the power from God. or squared which means the earth, power from the people, none of them with triangle shape as this new one. since it does not mean anything,
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it is a dilemma for India, on the one hand, Indian government put G20 on tourism in Kashmir trying to show the world the Kashmir is a peaceful place, on the other hand, India send huge amount of army and police force to crack down against shmiri human rights defenders by just label them as terrorists. so it slaps its own face, shows and proves Kashmir is not a place with peace.well, seems no peaceful place in India, in NE Manipur is burning, in the central area rural , Maoist guerrillas are fighting, where there is injustice, and oppression by the corrupted central and local government , there will be uprising and resistance of the people,
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India is playing with US and west, and think itself smart, well, US is upgrading PAF F16, sent diplomats to Azade Kashmir, blocking Indians visa to US, Germany is talking about India's human right violation in Kashmir, .................... China is now working harder in LAC in both east and west sectors, you will get rewarded by your "smartness", you will have no one help you when you need, and no one will trust India
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Former IAF chief said, IAF paid too much attention to the platform, not the weapon, for India, there is no edge for Rafale over JF-17 Block III with PL 15 (range 150 km) , the cost of each Rafale is 5 times of JF-17 Block III, now with purchase of J 10C of PAF from China, IAF's situation is getting worse even to PAF, let alone to PLAAF, in the war, within first 2 wks, ALL IAF jets will be totally cleared out from the sky.
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There is no "argument" in India, since 'argument" consists of 2 parts. 1 opinion 2. fact supports opinion. In India they only have opinions which are based on what they believe, not fact needed. Only depending on belief is called religion, based on fact and logic, is science. In India only religion, no science, nor logic. For religion, it originated with multiple gods, then graduated in Ancient Egypt under The Pharaoh Akhenaten, forming a single God, Sun god. but in India, Hinduism still remained as the most primitive form, with over 200 million different gods. this nation, never development, not fit to the modern civilization at all
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let us compare to Modi
Xi, since he took the power, Xi lifted 850 million China farmers from poverty line, he worked hard for the Chinese ordinary low income farmer, literally, he is a leader for Chinese people.
China 2013 GDP $9.57 Trillion, 2022 GDP $19.91 Trillion, that is $10 trillion increase,
India 2013 GDP, $1.87 trillion, 2022, $3.1 trillion, for the same period, India GDP increased $1.23 trillion, China's increased part is 8.13 times of India, Difference in GDP in 2013 is 9.57/1.87 is 5.1 times, now the difference is 6.4 times, India still dreaming of catching up with China.
After Xi took the power, China just started to work on SCS, now with solid control of China's islands in there, in 1965, US violated 500 times China's space, under Xi, now US only sends warships to those islands, not realize, that already pushed China' s defense line 3000 km outside China's coast line.
Xi proposed BRI in 2013, now with the projects harvests results all over the world, so US trying to imitated it,
Xi cleaned up most of the corrupted government officials , and still work hard on fighting corruptions in China.
Xi lead the control of covid virus, he put people's life as the first priority over economy, with total covid death in China less than 5000, compare to India with 4.7 million covid death.
Xi is fully supported by PLA and Chinese people.
Xi is totally deserves the title of "People's Leader"
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Can old parliament building still work? sure it can, is this new one much better than the old one, not really. Old one is by British, new one, inside is still the same as designed by British. this is no beauty in this building at all, and no meaning. In such parliament building, such as Capital Hill of US or British parliament, they are either round or squared, the reason is, round shape represents heaven, or universe, which means, the power from God. or squared which means the earth, power from the people, none of them with triangle shape as this new one. since it does not mean anything,
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Hinduism, as the old and most primitive religion, not even qualified as real religion, with worships over 150 million gods, the religion in the history all started with multiple gods, each group of people had their own god or gods, then started in ancient Egypt Pharaoh Akkeneten, 3500 yrs, created mono God, Sun god, then Hebrew adopted it created their mono God, from that, gradually gaver birth to Christian and Islam, however, Hinduism remain at its primitive form, with millions of gods, the reason for it is that the ancient India with very little time under a single powerful ruler
and for thousand of years ruled by all kinds of foreign rulers with total different religion. they tolerated Hinduism since it had no use and not harm to the ruler but only fool the people, now Modi picked it up again.
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Under this gem of India (read it as trash of India), India is getting more isolated daily in its neighborhood, so it tried to jump into west US arms for protection, however, US just upgraded PAF F16, send diplomats to Azade Kashmir, block Indians visa to US but only take 2 days for Chinese.............not even invite India into AUKUS, India still defend it which has nothing to do with India, so low. once a slave, always wants to please the masters. now they fight among themselves in quad, only makes it more useless
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India was not a country, but a geological name for the area in today's proper. India was a collection of fragmented kingdoms before British rule, and that the British Empire united them into a nation. The British Raj, or Crown rule, lasted from 1858 to 1947, and the region under British control was commonly called India.
Before the British, the region was ruled by numerous dynasties, including the Gupta Empire in the 4th to 6th centuries CE. The Maurya Empire collapsed in 185 BCE, and the Shunga Empire was formed in the north and north-east of the subcontinent.
Some say that the British and European scholars proclaimed that India was not a nation, but a conglomeration of nations. Winston Churchill said that “India is a geographical term. It is no more a united nation than the equator”.
The British Empire in India began to develop between 1700 and 1900, and the first British in India came for trade, not territory.
The name "India" has etymological roots in the Indus River, which was called "Sindhu" in Sanskrit. Another popular name for the country is Hindustan, which means "land of the Indus" in Persian.
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if we check the detail content of this new era of ties of India and the US, we can find,
1. First of all, none of the things that the US provided with India are free, they are either outdated, such as GE414, or at least 3 times more expensive, such as MQ-9, $32 million each, sold to India for $100 million each.
2. So the main benefit of this new era of ties is the US, India pays huge amounts of money to the US to be a tool of the US against China.
3. All these things in the new era of ties are no use for counter China. go figure.
With all these difficulties for India, Indians are all confused, do not know where to go but let Modi lead them down a wrong path. But actually, Buddha, the most intelligent Indian in entire Indian history, already said 2000 years ago, "endless bitter sea in front, repent, the land is just nearby". If you check what is the core reason for causing all these difficulties for India, all originated with India's anti China policy. Change it, everything will be just fine, however, today's Indians have been dragged by BJP and Modi into the deep quagmire, not able to pull themselves out of it. Well, it is your fate, China will win anyway.
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India does not understand, when you are poor and weak, you need to have as many friends as you can, not to created enemies, Deng Xiaoping told China to ‘Hide your strength bide your time" in 80-90d, China did that, successfully developed China with over 12-15% growth for 20 years, India is doing the opposite , although weak and poor and backwards but like to show off as superpower only be laughed at, even Sri Lanka and Bhutan would not listen to India any more, haha :))
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The Himalayas rise to an elevation of 4,500 meters on the Chinese side. Atop these mountains, numerous long-range (4,000 km) early warning radars (AESA) are stationed, providing comprehensive coverage of every inch of India's territory. Any launch is promptly detected within the first 5 seconds, and its trajectory is calculated. If deemed hostile, anti-missiles are deployed to intercept it, ensuring its explosion before reaching the Himalayas. Simultaneously, China's hypersonic missiles, impervious to interception by current defense systems, swiftly reach major cities to the west within minutes.
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China's first H bomb was with 3 million tons TNT, India? does not have it, although they claim they have it, but max amount was 54 k t TNT, showed it was just a failed attempt. Secondly, India does not have any mobile nuclear missile as China's DF 26, DF 31 and DF 41, all India has is put Agni 5 on a tow cart, and can only launch it from certain fixed sites which are already targeted by China various missiles, in the first wave of war, they will be destroyed before firing, and China has multiple layers of anti ballistic missile system, from India to Beijing is 3300 km, from China to Delhi is 400 km, so if India dare to do it Delhi will be disappeared in about 5-10 min.
China has thermal nuclear warheads (if you know what that is) each one with about 300 kt TNT (if you know what means) India only has fission nuclear warheads (if you know what that means) with about 10-15 kt TNT, so each China's nuke head is about 30-20 times of India, let assume 20, western reported China has about 600 nuke warheads, India110 (assume them are true), then China has 20x600= 12000 equivalent vs 110 India has, yeah, good idea, let us play some nuke game, haha :))
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“Every nation gets a government it deserves", we deserve Xi, it is our fate, just as you deserve Modi, only we have at least 5-6 times higher income/with better material living (spiritual living cannot be judged, since you may feel extremely happy to live in slums without AC and play with your rats to have fun) in a much stronger and prosperous with the larges economy in ppp and the largest industry country in the world with even brighter future. we will keep going our own way, and do not care whatever others say about China. we judge things by reality, by data, by numbers, by the living standard of ordinary people, not by ideology which set up by westerns.
Unlike Modi tavel with a $1.1 billion Boeing 777 Indian air 1. Xi travel only with a rented air plane from Air China, Xi saved all the money for poor farmers, for himself was one among them as leader in a poor village, Xi loves ordinary with low income Chinese farmers, once he took the power the first priority of him was to lift 850 million low income farmers above poverty line, compare to Modi who only works for the interest of Ambanis and Andonis
let us compare to Modi
Xi, since he took the power, Xi lifted 850 million China farmers from poverty line, he worked hard for the Chinese ordinary low income farmer, literally, he is a leader for Chinese people.
China 2013 GDP $9.57 Trillion, 2022 GDP $19.91 Trillion, that is $10 trillion increase,
India 2013 GDP, $1.87 trillion, 2022, $3.1 trillion, for the same period, India GDP increased $1.23 trillion, China's increased part is 8.13 times of India, Difference in GDP in 2013 is 9.57/1.87 is 5.1 times, now the difference is 6.4 times, India still dreaming of catching up with China.
After Xi took the power, China just started to work on SCS, now with solid control of China's islands in there, in 1965, US violated 500 times China's space, under Xi, now US only sends warships to those islands, not realize, that already pushed China' s defense line 3000 km outside China's coast line.
Xi proposed BRI in 2013, now with the projects harvests results all over the world, so US trying to imitated it,
Xi cleaned up most of the corrupted government officials , and still work hard on fighting corruptions in China.
Xi lead the control of covid virus, he put people's life as the first priority over economy, with total covid death in China less than 5000, compare to India with 4.7 million covid death.
Xi is fully supported by PLA and Chinese people.
Xi is totally deserves the title of "People's Leader"
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The whole thing of the US and India can be divided into 3 parts:
1. Pretty names, such as democracy, or strategic partnership, all these are empty words, do not mean anything.
2. real thing, this part is real, that is India pays huge amounts of money for US weapons, GE 414 is outdated, US would not use it for anything, sell it to make money, India cannot use it to make 5th gen. fighter, it is a waste of money. for the drone, $32 million each to US , sold India for $100 million each, India is just a customer, nothing to do strategic partner, US sells the same to Japan and TW, difference is the US shares the data link from the drone with them, not to India.
3. a pie in the air, this is so called, technology cooperation with US and India, including making chips, or AI or whatever, the problem for this part is, it is mainly not up to the US government, it is up to the individual company of the US , if they think they can make money, they will do that, if not they will not, India is not a good place for them to make money, in the past 5 yrs, more foreign companies moved out of India than moving in, if Ford and GM all fled, they cannot even make cars in India, who can make chips in India for making money? not even potato chips, ,
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In 2020, when covid started in China, India army thought they had a chance to take action against China since China would not have energy to deal with India since China was busying to deal with the pandemic, so India army started the action in Ladakh, first time in May 2020, India army send soldiers trying to pass Finger 4, but stopped by PLA, fight started, 72 Indian army got wounded, luckily no one died, India kept it down, PLA did not say much about it either, for PLA, it is not a big deal, some photo showed, some captured wounded Indian soldiers lied down on the ground PLA was treating them for their wounds. then India army organized “Operation Snow Leopard” in June 15 2020 at Galwan valley, the aim was to capture a place called Patrol Point 13 by Indian army, the reason is that it is a 90 degree turn point in Galwan valley, from where it can directly see the Shyork river and at the west side of the river bank is the so called SSN strategic road, which India spent $1.5 billion and 20 years to build, however, PP13 is only 5.6 km from the SSN road, totally covered by PLA Red Arrow 10 anti tank missile which has range 10 km, by taking PP 13 push PLA back to the valley with 90 degree would keep PLA out of direct view to SSN road, Indian army for “Operation Snow Leopard” sent 600-700 soldiers tried to capture PP 13, but defeated miserably, with 20 died and 200 captured , as shown in Oct 10 2021 The Express Tribune with title "Indians furious.........", today, PP13 is at PLA hand, and just had a ceremony in the new year with China National Flag at the fighting site,
ALL empty words, you lost all 10 patrol points north of Pangong Tso cannot get back, , PLA just showed new year resolution at the fighting site in Galwan with China National Flag you can only watch cannot do anything about it, PLA almost finished a bridge over Pangong Tso at finger 5 despite you claim all the way to Finger 8, but now you cannot even pass Finger 3, haha :)) that is just simple fact, you dare not even mention them, only brag how brave you are how ready you are, to loss more ?? Keep begging China for more talks, haha :) 15th, ... 20th, then whole Ladakh will be gone.
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It is a gamble and double edge sword for BJP, you want to show tough to win vote, fine, if you do not do the real battle, you are just bluffing with a big mouth, not very convincing , if you do it, you may win, that good, you got vote, how about you lose?? with more IAF jets, may be 5 and more this time? shot down and more pilots taste fantastic tea (this time, may be not many can be that lucky) then you either have to make fake victory, claiming how many more PAF jets you shot down without evidence, you lose face and make IAF as joke in front of the world again.
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Descent propulsion system for the USA Apollo, China's Changer and Chandrayaan 3,
1. USA Apollo, single engine, big, using helium gas as pressure source to push fuels and oxygen into engine to burn, by human control the throttle.
2. China, Changer, single engine, big, 1.5 -7.5 tons adjustable thrust for a 3.8 tons lander, use computer to control stepper motor to squeeze the fuel and oxygen into engine, the push can be continuous and stop and start multiple times, very accurate and with quick response time.
3. India Chandrayaan, using helium gas as pressure source to push fuels and oxygen into engine to burn, 4 small engines (800 kg thrust each) share common tank for fuel and oxygen, with step valves (20% each for Chandrayaan 2, and 10% each for Chandrayaan 3), no human control. with rough control and slow response. total weight of the lander about 2 tons.
by comparing all 3 Descent propulsion systems, there is 80% chance that Chandrayaan 3 will be end like 2.
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India's war concept stayed in 1999 Kargil war, that is just hold on a position at the border, never learned anything from 1962 war, PLA never care about certain position, but focused on destroy the enemy army, not occupy certain place, by destroy the army, the land will be controlled naturally. so in 1962, for the first stage of war, PLA destroyed whole 7th Brigade in 2 days, captured Brigadier John Dalvi. In the second stage, India put a strong defense line at Sela pass, China did not attacked it, but run around it, send a troop via Belly Trail cut into the back occupied Bamdila, when heard this, India army in Sela had to give up the position and run back with total collapse. haha, go to learn your lesson well first.
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in 1962, India tried to attack Tawang which was lost to PLA earlier after 7th Brigade was destroyed, so Indian army sent 4th division with 62 brigade (Brigadier Singh) to put all of them to go up all the way from Bamdila along road 13, PLA detected this situation, Marshal Liu said, this is a "brass head, lizard tail, tight at back, loose at belly" means, very strong in front, but weak in the back, then later PLA prepared to attack in front to brass head, at the same time, sent a troop went around, along "Beily trail" to cut in the back, ,,,,, Indian army started to withdraw and fled from Sela pass, PLA got the the back and found 8 cars run down from Sela to Bandila, but PLA was too late, 8 cars passed them, among them there was Brigadier Singh in them, later he was attacked by another PLA unit and ki..led.
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Doklam is 80 km to Siliguri, where Indian army 33rd corp is stationed, Doklam is 4300 meter above Siliguri, with China's artillery (type PHL 03) fire range 140 km, 33rd army positions are all covered, in war, all the positions will be bombed by PLA day and night, but 33rd army corp has no effective way to retaliate, since it does not have any artillery can reach that far, M777 range is about 60 km but since it needs to reach also 4300 meter high, that makes the range even much shorter. 33rd army cannot attack PLA position either, to ask soldiers to climb 4300 meter in the mountain to well prepared PLA position is just suicidal to them, India cannot use tanks since T90s cannot climb that high,
then the corridor to the NE states of Assam etc will be totally cut off, just destroy the bridges on Teesta River, we will take back out South Tibet, your whole NE states will all be gone.
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this largest democracy in the world,
1.India had by far the largest number of zero-food children (6.7 million), which is almost half of all zero-food children in the 92 countries included in this Harvard study.
2.74.1% of Indians unable to afford a healthy diet: FAO ReportReport provides startling figures of country’s position on malnutrition and stunted growth
3. with globe hunger index 111, 6th from the last one.
4. India’s Income Inequality Is Now Worse Than Under British Rule, New Report Says
5. Mumbai has the India most billionaires (297 of them) at the same time, Dharavi is a residential area in Mumbai, Maharashtra, India. It has often been considered to be one of the world's largest slums. Dharavi has an area of just over 2.39 square kilometres (0.92 sq mi; 590 acres) and a population of about 1,000,000.,
6. India has approximately 12 666 377 child labourers total. Uttar Pradesh, a state in northern India, has 19,27,997 child labourers. Delhi, the capital of India, has over 1 million child labourers.
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India's real GDP is only $1.77 trillion, not as it claimed at $3.16 Trillion in 2021. to see real strength of a country, not to see what that country claimed GDP its (as India) but check what the real money the government can spend. in 2021, US collected tax revenue income was about $4 trillion, with budget about $ 6 trillion with $2 trillion deficit, China income was $3.2 trillion, spending was $3.85 trillion, guess what was India's spending in 2021? $ 400 billion, that is only 1/9.25 of China, that is how much money Indian government can spend, 1/9.25 of China, assume China and India government spend the same percentage of GDP, that is 22.5% of total GDP, real India GDP is only $1.77 trillion. you may claim you have whatever, $5 trillion, 10, 20, whatever, the real money you can spend is in your budget, that reflects your real GDP. so do not be so happy that you are taken over UK, UK 2021 total budget $1.3 trillion, that reflect, still 3 times more than India can spend.
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Mr Li, a senior in China's lunar space program, a leader in China's strategic supporting force, which has a brigade stationed in Pakistan for Pakistan's defense, as shown in the result of 2019 Balakot strike by India with IAF only killed a crow but got a mig 21 down with pilot tasted fantastic tea, later, he was in charge of PLA 's weapon development, with stealthy fighters, hypersonic missile, attacking drones, new aircraft carrier with electromagnetic culprit, need more? your defense minister is nothing compare to him, hah :)) true story
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nobody can win Indians in argument, if you say China has better weapons, they say Chinese weapons are junks, if you show them with photo even with wood sticks, PLA beat them, they will say killed more, 20 vs 24. 60. 105, (no photo provided or needed), if say PAF shot down a mig 21 captured the pilot, treated with fantastic tea, they say they shot down 2 F 16s, again no evidence needed, they will always win, if they cannot deny lost in 1962, then they have 1967 to wait for you, and blame all to Nehru.
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@archockencanto1645 the pity is, your brainwashes are totally useless to China and Chinese, we have heard for over decades China economy would collapse "next" year, for over 30 yrs, this "next year" never come.
every year at rain season, , China's 3 gorge dam would collapse, well, this will continue for 500 years, this year due the large flood, 3 gorge dam produced largest amount of electricity,
China has food shortage, so China had to import India rice for starving people
well, China's grain per capita is 478.2 kg per year vs India's 220 kg.
keep your brainwash going, haha :)) and have fun with them
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( a few words about Zhou Enlai, many know he was PM of China for a long time, not many people know he was founder of the PLA (red army), in 1927, when Zhou was only 29, he was commander in chief in an armed uprising against the KMT (fled to TW later in 1949). The date was August 1st of 1927, the date is set as PLA founding date. India never had any military experience by itself before 1947, but all under British command , so in 1962, it is a pc of cake for Zhou deal with Nehru who did not know anything about military, of course behind Zhou, another giant of China Army was Mao, under Mao, PLA defeated total 8 million KMT army armed with US weapons and kicked them to TW in just 3 years, from 1947, to 1949. (47, 48, 49). Indians say PLA has not fighting experience? hah :) what a joke!
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not listen to me, at least you should listen to what your former IAF air marshal , he said, "India paid too much attention to the platform, not weapons on the platform, Rafale has no edge over JF-17 III with PL 15 medium range missile" . Now Pakistan bought 24 J10C with PL 15, which is much more powerful than JF-17 III, your Rafale M has no match to it, no need to mention to fight China AC jet, J15, or J35 stealthy fighters.
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Most people do not know China's conditions on take Taiwan with force, they are, 1. TW declare independence, (so far, TW 's name is still "republic of China" not Taiwan), 2nd, with huge turmoil inside Taiwan, so far, not happened yet, TW will not floating away to California, so we do not worry about it.
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nothing else better to do for Modi,
Modi traveled out of India for over 70 times with his $1.1 billion Boeing 777 dream liner, at the same time, leave India with global hunger index 107, average income lower than Bangladesh, with the world largest poverty population, New Delhi is the 2nd most polluted capital in the world, and with Manipur is still burning
Modi's US agenda
1 tell US how India trains fly into the air and lost almost 1000 human lives,
2. tell US how India giant bridge collapse 2 times in building and wasted huge amount of money, 3. Tell US how successfully get to global hunger index 107
4. tell US how to get the average income lower than Bangladesh under him.
5. tell US how to get Delhi most polluted capital in the world.
6. tell US how to lost to China in border, as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ..........."
Indians like to say India ranks 4th economy,
1. rank does not meant anything, for example, number 1 100, number 2 99, 3 97. number 4 can be 3 or 5.
2. you have no enough food, no matter with inflation or not
3. your GDP is the 3.5 % of the world in 1950, now it is the same 3.5% after 73 years, so fastest is just a lie
4. prediction never accurate 7.2 only in your dreams
5. Make in India is just an empty slogan, actually nothing is made in India.
6. More foreign companies moves out of India than moving into India for the past 5 yrs
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"Farmers' income would double by 2022, this is a promise I would assure our Indian farmers.." - Modi, 2019
The absolute increase was only 38% till June 2023
"China has bullet trains, so are we Indians too, very soon. Our 508 km Sabarmati-Mumbai bullet train, would be a reality before August 15, 2022.."-Modi, 2018
none
"Make in India would end China's era as the factory of the world .." -Modi, 2015
none
"I will create at least 20 million jobs a year until there are not enough workers if elected as the PM of India.." - Modi, 2014
Manufacturing job dropped from 60 million to 27 million
"When we Indians celebrate our 75th year of independence in 2022, I shall present to you all, India's very first bullet train.." - Modi, 2017
none
"India will send its first astronauts to space before independence day 2022, this is not a promise but a guarantee.." - Modi, 2018
none
"Give me 5 years as the PM of India and people won't even remember there was once something called pollution in India.." - Modi, 2014
hah
"If I'm the PM of India, Pakistan and China would be so scared of India's power, they would think twice before attempting any funny moves on India.." - Modi, 2014
yeah, scared, PAF invited IAF pilot to taste fantastic tea in 2019
"Give me 6 years and corruption would be a thing of the past in India.." - Modi, 2014
:)
"We will build 100 smart cities within 5 years in India to the point where Americans, Japanese, Europeans and even Chinese would want to come and study our smart city concept.."- Modi, 2015
yeah, haha :)
"Atmanirbhar Bharat Self-Reliant India will end our imports from China, instead, China will even have to import stuffs from us after that.." - Modi, 2018
"Give me 6 years as the PM of India and everyone in the world would want to come to India to study our achievements.." - Modi, 2014
ha :)
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I just stole PLA plan, PLA is at Doklam, which is 80 km from Siliguri, with PLA PHL 03 long range rocket artillery (range 140 km to 300 km), the whole 33rd army corp positions are under it fire range, then PLA just need to destroy 3 bridges on Teesta river, the whole NE states (provinces) will be completely cut off, then PLA in Tibet will completely wipe off the 3rd and 4 th army stationed in there, to take the whole Tibet South back to China. thanks again for the Sela tunnel, with this tunnel, PLA T99A tank will only take less a day to get to Tezpur this time. The recent reported 200 PLA were found near Tawang, reason for PLA move so fast is that this is all the way down hill, going down about 150 km over 4000 meter height, very easy for China side, but on India side, it needs to clime up to 4000 meters and worse is it is impossible for India T90s tanks to go up the mountain, but not problem for China's tanks to visit Tezpur, people live in Tezpur may consider to move to Mumbai to be safe
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it is not easy to make gliding type of hypersonic missiles either, not that simple, with that high speed, the temperature on the warhead will be extremely high (2000 C) , you need to guarantee the sensors (radar, optical, etc) can still work properly so can guide the missile hit the target accurately, Even North Korea can make it now, South Korean monitored NK's test, with speed M 7, range 700 km, India cannot make it, DRDO is the worst defense inst, in the world, North Korea in missile is more advanced, NK only with 22 million people, compare to India 1.4 billion.
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what that to do anything with India?? Gripen is much better than Junk Tejas. hah : ) , just a fact, they use the same engine, GE404, at the first, with the success, now they changed GE 414, unlike India only talk about Tejas MK II, they already have new Grepen with GE 414
for such a good jet, they sell it for $40 million to $60 million, HAL sell the junk Tejas to IAF for $63 million each, haha :) what a joke!
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let me tell you a top military secret, in Ladakh, PLA has about 50000 troops, backed up by air bases around in Hetian and other places, India has 200000 army as defense line by transferred some troops from facing Pakistan now to China, also with S400 positions (which can be taken care by hypersonic missile in the first wave of the war) . China border at Ladakh is about 400 km from Delhi, however, China does not have much of the territory dispute in the region since there are only snow mountains, nothing else, due to its distance to New Delhi, India had to put a lot of military force in there, that is good, that is just China wants India to do, so we can put real force in different direction to defeat Indian army to get our land back to China. Once war starts, Pakistan will take action to take whole Kashmir since as I said India has reduced force facing Pakistan, 50000 PLA with PLAAF support is more than enough to defeat the whole 200000 Indian army in Ladakh.
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We are good for you, check the fact, all US army trained other country army lost in war, 1. Goergia army, lost to Russia, 2. Ukraine army, lost to Russia, 3. Afghanistan army, lost to Taliban, 4. South Vietnam army, lost to Vietcon. 5. South Korean army, lost to North Korea, 5. KMD army, lost to PLA. .................the list goes on and one, ... so your army ..............😁😁😁
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Korean people are smart people, one day, South and North will get reunited, they will have world good smart phones, good cars, good TVs, good jets, T50, good tanks, missiles and nukes, compare to India has nothing compare to the future united Korea
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Buddha said, "endless bitter sea in front, repent, the land is nearby", the only key issue between India and China is our land South Tibet is now illegally occupied by India, return it, China will not put any more military pressure to India, so India does not need to spend so much money on useless weapons, but put it into the development of the country in R&D and in education, healthy care, infrastructure, ....................everything will be fine.
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this is the ugliest thing in the world. with no armor protection, so called active protection is totally uselesswith engine from the USA, assemble in India, and called it ingenious. In modern war, or even not in modern war, war is not must a tank to tank, artillery to artillery, infantry to infantry, so for your Zorawar, you may not face T 15 light tank from China, but hundreds of attacking drones, there is no effective way, as shown in Ukraine war, against this kind attack.
totally waste of money.
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Relative detection range vs RCS
Known scenario = X
Problem scenario = Y
Detection Range Y = Detection Range X / (RCS X1/4 / RCS Y1/4)
Assume Su 30 MKI and J20 with the same radar detection rang for non stealthy jet, 170 km, assume J20 has RCS 0.001 (10 times bigger than F 22) , RCS for Su-30 MKI is 20,
then, J20 can radar can detect Su30 MKI 170 km, but Su 30 MKI can detect J20 at 170/12.28=13 km. in air battle, J20 fire PL 15 missile (range 175 km) at 170 --------------------------50 km, and shoot Su 30 MKI down, Su-30 MKI will not be able to detect J20 .
Rafale is not much better, since its RCS is 10 with 6 missiles, so then, J20 can radar can detect Rafale at170 km, but Rafale can detect J20 at 170/10=17 km. in air battle, J20 fire PL 15 missile (range 175 km) at 170 --------------------------50 km, and shoot Rafaledown, Rafale will not be able to detect J20 until 17 km,
with this, you can even make J20 RCS even bigger, as long as it is in the missile range and outside detection of Su30 MKI or Rafale, J20 will be able to shoot them down, not being detected by either of them.
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More than half of the Union’s total budget is made up of debt, and few investments are being made in profitable industries. More than Rs 17 lakh crore, or 45% of the budget size, was generated by borrowing out of the government’s overall budget of more than Rs 39 lakh crore. Additionally, the Centre is in the process of selling off some of its assets, like LIC, to raise Rs 75,000 crore.
ratio of india's public debt to gdp likely to scale a new high in fy21 | business standard news
This is a sign that the Center is approaching a damaging condition. We need to analyse the Sri Lankan crisis in this context. Over half of the budget of the Indian government is borrowed. The tax is not being properly collected. The centre is not increasing its investments in the industries that are productive. Additionally, the prices of fuel and kerosene have seen a considerable increase over the years, and if these keep on rising, India will soon face a food and fuel crisis like that of Sri Lanka.
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All religions, west or east, were created by the people, not by God. reflecting the way of the local people's living and thinking correspond to their different religion or adopted from the religion from other place to be used as guide for their way of living. Through out the history, many religions disappeared, got rid of by the people, since history shown they were useless. They would choose different way of thinking to fit their people and living better. so the old does not mean better, only the practice, the reality and the facts can show which one is good. Hinduism, through thousand years of history had shown, it was totally useless and just a trash, since 300 million gods in it could not even protect India from all kinds of foreign intruders to invade this country and rule it. Now BJP again, pick it up from trash pile, haha :))
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Indians like to make up lies, enjoy their lies, get pleasures for their lies, such as PLA cannot fight, with no fighting experiences, .......................... and they never bother to study, to learn, and they do believe lies created by themselves, . only be fooled and bear the consequences of their own lies, which is total defeat, ... but they never learn, make up new lies, and enjoy new lies, ,hahh a:)) so this cycle goes on
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modern war fight based on industry especially based on the capability of manufacturing , China's manufacturing output in 2020 is $5 trillion, US, $2.5 trillion, Japan $1 Trillion, India $0.418 trillion, Australia $ 0.078 trillion, China is 5 - 2.5 -1 -0.418 - 0.078 = 1, China has $1 trillion more than all the quad country combined, if they want to fight, ok, we fight.
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India, as always, has no vision, it has nothing to do with India, it should stand neutral , but dum..b Modi jus chose the loser side, since for a long run, the people of middle east plus Iran will win over a tiny Israel. China and Russia stand with Palestinian people, if the war get involved with more countries, then we can take the opportunity to take our South Tibet by force, nobody will come to help India, since for the US, Israel is more important.
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more technically, I know most of them cannot understand, but try anyway, without accurate targeting system, it is no use for talking about 500 km range or not since your best radar is only about 250 km, how your missile fly for the rest of so called 250 km?? China on the other hand, the sea star 347 has already over 600 km range, in war, China also developed sophisticated guiding systems, PLAN's aim is for the US ACs, never bother with IN, since all of them are just junks
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manusharma5225 you do not understand, even it is out as in your dream, it is still not useful, since it cannot be used for a real 5th gen stealthy fighter,
for stealthy fighter, all of them with jet engine more than 140 kn. F22 with 153 kn each engine, F35, 190 kn,. J20 use WS`15 with 180 kn, Su 57, with 140 kn. yours is no use.
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Total AC now, China , 3 , 2 65000 tons, 1 80000 tons, India , 2, each 40000 tons, China is 130000 tons more than India,
total 13000 tons type 055 destroyers, China 8, India, 0
total 7000 tons destroyers, India total 4, China, 26. type 052 D.
Anti Ship missile, India, Brahmos, speed M 3, range 290 km,
China, hypersonic, YJ 21, speed M 7, range 1500 km
YJ 12, speed M4, range 400 km
YJ 18, range 600 km, can be launched from submarines.
China will sink all India warships in war in about 2 weeks time. sa-you-nala
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it is a total BS, you need to compare the total launches, China is 10 times more,
over all, China's space launch with successful rate of 96%
India is 84%
2021, China space launches, 56, failed, 3. 95% successful,
India, space launches, 2, failed, 1. 50% successful,
2022, China space launches, 31, failed, 1. successful rate . 97%
India, 3 launches, 1 failed, successful rate, 67%
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This is all for jobs, for job opportunities, what Indians do not realize, the situation is much worse in India, just yesterday, Harvard Business Review reported "Less than half of the 950 million working-age population is actually employed""Bleak as this statistic is, the reality is worse. According to the Periodic Labor Force Survey, some half of all those workers are self-employed, a category that includes “unpaid helpers in family enterprises,”___Harvard Business review, by Bhaskar Chakravorti July 19, 2024,
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Aisa, without US, is already free, open, safe, why we need US come here to tell Asians how to do and what to do?? who give it the right?? why India is so foolishly cannot see that? If US fled from Afghanistan, cannot save Ukraine, will US save India? how?? without US, China has already peacefully reunited with TW long time ago, US does not want peace or safe in Asia, just as it in other parts of the world, it wants war, so it can sell its weapons to make money.
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in next war with India, PLA , now stationed in Yunnan, may just go through Myanmar (we are good friends of Myanmar, we tell them we want to liberate Myanmar people oppressed in Manipur by Indian army) directly send tanks to Manipur, this route no needs to climb over Himalaya, together with the troop of PLA going down from Tawang along road 13, cut off at the back for the India 4 th army (IV Corps (India)) stationed at Tezpur, and the 3rd army in Tinsukia area, to completely take back South Tibet and get NE states all independent from India.
Indian army 33th army is at Siliguri, which will be bombed directly from Doklam, 80 km to Siliguri, so 33rd cannot move and cannot do anything, PLA can cut off Siliguri corridor easily.
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@bagpiperbagpiped168 in the army, all major weapons are from China, T99a, T96. PCL 181, Wuzhi 10,
in airfore J10, J20, J16, all major jets are China made,
in missile, DF 31, 41, all China made
in hypersonic weapons, DF 17, YJ 21. all China made,
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f..........ls, listen, in jets, they classified in generations, Rafale is 4th, China now, is in 5 th, with the beginning in 6 th, (go to learn what it means) there are 2 generation gap, so just wake up, do not dream too much.
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@NovalGreat you have many BS replies, hah ,you cannot say correct term, what is the fk "side wings near pilot cockpit", let me teach you, it is called, canard, now remember it, so you meant it cannot be stealth with it? then check your IAF dream 6 th gen. fighter, you know what, yeah, they put canard for it. haha :) I have no time waste a du...b like you, go to learn first.
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all this country has is Brahmos, and boasted it all the time, they do not know much about YJ 12 which China has for a long time, people in this country always say Brahmos is fastest cruise missile, they do not know JY 12 got Mach 4, Brahos only Mach 3, if they say nothing can intercept Brahmos at M3, then how about YJ 12 at Mach 4??? Brahmos with range of 290 km, YJ 12 with range over 400 km.
besides China's antiship ballistic missile (DF 21D), and hypersonic missile (DF-17), China can use a combination of fighters, such as J20 and J16 D to fight FA 18 and F35, at the same, to cover for H6K to each carry 12 YJ 12 to attack US aircraft carrier strike group. Taiwan is only 200 km from mainland, China, it is high dangerous for US air craft carriers to get close to 1000 km to China, but F35 and FA 18's fighting radium is only 750 km.
more difficult is Taiwan with wide of 200 km, for US to interfere PLA crossing TW strait that added another 200 km so total will be 400 km, the antiship missile range from air is LRASM has a range of 300 nmi (560 km), that means FA 18 needs to fly to about 200 km to TW, :)) they cannot survive with China's jets fighting them.
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that is a lie and misinterpretation by the west and India media intentionally. the pity is , as all other lies from them, will not work. China and Russia are strong allies and good friends. unlike India, swings all the time.
in the recent incident in Russia, Putin called leader in Iran, Turkey, and some others, sent his deputy FM directly flight to Beijing to meet Xi to report, to Putin, Modi or India does not exist any more due to India jumped into Russia's enemy the US laps, so Modi got his brief on Russia by India officials who just heard the news from the media as everyone else in the world
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the only thing India has and boasting all the time is Brahmos with only 290 km range, DF 21 is not for India, it is for US, for India, we do not need it, for India, we use YJ 12 , range 400 km, Mach 4, or YJ 18, range 700 km, can be launched from Submarines, and newly tested hypersonic YJ 21, with range 1000-1500 km, and .... more,
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1. GE 414 is useless cannot be used for 5th gen fighter,
2. even if it can be used for Tejas MKII, assume it is as good as FA18, still not be useful, Tejas MKII , just like Tejas mk1. will not be able to sell a single one to the other country. so GE414 cannot produce in a large number,
3. with limited number of GE414 production, will make the each one cost very high, therefore it will not be able to sell it to other countries. this is a bad cycle,
4. Make in India does not mean you can make the Ni-base single crystal turbine blades for it, you still needs to import the part from the US,
5. Ni-base single crystal turbine blades is already out of date for making more powerful turbine blades for which needs ceramic materials, which are the engines used in 5 th gen fighters with max power output above 140 kn, GE 414 is only 93 kn, (GE404 is 81 kn, Kaveri is 71 kn), compare to F22's engine, 153 kn, F 35 's 190 kn, China WS 15 for J20 180 kn. The US will not provide such kind engine to India.
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China showed, the best way of fight terrorists is actually using attacking drones, they can fly at night, with night vision, not detected, and fire missiles to destroy targets. China has sold about 300 attacking drones, mainly to the middle east, for over 10 years, with participated in the real battle for about 1000 times, with kill ratio about 96%. India does not have any attacking drone, next time we will try surgical strike on Indian army with our attacking drones day and night, be prepared.
almost forget to mention, China PLAAF formed an attacking drone brigade near India border with retired real jet fighter pilots from PLAAF to operate them, they know exactly what to do to Indian army
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@sujitsk PR China under CCP founded by Mao, totally different from China before 1949, under GMT (now in TW), PR China never lost any war since its founding in 1949, do not use Nanking in 1930s to judge PRChina.
1. 1950 Korean war, took PLA only 3 months to kick all US army out of Korea
2. 1962, completely wipe out entire India army, took 30000 sq km Aksai chin back to China
3. 1967, not a real war, but a border skirmish, with each side only shot each other with artillery, no real attack therefore, no win or lost,
4. 1969, fight with Soviet Union for an island, today, this island is still in China, and signed treaty with Russia in 1999.
5. 1972, fight South Vietnam sunk multiple Vietnam warships and occupied whole Parcel Islands in SCS.
6. 1979, fight Vietnam, till 1989, took back whole territory, and after that signed treaty with Vietnam to have all the territory in China
7. 1984, fight Vietnam, in 318 sea battle and win to occupy the island in SCS
8. 1987, fight India, and won later India PM visited China seek peace
9. 2020, Galwan, no need to say, see photo,
as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ..........."
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China will never give up South Tibet, only now the main point is TW, but will take back South Tibet right after TW, so the logic for India should be just using this time to develop itself, but no, India is not doing that, but enjoying boasting as a mother of democracy (what the fk even that mean? no significance at all in reality) and spend huge $ , instead invest, but waste on useless weapons, it is very good for China, only Indians with very short sight cannot see that.
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for thousands years of history, Indians were not good at war, they chose not fight, but let the foreign intruders to rule them for thousands of years, they have no tradition of fighting. so for thousands of years. Indians were ruled by Persians, Turks, Monguls, and .............British. We were different, only for the late Qin, and before 1949, guess who ruled time at the time, GMD, do you know where they are now? guess---------------------> Taiwan. CCP lead Chinese people kicked them all out of the mainland. Now, it is time for the Chinese to finish them once for all.
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it shows, India BJP does not know how to run a country, for the past 1000 years, India ruled by all kinds of foreign rulers and colonizers, only after 1947, Indian ruled by a bunch of foreign educated elite run India with western ideas and measures, did not work very well, then only in less than 10 run by BJP, unlike Congress, BJP trying to use Hinduism to run the country, well, it is a mess ,
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the rocket launchers will be put in Doklam which is 80 km to Siliguri, in where, Indian army 33rd corp is stationed, Doklam is 4300 meter above Siliguri, with China's artillery fire range 140 km, 33rd army positions are all covered, in war, all the positions will be bombed by PLA day and night, but 33rd army corp has no effective way to retaliate, since it does not have any artillery can reach that far, M777 range is about 60 km but since it needs to reach also 4300 meter high, that makes the range even much shorter. 33rd army cannot attack PLA position either, to ask soldiers to climb 4300 meter in the mountain to well prepared PLA position is just suicidal to them, India cannot use tanks since T90s cannot climb that high,
there are only 3 bridges on the very wide Teesta river east of Siliguri, China will destroy them in the first round of bombing, that will completely cut off the connection to the NE states, the 4th army (in Tezpur facing Tawang) and 3rd army corp ( in the east) will be completely cut off support, PLA tanks will coming down from mountain from Tawang to Bomdila to Tezpur, the recently accomplished Sela Tunnel makes PLA move much easier and faster.
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Due to the lies from India media, Indians always mis judges China and Russia, the dispute over the territory, actually there were all treaties signed, not matter how unfair to China, treaty is a treaty, just like British took HK was unfair to China, but it was a treaty signed, so China just waited until the treaty expires in 1997 to take HK back. Same to Russia, we respect treaty signed, unlike in India, the South Tibet occupied by India was based on British draw McMahon line, which not any Chinese government recognize it, no treaty signed, therefore it is totally illegal, we will take it back, if not by peaceful means, we will use force to take it back, get prepared.
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people of this country is typical with big mouth, for them, after they shout out, then it is done, until next time, when they found more buildings, bridges , roads, villages, .....they will shout again, ...and then nothing, ...........this cycle repeats. haha :))
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this is no beauty in this building at all, and no meaning. In such parliament building, such as Capital Hill of US or British parliament, they are either round or squared, the reason is, round shape represents heaven, or universe, which means, the power from God. or squared which means the earth, power from the people, none of them with triangle shape as this new one. since it does not mean anything,
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Indians should go back to read history carefully (since there is not a single one from India, you may read history book from monks travel to India 1000 years ago), India, Hindus, by nature, was never good at fighting, it is God made nature of you, nothing much you can change, so logically, you should focus on things you are good at, such as singing, dancing, BSting, dreaming, spend a wonderful peaceful life, let others to do the fighting, in modern days, no other country wants to occupy India again with huge burden to feed 1.42 billion hungry people in a place with so filthy and heavily polluted toxic air, so take it easy, China only want of South Tibet back, nothing more than that.
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India got wrong assumption, we do not pay any attention to so called heights, not like you were in 1999 Kargil war, we do not fight for height, Mao taught PLA, pay no attention to place, but destroy as many enemy as possible, so PLA is always with first aim to destroy you army, not to take so called heights, especially now , we use drones, no need to send soldiers to the top of snow mountains in winter to freeze their butt off.
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the first wave of war of China to India will be hypersonic missiles attack on all S400 position, since S400 cannot intercept hypersonic missiles, than for this 2k12 Kub, or Akash, our anti radiation missiles with far more range against them, this failed missile range is 24 km, Akashi is 45 km, our anti radiation missile range is over 100 km, with all anti air system destroy, we bomb all Indian positions as we wish and we will not take POWs this time, nowhere to put over 200000 of them and no enough food to feed them.
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UN is a tool, not a master of the world, in 1950, PRC was not a member of the UN, (ROC (TW) was in UN for China), the UN formed UN force consisted of 16 countries led by the US to fight war in Korea , China PRC, was not even a member, China sent PLA to fight the UN force, in just 3 months, kicked the UN force out of North Korea backed to 38 parallel line.
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situation in Ladakh cannot be just simply stated as "disengaged' or not, the key is who in on the strategic key positions in the area. Due to the geology of the area, 3 key areas in Ladakh, 1. Pangong Tso, there Chinese army stopped Indian army at Finger 3 (no road from Finger 3 to Finger 4) at north bank of Pangong Tso, on China side good paved road from highway G219 all the way to Finger 4, at Finger 8, China built bridge for heavy weapons, such as tanks, to cross Pangtong Tso to Chushul area, from there the road Tsaka, La Road, connected to Leh. This is the most important area for China.
2. PP15 is about the same it is located north of Pangong tso, and this area is not that important, only China side is flat plain, India has no good road to get in there.
3. Galwan valley, the importance in this place is China and easily cut off SSN strategic road.
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Indians like talk in their dreams, for them all they need is what they feel what they want, no data no evidence needed, number to this nation claimed created math means nothing. they do not understand, fight a war is based on manufacturing capability, China's manufacturing output a year is $5 trillion, India is $418 billion. China's government spending is $4 trillion, India is $514 billion,
well, if you want a war? you got it, we can play,
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@major2707 you do not know anything about nuclear weapons obviously, China's first H bomb was with 3 million tons TNT, India? does not have it, although they claim they have it, but max amount was 54 k t TNT, showed it was just a failed attempt. Secondly, India does not have any mobile nuclear missile as China's DF 26, DF 31 and DF 41, all India has is put Agni 5 on a tow cart, and can only launch it from certain fixed sites which are already targeted by China various missiles, in the first wave of war, they will be destroyed before firing, and China has multiple layers of anti ballistic missile system, from India to Beijing is 3300 km, from China to Delhi is 400 km, so if India dare to do it Delhi will be disappeared in about 5-10 min.
China has thermal nuclear warheads (if you know what that is) each one with about 300 kt TNT (if you know what means) India only has fission nuclear warheads (if you know what that means) with about 10-15 kt TNT, so each China's nuke head is about 30-20 times of India, let assume 20, western reported China has about 600 nuke warheads, India110 (assume them are true), then China has 20x600= 12000 equivalent vs 110 India has, yeah, good idea, let us play some nuke game, haha :))
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Compare to Nehru's government, all now are cowards, Nehru in 1962, ordered Indian army "kick the Chinese out", with full support from his defense minister V. K. Krishna Menon and his army, which lead by army chief and commander of the 4 th army in front line, Lieutenant General, Brij Mohan Kaul, they were so brave, they fought, regardless the results, their heroic braveness will be remembered. Today. facing China in 2020, Modi did not even dare to mention China's name, dare not to order the army to fight, the army chief asked front line do not fire a single shot, lower the artillery barrel facing China to show India does not want to fight. @rakheeinamdar3952
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India in the history was first conquered by nomads north, Persians, Afghanistan, Turks, Monguls, since they had cavalry, Hindus did not, then by British from South, this time, British had guns and warships, Hindus did not. finally finally, after 300 years and grabbed $45 trillion, nothing left for India, they left, so, what a release, Hindus can finally finally run their own country, suddenly they got a strong neighbor emerged right at their door step, China. after 1962, lost 35000 sq km Aksai chin, now China will take back 90000 sq km South Tibet, ......and China has weapons that India can only dream of, namely, 1, stealthy fighters, 2. Hypersonic missiles, and 3. tens of thousands of all kinds of attacking drones. India does not. This time, it is the best for India just concede South Tibet to China peaceful, everything will be fine, we do business as usual, otherwise, not only we will take back South Tibet, we will also to get all your NE states get independent from India, and worst is to turn all your country back to 562 "princeful states" or tribes.
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God is very amazing, he put India in a low plain, shelled it from China with huge snow mountains, 4600 meter high plus, with 1000 km inside China with Gobi deserts, so impossible for India to invade, since even with great efforts they climb over the mountain, there is still 1000 km with nothing, still need to keep a supply line which will be easily cut off. so China did not bother to build "Great wall" as China did to the north. At the same time, China can go down the mountain easily, like in 1962, Tezpur front had no resistance after most of India army got destroyed at Tawang ---Bomdila sector.
my point is, China can invade India any time, India cannot to China. It is God will, take it, it is your fate.
do not argue with God
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Like cultures in every country from ancient times, there are good things and bad things, for Chinese culture too, the difference is, we took the good things and got rid of the bad things in our ancient culture, as Mao called "Take the essence, get rid of the bad", India is to take them all, including the bad, in it, they believe their ancestors mastered space travel, human regeneration from tissue culture, etc all kind of BS stories from ancient time, and India "Science" foundation gave them money for this kind BS "science" research, as real science called it "Pseudo-Science" in India and published a paper in the journal of "Science" in 2015 about India's "Pseudo-Science" BS. it is a laughing stock to the scientific world in the world.
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someone is too optimistic about IAF, as former IAF air marshal R. K. S. Bhadauria said, there is no edge of Rafale to JF 17 block III with PL 15 missile, IAF paid too much attention to the platform, not the weapon, meaning, PAF has better air to air missiles, no need to argue with me, now even worse, PAF received 24 J10C armed with PL 15, J10C is a much better jet than JF17, with total brand new powerful AESA radar, $80 million each, vs $250 million each of Rafale, China can supply unlimited number of J10C to PAF, we have more 400 J10s, India total has 36 Rafale. So let us see all Rafale gone with wind.
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For religion, it originated with multiple gods, then graduated in Ancient Egypt under The Pharaoh Akhenaten, forming a single God, Sun god. but in India, Hinduism still remained as the most primitive form, with over 200 million different gods. this nation, never development, not fit to the modern civilization at all. Now BJP pushed it into the extreme form, Hindutva, total BS, will only ruin this country faster.
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it is their nature, they would do anything to save some face. we see this all time time, if their jet got shot down, they must have "shot down" one from the enemy, if they got 20 lost in Galwan, they must done done double to their enemy too, with 40, 45, .........105, again, even they cannot provide any evidence (they have no concept of evidence means).
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Historical records are clearly there, international and Indian scholars all knew it, however, majority Indians do not accept it, they just want to hold what was not theirs, refuse to discuss it, even pushed bit by bit into China to get more, haha :)) so there is really no any reasonable way to deal with this nation, all options exhausted, only way left is by force. Nobody wants war, but if it is forced, we have to take it.
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Situation has not changed in Tawang front since 1962, Oct 20 1962, after 1 day fight, PLA completely destroyed 7th Brigade of Indian army, captured its brigadier BG John Dalvi. heard the news, Indian army at Tawang just fled their positions, so PLA took whole Tawang without need fire a shot. Indian army put an defense position at Sela Pass, along the road 13, all the way to Bomdila, with heavy artillery in front try to stop PLA. PLA did not attack first, instead, PLA sent 600 soldiers went around the mountains in a road called Belly Trail, to cut at back of Indian army at Bomdila, so cut off the back of Indian army whole army was surrounded from Sela Pass to Bomdila, the whole army collapsed, they just run away from any tiny road they could find in mountains, impossible for PLA to catch them all, most of them run into Bhutan, which PLA respect never got into Bhutan, BG, Singh got kil.ed when he met PLA on way of fleeing . After Bomdila, there was no resistance, no army , all the way to Tezpur, Tezpur official heard the bad news, all run away, and the bankers burned all Indian currency in the banks.
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very obvious, all smart people can see it, US led westerns want to constrain China, but they want to save money and effects, so what to do? Just let India do it, India is happily accepted it, then 20 got killed, large amount of army stationed in Ladakh at -30 with huge amount of money needed to keep them there and the money should have been put into economy development. With India's economy slow down who is happy, China, haha :)) thank you, India served both US led western and China very well, only sacrifices India itself.
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Indian army is a very primitive army, all they have is like 50 yrs ago, with army soldiers with rifles, some tanks, old guns, that is about all they have, Pakistan now has J10C, JF-17 Block III, they armed with PL12 air-air missile with longer range than Meteor, and also carry, CM302 anti ship missile, which has M 4 speed vs Brahmos's M3. and CH-4 attacking drones which has been sold hundreds in middle east in over 1000 real battle, with kill ratio over 96%, India has no attacking drones, even US wont sell it to India, all India tanks gun positions will only targets for CH-4 and also with a brigade of "Strategic supporting unite" PLA stationed in Pakistan, provide radar, satellite, anti air, anti missile, anti electron-magnetic warfare support, Indian army has no concept of them, haha :)) Indian army can only talk, cannot fight. all they have is a big mouth, same as people in here, only talk BS, cannot provide any details, pity losers. as usual.
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he is full of BS, in Pangong Tsu?? before Indian army could patrol all the way to Finger 8, now? cannot pass Finger 3. On Pongong Tsu China has built a bridge (a pair, two directions) from north to the south, since good road in north, with the bridge, China can send heavy tanks directly in front of Chushul which is at the south bank of Pongong Tsu,
In 1962, November 19, Nehru wrote a letter to JFK begging for help, "In the east sector, equals 2 divisions of Indian army were surrounded, not sure if they can withdraw successfully to the south of Tezpur headquarter. In the west sector, the Chinese army has broken the defense line in Chushul, there is no effective defense line anymore before Leh"
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Modi flies with his $1.1 billion Boeing 777 dream liner India Air One all over the world, left India with global hunger index 107, income less than Bangladesh, 5.77 million malnutrition kids, trains fly into the air, bridge collapse 2 times in building. Manipur in burning, manufacturing job reduced from 53 million to 27 million, more foreign companies moved out of India than moving in Xi travel with a rented Air China passenger plane, to make China the largest industry country in the world, with manufacturing output more than the US, JP, Germany, India and Australia combined
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Modi traveled out of India for over 70 times with his $1.1 billion Boeing 777 dream liner, at the same time, leave India with global hunger index 107, average income lower than Bangladesh, with the world largest poverty population, New Delhi is the 2nd most polluted capital in the world, and with Manipur is still burning
Modi's US agenda
1 tell US how India trains fly into the air and lost almost 1000 human lives,
2. tell US how India giant bridge collapse 2 times in building and wasted huge amount of money, 3. Tell US how successfully get to global hunger index 107
4. tell US how to get the average income lower than Bangladesh under him.
5. tell US how to get Delhi most polluted capital in the world.
6. tell US how to lost to China in border, as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ..........."
Indians like to say India ranks 4th economy,
1. rank does not meant anything, for example, number 1 100, number 2 99, 3 97. number 4 can be 3 or 5.
2. you have no enough food, no matter with inflation or not
3. your GDP is the 3.5 % of the world in 1950, now it is the same 3.5% after 73 years, so fastest is just a lie
4. prediction never accurate 7.2 only in your dreams
5. Make in India is just an empty slogan, actually nothing is made in India.
6. More foreign companies moves out of India than moving into India for the past 5 yrs
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Useless for China, we will not fight you in the sniper range, but all long range. BVR, on ground mainly, when in WVR, all you see are T96B, T99A, Type 15 tanks, sniper has no use to them.
India to China is always with a mis conception, always think China will fight India in a position to shoot with rifles, that is not the way PLA fight, India never learn, in 1962 war, in the eastern section, the first stage war for 7th Brigade, China started the attack from flanks, and got in the back side, within 24 hours, the 7th Brigade was gone with Brigadier John Dalvi captured. for the second stage war, India sent major army along the road from Bamdila, ...................towards Tawang, PLA, again, did not start attack from the front, but sent troops via Bailey Trail to go around the back of Indian army, completely destroyed the 4 th army. After that, PLA went down the road, next stop is Tespur, the local Tespur officials all run away, Tespur bank burned all the Indian currency in a hurry.
In the next war, this will be repeated, the difference, we will not withdraw, but stay.
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India cannot take good care of itself, how can it manage the world affairs??
1.India had by far the largest number of zero-food children (6.7 million), which is almost half of all zero-food children in the 92 countries included in this Harvard study.
2.74.1% of Indians unable to afford a healthy diet: FAO ReportReport provides startling figures of country’s position on malnutrition and stunted growth
3. with globe hunger index 111, 6th from the last one.
4. India’s Income Inequality Is Now Worse Than Under British Rule, New Report Says
5. Mumbai has the India most billionaires (297 of them) at the same time, Dharavi is a residential area in Mumbai, Maharashtra, India. It has often been considered to be one of the world's largest slums. Dharavi has an area of just over 2.39 square kilometres (0.92 sq mi; 590 acres) and a population of about 1,000,000.,
6. India has approximately 12 666 377 child labourers total. Uttar Pradesh, a state in northern India, has 19,27,997 child labourers. Delhi, the capital of India, has over 1 million child labourers.
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Recently, I revisited the Chinese newspaper and CCP's mouthpiece, "People's Daily," from 1962 before the war. There were numerous warnings and reports of the Indian army shooting and killing many PLA soldiers, as well as multiple protests from China regarding India's military planes violating Chinese airspace. this space invasion from India to China all the way from 1960s to the end of 1990s, ...today, none, only showed Indian army was beaten, as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ..........."
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S. Jaishankar is the original designer for Modi's anti-China pro western, mainly USA policy. It is in the right time for the US, so US welcomed this policy very much. However, how this policy get India?? nothing. US did not give India anything in real except with only oral support, Quad is mainly for USA's interest in SCS, nothing to do India, at least nothing benefit India is any realistic way, except make China put more army at the border with India which in turn make more pressure to India's defense. in the time that India should pay more attention to its internal development, Jaishankar made India wasted resources and time on not essential thing, created unnecessary tensions with China. This is one of the reasons that Bangladesh will catch up and surpass India in average income per capita while only a few years ago Bangladesh's average income was only 40% of India's. In 2021, according to IMF, India will get 8.8% growth, however, due to its growth in 2020 is -10.3%, so the India's 2021 total GDP ($2.79 Trillion) will be less than India's total GDP in 2019 ($2.85 Trillion). at the same time China's GDP will be from $14.43 Trillion in 2019, to $15.8 Trillion in 2021, or from 5.0 times of India's GDP in 2019 jump to 5.66 time of India's GDP in 2021.
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In Indian culture that more important is not what is the truth itself, but who said what is the truth, for other countries, it is seeing is believing, for India it is saying is believing. that is why Indians here are so unhappy with HT said only 4 killed for PLA, but 20 in Indian army. PLA released 10 officers, among them, there was a Lieutenant Colonel and 3 major colonels, others are captains and lieutenants, how to explain that? they do not care. beside the killed Colonel Babu. How many PLA captured by Indian army? 0. hah :)) how to explain 200 more soldiers released by PLA, as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ...........", they do not know.
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1.EEZ is not your territory, 2. distance does not determine the ownership of a place such as an island. 3. the island belongs to China, does not need to go too far into history, it was set up by ROC (now in TW) in 1947 by 11 dashed lines (now 9 dashed line), PRC inherited it and will defend it, if you can win, then it will be yours, other than that, we will hold the islands, simple.
The 2016 South China Sea tribunal was a complete joke. The arbitral tribunal was formed by a group of civilians and is not a UN institution. For an arbitral tribunal to function, both parties must agree to participate and be willing to accept the decision beforehand. However, in the case of the 2016 South China Sea tribunal, China never agreed to anything, never attended the tribunal, and therefore has no obligation or responsibility to comply with any of its rulings concerning China. It was a total waste of time and money for the Philippines.
now Finos may keep crying
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Traditionally Hindus were the inhabitants in Indian plain, live in hot weather conditions at the low land, Himalaya's for Nepali and Tibetans which was with the same ancestors as with Han Chinese, Hindus were not fighters, always beaten at the mountain by Nepali and Tibetans, and from north by Aryans, Persians , Afghanistans, Turks, Monguls, later, from South by British, it was British got today's map of India, not by Hindus. India now just want to inherit their colonial master illegally claimed territories.
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you are making AMCA, before it even out of paper, it has been out of date already, now South Korea is selling its 5 th g fighter, Turkey's 5th G fighter with better engines F110, much better than your F414. Just as your Tejas, you will not be able to sell any to other country, and it will not be a match to any other 5th fighter, let alone compare to J20, which has been practice, modified, upgraded, for 11 years.
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Congress is a party of those educated from west elite group of India with western values, out of touch of Indian ordinary people so not very popular in India, BJP represent most backwards religion and culture of India fits to most of ordinary Indians, with no science, concept of logic, advanced culture in it, so both are toxic to India, but hey, it is your country, ruin it as much as you want, since you are the largest and mother of all BS democracy :))
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@SIDDHARTH9245 Indians still do not get the concept of stealthy means, it is not they cannot be detected, or perfect, the most important is the difference in RCS, as long as it has a detection difference than your jet, it will shoot your jet down, so kid, do not say J20 is not real stealthy, only shows you do not know how it works, Rafale without weapon bay, with 6 missiles its RCS is 10, J20, with embedded weapon bay, the RCS is much lower, less than 0.1. you can say it is not as good as F22 or even F35, which is fine, but important is it much less than Rafale sure to Tejas, so there will be a radar detection difference, which makes J20 can find Rafale or Tejas earlier and lock and fire missile first, then leave the area. understand now? kid go to learn first,,sht up your big mouth for some time?
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you will fail to fight China, not because of Nehru, or Gandi, or Modi,
The most basic reason is the anti China attitude of the majority of whole Indians, Nehru or Gandhi or Moid , or future leader of this country, all only using their specific anti China policy to correctly reflect the feeling and attitude of most Indians, this is true democracy. Democracy is just a way of managing a country, itself does not represent right or wrong, there is no guarantee that 1.4 billion people cannot make fatal wrong decisions for their country or their nation.
It is not Nehru, It is not Modi, it is YOU, each and every one of you, you are responsible for the failure (of course the success , if you have any) of your country.
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if you check the historical photos in 1962, you would find striking similarities between 1962 and 2020, before the war, India army dressed up nicely, walked with their heads on to the sky, marched to the front to fight PLA, .............after war, they were sent back on stretcher or walked , crippled with bandages everywhere, or was sent back from PLA POW camps in Tibet, the 7th Brigadier B General John Dalvi was one of them of 4000.
as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ..........."
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US will never be India's real ally, so do not be so happy about it, US would do the same to India in Indian Ocean. There are reasons that US will never be India's ally, 1 India is too poor and too weak, it does not have too much use to US, only a big burden, 2. on the other hand, India does not listen to US, such as ignore US's sanction order to Russia but keep buying Russian oil and in UN refused to condemn Russia 's war on Ukraine. By the end, Russia is not India's ally either. so India is actually totally isolated without any other powerful countries to depend on. you are on your own, we will have war soon, we will take our South Tibet back soon
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Indians make it sounds like they are dominate tourists in Maldives, actually the Chinese are the number 1 tourist group in Maldives,
from 2019-------------2011, numbers
1 China 284,029 283,116 306,530 324,326 359,514 363,626 331,719 229,550 198,655
2 India 166,030 90,474 83,019 66,955 52,368 45,587 38,014 31,721 30,978
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Indians do not know how to fight a war, they do not even understand, to fight war, it takes long and hard time and work for preparing it, China is doing it, India? does not even have any idea how to prepare a war, on surface China is preparing war to take TW against US military, and once this is done, the huge preparation left over to the US will be transferred to India direction, so you can ask yourselves a simple question, is Indian army better than the US army??
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It is a tradition for Indians, if they lost in a war, or a battle, they do not think why, but first to make up fake victories, of lost a jet with a pilot captured, they know they cannot deny that,they will make up something to get their face back, such as they shot down 2 PAF jets, pity is they cannot provide any evidence, it is the same for 2020 Galwan, they lost 20, they just made up to claim they got 45,again cannot provide any real evidence, but only "someone said that"
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it is a national nature of this country, the most important is what they think, they have no concept of what is opinion and what is the reality, what is truth, to them, they are all the same, they have no concept of evidence, as long as they think, they feel they dream, then that must be correct,
in Greek concept of argument, it consists of 2 parts, 1) Opinion, such as Brahmos is junk to China AC, 2) evidence to support this opinion, eg. Brahmos with range is only 290 km and speed at Mach 3. but China carrier jet J 15 carries YJ 12 with range 450-600 km with speed at Mach 4. so these 2 parts formed an argument, that is Brahmos is totally useless against China' s AC attacking group. but for India, the argument is with only one part, that its Brahmos will beat (since they do not have anything else anyway :)) all China ACs, then that is it, since they think that, so what must be true, they do not need to tell why, and actually they cannot tell why, ahah :) )hah:)) so it is totally meaningless to argue with them, whatever they say, just put a photo, as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ..........."
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India under know nothing BJP made biggest mistake for IAF should be they canceled Su57 project paid Russia $300 million for breaching contract and in the era of stealthy fighter bought Rafale none stealthy fighter with $250 million each ($88 m each for FAF) (F35 for US is only about $100 million each). If India keep working with Russia, not only India would have a stealthy fighter, but also can get a powerful AL 41 engine with max power output 173 kn, not like Rafale's tiny engine (M 88 max power out put 75 kn), so even now India wants to work with France for new engine with max power 123 kn, not even as good as Russia's AL 31 with max power out put 143 kn. we are very happy for India to make mistakes all the time. Seems there is no one , not a single one, in this country, knows what is good for India.
seems for Indians, the most important is to show off, not the real air battle.
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Hinduism, comparing to all other major religions in the world, is the most primitive kind of religion, it cannot be even qualified as religion, since it is not a complete system, but a complex formed by combination of all Indian fairy tales, and stories and dreams and all kinds BS put together, religion development from multiple gods, and became with a single God by Egyptian Pharah Akennaten 3300 years ago, then Jews worked in Egypt adapted it and made God for Jews, then Roman found Jesus about 100 year after Jesus died, and adapted and developed Christian, but Hinduism still worship over 200 million all kinds of gods, totally shows its is not qualified as a religion. but some kind life style of Indians, and now BJP and Modi trying to enforce this kind old life style to all the people live in India in 21st century, it is sure it will not work.
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for Indians, when they face China's stealthy jet, they just say, J20 is fake, and can be detected, by Su 30 MKI, which is totally BS, what if J20 is real stealthy?? they do not want to think about it, since the kill ratio for 5th gen fighter to 4th gen fighter could be 1:100, total Rafale India has is only 36, not only enough for 1 J20 to kill to play with. Now, as this channel reported, China has put multiple J20 in Hotian airport near Ladakh.
Unlike India, recently, US formed an "blue airforce" team with F35s to imitate China's' J20 to practice how to fight China, India is different, they just believe J20 would not work, haha :) for them what they believe MUST be true, impossible for them to be wrong, if you asked them what is your evidence? they have no concept why need evidence, their believe cannot be wrong.
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you treat every thing as religion, for religion, only thing needed is believe, there is no data support or any evidence needed,
in reality, there is nothing to be proud of.
2014 India GDP $2 trillion, now $3.4 trillion, for 9 years increased $1.4 trillion under modi, China, 2014 GDP $10 trillion, now $18.2 trillion. increased $8.2 trillion. in 2014, China GDP is 10/2 = 5 times of India's, now 18.2/3.4=5.35 times, so with the "fastest growth" of India under BJP/Modi, the gap of India to China getting larger? hah :))
2014 gdp per capita Bangladesh $ 1108.5, and in 2022 $2687. For India in 2014, GDP per capita was $1559.86,. under BJP/Modi, 2022 India GDP per capita is $2301 . now lower than Bangladesh.
why so proud of a country with global hunger index 107? even worse than north Korea with 97?
in military front, as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious......."’’
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fist fighting is not real war, it is just an excuse to start a real war, you are in a trap, but your extreme high nationalism let you jump it willingly, with the dream as you all usually have, to win against China, good. feel very good now, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,only cry after the war. haha 😁😁😁
you should now consider how to become a king of a small independent state, or tribe, that is what India will become after the war, 562 states or tribes.
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When China and US showed the "democracy" is no longer working (in different way, respectively) , India holds its own distorted "democracy" left from British. when "freedom" totally showed selfishness nature and total failure in control the pandemic, India is still holding it and does not know how to treat its pandemic seriously even "Science"paper on Jan 06 2022 showed India has lost 3.2 million lives due to covid till September 2021, when the world is on science and technology and logical way of thinking, India firmly holds its rotten to the core Hinduism which is filled with total BS. when the world of people has long time before sent the nazi into trash cane and let it rot in there, India is picking up a nazi from it and setting it up as its national hero. This is a country has got and gets and is getting everything wrong, and shows every where in every way in real life in reality, however, none can see them but all live in their fantasy dreams. Every country may make some mistake, but very rare as this country which makes all mistakes and never get anything right. just amazing, the reality, the data, the real life in slums, all shows it is in total mess, but the people are still so happy about it and still dreaming superpower 2020
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the turning point to support what I just commented is at 2019 Barakok, with a total lose of India, to save face, India invented a lie about shot down 2 F16s,
if compare the lost for both countries,
on Pakistan side, 6 pine trees knocked down, a crow got k.ed. India side, 1 Mig 21 down, pilot captured, 7 lost in a helicopter crash.
Due to this sad result and miserable defeat,India dare not to try another "surgical strike" (which IAF tried to imitate USAF but failed terribly and became just a joke).
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it is very easy to understand the situation, only do some simple number, the central valley by Meitei, with population density 923 per sq km, the surrounding hill, with density only 57 by other people, with the power of Meitei, has they want to try to grab land in hills, got resistant, so they burn church, accuse them not real Indians
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This is the trick of the BJP in attempting to get elected—playing the card of nationalism, with anti-China and anti-Pakistan sentiments being major components. It's nothing new. This tactic involves portraying the Indian government as tough and strong, bravely confronting Pakistan and China, in order to cultivate a superpower image among the Indian people. However, all of these are illusions, not solutions for India. Over the past 10 years, this approach has not harmed China in any way. Instead, it has only led China to increase its military presence near the Line of Actual Control (LAC). Consequently, India has had to counter this with very limited resources, purchasing more weapons and deploying troops to the LAC, thus tightening the funds needed for infrastructure and production.
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Nehru knew before the war that both South Tibet and Aksai chin are Chinese territory but he kept pushing his "east forward" policy anyway, with the wish that China would not care, and then once made it a reality China would have to accept it, since India did this to Goa and worked. He ordered his almighty army generals "Kick the Chinese out!" and then, he left to go abroad to show off as the leader of non-alliance, then the sad news went to him, Indian army got total smashed by PLA in both eastern and western sectors, with wet in his pants, he wrote letter to US President Kennedy with tears begged US help. The defeat totally made him collapsed, in just a few years, this arrogant, bluffy, full of vanity Indian PM gone, left a legacy for current Indians, today,
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India should realize, what you cannot get from battle field, it is impossible for you to get from talking table, only way for you is to prepare for war, so you can free Tibet, or whatever, you want to free in China, we will just take our South Tibet back, and at the same time , get all your NE states independent, and turn your country back to 562 Princely states or tribes.
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while Modi is enjoying all these BS meetings, Xi is playing "GO" to seal India completely.
India invented chess, to get the king or queen to win, China invented "go", to set up points to surround the opposite let it nowhere to go. China is doing exactly according to "go", which has already surrounded India on land, just check a map, China with very good relationship with all the countries (except tiny Bhutan) around India, now with all central Asian countries, and also with Iran and Turkey. India? only jump into western and US as a .............. which cannot even save Ukraine, with land sealed, now China's navy is getting more and more into Indian ocean, to seal India on the sea too.
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We, or Russia, we do not need military alliance, only weak country, like India, needs military alliance, however, no other country, including US, want to be military alliance with India, since no other country wants to fight China just for India, true story. haha :))
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Modi is put India into a debt trap, just Indians do not realize it, India's "fast" growth largely stems from infrastructure development, including airports, roads, the Sela Tunnel, bridges, and more. This rapid GDP growth raises the question: who foots the bill for all these developments? The answer lies in debt. Despite not being a part of the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), India is the largest borrower from the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB), an institution associated with the BRI. According to India's perspective, borrowing from the AIIB represents a "debt trap," as it puts the country in a precarious financial position. While borrowing money for infrastructure projects may seem acceptable, the crucial question remains: do these infrastructures generate enough revenue to cover their costs, including interest?
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west blocked China since the day one of founding PRC, until late 1970s to 80s, but at this time period India got all the " Capital, Technolgy and production facilities." from west, what you got?? nothing, but almost get bankrupted in 1990, with the same conditions later, started at the same level with India, now, China GDP is 6 times of India, so tell me, why India with all "Capital, Technolgy and production facilities"., cannot achieve what China can??
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In 1962 war, facing attacking PLA, at Tawang (the Indian army defending Tawang at the time, did not fire a shot to PLA, when they heard PLA was getting closer to them, they just all run away from Tawang, haha, how brave and glorious they were) , lots Indian army just fled into Bhutan, since PLA respected Bhutan's sovereignty so they just let them run, no bother to catch them, even though, PLA captured 4000 Indian army, with Brigadier General John Dalvi with them, or it would be many more.
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Once they say something, once they dream something, one they want something, as long as they said so, for them, it is done, then they are all very happy, they won already before any fire is shot, .................then after some time, since nothing happened, they will say again, for them, they have another victory already, ..........this cycles goes on. .............this this an army of joke, this is a country of joke, this is nation (which is the most defeated nation in the world history) of joke.
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it is very strange for this people, for them, no evidence needed, if they say what that must be it, haha :)) if they say they shot down an F16, that is it, truth, no evidence needed, if they say they ki...led 45 PLA in Galwan, that is it, no evidence needed,it is truth, haha , so funny, you can never argue with this kind people , hah a:) as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ..........."
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very interesting stories on that area in 1962, With a map, you can explore some intriguing locations from 1962 moving down from the Himalayas or from north to south. Firstly, Namkachu, where the 7th brigade was annihilated in a single day, and Brigadier John Dalvi was captured. Secondly, Tawang, where the entire army fled without engaging in combat. Thirdly, Shyro-Jang, the site of a new defense line. The PLA scheduled their attack for 5:30 am, but the Indian Army decided to withdraw the night before upon learning that the PLA had encircled them at Bomdila. Fourthly, PLA troops at Bomdila prompted the Indian Army to flee into the mountains. When only seven PLA soldiers searched along Road 13 from south to north, they encountered a large troop descending from Shyro-Jang via Sela and opened fire. The entire Indian Army halted, uncertain of the PLA's strength down the road. With heavy equipment such as trucks, tanks, cars, and artillery, they opted to abandon them and escape into the mountains armed only with light weapons, avoiding any confrontation. Lastly, Tezpur saw panic as news of the PLA's advance spread. Local banks burned all Indian currency, and city officials fled, fearing the impending threat.
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why thank Russia so much, they will simple take 50% profit away from India, business is business, last time, Brahmos sold for $300 million, assume all profit no cost, Russia took $150 million away, only $150 million left, India paid France $250 million each for a Rafale, so $150 million can let India buy a pair of wings of Rafale, maybe include a tail as bonus.
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In 1962, the Chinese army occupied the small town of Bomdila, which was situated at the rear of the Indian army, cutting them off and surrounding them from Sela onwards with about two divisions surrounded by the Chinese, with no further defense line from there to Tezpur. Nehru addressed the nation by AIR stating, "Our hearts go out with the Assamese." This statement frightened the people of Assam, as they believed the central government had abandoned them. Consequently, bankers burned Indian currency, and Tezpur government officials fled. This illustrates the severity of the situation Nehru faced against the Chinese army.
However, Modi's handling of similar situations is even more concerning. While Nehru at least put up a fight, Modi did not even dare to mention China's name during the 2020 incident.
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India is country without any future, no hope at all, due to the large size of its population, sure it will grow, to meet the needs for the domestic market, however, that is about all, this country has no potential to grow faster since it has to import all energy source it needs or will make this country's pollution worst, secondly, this country cannot make anything that can be compete in the world market. Without it, India cannot get a trade balance but always with a huge deficit, no new technology will come out from India since India's R&D input is very low, the whole country with R&D budget as a private company of China, Huawei, that is $22 billion. For India agriculture, India has the world largest arable land, 25% more than China, but with yield less than half of China's, the reason is due to lack of industrialization, and lacks of oil, India needs to import almost all fertilizers from other countries, especially from Russia, with war, the price rise 300%. India has not money input into basic construction of agriculture infrastructure still mainly depends on natural climate for agriculture production, with climate change with more drought and floods, will great affect the already very yield of grains, with the rapid population growth and slow slow in industry, large number of youth of India have no jobs. ...and they are getting old rapidly, the country then in turn need to feed them.
Ever since the founding of the People's Republic of China, China was blocked by western and US for trade and technology, only depend on Soviet Union, but since 1960, this also interrupted and stopped due to China and Soviet Union broke up even had war in 1969. During all this time, since 1947, India was never blocked by any western and eastern a good friend of both camps. until 1998 for Nuke, India enjoyed all the time for support from all over the developed countries with money and technology, what India achieved from all these? nothing, haha :) not much better than China at this time at all, all about same, until China opened up and rapidly threw India to the back , for all the time, Indians enjoyed total freedom of BSting had a very happy time, still like that today. hah :) such an amazing nation.
what is today, it is your nature, created by God, nothing can change anything, it is your fate, history showed, you only can be ruled by others, if you rule yourselves, you would make it a mess, as now.
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After a few years in India media, I found this country, this nation has totally no hope and no future, since the problem is not just a few policies, but whole over all political system (copied from west, never worked for India) , society (with a few extremely rich vs over 800 million extremely poor) , culture (full of trashes from past thousands of years) , religion (cannot be qualified as a real religion but just BS), ideology (also just copied from west) , the nature of this nation...........are totally all wrong, but at the same time, the people of this nation not only not recognize but all so proud of them, one example is Indian media, totally unlike what Buddhism , which the core is kindness, which means with best wishes to others, no matter friends or not, but now in Indian media, they are full of the opposite, with evil wishes to the other countries and people they do not like. by doing this, they want to prove that they are better, haha :)) and Indians not only believe all the lies, but loved them and therefore feel good about themselves, since they feel they live in a country that is much better than other countries, even their global hunger index is even worse, they chose to ignore it, haha :) As for the clean city streets IN NK, and full of garbage in India? well, that is nothing, , 75 yrs showed the political system is not working at all, but they just do not see it, waiting for another 75 yr to prove it is right? well, you better pray if you still have another 75 yrs. the list goes on and on.......................
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@bmmilind4333 you do not understand, from ancient China, a group of people, as long as they live in the today's China proper, they were all Chinese, although they might not be Han Chinese, the war between, among all the different groups, were civil war of China, unlike in India, the intruders from other part by invading India, such Timur was from Afghanistan, .............especially British occupied India, colonized India, that was not the situation in China, the real invasion was by Japan in 1930 to 1945, since Japanese was not a group of people lived in China proper, so that was an invasion, however, Japan never conquered the whole China. Japan never formed a central government in China, unlike British Raj
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@mrinamimi5634 Good to know, Every Indian should watch youtube "India's Stand on China Border Irrational but Nehru's Handling Was Irresponsible: Avtar Singh Bhasin" and read the book, Avtar Singh Bhasin's braveness of admitting that for all these years it was India, especially Nehru, made mistakes and caused unnecessary war and bad relationship btw the two countries, made me into tears.
Nehru knew before the war that both South Tibet and Aksai chin are Chinese territory but he kept pushing his "east forward" policy anyway, with the wish that China would not care, and then once made it a reality China would have to accept it, since India did this to Goa and worked. He ordered his almighty army generals "Kick the Chinese out!" and then, he left to go abroad to show off as the leader of non-alliance, then the sad news went to him, Indian army got total smashed by PLA in both eastern and western sectors, with wet in his pants, he wrote letter to US President Kennedy with tears begged US help. The defeat totally made him collapsed, in just a few years, this arrogant, bluffy, full of vanity Indian PM gone, left a legacy for current Indians, today,
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it is a tradition and habit that India overestimate itself, nobody really cares actually,
"Switzerland praises China-Brazil peace plan for Ukraine
By Emma Farge
September 28, 20244:04 PM CDTUpdated 19 hours ago"
China and Brazil have been working together on a peace plan for Ukraine, rallying support primarily from Global South nations. As of a recent meeting, 17 countries have participated in discussions, including Indonesia, South Africa, and Turkey. This initiative focuses on preventing further escalation, avoiding the use of weapons of mass destruction, and protecting nuclear power plants.
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Under this gem of India (read it as trash of India), India is getting more isolated daily in its neighborhood, so it tried to jump into west US arms for protection, however, US just upgraded PAF F16, send diplomats to Azade Kashmir, block Indians visa to US but only take 2 days for Chinese.............not even invite India into AUKUS, no where to go, he went to Moscow, Putin did not bother to see him, Russia is a friend of China with no limitation, this trash of India with only a big mouth , BS whole day, get India with no friend or any worthy friend at all.
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history showed Mao Zedong and Zhou Enlai knew the world situation very well and they were masters of war, since as Sun Tze said 2000 years ago in the art of war, , to win a war needs to know the time situation (heaven, ) the geological situation (earth), the army situation (human), Mao and Zhou clearly and correctly judge all these factor, while Nehru, compare to Mao and Zhou, just like a dum..bb, almost knew nothing,
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So it is for counter China threat?? hah :) what a joke, India is a poor country, however, for the vanity of fake nationalism, they like to waste money on total useless things, hah :) Aircraft carrier may be still useful for superpower like US and China, it has totally no use for a poor and weak country as India. what for?? you cannot use it to fight your number 1 enemy, China, with China's J 35 stealthy jet on China AC, your Mig 29 k has not chance to get near China fleet. with China long range hypersonic anti ship missile YJ 21, your AC will be in the bottom of Indian ocean in just a few minutes if war start.
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The whole thing between India and China is based on India trying to inherit what British left illegal claims over China's territory, Nehru knew it, but he chose to fight China, and lost, today, Modi government is doing the same again,read Indian former diplomat, Avtar Singh Bhasin, book "Nehru, Tibet and China" to know the details. The problem is Indians just do not care. They refuse to listen to the fact, they do not care about the truth in history. They have no concept of reasoning. There is just no other choice left, except using force to settle the whole thing.
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@Himanshu Kaushik develop my as...................s More than half of the Union’s total budget is made up of debt, and few investments are being made in profitable industries. More than Rs 17 lakh crore, or 45% of the budget size, was generated by borrowing out of the government’s overall budget of more than Rs 39 lakh crore. Additionally, the Centre is in the process of selling off some of its assets, like LIC, to raise Rs 75,000 crore.
ratio of india's public debt to gdp likely to scale a new high in fy21 | business standard news
This is a sign that the Center is approaching a damaging condition. We need to analyse the Sri Lankan crisis in this context. Over half of the budget of the Indian government is borrowed. The tax is not being properly collected. The centre is not increasing its investments in the industries that are productive. Additionally, the prices of fuel and kerosene have seen a considerable increase over the years, and if these keep on rising, India will soon face a food and fuel crisis like that of Sri Lanka.
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it is a dilemma for India, on the one hand, Indian government put G20 on tourism in Kashmir trying to show the world the Kashmir is a peaceful place, on the other hand, India send huge amount of army and police force to crack down against ashmiri human rights defenders by just label them as terrorists. so it slaps its own face, shows and proves Kashmir is not a place with peace.well, seems no peaceful place in India, in NE Manipure is burning, in the central area rural , Maoist guerrillas are fighting, where there is injustice, and oppression by the corrupted central and local government , there will be uprising and resistance of the people,
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the former Indian diplomat, Avtar Singh Bhasi in his book 2021, "Nehru, Tibet and China" Nov 2021, Amazone admitted Nehru knew before the war that both South Tibet and Aksai chin are Chinese territory but he kept pushing his "east forward" policy anyway, with the wish that China would not care, and then once made it a reality China would have to accept it, since India did this to Goa and worked. He ordered his almighty army generals "Kick the Chinese out!" and then, he left to go abroad to show off as the leader of non-alliance, then the sad news went to him, Indian army got total smashed by PLA in both eastern and western sectors, with wet in his pants, he wrote letter to US President Kennedy with tears begged US help. The defeat totally made him collapsed, in just a few years, this arrogant, bluffy, full of vanity Indian PM gone, left a legacy for current Indians, today,
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Doklam now is not only with all kinds of buildings, helicopter landing pats, hospital, store, artillery positions, hundreds of military equipment, including tanks and long range artillery, .........what India can do now? haha :) nothing, at least nothing to China so India go to ask Bhutan to kick Chinese out, Bhutan told India, the Chinese are not in our territory, all those military equipment are not in Bhutan, haha :)) face it and deal it by yourself, haha :))
Siliguri Chicken neck is 80 km from Doklam, our PHL 03 long range rocket artillery with range of 140 km, totally cover all Sililguri, with all 33rd army position, by destroy Teesta River Bridge will completely cut off the supply line to the NE states, PLA will attack Tawang along road 13, directly take Tispur and destroy the 4 th army located in there.
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China now already offer to export YJ21 E, hypersonic missile, in need, Pakistan can have it any time, you have no edge in anything over Pakistan, let alone China, it is your fate, all you are doing is wasting your money, but hey, it is your money, waste it as much as you like. at the same time keep your global hunger index 107 climbing the ladder each year.
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China's arms sales got an experience, the buyers, usually do not put the price first, they still prefer the features first, and willing to pay higher price, so, it is not easy to get into the arms sell market, since it cost huge to make some in the investment, but may not get sold a single one to others, such as Tejas.
"China emerges as an arms supplier of choice for many Middle East countries, say analysts" _________July 22 2022
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under Modi, the gap between India and China widened, in 2014, India GDP was $2 trillion, China was $10 trillion, difference is $8 trillion, in 2023, India GDP is $3.73 trillion, China is $17. 7 trillion, the difference is $13.97 trillion
100 years ago, China was like India: poor and backward. Despite being hailed as the first democracy in Asia and the world's largest democracy, these titles did not change anything for China. Instead, China was bullied by Western powers and invaded by Japan. The most advanced intellectuals in China at the time, represented by Mao Zedong, Zhou Enlai, and others, came to realize that Western-style 'democracy' would never work for China. They saw the path of Russia's 1917 revolution as the only way for China's future. They fought for it and founded the People's Republic of China (PRC) in 1949. Since then, China has been on the right path for the country and has emerged as a true superpower in the world.
Indians may not believe it and may not realize that their world's largest democracy is just a name with no real use. However, since India will not undergo an overall revolution like China did, India will never catch up with China. It is not a matter of Congress or BJP; there is no difference, and neither will work. this country, therefore, has no future, no hople
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the difficulty for India is , India's basic policy is treat China as number 1 enemy, this fits to US policy well, India and US got the common stand on this point, however, India treats Russia as a friend, but US treats Russia as an enemy, so on this point, India and US foreign policy splits, currently the war in Ukraine is the focal point for US policy, so now US and India cannot get along well on this issue. It is a very good time for China to take this opportunity, to put more pressure on India, such as to send jets into so-called India space, to see what will happen.
This game is lots of fun. haha :)
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someone complained, any time China got troubles inside China, China sent army to beat Indian army, that is so true, the question is, yes, that is what we do, so what can you do about it, just got beaten again? as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ..........." any better ideas?
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The McMahon Line, drawn around 1913, was not even implemented by the British but was only used as a bargaining chip to gain interests in Tibet. The central government of China under the Qing dynasty, as well as the Republic of China (ROC) and the People's Republic of China (PRC), neither agreed to nor signed the treaty, and it was almost forgotten. However, it was brought up again in 1935 but still didn't result in any action. It was only in February 1951 that the Indian army marched into Tawang and ousted the local Tibetan government. And due to the civil war in China the People's Liberation Army (PLA) only reached Lhasa in October 1952.
"Arunachal Pradesh Chief Minister Pema Khandu today announced that his government will set up a memorial for Major Bob Khathing, an Army officer who commanded a small team of soldiers to establish India's administrative control in Tawang, which borders China, in 1951.
Prema Khandu said that the foundation stone of the memorial will be laid at Tawang on February 14, the day when Major Bob Khathing is believed to have hoisted the Indian Tricolour there for the first time 70 years ago."
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you do not know China at all, go to learn some history, China would let you have some fun, then to retaliate, so not feel happy too early, who laughs the last, laughs the best. In 1962, it was the same, Indian army took some territory inside China, Nehru just waved his arms and ordered Indian army "go, kick the Chinese out", then he just left to enjoy himself in Sri Lanka, then ??? haha :) go to learn what happened, 4000 Indian soldiers captured, including 7th Brigadier BG John Dalvi, all in POW camps in Tibet, do you know how many PLA India captured? guess? let me help : 0 😁😁😁
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what a joke, ha, check YJ 12, faster than Brahmos which is M3, YJ 12 M4, already exported to Pakistan called CM 302, launch from JF-17 or J10C, China YJ 12 400 km range, Pakistan version CM 302 300 km range to meet the requirement for exporting missiles.
this is not a news, at least 2 yrs ago, DRDO already tested it , put Brahmos on Su 30 MKI, land based is 3 tons, they took out 500 kg fuel, to make it 2.5 ton, to it is lighter version, with Su30 MKI get it to over 14000 meter to launch, so to make up the lost fuel, to keep it with the same range of 300 km
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India is a nation only believe in strength and power, they do not care about history, about law, about peace, they want to get whatever they can. Goa was a colony of Portugal, sure it should be turned back to India, but India did not even bother to talk first, instead indirectly sent army to get it back by force. Compare to China, China could do the same to Hongkong after founding of PRC in 1949, unlike India, China respected the history, so China waited until 1979, total 30 years, to get HK back peacefully to China.
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it is very good, you are on your own, which means, you are on your own, so when you need help, no other country will help you, you are poor weak country, you will need help, you cannot stand on your own, but you are on your own, as long as you do not expect others to help you are fine unless you are beaten, but not like Nehru wrote letter with tears to JFK to beg US help
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it is recorded in the ancient Chinese history book, 1600 years ago, a deputy envoy to India, named Wang Xuance, went to India for his job, only found there was a coup, the old king was kil ed and the new one want to ki. Wang, Wang escaped, went to Tibet, the King of Tibet lent Wang 2000 Tibetan army and 7000 Nepali army and to defeated 30000 Indian army, arrested the new king and sent him back to capital of Tang to the emperor, the Emperor asked to make a stone statue with the Indian king kneeled in front of him. haha. true story.
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Indian people and the Chinese people have fundamentally different mindsets, ideologies, and values, shaped by thousands of years of cultural and religious traditions. For instance, Chinese intellectuals have long been troubled by the stark inequality between the rich and the poor, as reflected in the saying "朱门酒肉臭,路有冻死骨" (literally, "Behind mansions, delicacies rot, while on the streets, people freeze to death"). Written by Du Fu, AD 755 , 1269 years ago. They have strived for a more equitable society. In contrast, such inequality is often seen as a natural part of the social order in India. Not only rich think this way, the poor also think this way, therefore, there will not change in fundamentals in India like in China, and therefore, India will never be like China.
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When India sent all the major warships to the Somali sea to fight pirate, China sent more and more "spy" ships to the area near the coast of India to map the sea beds for the future use, and monitor Agni 5 test, , record its launching and flying speed, the altitude its flying and how many MIRV released and the speed and target area for each of them,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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it is in China side, what to talk about?? you may have 160 talks, we will just take the time to get ready to have build more roads, bridges, military camps, villages, artillery positions, bunkers, sending more heavy tanks, then we will have final talk with you,.............in Delhi!
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Indians here do not understand the basics of nuclear bomb, for MIRVs, you have to have thermal nuke warhead, since it will not work with fission warhead, for the atom bomb fatman, it weight 4.6 tons, with 20 kt. your Agni v can only have 1.5 tons, as you claimed you have 10 MIRVs, that is 150 kg each, haha :) assume you are smart you can do it, how each 1 will be less than 10 kt TNT,
for China and US, all nuclear warhead are thermal, got about 300 - 500 kt TNT, you have long way to go, do not expect MIRVs, first get your H bomb work, which is never.
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History repeat itself, in 50-60 last century, India tried to be a single polar in the world, as the leader in the none alliance movement, thought it was a powerful country, and with Nehru's "east forward " policy to challenge China by moving its army into China's territory, it had no Soviet Union nor the US at its aid, thought they could win by themselves, only got beaten miserably by China, so Nehru gave up his proud but wrote a letter with tears to JFK beg for the US's military help. haha :)) 2 year later after the war, Hehru passed away in misery due to the defeat by China, today, history is repeating, India again, thought it can just stand by itself, does not realize the danger it is facing, China insists all the time the 90000 sq km South Tibet is China's territory, by 2033, in 10 years, China will build 59 airports in Tibet, Tibet with only 2 million people, obviously it is not passenger planes, we will take South Tibet soon, so by the time, who will help India??? Russia certainly will not, beg the US again?? Then why the US would do it since this country does not care about the US??
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hahah :))
1. how many do you have?? First day using M777 you guys blew it up with your self made shells, haha :)) totally destroyed it, you buy it from US, for the similar guns we sold to the middle east countries (AU_4) ,
and Chinook + M777 will be very good target for our jet fighters to shoot them with our 300 km range PL 15 missile hah :)) since they will be too slow and too big.
2. we have PCL 181 truck gun, runs faster, do you know on China side in Lakakh it flat??
3. Su 30 is tooo old, China has much better ones, J10, J 11, J 16, J20, all much better than your Su30, Su30 MKI using PESA radar, all ours using AESA radar, and our air to air missile is at 100-300 km range, yours? about 80 km range, how can you fight with it to PLAAF, it is just good practice target for us.
4. brahmos? range only 290 km, haha:)) we have CJ 10 with range 2500 km, JF17 hypersonic missile (Mach 8-10) with 2 meter accuracy over 1500 km
kid go to learn the world was not stopped at 1990s. haha :))
one more thing for you to learn, check WS-2D which we exported to many countries, in different country with different names, range 100-400 km, you have nothing can match that.
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Beside mouth service, US do not give India any real meaningful help, for making nuclear submarine, they formed AUSUK, same for 5 G high tech, no India, this time US joint with JP to send a JP onto the moon, again, no India. but hey, you can still talk, ...tell the world how much you hate China, hhaa:)) >......... that is about all.
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Indians lies all the time, started with Nehru, as admitted by Indian former diplomat, Avtar Singh Bhasin. He said in his new book, that for all these years it was India, especially Nehru, made mistakes and caused unnecessary war and bad relationship btw the two countries. for example, the notorious McMahon line was just a proposal by the British, proposed to China for discussion and negotiation, none of the Chinese government accepted it, however, after Nehru took the power, he used it as the border, current GOI still insists this illegal line.
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Mao, in 1924, when he was 30, had already determined the way for the future of China, in his article at the time, he said, the first thing to do the land reform, to let farmers not just work for the landlords but for themselves, and it is a condition for the future industrialization. How true it is when we see it today compare to India, one problem amount many many is India has no land reform, with landlords control land, very difficult for India to get land from them for building factories, a South Korea company just due to that canceled the building a factory in India, and also due to it, Japan build high speed rail project delayed for so long.
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when India got independence, a rupee was a $, now? a $= 81.26 rupee. hahah :)) One reason for the rapid drop of India FER is India central bank is using it to buy rupee to prevent it drop too fast, however, due to the US raise interest rate, it does not work very well, usually with cheaper currency is not a bad things for an exporting country, such as China, since it will make buying goods from that country cheaper, but it is bad for a country with huge importing, such as India, since it will make buying from other countries more expensive.
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why laugh at northekorea to US? it is actually the same to India to China, Indians do not know anything about nukes, China's first H bomb was with 3 million tons TNT, India? does not have it, although they claim they have it, but max amount was 54 k t TNT, showed it was just a failed attempt. Secondly, India does not have any mobile nuclear missile as China's DF 26, DF 31 and DF 41, all India has is put Agni 5 on a tow cart, and can only launch it from certain fixed sites which are already targeted by China various missiles, in the first wave of war, they will be destroyed before firing, and China has multiple layers of anti ballistic missile system, from India to Beijing is 3300 km, from China to Delhi is 400 km, so if India dare to do it Delhi will be disappeared in about 5-10 min.
China has thermal nuclear warheads (if you know what that is) each one with about 300 kt TNT (if you know what means) India only has fission nuclear warheads (if you know what that means) with about 10-15 kt TNT, so each China's nuke head is about 30-20 times of India, let assume 20, western reported China has about 600 nuke warheads, India110 (assume them are true), then China has 20x600= 12000 equivalent vs 110 India has, yeah, good idea, let us play some nuke game, haha :))
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a country can only get rich by industrialization, India under Modi failed in this critical point, in 2014, India manufacturing output $307 billion, China $3.184 trillion, 10.37 times of India, under Modi, it only grew to $418 billion or increased $100 billion, China now is $5 trillion, 12 times of India, increased $1.8 trillion. New York time pointed out, with market occupied by China totally, it is not possible for India to go manufacturing hub way any more, well, there is no other way either
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check the record. for 20 yrs, India said numerous times that many many many ma..............ny countries interested, so far, only sold to Philliys with total $300 million, half of it sent to Russia, only left $150 million to India, we assume it all profit, with 0 cost, what $150 million can do? Rafale cost $250 million each for India, so with $150 million, India can buy a pair wings and a tail for Rafale,
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India is a very poor country, with average income less than Bangladesh, yet, the government just spend huge amount of tax payers money to buy extremely expensive and useless weapons, however in this mother of democracy and the largest democracy the people who paid for this huge money, the ordinary Indian people cannot do a thing about how the government waste their hard earned money, while at the same time India is at global hunger index 107 with 5.7 million kids in malnutrition, what a joke of this kind BS democracy. The worst is, if the weapon can fight China which is the purpose of buying them, in reality, they are totally useless against China more advanced weapons
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one characteristics of Indians is they like to express that they want, they think, they dream, but not think if they can, they want to free Tibet, which is fine, but they forgot they tried,but failed miserably, as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ..........."
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the warship is just a platform for launch weapons, in this regards, the best of India has is Brahmos, with range maximum 300 km, China has YJ 18 with range 600 km, can be launched from submarine, recently China has put YJ 21 hypersonic missile onto Type 055 with range over 1500 km, and also trying to sell it exporting version with YJ 21E, but only limited the range to 300 km.
Also China's aircraft carrier with J15 can carry YJ 12 with Mach 4, range 400 km, so tell me, if war started with Indian navy, how can you survive??
Recently, India navy just seeking to buy antiship missile from Russia for Klub and for US for Harphoon, it shows that Brahmos is totally useless, if it is as India said the best in the world, why India want to waste money to buy different anti ship missiles from Russia and US??
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1962 is nothing to China, the troop of PLA in there was not the best (they were the tiny part of the 2nd field army, under later very famous Deng Xiao Ping, the best in PLA was the 4th field army of Marshal Lin,Biao, his troops took only 3 months to kick all US army out of North Korea), , they were in Sichuan planting crops, then under the order they put down plows and took rifles to fight Indian army, for PLA it was just a piece of cake. compare in 1948, PLA with 600000 completely destroyed 800000 GMD army with US weapons (it was done by a combined force of 2nd field army and 3rd filed army) (it was called, the huai-hai campaign (nov. 6,1948-jan.10, 1949) ) and Stalin later said to Mao, it was just amazing you did that.
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India is a country without any feeling of self security, not confidence of itself, that is why this country jumps around all real superpowers, trying to get some protections from them, first to Russia for a long time, than under BJP jumped onto US laps, now seems useless with US, India started to jump back on to Russia, haha 😁😁. this county is just a joke to the world, by the end, no others really trust India, no other country will really help India when it needed, it is even beyond the dream that any other country would fight for India, why? what for?
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India as a nation (Hindus) has never been a nation shown good at fighting and from thousands of years of survival (they do not have a history, but only survived) , they seldom had any hero in the past. for thousands for years, this nation was conquered by all kinds of foreign intruders, Persians, Turks, Mongules, .....British, you name it, Hindu, beside the BS Hinduism which cannot even be qualified as a real religion but all fairy tales, day dreams. .......has no history, their so called history are actually those intruders who founded their rule in this piece of land we call India today, where no resistance, and not change for the intruders for thousands of years. today it remains the same, this nation has never been able to show they can fight a real war against an enemy with the similar size and strength. Not like Korea, Afghanistan, or Vietnam. It is the nature of this nation, all they have is a big boasting mouth, nothing else.
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so here is the thing, sure of course, every country has the right of free choice, it is for India, and it is the same for the US, now the question is, who needs whose help more?? Assume something in the near future, China would do something which may affect India, then who will India to ask help from? Russia? well, Russia is friend of China with no limit, can you face China alone? not really as shown in 1962, even when China was weak and poor, Nehru had to write to FJK begging for help.
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@amitsolanke1927 i knew it, as I just said,
Indians have no ability to judge nor ability to check the fact and real data, so if a Chinese or a Pakistan says something, then it is must be bad for India, they will not listen and they will go to opposite direction, so in here, just tell the truth, such Rafale M is a just waste of money for India, then Indians will full support for buying it, and waste that money. haha. very predictable.
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India is lagging behind more and more, the reason is India has no money in R&D, and no other country would sell most advanced weapon to it. India's R&D is only 0.6-0.7% of its GDP, compare to China, US, South Korea, ,Japan ...............all above 2.1% Assume India spend 0.7%, China 2.1%, due to China's GDP is 6 times of India, so the real money is 2.1/0.7x6=18 times more than India each every year, for the last 10 years, total money is 180 times more than India in R&D
"India's R&D expenditure is one of the lowest in the world: NITI Aayog
India's gross expenditure on R&D as a percentage of GDP has been lower than Brazil and South Africa.
By FORTUNEINDIA.COM, Jul 21, 2022 "
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what she did not say is so called "border threats" were created by BJP government, that is core, in China side, India sent army directly into China border in 2017 to created "Doklam" incident,, on Pakistan side, India abolished article 370 to create the tension. you got what you wanted, if you want to create enemies and "border" threat, you got what you wanted, the pity is Russia will not help you in either China side or in Pakistan side, certainly west will not help (anyway meaningful) either, they cannot even help Ukraine, let alone India.
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making jet engine is not like dreaming you can do it day or at night, jet engine needs high temperature tolerating materials, first with alloy metal then mono crystal alloy then ceramic alloy then..go on also with ceramic coating................. etc etc, you need now China is just behind US on making jet engine, with 3rd generation ceramic alloy with ceramic coating ability, (US should be at 5 th generation) and China has passed Russia on jet engine making, that is why China now all use China made WS 10A for J10 and WS 15 for J20, to replace Russian engines, India is at the level of 1, make alloy engine, Kevari, the max output power 71 kn, so Tejas has to use GE 404 with max power 80 kn. Impossible for India to reach the level for making jet engine which can be used in 5th gen fighter. but hey, it is your money, waste as much as you like. why should I care,
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@@kattarcommunist900go read history, even by Indians, such as " "Nehru, Tibet and China" by Indian former diplomat, Avtar Singh Bhasin
India never learned anything from the past, the whole thing is based on India trying to inherit what British left illegal claims over China's territory, Nehru knew it, but he chose to fight China, and lost, today, Modi government is doing the same again,
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Kashmir, UN called the democracy seekers, Indian army name them, terrorists, so that they can shoot them no question asked, in central area, Maoists are terrorists, so Indian army shoot them, in Manipur, none Meitei's hill people are terrorists, so Indian army with the order, shoot them,. such a powerful army, only to shoot civilians in India.
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Modi enjoy flying all over the world to show off, at the same time, manufacturing industry in India not only did not go as Modi promised to raise the percentage of it from 16% to 22% in 2022, it dropped from 16% to 13%, the job in manufacture in India decreased from 53 million to 27 million, for the past 5 years, more foreign companies moved out of India than those moving in into India
In 1985, India's GDP was 12% of Asia, the same as China, Japan was 56%. In 2022, China GDP is 48.6% of Asian GDP, India dropped to 9.4%
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like a rat trapped in a hole, India just does not know where to go, bjp/Modi created an enemy, China, try to be a hero, with this so called nationalist to win election, it did, but it knows it cannot fight China by itself, so the only way is to jump on to the laps of the US, since Russia is a good friend of China, India tried quad, this useless thing did not achieve anything, and di.d already, AUKUS does not accept India since India is too poor with no money to pay for expensive nuc subs, , only last year, Modi was so happy visited the US and so proud to speak on the US congress. then? right after he came back the US stood with Canada said India government supported m...der of the US and Canada citizen and it is a crime. now finally India realized , the US is not an ally, will never be, but only the one try to use India to fight China, just as a tool, nothing more than that. India has no real friend in this world, not the US, not Russia which only treated India politely as an old customer for Russia's weapons and oil, but firmly refuse to take waste paper rupee as payment, this country has nowhere to go, no future, no hope. what they have are only empty dreams. they cannot make anything, they have no industry products can compete in the world market.
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India and China, with the same population, that is about the only thing same, we are totally different, in culture, ideology, religion, political system, society, value ..........which country is better, judged not by someone's opinion, but by numbers and data, human for being human, is they can produce, the advanced nation can produce material wealthy efficiently with industrialization and technology, backward nation cannot, they do not have advanced industry and high tech, so they need to buy industry produces from advanced industry nations which and make the products better and cheaper than they can do themselves, this is the key difference between India and China. others, such as Chinese are slaves of CCP, etc , are all the BS.
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call for independence in Tamil Nadu, Kashmir, Khalistan, Meghalaya, Tripura, Mizoram, West Bengal, Assam, Nagaland, Haryana, Maharashtra, Karnataka, because they were all independent, only conquered by British.
Traditionally Hindus were the inhabitants in Indian plain, live in hot weather conditions at the low land, Himalaya's for Nepali and Tibetans which was with the same ancestors as with Han Chinese, Hindus were not fighters, always beaten at the mountain by Nepali and Tibetans, and from north by Aryans, Persians , Afghanistans, Turks, Monguls, later, from South by British, it was British got today's map of India, not by Hindus. India now just want to inherit their colonial master illegally claimed territories.
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Under the term of "freedom" with its nature of completely selfishness, each Indian is only for one self, on the country level, they only care their own, so for a name to be proud of, they claim they are the strong member of "democracy", "the largest democracy" "the mother of democracy", in reality when facing money, they forgot all of those, but sending money to a "dictatorship" to beat another "democracy", this is a completely hypocritical country
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Traditionally, Hindus were the inhabitants in Indian plain, live in hot weather conditions at the low land, Himalaya's for Nepali and Tibetans which was with the same ancestors as with Han Chinese, Hindus were not fighters, always beaten at the mountain by Nepali and Tibetans, and from north by Aryans, Persians , Afghanistans, Turks, Monguls, later, from South by British, it was British got today's map of India, not by Hindus. India now just want to inherit their colonial master illegally claimed territories.
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With the same population size, China's employment percentage for the past 10 year, stabilized at 67%, India is at about 37-40%,, which means, currently, China has 938 million employed, India in 2023, total 406 million employed, that is 29% of the total population. a very sharp drop from previous average.
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France jet has no future, because France cannot produce large powerful jet engine, that is why they cannot make 5 gen fighter, so France propose to India to make new engine of 120 kn, aim to get India money for its own test, now China sold PAF with J10c with WS10 engine, its power is already 120-140 kn. India is totally has no future in making jet, all Tejas Mk2 or AMCA will be just totally waste of money, however, since it is your money, waste it as much as you like
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the truth is, China wants to take action on Taiwan for a long time, China only needs an excuse, reason, now Pelosi is providing this opportunity, we should thank her for that. At the same time, it is the best time, since most west and US will still need concern the war in Ukraine, or Russia will not only just take the eastern part of Ukraine, but the whole, also , not only Ukraine, Russia may take the whole former Soviet republics oooooooooops, let go to have some fun
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go to learn some history before you open your mouth, haha :) we are not 3 yrs old, we are not India,
72 years ago, in Korea War, China's PM Zhou Enlai, let India ambassador to forward China's position to US, if US army pass 38 degree line, China would take action, US got the message, but did not care, US army with 15 countries formed UN force passed the 38 degree line into North Korea and all the way to near China border, China sent PLA to enter the war, crossed the YaLu river, which is the border between China and Korea, on late October of 1950, in 3 months time, by January of 1951, kicked US army and UN force completely out of North Korea and liberated Soul in South Korea.
Later in Vietnam war, Zhou Enlai told US, if US army pass 17 degree line, China would take action, this time US listened, its army never crossed it, but they just sent airforce to bomb the north Vietnam, we keep our promise, same to TW issue.
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Anti China is a basic common consciousness of the majority of Indians, we understand it, it is your choice. However, it is not an easy task. you are a mother of all democracy, all of you want to treat China as your number 1 enemy, it is also very understandable, but you need to realize, anti China is very expensive and risky and with certain danger to your country and you nation, as long as you are willing to pay for it, it is just OK, with this, you need to spend huge amount of money for making all kinds of useless weapons no money for other things, remain as a very poor country, with global hunger index 107, and 5.77 million malnutrition kids, it is just a few results of your anti China policy.
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this country will get bankrupted by 2030, this is not a joke, go to check your government budget, 25% of total expending is just for interest payment, and this number will grow about 12.5% next, the trend continue, by 2030, total interest payment will be 35% of the total budget, no money for other things, so India is in a debt trap dug by this government. compare to US with much larger debt, the interest payment is 16% of its budget, also China too, the interest payment is only 7%.
India's myth of fastest growth has gone with the wind, the growth was made up by investing too much into infrastructures with huge amount of borrowed money but cannot generated enough money back to pay the interest so the government had to keep borrowing money with high interest rate 6.5-7% compare to China's 4% and US 2.5%. this trick cannot work any longer due to the huge debt burden, Modi government run out of any options. consequences started to show and with no way of solving it.
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Very good decision of China, fully support! all these useless meetings, for what? Modi attended all of them, such as G7, G20, Democracy forum, Quad Head meeting, Brics, SOC,.............you name it, what India got from all the meetings?? nothing, with average income now lower than Bangladesh and global hunger index 107, happiness index 126. hahah :))
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this nation, due to its cultural and religion and tradition, they have no concept of logic, they do not know for an argument there are 2 parts, 1 if your opinion, another is the evidence based on fact for supporting your opinion, for this nation, their argument has only one part, that is what they think, no need for any supporting evidence, what they think must be right.
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Saying Chinese culture was by Buddhism is just a joke from a no brain, Chinese culture are based on Confucius (551BC), Buddha was born 480 BC. Buddhism is a hobby for grandma or grandpa, for thousand of year, China had an entrance exam to select officials for the government, all the test of it was on Confucius theory, none, not a single one with Buddhism.
if Buddhism is so good, why Indians threw it out but kept Hinduism??
those monks went to India were individuals, just some monks, none of them held position in the government at the time, none of them represent the Chinese government at the time, but all private
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@ryu126 the problem is Meitei occupied the best part of Manipur, the Imphal valley, at the time, they were with few people, no need for them go to mountains, so Kukis were treated as tribe people got protected, with the law which forbidden others to get into their land, that is the history, nobody deny the right of Meitei in the valley, the problem is with the population growth, now Meitei trying to get land in the mountains, that is the key for this violent situation. Meitei certainly can pass a law forbidden others to buy land in the valley, however, they have no right to get land in the mountain,
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What an empty talk and full of wishful thinking without any real data support. Simply check the history, has US helped Indian industry in anyway??? none! Soviet Union helped India more in India industry. So why US will help India now?? What US helped India's economy?? again None! US only is interested use India a tool to counter China, Trump just called India "filthy" on the face (he said same to China, but we are not US partner, not even friend as India feels India is), Jaishanka's foreign policy simply is not working, what he meant the ties with US only go up?? what is UP??? it does not make any sense. US has no special trade policy with India, Trump threatened many time to raise tariff to India, and sanction if India dare to import oil from Iran, Quad is just consulting group, totally useless, there will be no real military support to India if war happens with China but only some information sharing, which China has implemented in Pakistan for with PLA strategic supporting force in Pakistan now. the so called Indo-Pacific tie with US is just an empty word, nothing in real, not really help India in any way, US will never consider India as a real ally of it.
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the more talk from Indian army officers, the more we know Indian army does not know how to fight a modern war, especially not to China, India learned nothing from 1962 war, learned nothing from PLA
In 1962 war, they thought PLA would fight India at the a certain fixed position, to shoot each other, that is totally not the style of PLA, PLA do not fight that kind of war, PLA moves, goes around, attack from the back, in 1962 war, the 7th Brigade built bunkers even without shooting open at back, to PLA went around to the back to knock them down, the whole 7th Brigade positions collapsed in just 1 day, and with Brigadier John Dalvi captured by PLA. Then later in Sela pass, India formed strong defense positions, then PLA went around via Belly trail to the back cut off the road 13 at Bomdela, to get the 4th army surrounded, so the defense positions became totally useless, with this news, Indian army just fled, they could go back with the road blocked by PLA, most of them fled everywhere through out mountains, ..................with total near 4000 casualties and anther 4000 captured by PLA
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India invented chess, to get the king or queen to win, China invented "go", to set up points to surround the opposite let it nowhere to go. China is doing exactly according to "go", which has already surrounded India on land, just check a map, China with very good relationship with all the countries (except tiny Bhutan) around India, now with all central Asian countries, and also with Iran and Turkey. India? only jump into western and US as a .............. which cannot even save Ukraine, with land sealed, now China's navy is getting more and more into Indian ocean, to seal India on the sea too.
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We are different, we do not put woman in the front, they are too precious to us, however, there lots of women PLA soldiers in the troops that face India, they are about 200 km from the border, they are in long range rocket army, operating PHL 03, in war, they just following the order, put target data in the computer for the rocket launcher, and then press a red button, wait the commander tell them "targets destroyed, now move to a new position" .
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to the "proud of " Indians, wake up, the reality is India's military is totally out of date, and very backwards, in the modern war, attacking drones are becoming the major weapon, compare to India, no needs to mention China is in the total leads in attacking drones with tens of thousands of them, even Turkey, Iran, and North Korea now produce them in large amount, India? has none. so tell me, what you are so "proud of " for?
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how time changed, when India had Su 30 MKI, China did not have any 3rd gen fighter (tell you a story to make you happy, at the time, according to a high rank PLA officer at the Sino India border at Tibet,. IAF Su 30 MKI could get into Tibet air almost routinely, at that time, PLA had no effective way to stop them coming in) , India should have fought China at the time to free Tibet, so there is no border issue with China, but only border with Tibet. however, now China has 5 G fighter, India does not, China will launch the third aircraft carrier, 003, in a few days, with magnet electric catapult, (only one beside US in the world), with 80,000 tons (compare to India's 40000 tons), and with J 35 stealthy fighter, now India is still going for non-stealthy ones. India's is totally put PLAN into easy and relaxed. we will send out 003 with J35 stealthy fighters to Indian Ocean to say hello soon.
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being called gem of India, in fact he is just a trash of India, under him, India lost Russia as friend, did not get any closer to the US, it is the US who first told Canada that Indian government involved in the murder, and the US is not in any case stand with India, all the things that the US promised to India cost at least 3 times more money, and all out of dated. India to the US is only a tool, nothing else, this trash is so keen on the US, so he can keep his son 's good job and life in the US
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@ilmakhanafridi9396 ok so what? what can you do about it?? tell me , do not be shy, say it, what can you?? haha :)) nothing, but barking, that is all you can do, very typical, in action is different storyas shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ..........." btw , you have not answered if your DD among them ??
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@ilmakhanafridi9396 all your views are so shallow due to you lack of knowledge, you treat the US as your master, or your door boy, will the US defend you to fight China? it is just your wishful thinking, they cannot (including NATO) fight Russia to save Ukraine, let alone fight China, which is with 10 times of GDP of Russia.
So far , all aid from west and the US to Ukraine is $360 billion, well, China has a GDP of $18 trillion a year, so how much money the US and NATO will aid to India?? $1 trillion?? well, in your dreams.
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China just reported, China launched a sub space shuttle, went around the world, and landed in an airport inside China , do you know what this means? it means it can carry a bomb, fly to any target in the world, and drop the bomb, and landed back to China, but hey, certainly it is not for India, it is for US or Australia, for India, Delhi is only 400 km from China border, our long range rocket launcher PHL 191, with range 500 km, totally covers it.
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he never fulfilled his promise on election, now he is drawing another big fancy pie in the air for Indians to enjoy the empty dreams, and as before, no need to wait for 25 yrs, now Indians already forgot what he promised 2.5 years ago.
Modi promised India’s GDP growth rate will be 9-10 per cent by 2022, however, in 2019, growth rate, 4.5%, 2020, growth rate , -7.3%, 2021, 8.1% average for 3 years, 1.77%
Modi promised :India will be free of malnutrition by 2022.", today, The India Express reported, "Over 35.5% kids stunted, govt releases target to curb malnutrition"
Just check his record on promises, job for youth? 1%, fulfilled? Double farmers pay? no, $5 trillion economy by now? none, make in India? none. ................now more promises.
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total AC, China 3, total weight 65000 x 2 + 85000 = 215000 tons, India, 2, 45000 x 2 = 90000 tons
13000 tons destroyer China, 8, India 0
7000 tons destroyer China, 26, India 3
Nuclear submarine, China 18, India 1
amphibians attacking ships . 40,000 tons, China 6, India 0
submarine, China 86, India , 13,
need to more???
when war happened in Indian ocean, within 2 weeks, all IN fleet will all be setting quietly on the bottom of Indian Ocean.
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with UCC, Indian people forgot to ask Modi, where are 100 million manufacturing jobs he promised?? manufacture jobs , instead, decreased from 53 million to 27 million, why manufacture in GDP did not get to 22% in 2022 but dropped from 16% to 13%?? why Indian average income is now even lower than Bangladesh? why India's global hunger index is 107? why Indian farmers income did not increase 2 times as Modi promised and many many more such kind questions, in fact, Modi did not fulfill any of his promise in economy for India, Modi promised to get $5 trillion economy for Indian 2024, as the Economic Times pointed out, India nowhere near Modi govt's target of $5 trillion economy
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very good, we will take back South Tibet soon, India has no way to stop it. all they have is a big mouth, they do not have brain, India do not understand, South Tibet is just not defend-able from India side. PLA is at Doklam, which is 80 km from Siliguri, with PLA PHL 03 long range rocket artillery (range 140 km to 300 km), the whole 33rd army corp positions are under it fire range, then PLA just need to destroy 3 bridges on Teesta river, the whole NE states (provinces) will be completely cut off, then PLA in Tibet will completely wipe off the 3rd and 4 th army stationed in there, to take the whole Tibet South back to China.
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Have you noticed that Modi no longer makes the kind of specific promises he did 5 or 10 years ago? None of his big promises were fulfilled, leaving them as empty pledges. For instance, the promise to create 100 million jobs in manufacturing actually saw a decrease from over 60 million jobs to just 27 million. Similarly, the promise to double agricultural workers' wages has not materialized, and instead of raising India's manufacturing GDP from 16% to 22% by 2022, it dropped from 16% to 13%.
Now, the only big goal left is making India a developed country by 2047. However, that's another pipe dream. If India wants to reach China's current GDP of $18 trillion to qualify as a "developed country," it would need to grow at over 7% annually for more than 23 consecutive years. Unfortunately, India's growth rate has already fallen from 8.3% to 6.7%, and it’s expected to drop further next year. So, this last promise of Modi’s will also remain unfulfilled. That's why he is now focused on flying around the world talking about world peace, which no one seems to take seriously.
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"China is now the world’s leading exporter of armed drones with a wide range of systems in series production. From 2011-2019, Chinese state-owned aerospace and defence firms exported armed drones to at least 11 different countries. Between 2009 and 2013, China exported an estimated 10 armed drone systems to two countries. But the period from 2014-2018 saw Chinese firms, backed by strong state support for arms exports, dramatically increase their armed drone sales, supplying more than 150 armed drones to 13 nations around the world. As part of its Made In China campaign, by 2025 China plans to produce 100 high-end drones annually.
Armed drone exports to the Middle East have been particularly successful with sales to Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates (UAE). Saudi Arabia is said to have acquired its first Cai Hong “Rainbow” 4 (CH-4) drones from China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation (CASC) in 2014 and also inked an agreement for their local manufacture in 2017.
KSA also went on to acquire larger Wing Loong II armed drones from China's State-owned arms company Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC). Other nations that have procured armed drones from China include Algeria, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Myanmar, Turkmenistan and Nigeria, to name a few. "
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if Tejas mk 1 is a junk then next one Tejas mk 1a must be better, then the next Tejas 2, or ..............AMCA, haha :)) they do not understand, they will be totally waste of money, obvious reason is, 1, you have no good engine for them, 2. you do not have good radar for them. if you want to buy from other countries, then 1. they will not sell the most advanced, 2nd, it will be very expensive, the result is, the cost will be very high, if the cost is high then you cannot sell it to other countries since with the same amount of money they can buy better ones, i.e you cannot compete in the world market, just as your Tejas Mk1 and all your other weapons.
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India is in a trap, in a dead end, no way out, on the one hand, BJP wants to promote Hinduism, in the process, it may (like this time) insult other religions, unlike in China, India wants to show the world, it is democracy and has freedom, so they cannot do much about the protests, otherwise India may piss off US for not democracy and no freedom. so India will have this kind mess for very long time.
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you do not know China at all, go to learn some history, China would let you have some fun, then to retaliate, so not feel happy too early, who laughs the last, laughs the best. In 1962, it was the same, Indian army took some territory inside China, Nehru just waved his arms and ordered Indian army "go, kick the Chinese out", then he just left to enjoy himself in Sri Lanka, then ??? haha :) go to learn what happened, 4000 Indian soldiers captured, including 7th Brigadier BG John Dalvi, all in POW camps in Tibet, do you know how many PLA India captured? guess? let me help : 0 😁😁😁
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:)) India has too much money to waste, that drone is good for US to use it in Iraq or in Afghanistan, the place has no air defense missiles. but totally useless against China, when US use it, US has air dominance, India does not have it over China, that thing is fly very slow, only 194-300 mi per hour, with height of 15,000 meters, China's surface to air missile easily to get 41 km. anything can shoot it down. with $100 million each, it is the price for F35, haha :)) but good, buy them, waste more money.
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@@Hello-zj4xm for Indians, due to their culture, the truth is not the fact, but how many people believe it. In India, logic is not not based on fact, but based on what someone said, this is the culture and tradition of this nation. once you understand these, you will understand a lot of India, if you can make many people believe what you said, then even it is a lie, to the people of this nation, it is truth already, the liar become, "can be trusted" ,
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read Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ..........." , the interesting of the photos are, Indian army must have known that IA had about 200 more soldiers got captured by PLA from the date of June 16th 2020, the date of Galwan attack from India army called "Operation of Snow Leopard", however, they did not tell Indian public (go check India media at the time, the army did not mention anything about it, China did not either, and Indians all say that China hide the number of being killed, they do not appreciate that China did not show how many IA they captured either, to save you guys some face, but seems you do not deserve) , until a year later, in late of 2021, when India media claimed they have killed 33, 40, 43, 45, ............105 ........(or whatever number) of PLA, only after that, PLA release some photos, to show 200 or more of the most almighty army in universe were captured by no war experience, crying one child prince, PLA with only wood sticks, haha :))
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now US and China has already started on 6 G fighters, not how wonderful the performance will be for the jet itself but they will just be the mother jet to control group of air to air and air to ground attacking drones, China is the leader in attacking drone, the key part is the AI, to manage multiple drones, US and China are the leader in AI, India is still dreaming on so called AMCA, haha :) it will be shot down in 5 min when it met China not need 6 g, but J20, your AMCA is only on paper, but it is already a junk, but hey, it is your money, so waste as much as you want.
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@basuvivek643 it shows you never know anything about HSR, for airline you need to go to the airport which is usually about 30-40 km from the city center, HSR gets right in the center of a city, so you can take taxi bus your car, subway, to go home, hotel, meetings, you have a lots to learn the things you do not know and how wonderful they are.
In HSR, people with WIFI, so they talk all the time during the hours ride, for business, for friends, for families, you really do not now anything about it,
also it much more spacious than in the air plane,
you do not have it, you do not know how good it is
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Indians need to have a 3 D map to see the area, in China side, there is just flat plain, so China's transporting trucks can send tanks and artillery very fast to the region, pass the bridge to the south bank of Paongong Tso, and then, once war started, occupy Chushul and Razeng La and attack Leh, since it will be going down the mountain, India side needs to climb over 4500 meters up to the area, India's T90s cannot do that, needs to be air lifted. since with air dominance of China air force it is impossible for India to do that, whole Ladakh and Leh will be occupied by PLA in about 2 wks
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let's assume a real war situation for Tejas, for an attacking mission to destroy "terrorists camp" in Pakistan as India tried in 2019 (only killed an innocent crow), since it is tiny can only carry 3.5 tons of bombs, to IAF should let Su 30 MKI to carry the bombs (9 tons?), and let Tejas to do escort with air to air missiles. Just cross the border, PAF send JF -17 to fight , let's say Tejas is so powerful and JF 17 just go around it just outside its air to air missile range, Tejas is to happy to fight "junk" JF-17 by chasing them with full power, Tejas first dropped all fuel tanks to become even light and faster, missile ready, , Su 30 MKI would wait to let the space clear up, not too long, the fuel end warning light showed up, Tejas needs go back to fuel or will crash, at this time JF-17 flight back directly go to Su-30 MKI since it is so huge with heavy bombs, at over 140 km, JF-17 fired PL 15, in 2 min, shoot down all Su-30 MKI.
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@navaneeth4257 Eastern sector is connected with a narrow Siliguri corridor, very easily be cut off by PLA in Doklam (yes, we still in Doklam, Indian army all run away), Doklam to Siriguli corridor is 80 km, totally under the range of PLA PHL 03 long range rocket artillery (140 km to 300 km), to go to NE states first needs to go cross Teesta river,In the first wave of war, bridges on Teesta river, gajialdoba bridge and Teesta bridges (both car highway and railway bridge, Gazoldoba Barrage) will be totally destroyed, only these simple task will completely cut off the supply line to NE states (next will be the smaller bridges on Jaldhaka river, Jaldhaka bridge and Diana bridge) , impossible to go around via Bangladesh since it needs to pass cross 5-6 big rivers without bridge, Once war started, all Indian army in the NE state will be cut off of supplies , will be surrounded and eventually be totally destroyed.
unlike in Ladakh, India put many T90s tanks, in Siriguli, where India put the 33rd army corp there, mainly in a defense position, with no many tanks, the steep slope forbidden them to attack Doklam where PLA is stationed, therefore, PLA can freely use long range artillery to bomb the 33rd army corp positions day and night, no need to worry any Indian can climb up 4000 meters to PLA position at Doklam. Indian's M777 or Bufors or FH-77BD (80 km in 4000 meter higher is just too far for them) cannot reach Doklam, basically no effect way for India to fight back
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Jaishankar is the worst FM in the whole history of republic of India, under him what India achieved in diplomacy?? make relationship with China worse got 20 Indian army killed, lost all 10 pp in Ladakh, all South Asian countries are getting closer to China, US sent warship into India EEZ and does not provide a single dose of vaccine to India, lost Russia as ally but Russia got more connection with Pakistan , he is just a joke, US cannot keep the burden of 40 million AFG, how can US afford to defend 1.4 billion India against the real superpower China?? God is far, China is just at the door step. completely lost everything in AFG but created a new enemy for India,
as famous Indian export from US Fareed Zakaria said, "India does not have a foreign policy and does not have a forward looking policy that is designed to have some control the external environment to shape that environment in way to raise India's interest , India becomes a passive observer of what is happening" , India got nothing under Modi and Jaishankar.
India hopelessly observed Taliban invited Qatar, Iran, Pakistan, Russia, Turkey, China.... without India, India hopeless watched $3 Billion of Indians hard earned money gone with wind in AFG. ..India hopelessly observe that next stop of Taliban will be Kashmir,,,
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@jelouche Hinduism, comparing to all other major religions in the world, is the most primitive kind of religion, it cannot be even qualified as religion, since it is not a complete system, but a complex formed by combination of all Indian fairy tales, and stories and dreams and all kinds BS put together, religion development from multiple gods, and became with a single God by Egyptian Pharah Akennaten 2000 years ago, then Jews worked in Egypt adapted it and made God for Jews, then Roman found Jesus about 100 year after Jesus died, and adapted and developed Christian, but Hinduism still worship over 200 million all kinds of gods, totally shows its is not qualified as a religion. but some kind life style of Indians, and now BJP and Modi trying to enforce this kind old life style to all the people live in India in 21st century, it is sure it will not work.
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India is a country, is a nation, has no concept of Greek logic, in logic, for the argument, there are 2 things, 1, your opinion 2, evidence and fact to support your opinion, in India culture, they only expression their opinion, no fact or evidence is need.
there is a concept called "India logic" , difference from Greek logic, it does not require evidence support from fact, but using someone said something as evidence. fact to Indians is not important, as long as someone said it, then that is it, does not matter if this someone said it based on fact or not.
so since "Chinese police station" reported from west, so it must be true, no one bother to check the fact. since it is not important.
so 45 PLA died in Galwan, must be true, since Tass reported it, as for how Tass know? is that based on fact? not important to them.
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we all know India use Arihant trying to retaliate to China with nukes, it is understandable, so assume Arihant will do that in sometime in the future, after travel 4000 km, it gets to SCS, and China with sonar and submarines everywhere in SCS, but China pretend know nothing Arihant is coming, sure India would not tell anyone about, so China navy just announced a routine military excises, and drop some deep water bombs, soon some debris floating on the surface of the ocean, with some nice beautiful photos taken at Taj Mahal. :))
It can carry 12 K 15, that is right, but can only carry 4 K4 (actually cannot carry a single one, but it is the original design), so an Indian parliament member said, why such expensive nuc sub can only carry 4 K4 ?? so now India is making more to in order to put more missiles into it, the way of doing it is simple, only increase the length, add a section of 10 meters in the middle, problem solved, more missile can be fit, yes, it is true, but is only for tiny 750 km range K 15, since there is no increase in diameter, K4 still cannot fit into it, haha , :)) so we know next 3 nuc sub with the same diameter are still totally useless. :)) well, it is your money, waste as much as you want :)
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Compare to Nehru's government, all now are cowards, Nehru in 1962, ordered Indian army "kick the Chinese out", with full support from his defense minister V. K. Krishna Menon and his army, which lead by army chief and commander of the 4 th army in front line, Lieutenant General, Brij Mohan Kaul, they were so brave, they fought, regardless the results, their heroic braveness will be remembered. Today. facing China in 2020, Modi did not even dare to mention China's name, dare not to order the army to fight, the army chief asked front line do not fire a single shot, lower the artillery barrel facing China to show India does not want to fight.
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Molecular anthropology (go to learn what it is) showed, Han Chinese and Tibetan share the most closely DNA profile, they had same ancestors, migrated from Africa, at about 40000 years ago, got into China proper today, then they separated, the group went from Sichung to Tibet mountains were the ancestors of today's Tibetans, and those went north and east were the ancestors of today's Han Chinese, we are real brothers and sisters in a Chinese family in DNA, together, we are building a great country, together we will take South Tibet back to China soon.
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the core for everything is economy, you have only 1/6 of GDP of China, no matter how tough you talk, we just do not give a fk, since your words cannot kill anyone. For supporting a war, you need to have materials, not just words from big mouth. however, India is not good at material production, you cannot make anything. if you cannot make anything, cannot make any weapon, how can you support a large scale war with China?? China's industrial scale equals US and JP and Germany combined, you have no idea what means, which means when you run out of ammunition, we will only just get started, then what you will use to fight???
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while Indians are talking, angering about the only 4 PLA got killed compare to 20 on their side, and shouting, 35, 40, 43, haha :)) (they do not have a fixed number, not yet :))) , China is busying building more villages (military camps for PLA) in South Tibet, and building more roads and bridges along LAC to send heavy tanks to the region and be ready to move to the other side of LAC, :) talk is good, action is better, but none in Indian side.
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Hinduism never worked for India, so for the past 1000 years, India was invaded and ruled by all kinds of foreign intruders, such as Persians, Turks, Monguls and British, if it did not work then how can it work now?? However BJP is promoting it and even to the extreme form as HIndtva, Sure China also suffered in recent history by invasion and bullies by the west and Japan, however, difference is we realized the old Chinese ideology, as you pointed out, Confucious or Bhuddism, not work for China, we adapted Marxism, and established new China, since then, started at the same time and same level as India, China is a light year ahead of India in all aspects and the second largest economy in the world and will replace US in just less than a decade time.
India is not a super power in any sense, it is just a poor backward country, totally without any hope or future as we can see based on the history.
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@bat__man__.w let us compare total captured in all wars btw China and India, since others like casualties is not accurate, since both can lie, captured is not, both sides agree,
in 1962, we captured near 4000, in 2020, 200, so total more than 4000,
India for all the war, captured 0
wow, you have so much experience for being captured , haha:)) so useless.
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in 2018 Prime Minister Narendra Modi ‘New India, has promised by 2022-2023,now 1 year to the target.
1. increase average income to $3000, now actual average income is $2000, less than Bangladesh, 1 year to increase $1000 for each person.
2. get GDP to $4 trillion, now, actual GDP is $2.88 Trillion, 1 year to increase $1.12 trillion, (2021 with 9.3% growth increased $0.26 Trillion)
3. Promised double farmers income by 2022 from 2016 level. Target income for 2022 is Rs 21416 per month, now actual income is Rs 12445 per month for farmer.
none of the promised will reach the goal, but no worry, PM Modi will propose and promise new goals for election.
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it is a typical mode of what India wants "make in India", first buy some directly and then make it in India, it is suppose to learn from this kind mode, to be able to make it in India completely, however, India never achieved this, started from Mig 21, after decades of 'making in India" , India still cannot make jets (Tejas even designed by French), still cannot make Su30 mki completely in India, still needs to import Rafale. it will the same to C-295, after 10-20 years (if there is still an intact India in the world), India will still needs to buy transporter :)) true story.
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Indians so dummbb, in Pangong tso, if PLA withdraw 4 km they withdraw 1 km, they think it is the great victory for them , and so happy about it, , haha :) so they stay there doing nothing, at the same time, China build a bridge across Pangong tso, using the good paved road (this road directly connected to High way 219, which was the reason China rather to have war to take Aksai chin back to China in 1962 to protect this road, since Hw219 is the direct link between Xinjiang and Tibet) at north bank of Pangong tso now PLA can send tanks directly into south bank of Pangong tso. to get to Chushul and Rezang La, hah :) so that made north bank finger 1-3 which India heavily guarded with all kind of bunkers and other defense positions and facilities totally useless. ha :)
we are always many steps ahead of you, hah :))
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@indianguy5866 let me tell you a fact, which is God made this way, you cannot do a thing about it, whether you have highest road or not, from Hindu plain, you need to clime over up 4300 meters to get to top of ladakh, your tanks cannot do that, does not matter if you have universe highest road. haha :)) but on China side, we have flat plain in Aksai chin, understand, ? we use heavy trucks to ship our tanks there, haha :)) it is flat, do you know what that means? flat? hah :))
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2019 Barakot "surgical strike" was a total disaster for India, it showed a real capability of India, which is a total mess. 1. the strike could not hit a single target, but killed some pine trees and a crow. Indians had no idea why since the "smart bombs" worked perfectly in practice, they have no idea what is in the in the invisible battle field. 2. before the attack , the big mouth India had already talked about they would do such attack, so stpd to let Pakistan to get prepared. 3. in the operation, they let their AWACS transponder open for everyone to listen to it, where it went, where the jets would go and at what time , via what route. :)) can you be more stupd than that?? 4. Sent 50 years old mig 21 to fight, Abinandan in his first recall of the event said, he was looking for enemy, then suddenly got hit by missile, he did not say anything about fire a missile, later Indian make up lies about he fired and shot down an F16 first, total BS. 6. to prove this, Indians showed AWACS radar image, which should be top military secret, they said "hey, see, 2 spots here, represent 2 F16, then disappeared " haha :) it only showed Indians , especially IAF, had no idea what electric magnetic warfare means to them. 7. in a hurry, an Indian missile shot down an Indian helicopter and ki,,,lled all 9 on board, the whole thing is totally a mess, showed India has no ability to handle a modern warfare. totally a loser!
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the cost is $2.5 billion, $44 million each,with payload 7.5 tons, China started making Yun (transport) -8 in 1974, with payload 15 tons, but cost is about $20 million each, so payload is 2 times more than C-295, but cost is about half of C-295. China now makes Yun-20 with max payload 66 tons, already 100 finished production, not too bad, only about 50 yrs behind China, haha :))
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Buddha, the most intelligent Indian in all 5000 years of Hindu history, said " endless bitter sea in front, repent, land is nearby" . India is facing so much challenges and pressures from China, economically, militarily, ............in all aspects, no matter how hard India is trying, the gap is only enlarging bigger and bigger, no way out for India. ........however, listen to Buddha, turn around. give up anti China policy, cede the illegally occupied South Tibet (no use to you anyway) to China, then everything will be back to great again with ever lasting peace for at lease 1000 years.
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let me help India a little, as how to defend India from China, assume India is 6 times stronger in everything, hah :) with a much superior IAF than PLAAF, first is to keep accurately situation awareness in all front facing China, since unlikely China will attack Delhi, so mainly using S400 and IAF to control the west sector, shoot down all J 20, J 10 J 16........and destroy all PLA positions in Ladakh with air power of almighty IAF .
in the eastern sector, IAF needs to send bombers to completely destroy all the military positions of PLA in Doklam, to make sure Siliguri corridor will not be cut off by PLA so India army and supplies and go through smoothly to support Tawang front. using the mountain set up multiple defense lines and strong holds, using missile and bomb constantly attacking PLA supply lines,
these will effectively stop PLA's advance in the area, with time PLA will be exhausted and retreat.
however, nothing in my assumption existed for India, sorry. :))
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@direwolf7491 your problem is you use what you planing to do, what you want to do, what you dream to do as reality. haha :))
all you have is Mk1, that is all what said about it, what you said is all on MK 1a and later, which will produces starting from 2023 to 2024, haa:)) but you may keep dreaming, , it is free, and it is fun,
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@direwolf7491 it is not what you want Meteor to put on MK2 or not, it is French do not allow you to use it on any jet without European radar, all your later AESA will be from Israel, understand??
not only that, it is a total waste to put Meteor on Tejas, even on your Rafale is kind of waste, because, RBE2AA radar for India is with only 750 T/R, with detection and locking range is about 130 km, shorter than Meteor range, that is why is a waste, let alone using Israel 2052 ardar.
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Indians do not have a clear mind, just want to waste money , first, what you want the fighter for? showing off ? you want them to fight China, then question is can F21 match China's J20 or J16 or J10c and new fighter drones? not only those, China's new air to air missile is much better than US's AIM 120,
Rafale cost $250 million each, almost 2 times more expensive than F35, how many India can afford? it is a 4th g fighter , again, useless to use it to fight China's stealthy fighter.
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In this country, not only in agriculture but also in nearly all aspects such as the political system, society, culture, religion, ideology, laws, and land reform, fundamental problems persist. Despite these issues being widely acknowledged as obstacles, they are paradoxically considered national treasures by Indians in this self-proclaimed largest democracy. Consequently, there is strong resistance to change, ensuring that these problems persist unabated. This obstinacy is destined to lead the country nowhere, creating a sense of hopelessness and a bleak future.
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only socialist country like China can achieve what China achieved. China poverty was mainly in countryside rural areas, due the price for agriculture products are too low which is the same everywhere in the world, especially bad for China, since even with territory 3 times of India, but India has 25% more arable land than China. It is extremely difficult, for different areas must take different measures to fit local situation, and Chinese government not just give substitutes or money or food to the poor, since that will not solve the problem from base, in most of the cases, one way for this is CCP sends CCP members with good position in cities, in offices to go to rural villages as leader to work with local farmers to try to find a way for them lift from poverty line. it is impossible for any other country, only China, under the leadership of CCP, can do.
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India as a nation (Hindus) has never been a nation shown good at fighting and from thousands of years of survival (they do not have a history, but only survived) , they seldom had any hero in the past. for thousands for years, this nation was conquered by all kinds of foreign intruders, Persians, Turks, Mongules, .....British, you name it, Hindu, beside the BS Hinduism which cannot even be qualified as a real religion but all fairy tales, day dreams. .......has no history, their so called history are actually those intruders who founded their rule in this piece of land we call India today, where no resistance, and not change for the intruders for thousands of years. today it remains the same, this nation has never been able to show they can fight a real war against an enemy with the similar size and strength. Not like Korea, Afghanistan, or Vietnam. It is the nature of this nation, all they have is a big boasting mouth, nothing else.
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@blackmamba9950 Indians always say copy. copy, just by look at a photo something high tech can be copied? haha :) what a BS. if so, why not you copy a Ferrari for yourself so you can show off on your street?? full of BS. Su30 MKI is licensed to India, with all technical document available to India, however, after all these years, HAL still need to import over 1500 parts and raw materials from Russia, and the cost is more expensive to make it in India than directly buy it from Russia.
if you blame other copy, the logic should be, "you copy, I do not, I can make something better by myself", however, you cannot make a thing, "you copy I do not, so I have nothing", why you so proud of that? you cannot even copy. do you have high moral standard?? that is a BS, why you copy all west patent drugs? it shows, you never shy of copy things you can, for those you have no ability of copying, well it is just convenient to blame others. hah :) but we do not have a fk whatever you say about us., hah :)
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Jaishankar is the worst FM in the whole history of republic of India, under him what India achieved in diplomacy?? make relationship with China worse got 20 Indian army killed, lost all 10 pp in Ladakh, all South Asian countries are getting closer to China, US sent warship into India EEZ and does not provide a single dose of vaccine to India, lost Russia as ally but Russia got more connection with Pakistan , he is just a joke, US cannot keep the burden of 40 million AFG, how can US afford to defend 1.4 billion India against the real superpower China?? God is far, China is just at the door step. completely lost everything in AFG but created a new enemy for India,
as famous Indian expert from US Fareed Zakaria said, "India does not have a foreign policy and does not have a forward looking policy that is designed to have some control the external environment to shape that environment in way to raise India's interest , India becomes a passive observer of what is happening" , India got nothing under Modi and Jaishankar.
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for those do not know S4 SSBN, I can help, after first Arihant, a member from the parliament said, we spent so much money, it can only hold 4 K4? (actually it cannot even hold 1, but only now with 16 K 15), so it was decided to add a section of 10 meters in the middle to put more missiles in it, but the problem is, the diameter is the same, it still cannot fit K4, since sub with 10 meter max height inside, K4 is 12 meters long, S4 is basically the same as Arihant, can only hold K15 with tiny range of 750 km. all 6 of them the same class will be like this.
S4 launched in November 2022, now it is S4 star
The question is, why India keeps wasting money on expensive but useless things??
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Nirmala Sitharaman in other country can only be a sell girl in a wet market, but here she is the FM, haha :) you guys too easy to be fooled. she just boasted how much more GST she got for the past month, anyone thinks why in the inflation people spent less money but BJP government got more GST?? simple:
total comssumption changes in India
Q2 2022 22,624.05 Q1 2022 23,304.25
from the numbers we can see, total consumption dropped from Q1 to Q2, in 2022, however, BJP government happily reported that GST increased more than 50%, you sold less goods, but get more money for government in tax?? what that means? it only means BJP government rob people more more tax so people needs to pay more for things they buy, they buy less but paid more. simple,
a good healthy economy , GST increase should be positive ratio with total comssumption, i.e. sell more goods, get more tax, not sell less but with higher price to pay tax.
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1. Stealthy fighter China, yes vs India none, 2. Hypersonic missiles, China yes,vs India, none, 3. Attacking drones, China, yes, vs India, none
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as usually, no worry, 1. all China made weapons are useless, with poor quality, can never work in real war, 2. you have Brahmos, which can be used in any kind war, to warship, to land, even someone wants to use it to shoot down J20, haah :)
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China and India basically has no issue in border, if it was not by Nehru, correct the mistake, return South Tibet to China, everything should be fine, all India's China policy is based on lies, simple change it, go back to truth and fact, everything will be fine. Every Indian should watch youtube "India's Stand on China Border Irrational but Nehru's Handling Was Irresponsible: Avtar Singh Bhasin" and read the book, Avtar Singh Bhasin's braveness of admitting that for all these years it was India, especially Nehru, made mistakes and caused unnecessary war and bad relationship btw the two countries, made me into tears.
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live a peaceful life, make your country clean, get rid of slums, put all money into people's lives, and kids, do not try to be a boss of a region or in the world, forget about superpower................ then everything will be much better, you are what you are, do not pretend to be someone you are not, you are not made for that. no worry about security, no one in the world wants to bear responsibility for feeding 1.4 billion hungry people.
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such as, set navy base in Djibouti to control outlet from the red sea, navy base in Gwadar to control outlet from Persian gulf, with these 2 points, the whole route of India oil import is blocked, in war, not single drop oil can be shipped into India,
at border in the east all sealed by PLA, in its south east, China now work with Myanmar. to the north, with China BRI with all 5 central Asian countries, and treaty with Iran, also sealed India. now another point is at Maldives.
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historical fact is, when British Raj broken up in 1947, the separation of Pakistan and India was mainly based on the religion, right? OK, then the same principle should be applied to Kashmir too, right? the majority of the people in Kashmiar were Muslims (British censor in 1911, 70% Muslims, in 1921, 75% Muslims), therefore, either Kashmir should get independent or be integrated into Pakistan. however, just based on the plea of the out "King" (where is your democracy principle??), India sent army into Kashmir and refuse to have referendum, even worse under Modi, whose government abolished article 370, against the will of majority of Kashmir people, and with huge human right abuses in the region.
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The dilemma for India, if you build more roads, then that is the endless trap for drawing all you mostly needed money , so you loss to China is definite, one example is SSN strategic road, this road spent 20 years and with $1.5 billion, but at Galwan is only 5.7 km from China LAC, in war, this road will be blocked by China's personal anti tank missile, so it is a total waste, useless. you want waste more money, well, it is your money. 2nd. if you want to take action to destroy the bridge, then it is even better, you provided reason to have war for China to India, even more wonderful. all totally up to you. :)
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US, do thing as they say they are doing, Germans, do not say thing until it is done, China, somewhere in btw US and Germany, India, say thing 20 yrs or longer before it is done. in 2009, India said India will send a man into space in 2015, and let an Indian walk on the moon by 2021, haha :))
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a little country with only 23 million people can make better missiles than this country of 1.4 billion, a tiny country got sanctions by US and west for decays can make global hunger index 97 better than this country with the most arable land on earth but got its global hunger index 107, this country is so useless and so amazing that they do not feel any shame of their incapability.
Blood is always thicker than water, some time in the future, South and North Korea will get reunited again, by that time, they will have technologies from South , with cars, computers, chips, cellsphones, .TVs.. and good missiles and nuke from North to be a strong and modern country in Asia, so tell me what you have?? still nothing, will still use Samsum phones, Kia Hongdai cars, K9 guns, ..to see Korean sell T50 to all over but cannot sell a single junk Tejas to any other country .....................................
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read Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ..........." , the interesting of the photos are, Indian army must have known that IA had about 200 more soldiers got captured by PLA from the date of June 16th 2020, the date of Galwan attack from India army called "Operation of Snow Leopard", however, they did not tell Indian public (go check India media at the time, the army did not mention anything about it, China did not either, and Indians all say that China hide the number of being killed, they do not appreciate that China did not show how many IA they captured either, to save you guys some face, but seems you do not deserve) , until a year later, in late of 2021, when India media claimed they have killed 33, 40, 43, 45, ............105 ........(or whatever number) of PLA, only after that, PLA release some photos, to show 200 or more of the most almighty army in universe were captured by no war experience, crying one child prince, PLA with only wood sticks, haha :))
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for been colonized over 300 years by the white, they cannot think Asian could fight western / the US, been slaved for too long, totally changed their mindset. haha :)) they thought all others would be like them.
for modern war, the fight is based on the capability of a country's manufacturing, currently, China's manufacturing is 12 times of India, 2 times of the US, equals the US, Japan, Germany and India combined, TW is 200 km from China, over 10000 km from the US,, ...historically, the Chinese army kicked all the US army with its lead the UN force out of North Korea in just 3 months, ...
just some basic facts, not just from someone empty heads
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Thousand years of India history (if you can call it history) has already proven Hinduism never worked, with, as Indian claimed, more than 5000 years or longer Hinduism, why India was the most invaded and conquered by all kind of foreign intruders for the past thousand of years?? so called "history" of India was merely the history of all these foreign intruders, Persians, Turks, Monguls...........etc etc,.............British, ........... established their rule in this piece of land called India, with people lived worship of 200 million Hindu gods but with no resistance and no change for all the years.
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All of the Indian Army's victories occurred under the Congress party's leadership, not the BJP's. These victories include reclaiming Goa in 1962, securing Bangladesh's independence in 1971, and the success in the Kargil War in 1999.
In contrast, the BJP's actions have been less successful. For instance, in 2017 during the Doklam standoff, the army withdrew following China's final warning. Today, the Chinese PLA remains stationed in Doklam, transforming it into a fortified military base and constructing multiple villages in the area.
Furthermore, in May 2020, 72 Indian soldiers were wounded by PLA forces and hospitalized at Pangong Lake. Then, on June 15-16, 20 soldiers were killed, and 200 others were captured by the PLA. This information was reported in The Express Tribune article dated October 10th, 2021, titled "Indians furious...
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on land border, India is completely sealed by China and Pakistan, only a tiny link to a some weak countries, its original goal of avoid Pakistan to go from Iran Carbahar port via a railway to Afghanistan was also blocked due to Iran canceled the project. Now China is building a railway through central Asian countries from China all the way to Europe again completely sealed India way to central Asia and to Russia.
In the ocean front, China has set up strong positions in all three directions that India facing Indian ocean, from north west, Gwadar, to the west , Djibouti, to the south Hanbantota, to the east Coco island.
More and more China war ships, including aircraft carrier, will get into Indian ocean
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so based on facts, the conclusion is : 1 western "democracy" system is not working in India, 2. Hinduism, as the same as the past thousands of years, never worked for India, and currently BJP is pushing it into the extreme form, Hinditva, will never work either, 2, therefore, India is a country without any hope, nor future, since they do not know what their problem is, let alone have any concept how to correct and choose a right path.
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from before the war, US wanted to have this war, Biden said many times before the war that if Russia attack Ukraine, US would not send any troops to help, once the war started, US does not want to stop the war to restore peace but keep encouraging Ukraine to fight to "last Ukraini" alive. by scarifying the people of Ukraine and the country, US can achieve its goal of weakening Russia, to keep US dominance in the world, this is to Russia, to China, US used economical way, and at the same time, wants to push war for Taiwan area, the goal is the same as to Russia, to weaken China , to keep US world dominance.
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it was from 1937, only a dream, with 1/12 manufacturing capability of China, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well, dream is pretty, is fun, and most importantly, it is free. haha :))
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the core of Hinduism is just for survival, it can explain everything, it can find all excuses for its failure, then let people feel good so they can survival anything and any hardships (if their jet got shot down pilot captured, they would say they shot down an enemy jet too, if they lost 20 army men, they would claim, they have done more to enemy, from 38, to 40, 45, 75, 105, 150..., all these, to seek the root, was from Hinduism, with these, they feel much better about themselves) , that has been proved from thousands year of history. it has no use in solving anything in real life, but only provide empty wishes for survival. that is the biggest contribution of Hinduism, since they survived all kinds of intruders from thousands of years, and for them, it showed the religion is very successful (only to them) it is OK since it only for themselves to live this way. However, put it into extreme, it becomes Hindutiva, it makes them to think they are superior to other people with other religions, this trend becomes dangerous, mainly for themselves, based on this kind ideology, they feel they have right to bully the people with other religions, this in turn will make other people hate them more, it will only get them self destroyed since in reality they have nothing better than other people at all
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In the past at least 1000 yrs , India was ruled by all kinds of foreign intruders, Persians, Turks, Afghanistan, Moguls, ........British, you name it, you are not a nation can and know how to fight, admit it, 😁😁😁😁
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Indians have no concept of logic, they like to say what they think but they do not understand, that is just their own opinions, which are useless, the essential in Greek concept of logic is "argument" in which it consists of 2 parts, 1, views, and 2 reasoning or evidence to support the view, Indians would just say what they think but no reasoning or evidence for it, so it is basically just total BS, nobody gives a fk whatever they say. haha :)) One important part of reasoning or argument in the modern time is photo, which can reflect the real thing, the fact, as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious.......", no matter what Indians claim they have won, pity is they cannot even provide a single photo to show it, so they use some thing made in Bollywood to fake it, haha :) so funny and dumbbb and desperate. :))
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Modi is a hero—for China. Now we can relax, with no need to worry about India becoming a competitor, either in industry or in the military. We can be certain that under Modi, India will remain a backward agricultural country.
Yes, this is a fantastic man, Under Modi, India's manufacturing sector as a percentage of GDP has declined. In 2013, it was 17%, but by 2019, it had dropped to 16%. During the election, Modi promised to raise it from 16% to 22% by 2022. Instead, it fell to 13.3% in 2020, and the downward trend continues. In 2023, it further declined to 12.84%. So much for the dream of an industrialized India. Thank you, Modi Ji.
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400 Chinese ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,d. read Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ..........."
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India's war concept is back to 1999, just for grabbing some mountain tops and claim it is a victory, they want a war for about 2 wks to 1 month, not prepared for any time longer than that, and they prepared their ammunition and other supplies accordingly, so for this, to counter this, we prepare a war for 6 months. For Ladakh, in China side, there are plains, so it not hard at all for us to pile up all for 6 months war. but in India side, they need to climb up 4500 meters, with all kinds of supplies for 200000 strong (weak) army. Due to only a few roads available to Ladakh front, and India does not have air superiority. once war started, all road from Delhi to Leh will be bombed, and all transporters will be shot down. let the war start at October, block whole Ladakh front for 6 month in winter, we do not send any PLA for attacking, only block the supplies, that will force 200000 Indian army to surrender due to no food and no fuel for the winter.
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There will be never a solution for the border issue, unless India send back South Tibet which is illegally occupied by India peacefully to China.
The McMahon Line, drawn around 1913, was not even implemented by the British but was only used as a bargaining chip to gain interests in Tibet. The central government of China under the Qing dynasty, as well as the Republic of China (ROC) and the People's Republic of China (PRC), neither agreed to nor signed the treaty, and it was almost forgotten. However, it was brought up again in 1935 but still didn't result in any action. It was only in February 1951 that the Indian army marched into Tawang and ousted the local Tibetan government. And due to the civil war in China the People's Liberation Army (PLA) only reached Lhasa in October 1952.
"Arunachal Pradesh Chief Minister Pema Khandu today announced that his government will set up a memorial for Major Bob Khathing, an Army officer who commanded a small team of soldiers to establish India's administrative control in Tawang, which borders China, in 1951.Prema Khandu said that the foundation stone of the memorial will be laid at Tawang on February 14, the day when Major Bob Khathing is believed to have hoisted the Indian Tricolour there for the first time 70 years ago."
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if you can do following, you can get what you want, 1, free Tibet, 2. free Xinjiang, 3, pass Finger 4 in Pangong Tso, 4, Occupy the fighting site in Galwan valley, so if you can just accomplish only 1 of the 4, you may get what you want in UN. or just forget it.
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blah blah blah, that is all he is good at, with with him, India is getting more isolated daily, only a tool to US (US just supported for Pakistan F16 improvement), a weapon customer for Russia, (right after Modi told Putin "this era is not for war" Putin went back to call up 300000 reserves to fight in the war), a common enemy for both Pakistan and China, a bully neighbor for Nepal, Bhutan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.
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@Longsilog4920 unlike Indian IAF proved they fight?? pilot got invited to have fantastic tea in Pakistan?? hah :))
do not pretend to you anything about China weapons, haha, you do not, it shows, JF17 is reverse for F16? hah :)) you have no idea at all, it from Mig 21, yeah, which you never expected, haha in China is called J7, Chengdu development into JC-31, finally got into JF17, it has nothing to do with F16, so do not show you know nothing, go to learn before you open your mouth!
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China never paid much attention to India, all good diplomats go to US and Japan, like Yang JC to US, then top foreign for Xi, like current FM, Wang Yi, ambassador to Japan, now the CCP politburo member. Like current ambassador to US, Qin Gang, now the newly elected CCP central committee member, soon will be new China FM.
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This woman should do her job as FM, why she bother for Manipur? under this woman, India finance is a disaster, with 25% budget just for interest payment, it is 37% of total revenue, highest in the major countries, (compare, US with much larger debt, interest payment is 17%, China 7%). Next year will be 12.5% higher than this year, by 2030, interest payment could reach 35% of India government budget, she is better just go to a wet market as a sales girl
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For a jet engine, most important is the high temperature tolerance for turbine blades, the output power is directly related to it, or it will be distorted or burned. The high quality steel alloy can make Kaveri 10, which using it, the max power was 71 kn. cannot be used in Tejas, so India used GE404, with power of 81 kn, still too little, so the junk cannot be sold to any other country. simply total useless GE 404 should used Ni alloy, can stand higher temperature, in GE414, now it should have used Ni-base single crystal turbine blades, which can stand higher temperature, single crystal made the turbine blades stand higher temperature since it can resistant to the pull strength evenly to all direction, GE 414 with power output to 91 kn, may be little bit better version now, not not much. The next generation is ceramic material made of turbine blades, all jet engine with above 150 kn need this kind of engine, also in ceramic engines, there are many generations already, in ceramic engine another import factor is coating for it. In today's world, the US is still number 1, but number 2 is not Russia but China. China has mastered ceramic material made of turbine blades with special coating, so China can make WS 15 with 180 kn. The US only sells GE 414 to India, which is generations behind the best US and China military engine, well if you think the purpose of India to get it is to fight China, which will be totally useless on that. France got the original design wrong, France is also in the lead in ceramic engine material, however, France is only good at making medium sized engine, like the one used in Rafale, with M88 max power only about 70 kn. same for RR so France and RR cannot make 5th gen fighters. India with GE414 is the same, we can predict India will never or in at least 40 years or 50 yrs with no 5th gen fighter, by that time, the world will be in 7th gen fighter era. so we know India will never catch up
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Yes, just check the video on June 15 2020 video, it was India started with 600-700 soldiers attacked China side first, only got beaten the sht out of. China is still hold the site, you are so welcome to attack again, this time, we will meet you guys with other kind weapons, not just wood sticks, your number will not be 20 , but 2000, just try it. then you may let your woman un diplomat cry again.
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any world politician leader, if he puts the ideology first instead of economy of his(her) own country, he will fail definitely. Biden put "democracy" "freedom" first, since he has no much to show for the economy, same for Modi, Modi put Hinduism first, but cannot accomplish any economic goal promised 8 years ago to Indian people, Borris , Liz and now Rishit, will not get economy of UK back, that is the most important part for UK, not send some BS Mnisters to Taiwan, what that will get to UK? nothing.
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by logic, China should thank Modi the most.
1.US led sanctions to Russia made the oil price world wide all rise up including in US, so the Russia oil price rise too but relatively cheaper than other parts, so the end result is Russia can sell less amount of oil but make more money, .......
2. Assume US did not sanction on Russia, so world price of oil remain as before, India still import from Iraq (more expensive now than from Russia) so Russia would be sell less oil and therefore make less money, and ordinary Americans do not need to pay so much on gas now so US will have less inflation, so Biden would not ask for stopping taking tax from gas so that is less money for US government,.
3. with the sanction on Russia, US and west pushed Russia getting even more closer to China, due to the sanction , so Russia needs import more goods from China, including all those for everyday life to military and industrial, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but US's major threat is China, but in reality, US is helping China
4. Seems in US government there is no one really think the whole thing through (this is India style, seems Modi is really a good teacher to Biden), and whole EU still blindly listen to US, and therefore listened to Modi, but end result is benefit to China, so we should thank Modi, :))
thank you (just no milk for me, I mean in my tea)
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India GDP number is a fake , it is a lie, India boasted its GDP $3.2 trillion passed UK, actually India real GDP is only $1.8 trillion. To judge a country's real GDP not by what its government claimed, but what the government can spend, that is reflected in the total budget of a country, US $6 trillion, China, $3.85 trillion, UK $1.3 trillion, ........India?? $400 billion, why? because India does not have the money as it claimed. or the budget should be more than UK's $1.3 trilloin but in fact it is less than 1/3 of UK's budget, the real number of India GDP is only $1.8 trillion, you cannot spend the faked GDP number.
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@srilata06 Under Modi's leadership for a decade, the most crucial aspect for a strong country—its industry—has suffered. Manufacturing's contribution to GDP has plummeted from 16% to 13%. There are insufficient job opportunities for the youth, leading many to return to rural areas, rendering the so-called youth benefits ineffective. The purported rapid (or fastest) growth has primarily been fueled by borrowing money, with a significant portion sourced from the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB), a Chinese institution established for Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) projects. India is the largest borrower from this bank, yet paradoxically, it warns other nations about falling into debt traps while finding itself ensnared in one. The borrowed funds have been channeled into infrastructure projects such as roads, airports, bridges, and dams, which, while superficially boosting growth, lack substantial technological advancements. The question remains: can these projects generate sufficient revenue to repay the interest owed each month? Despite the government's attempts to project an image of rapid progress, the reality is a façade aimed at duping citizens into reelecting them.
under Modi, :
1.India had by far the largest number of zero-food children (6.7 million), which is almost half of all zero-food children in the 92 countries included in this Harvard study.
2.74.1% of Indians unable to afford a healthy diet: FAO ReportReport provides startling figures of country’s position on malnutrition and stunted growth
3. with globe hunger index 111, 6th from the last one.
4. India’s Income Inequality Is Now Worse Than Under British Rule, New Report Says
5. Mumbai has the India most billionaires (297 of them) at the same time, Dharavi is a residential area in Mumbai, Maharashtra, India. It has often been considered to be one of the world's largest slums. Dharavi has an area of just over 2.39 square kilometres (0.92 sq mi; 590 acres) and a population of about 1,000,000.,
6. India has approximately 12 666 377 child labourers total. Uttar Pradesh, a state in northern India, has 19,27,997 child labourers. Delhi, the capital of India, has over 1 million child labourers.
Under Modi, instead as he promised to make manufacture of India in GDP from 16 % to 22% by 2022, it is actually dropped from 16% to 13%, instead as Modi promised to create 100 million jobs in manufacture, from 2017 to 2021 India manufacture lost 24 million jobs, the US WSJ just published an article, "India Wanted a Manufacturing Boom. Its Workers Are Back on the Farm Instead."
now the total employed population in India dropped from 52% to 46% under Modi
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a pc of advice, do not show off, do not bully your neighboring countries, do things better in your own country first.
1.India had by far the largest number of zero-food children (6.7 million), which is almost half of all zero-food children in the 92 countries included in this Harvard study.
2.74.1% of Indians unable to afford a healthy diet: FAO ReportReport provides startling figures of country’s position on malnutrition and stunted growth
3. with globe hunger index 111, 6th from the last one.
4. India’s Income Inequality Is Now Worse Than Under British Rule, New Report Says
5. Mumbai has the India most billionaires (297 of them) at the same time, Dharavi is a residential area in Mumbai, Maharashtra, India. It has often been considered to be one of the world's largest slums. Dharavi has an area of just over 2.39 square kilometres (0.92 sq mi; 590 acres) and a population of about 1,000,000.,
6. India has approximately 12 666 377 child labourers total. Uttar Pradesh, a state in northern India, has 19,27,997 child labourers. Delhi, the capital of India, has over 1 million child labourers.
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it was before a dream job for a life time, now they lost the chance and hope. next 4 years may have war with China, with this kind risk, no pension for later,
India always boast their professional army and laugh at China army, now they do the same as China army, so why become an amateur army?
it shows, India BJP does not know how to run a country, for the past 1000 years, India ruled by all kinds of foreign rulers and colonizers, only after 1947, Indian ruled by a bunch of foreign educated elite run India with western ideas and measures, did not work very well, then only in less than 10 run by BJP, unlike Congress, BJP trying to use Hinduism to run the country, well, it is a mess
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your former IAF chief, Birender Singh Dhanoa, is a spy for China, ever since he said "J20 is not stealthy, it can be detected by Su 30 over many many kilometers" (hhaha :)) what is this BS "many many kilometers" means haha :)) over 30 km? that is "many many kilometers", but J20 already launched a PL15 100 km away, haha :) , but anyway, with this BS from IAF chief, India does not pay attention to stealthy fighter s , then, it is already toooooooooooo late.
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Let me tell you another info that most Indians do not realize, for R&D, India put 0.65% of its GDP, which is $ 3550 billion x 0.0065 = $23 billion (for an entire country) of this year, however, for Huawei, this private company in China, , for the year of 2022 Huawei spent nearly $25 billion on R&D. So Huawei itself beat the whole India on R&D. for China, R&D is 2.5% of GDP, that is $18 trillion x 0.025 = $450 billion for R&D for this year, which is 19.5 time more money than India.
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India and China, with the same population, that is about the only thing same, we are totally different, in culture, ideology, religion, political system, society, value ..........which country is better, judged not by someone's opinion, but by numbers and data, human for being human, is they can produce, the advanced nation can produce material wealthy efficiently with industrialization and technology, backward nation cannot, they do not have advanced industry and high tech, so they need to buy industry produces from advanced industry nations which and make the products better and cheaper than they can do themselves, this is the key difference between India and China. others, such as Chinese are slaves of CCP, etc , are all the BS.
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The US is our competitor, India is our enemy. We do not seek any friendship from India. it is not we started this, it is India first to choose China as its enemy number 1. Modi got elected with promise to Indians to be tough on China, in 2017, not even seek to talk or go through diplomatic channel first, India directly send army into China's territory Doklam for 72 days until China will take military action so Indian army fled today PLA is still in Doklam,even built 2 larges villages, India dared not to do anything again, and then in 2020, Indian army attacked Galwan China side first, only got beaten miserably, it is clear, the whole India wants to have China as its enemy, it is just fine, we accept it.
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that shows Indians do not have good manner, I suggest you to watch Disney cartoon, Bambi, and remember what the little rabbit said " Mom told me, if you do not have anything nice to say to others, do not say anything at all"
Indians do not understand the meaning of "free speech", it does not mean you can freely insulting to other's and show no respect to others believes.
the core of India's trouble is what Indians spiritual essential, Hinduism, Hinduism cannot even be qualified as a religion but just a mixture of living style, fair tales, wishful thinking and dreams, it never worked in the history of India or India would not have been ruled and colonized for the entire 1000 yrs, it is not working now, as India GDP remains at 2.7% just the same as British left so no change for the past 75 years. , and therefore can predict, it will never work in future.
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@VishalKumar-nv3pi Xi never had a presidential aircraft, when Xi travels , he just rented a passenger plane from Air China, unlike Modi with his $1.1 billion Dreamliner Boeing 777 named India Air One . Xi saved all the money for lift Chinese farmers from poverty line, while Modi does not care India with global huger index 107, with 5.7 million malnutrition kids and 200 million under absolute poverty line, in fact, UN set standard, the country with average income under $2200 per capital is poor, India is at $2085, even lower than Bangladesh,
Modi should sell his Air India one and take an ox cart to travel to save money for 5.7 million malnutrition kids in India
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@sachinsingh5329 as nuke, read this, you do not know anything about nuclear weapons obviously, China's first H bomb was with 3 million tons TNT, India? does not have it, although they claim they have it, but max amount was 54 k t TNT, showed it was just a failed attempt. Secondly, India does not have any mobile nuclear missile as China's DF 26, DF 31 and DF 41, all India has is put Agni 5 on a tow cart, and can only launch it from certain fixed sites which are already targeted by China various missiles, in the first wave of war, they will be destroyed before firing, and China has multiple layers of anti ballistic missile system, from India to Beijing is 3300 km, from China to Delhi is 400 km, so if India dare to do it Delhi will be disappeared in about 5-10 min.
China has thermal nuclear warheads (if you know what that is) each one with about 300 kt TNT (if you know what means) India only has fission nuclear warheads (if you know what that means) with about 10-15 kt TNT, so each China's nuke head is about 30-20 times of India, let assume 20, western reported China has about 600 nuke warheads, India110 (assume them are true), then China has 20x600= 12000 equivalent vs 110 India has, yeah, good idea, let us play some nuke game, haha :))
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these people throw away the only good thing from this country, Buddhism, since the core of it is kindness, but the people of this country has all lost it, all they have left for them is boasting, and arrogant, rude, with no manners, .............. BJP is now pushing Hinduism to the extreme, to prove it is the best, BJP insulting other religions, Hinduism cannot even be qualified as a religion but just a mixture of living style, fair tales, wishful thinking and dreams, it never worked in the history of India or India would not have been ruled and colonized for the entire 1000 yrs, it is not working now, as India GDP remains at 2.7% just the same as British left so no change for the past 75 years. , and therefore can predict, it will never work in future.
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I bet she will not go, US army hate her, since they are going to fight a war for her action which US army does not want to, on the other hand, I wish she will go, since as we say, if something inevitable to happen, then let it happen. nowadays, war is fighting on industry strength, China's industry capability equals US and JP and Germany combined, Taiwan is 200 km from China, US 1s 10000 km away. so let it happen.
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not possible, Brahmaptura is also on the way, do you know China built the Padma bridge, do you for for the we had to know the area inside out? with all kind of surveys to the area, for river, river banks, climate, people, culture, we knew what you want to do, in that case it is an invasion to Bangladesh, we will send army to Bangladesh to defend the country.
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South Tiber was part of Tibet, not Assam, it is very easy to understand, basically it is ridge of Himalaya to the bottom, the south slope of Himalaya, we call South Tibet, traditionally was under Tibet. Himalaya ridge is about 600 km long and the slope width is about 100 -150 km , so the total area is about 60,000 or 90000 sq km, British draw McMahon line on the top ridge of Himalaya, the actual border should be at the bottom of the mountain, Never any Chinese government accepted McMahon line, India inherited illegal draw of the line and occupied it since 1952, we will take it back, with force if necessary.
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let me explain why China build bridge in there, In China side we have a strategic road called G 219, which is why China fought India in 1962 to get Aksai chin back to China, G219 is a major reason, since it is the road connect Xinjiang and Tibet, G 219 pass right at the east bank of Pangong Lake, from there the paved road to the finger regions on the north bank of Pangong Tso, and from the bridge build, by crossing Pangong lake, PLA can get to the area near Chushul and Rezang La , which are at south side of Pangong Tso, quickly.. and then next stop will be Leh, ............then Delhi.
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This country is short of everything but enemies, they cannot make anything, but very good at make new enemies.
that shows Indians do not have good manner, I suggest you to watch Disney cartoon, Bambi, and remember what the little rabbit said " Mom told me, if you do not have anything nice to say to others, do not say anything at all"
Indians do not understand the meaning of "free speech", it does not mean you can freely insulting to other's and show no respect to others believes.
the people of this country got some kind illness in their brains, they do not have anything to show off, they cannot make anything, they achieved nothing but so proud of themselves for nothing, also like a main anchor of wion channel, everyday she spreads hatred towards China and Pakistan, these people throw away the only good thing from this country, Buddhism, since the core of it is kindness, but the people of this country has all lost it, all they have left for them is boasting, and arrogant, rude, with no manners, ...............
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Very good, China, so proud of my motherland, we will take back South Tibet soon ! he is full of BS, "McMahon line" was not, is not, will never be recognized by China, ask him a question, why China should recognize a border seted up by British colonism ?? China is not India, we were never colonized by any one, you recognize whatever you like made up by your old master, but do not put it on to China, we do not give a fk to Britsh, nor to India in a much lesser level. :))
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@Thehomosapiens12 you should go to learn first, go to check some numbers first, China has grain per capita 484 kg, India? 225 kg. India global hunger index 101 in 106, China? less than 5 , together with 28 other countries with no hunger problem. The rice sold to China showed a significant problem in India, that is even with a huge number of people suffering from hunger and not enough food. one that control rice still sell it at a very cheap price (cheaper than from Vietnam) to other countries, they do not care about their own people at all, China imported it just for making some rice wine, not essential for China. India also has the world largest number of kid malnutrition in the world, kids are the future of a country, you are ruining your future.
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India has no ability of making SAR radar, all its SAR radar are imported from Israel, 3 years ago, when Assam got flooded, India asked UN help for satellite image in the areas, it was China provided high resolution SAR radar images in the area to show the extend of the flood. China now not just put SAR radar on satellite, but on airplane, bombers, drones, therefore, instead sending soldiers patrol the snow mountains in the area as India proudly show in its media and praise how brave they are, China just multiple satellites and drones to monitor the areas 24x7x365
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To fight China, India knew it is not a match to them, so India jumped into US lap for protection, however, with greedy, India does not listen to US but keep buying Russian oil, nobody is fo,ol US clearly realized India cannot be trusted, in turn US went to upgrade PAF F16, just show some color to India, only left India cry silently, haha 😁😁😁
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the key point is infustructure building is very essential for the economy development of the world, that is the idea proposed by Xi 10 years ago in 2013 , which is the core concept of BRI, the the whole world is realizing how correct of this idea is, and copying it with all kinds of different forms with different countries, no matter what, the copy right is own by China and Xi himselft, India was so against it from beginning, and made all kinds of dirty tricks , such as "debt trap" which was created by an Indian, to blacken it, however, now India is doing it, it just a slap on its own face, totally shameless
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There is no "argument" in India, since 'argument" consists of 2 parts. 1 opinion 2. fact supports opinion. In India they only have opinions which are based on what they believe, not fact needed. Only dependent on belief is called religion, based on fact and logic, is science. In India only religion, no science, nor logic. For religion, it originated with multiple gods, then graduated in Ancient Egypt under The Pharaoh Akhenaten, forming a single God, Sun god. but in India, Hinduism still remained as the most primitive form, with over 200 million different gods. this nation, never development, not fit to the modern civilization at all
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officially both US and India governments endorse Taiwan is a part of China, then in action, treat it not as a part of China, but a part of their own country?? (okok, independent country, happy??) haha :) so all these governments (both US and India) treat their statement as just BS or cow f...t?? so we can treat their statement as they should be, the pity is , we do not give a fk whatever you say, please take back your one China policy, we do not give a fk if you have it or not, we will take Taiwan.
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"make troubles,......... lost,.........make troubles again, ............lost again, ,,,,,.............until completely be destroyed" _________ Mao Zedong, that is a typical description for India. Nehru knew both Aksai chin and South Tibet are China's territory, but he insisted they were India's, with wish that if he insisted and showed force, China would just give them up to India, so he chose war to fight China, haha :)) how wrong was that, today Modi is on the same road as Nehru, he will get the same results as Nehru. our next step is to take South Tibet back
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@santoshjindal4628 NOT really, since you do not know anything about nuclear weapons obviously, China's first H bomb was with 3 million tons TNT, India? does not have it, although they claim they have it, but max amount was 54 k t TNT, showed it was just a failed attempt. Secondly, India does not have any mobile nuclear missile as China's DF 26, DF 31 and DF 41, all India has is put Agni 5 on a tow cart, and can only launch it from certain fixed sites which are already targeted by China various missiles, in the first wave of war, they will be destroyed before firing, and China has multiple layers of anti ballistic missile system, from India to Beijing is 3300 km, from China to Delhi is 400 km, so if India dare to do it Delhi will be disappeared in about 5-10 min.
China has thermal nuclear warheads (if you know what that is) each one with about 300 kt TNT (if you know what means) India only has fission nuclear warheads (if you know what that means) with about 10-15 kt TNT, so each China's nuke head is about 30-20 times of India, let assume 20, western reported China has about 600 nuke warheads, India110 (assume them are true), then China has 20x600= 12000 equivalent vs 110 India has, yeah, good idea, let us play some nuke game, haha :))
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the aids are for the AFG people, unlike India, lots of countries send aid to AFG, including Qatar, Pakistan, China, JP, US, Iran, Russia, Turkey.....with total of $1 billion value
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Situation has not changed in Tawang front since 1962, Oct 20 1962, after 1 day fight, PLA completely destroyed 7th Brigade of Indian army, captured its brigadier BG John Dalvi. heard the news, Indian army at Tawang just fled their positions, so PLA took whole Tawang without need fire a shot. Indian army put an defense position at Sela Pass, along the road 13, all the way to Bomdila, with heavy artillery in front try to stop PLA. PLA did not attack first, instead, PLA sent 600 soldiers went around the mountains in a road called Belly Trail, to cut at back of Indian army at Bomdila, so cut off the back of Indian army whole army was surrounded from Sela Pass to Bomdila, the whole army collapsed, they just run away from any tiny road they could find in mountains, impossible for PLA to catch them all, most of them run into Bhutan, which PLA respect never got into Bhutan, BG, Singh got kil.ed when he met PLA on way of fleeing . After Bomdila, there was no resistance, no army , all the way to Tezpur, Tezpur official heard the bad news, all run away, and the bankers burned all Indian currency in the banks.
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Unlike India only has a big mouth, when we want to save a place, we sent army, not just by talking, 72 years ago, we wanted to save North Korea from US occupation, we sent army to fight, and in 3 months time, we kicked all US army out of North Korea and kept it in the south for 72 years. Now, If India really wants to save TW, PLEASE NOT just open a big mouth BS in here, send your almighty army to TW to protect it, if you have any bllls (it will show you have none)
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Indians are always too late, they do not understand why now all develop hypersonic missiles, not just because of speed, it is the trajectory, your Agni V is old fashioned, once it launched, it trajectory can be calculated, China now has midcourse interception capability, your Agni v will be intercepted and destroyed in the course. On the hand hand, we use hypersonic missile, its trajectory is changeable, so it cannot be calculated and cannot be intercepted. simple, go to learn first. you are too naive and ignorance. all of you
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India's growth dropped from 8.3% to 6.7% already, next year will be dropped more, to 6.4%, Indians boast they can do math, so do it. If India wants to reach today China's GDP, which is $18 trillion in 2047. India needs to have a growth rate of above 7% for consecutive 23 years, yet your growth rate has already dropped to below 7%. which means, in 2047 you cannot even reach today's China's level.
let me tell you why, that is when China had the same GDP as India at $3.55 trillion, China's growth rate was 12%, not 7% a year.
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under the gem of India (read it as the trash of India) Jaishankar, India jumped into US arms for protection by joined quad to be a tool against China, US was very happy, and India thinks it is ally of US, happy too, but after all these years (quad has been there for over 20 yr, but Jaishankar pushed it to get more power) , however what real benefit India got from US in real? nothing, India up to today, got nothing back from US, Jaishankar now realized it, US is no help at all, so he now rushed to Russia seeking protection, but Russia is a no limit friend and brother of China, so again India will not get anything either from Russia, haha :) you have no way out but get more and more isolated around the world
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Good job China! keep going !
The entire issue in the eastern sector between China and India stems from the British's illegal claim to the entire South Tibet through the notorious McMahon Line, a claim that India never obtained before the British, nor could it achieve independently. Now, India is attempting to retain what it could not obtain on its own, but only inherited illegally from its former colonial master.
South Tibet was never claimed by the British; the McMahon Line was merely proposed by the British in 1914 as a negotiation tactic with the Chinese government. However, no Chinese government ever agreed to it. This is why Tawang, which should be on the west side of the McMahon Line according to maps, remained under the control of the Tibetan local government throughout the British Raj period, rather than being controlled by the British Raj. Tawang was only occupied on February 14, 1951, not by the British, but by Nehru's dispatched army. The PLA reached Lhasa in October 1952.
"Arunachal Pradesh Chief Minister Pema Khandu today announced that his government will set up a memorial for Major Bob Khathing, an Army officer who commanded a small team of soldiers to establish India's administrative control in Tawang, which borders China, in 1951."
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Under this gem of India (read it as trash of India), India is getting more isolated daily in its neighborhood, so it tried to jump into west US arms for protection, however, US just upgraded PAF F16, send diplomats to Azade Kashmir, block Indians visa to US but only take 2 days for Chinese.............not even invite India into AUKUS, India still defend it which has nothing to do with India, so low. once a slave, always wants to please the masters, now seems all of those do not work, so India swing back to Russia? haha :)) what a joke!
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India's got about 1/3 military budget compare to China's among it, 50%for salaries and pension, what left over for weapons, what left over for weapons is about 1/10 of China's , with imported weapon 3-5 times more expensive. that makes it only get 1/30 to 1/50 for obtain about same level weapons, and for more advanced weapon, no other countries would sell them to India, such as stealthy fighters, hypersonic missiles, attacking drones, .................that is just for 1 year, for 10 years, Indias' s real weapon/arms level is only about 1/300-1/500 of China's, most Indians would not believe it but still dreaming superpower 2020.
considering its size and money spend on them Indian army is the worst in the whole world. this army have never won any war against any others with the similar size or strength, much worse than N. Korea army, Vietnam army or even Afghanistan Taiban force, they can fight US army. of course it is a loser to China PLA in both 1962 and in 2020, as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious......."
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India's got about 1/3 military budget compare to China's among it, 50% for salaries and pension, what left over for weapons, what left over for weapons is about 1/10 of China's , with imported weapon 3-5 times more expensive. that makes it only get 1/30 to 1/50 for obtain about same level weapons, and for more advanced weapon, no other countries would sell them to India, such as stealthy fighters, hypersonic missiles, attacking drones, .................that is just for 1 year, for 10 years, Indias' s real weapon/arms level is only about 1/300-1/500 of China's, most Indians would not believe it but still dreaming superpower 2020.
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Shaikh Hasina is a much better PM than Modi who just flys around in his $1.1 billion Air India 1 with bugs embedded everywhere to show off and get nothing back for India, but cannot even make HSR in India, for a 56.1 km route take 5 years, so he just fired the one in charge with the name as corruption, used as his scapegoat, to hide his incapability. haha :)) China finished 20,000 km HSR in 5 yrs,
Shaikh Hasina does not go around to have meetings, but focused on building Bangladesh
also she is much better than PM and President brothers of Sri Lanka, they do not know reality of Sir Lanka, with unrealistic projects, such as no chemical agriculture, totally ruined this country's agriculture and made the country bankrupt.
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air show, as its name says, it is just a show, in real air battle today, it does not mean much, today all BVR air battle, no matter its "superior flying manoeuvers" wont help much, since the limit for a pilot tolerance of G force will be about 9 G, same for the jet, but air to air missile can do 30-40 g easily, this jet max speed 1.6, missile can go Mach 4. Therefore most important is radar and missile, JF 17 III got AESA radar can detect Tejas over 170 km and with same range missile PL 15 to shoot it down no matter how Tejas's "superior flying manoeuvers"
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Fighters must be big to have powerful engines, to have heavy better radar, more powerful electronics, carry more weapons with more missiles and bombs, , carry more fuel to stay longer in the air with longer fighting range. light jet is useless, they are not stealthy, they cannot run faster than missiles chasing it, they cannot carry much fuel Tejas only can stay in fighting in the air for 30 min and they cannot fly far, and it can only carry 3 tons of bombs, Su 30 MKK can carry 12 tons, India Su30 MKI due the thrust vectoring control (TVC) , can carry 9 tons. China's J16, 12 tons, J20 11 tons.
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compare to India Tibetans average GDP per person is near $10000 vs India's $2250, Tibet with people 6 per sq km, compare to India's 440 :)) Tibet has no air pollution, compare to India Air quality index (AQI) and PM2.5 air pollution in India near 200 year around, and got to 500 in winter in Dehli, :) Tibet has high speed rail to travel the whole India does not.
Each Tibet family in the area has at least 100 yaks, each can be sold from $ 1500 to $4000 (RMB 10000-30000 yuan), once they have money, Tibetans like to buy cars, they like Toyota Landcruiser very much which cost about $60000 in China, one village near Lhasa is called Landcruiser village since every one family has a Toyota landcruiser.
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@surojeetchatterjee India as a nation (Hindus) has never been a nation shown good at fighting and from thousands of years of survival (they do not have a history, but only survived) , they seldom had any hero in the past. for thousands for years, this nation was conquered by all kinds of foreign intruders, Persians, Turks, Mongules, .....British, you name it, Hindu, beside the BS Hinduism which cannot even be qualified as a real religion but all fairy tales, day dreams. .......has no history, their so called history are actually those intruders who founded their rule in this piece of land we call India today, where no resistance, and not change for the intruders for thousands of years. today it remains the same, this nation has never been able to show they can fight a real war against an enemy with the similar size and strength. Not like Korea, Afghanistan, or Vietnam. It is the nature of this nation, all they have is a big boasting mouth, nothing else.
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@hemantgokhale4164 India as a nation (Hindus) has never been a nation shown good at fighting and from thousands of years of survival (they do not have a history, but only survived) , they seldom had any hero in the past. for thousands for years, this nation was conquered by all kinds of foreign intruders, Persians, Turks, Mongules, .....British, you name it, Hindu, beside the BS Hinduism which cannot even be qualified as a real religion but all fairy tales, day dreams. .......has no history, their so called history are actually those intruders who founded their rule in this piece of land we call India today, where no resistance, and not change for the intruders for thousands of years. today it remains the same, this nation has never been able to show they can fight a real war against an enemy with the similar size and strength. Not like Korea, Afghanistan, or Vietnam. It is the nature of this nation, all they have is a big boasting mouth, nothing else.
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China uses Marxism as the core of its base for the ideology, the core of Marxism is "Seek Truth from Facts", so we make policies all need to be based facts, on real number real data, not just based on what we believe. India is different since in India, "fact" is not important, what other people, such as west and US said, it important, so they have all the political system and ideology from west, and do not see they do not work for India at all.
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Jaishankar is the worst FM in the whole history of republic of India, under him what India achieved in diplomacy?? make relationship with China worse got 20 Indian army killed, lost all 10 pp in Ladakh, all South Asian countries are getting closer to China, US sent warship into India EEZ and does not provide a single dose of vaccine to India, lost Russia as ally but Russia got more connection with Pakistan , he is just a joke, US cannot keep the burden of 40 million AFG, how can US afford to defend 1.4 billion India against the real superpower China?? God is far, China is just at the door step. completely lost everything in AFG but created a new enemy for India, as famous Indian export from US Fareed Zakaria said, "India does not have a foreign policy and does not have a forward looking policy that is designed to have some control the external environment to shape that environment in way to raise India's interest , India becomes a passive observer of what is happening" , India got nothing under Modi and Jaishankar.India hopelessly observed Taliban invited Qatar, Iran, Pakistan, Russia, Turkey, China.... without India, India hopeless watched $3 Billion of Indians hard earned money gone with wind in AFG. ..India hopelessly observe that next stop of Taliban will be Kashmir,,,
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China, unlike India, is a country guided by the thought of Marxism and Mao's thought,, the core of it is "seek truth from facts", not as India, which is seek truth from 250 million Gods in Hinduism, which never worked for India, from the past 1000 years to now. the pity is, Indians never see this simple fact, still dreaming those useless Gods will give them a better life.
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due to sharp up slope of Ladakh, India's tanks (such as T90s) cannot climb up to the area (with about 4500 meters high above Indian plain around Delhi), they need to be air lifted to the area, in war, with China's air superiority, it is impossible, China PLAAF will shoot down all the transporter (with whatever inside) easily. but on the China side, it is just flat plain, so China's tanks can be shipped on heavy trucks to Chushul via the bridge quickly and easily, the results will be 30000 India army need to shoot Chinese T99A tanks with AK202. good luck! then India can make more fairy tales like 1 India soldier destroyed 100 China tanks,
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there is a limit in so called people living in somewhere so it is their right to get separated from a country, the very good example is US itself, the South wanted to get independent and separated from rest of the US, however, Lincoln did not give a fk about that, he led the US army completely defeated "independents", and US civil war caused over 650000 death of Americans, more than all the war after that combined, including both world war, korean war, vietnam war, etc etc. Now Lincoln is considered the greatest US president.
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India is a country full of fundamental self contradictory, in it constitution, it claimed it is a "socialist" country, in its ideology and political system, it is a capitalist country, the core of western ideology and capitalism are everyone has full right to work for oneself, the nature of it is "total complete selfishness", however, if let is happen without limit, this country consists of original 562 "princely states" (or tribes) will get disintegrated, to solve this, since "socialism" in this totally selfishness country never can work, so BJP promoted Hinduism since it is the only common thing for all Hindus. Hinduism does not even qualify a real religion, and never worked in India history, as shown under Hinduism, India was ruled by all kinds of foreign intruders, such as Persians, Turks, Mongules and British, as any old culture in the world, including Chinese culture, will all kind good things and bad things in it, unlike in China, we critisize the bad things in traditional Chinese culture, BJP lead India inherit whole Hinduism and trying to push it in its extreme form Hinditva , with this in process, it further increase the hatred to the people with other religions, and even affected the relationship of India with other Muslim countries.
Since Hinduism is so powerful , ancient India was so glories, so today's India should be the same, should be superpower, how to prove it is a superpower? by setting up China this 'third world' country as its enemy, so even if India cannot match up to US, but at least it should defeat China to a boss in Asia. well, reality has not worked out for yet, but will soon. hah :))
With all kind competition from the world and with huge amount of China's industrial products (mainly machinery and electronic parts) imported into India, India's industry cannot compete. main India exports are agricultural and raw materials.
With extremely low agriculture efficiency, and rapid population growth, India will suffer huge food shortage in the near future, currently, China's grain production is 484 kg pe capita, India with 25% more arable land, only 225 kg, this reflecting per unit size land India's grain yield is only about 1/3 of China's,
but hey, keep dreaming Supper power 2020 is always fun and cost nothing.
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Indians like to blame others for the failures. Congress blamed BJP, BJP blamed Congress, together all Indians blame China, the fact is it is every single one of you to blame, you are a "democracy', each one of you is responsible for all success or failure, since you have no success. as for trade, bottom reason is you, as everyone of you, cannot make products that can compete in the world market, your blame game is totally useless.
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@FoxDeadly Not a single foreign head went to India's Republic Day, but lots of them will go to Beijing for Olympics:
Putin,Russia President, Poland President, Argentina President, all 5 Presidents of central Asian countries (invited all to India for RD, but none of them came), Singapore president, King of Cambodia, PM of Mongolia. President of Ecuador .......and of course our iron brother , PM of Pakistan hah :)) ..................😁😁😁
We have friends all over the world, India is getting isolated day by day, 😁😁😁
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compare to Nehru government, current ones are all cowards, since Nehru not only with words, more importantly, with actions, current ones, only with big words, Nehru in 1962, ordered Indian army "kick the Chinese out", with full support from his defense minister V. K. Krishna Menon and his army, which lead by army chief and commander of the 4 th army in front line, Lieutenant General, Brij Mohan Kaul, they were so brave, they fought, regardless the results, their heroic braveness will be remembered. Today. facing China in 2020, Modi did not even dare to mention China's name,
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for Indians, once they heard Modi said they will do this or that, for them, it is done, so they wait, then nothing happens, and they forgot what Modi said already, then Modi comes out to draw a big pie in the air again, then again, Indians are so happy, .............this cycle repeats.................... :))
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India is weak, and scared of China, so India trying to jump on to US laps to get protection from the US, it is totally understandable, however, the US is not fool. The US takes advantage of this mindset of India, sell its outdated weapons to India to make money, if the US really wants to protect India, why not the US just give the weapon for India for free to let India use them to fight China but with 3 times higher prices? Clearly the US only treats India as a weapon customer, so called strategic partner is just an empty word, like a car seller would say all kinds of nice words. One thing should be clear, the US is the master, not a door boy for India.
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we are taking serious action, building the bridge for our heavy tanks to pass directly get into Chushul and Rezang La areas quickly, due to the height of the area, Indian cannot send tanks to the area, and also with air coverage from Hotan to cover tanks from air, Indian army in the area only with Insas rifle to fight China tanks, that will create all heroic stories later such as 1 India soldier destroyed 100 Chinese tanks, ........we just do not care, next stop is Leh, and then Delhi. while at the same time Indian government is closely monitoring China tanks get pass Gate of India, and Indians netters will have more wonderful ideas. hah :))
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@car9167 where you got your number???
here is from goo gle
Ukrainian forces (ZSU, NGU) 24 February – 19 April 2022 5,500–11,000 killed, 18,000+ wounded
24 February – 3 June 2022 10,000 killed, 30,000 wounded
Russian forces (RAF, Rosgvardiya, FSB)
24 February – 23 June 2022 4,010+ killed
24 February – 23 June 2022 3,854+ killed
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India never had a clear mind, no brain at all, hah :) they forgot why you joined quad and jumped into US arms. The number 1 enemy of India is China, that was why India jumped into quad and US to seek US and quad help to counter China, anything changed in this situation? certainly not, China is getting stronger daily. and China is a friend of Russia with no limitation. Now for making some money from Russia, India jumped back to Russia, haha :)) and pissed US off, very good, we will start to take our South Tibet soon, who will come to help India? haha :)) will Russia fight China for India? will US fight for India? haha, in your fking dreams.
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not many Indians know about nuclear weapons obviously, China's first H bomb was with 3 million tons TNT, India? does not have it, although they claim they have it, but max amount was 54 k t TNT, showed it was just a failed attempt. Secondly, India does not have any mobile nuclear missile as China's DF 26, DF 31 and DF 41, all India has is put Agni 5 on a tow cart, and can only launch it from certain fixed sites which are already targeted by China various missiles, in the first wave of war, they will be destroyed before firing, and China has multiple layers of anti ballistic missile system, from India to Beijing is 3300 km, from China to Delhi is 400 km, so if India dare to do it Delhi will be disappeared in about 5-10 min.China has thermal nuclear warheads (if you know what that is) each one with about 300 kt TNT (if you know what means) India only has fission nuclear warheads (if you know what that means) with about 10-15 kt TNT, so each China's nuke head is about 30-20 times of India, let assume 20, western reported China has about 600 nuke warheads, India110 (assume them are true), then China has 20x600= 12000 equivalent vs 110 India has, yeah, good idea, let us play some nuke game, haha :))
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India once wanted to build Rafale in India, did not work, since setting up a production and testing line is huge, and France will not share core tech with India, you need to produce 500 to 1000 to get the investment back, India cannot afford it, same for Tejas, India cannot sell a single one to any other country, so cannot get the investment back, cannot reduce the cost on it, even for 20 yr India got license from Russia for building Su30 MKI, upto now still needs to import over 1500 parts and raw material from Russia and cost of making it in India is more expensive than directly buying it from Russia, same will be true for F21 or any other weapons,
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@somaiahchettranda6705 PR China under CCP founded by Mao, totally different from China before 1949, under GMT (now in TW), PR China never lost any war since its founding in 1949, do not use Nanking in 1930s to judge PRChina.
1. 1950 Korean war, took PLA only 3 months to kick all US army out of Korea
2. 1962, completely wipe out entire India army, took 30000 sq km Aksai chin back to China
3. 1967, not a real war, but a border skirmish, with each side only shot each other with artillery, no real attack therefore, no win or lost,
4. 1969, fight with Soviet Union for an island, today, this island is still in China, and signed treaty with Russia in 1999.
5. 1972, fight South Vietnam sunk multiple Vietnam warships and occupied whole Parcel Islands in SCS.
6. 1979, fight Vietnam, till 1989, took back whole territory, and after that signed treaty with Vietnam to have all the territory in China
7. 1984, fight Vietnam, in 318 sea battle and win to occupy the island in SCS
8. 1987, fight India, and won later India PM visited China seek peace
9. 2020, Galwan, no need to say, see photo,
as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ..........."
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Indians can talk about general things, with their fantastic dreams, with everything so pink pretty in future, they cannot solve the detailed particular tech issues. One example is their GTRE GTX-35VS Kaveri jet engine, with pretty plans after spent $millions nothing came out, so India gave it up, it all depend on solve details, such as how to make alloy, how to test it, how to build testing facilities, all of these cost huge amount of money, which India does not have, this thing is only getting worse due to future weapons requires more money input. India is poor, has no money on it.
total budget of India in spending is only $400 billion, about 1/9.25 of China's
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Anthony Klan's number was from media count not from battle field count. totally worthless. US number was from satellite watch the car/truck movement, TASS umber from some guy's head, haha :))
let us assume you own the fight, then the number should not be a question that needs other countries to provide, if you won, you could just stay there, counted the PLA you killed, counted them, and took photos, made video, .......................well, none of those happened, so it only showed, your soldiers fled in a hurry to run for their lives, haha :)))
at that night, only 3 almighty army got killed directly (including Col Babu) , other 17 s were wounded and fall into Galwan river, however, all the other comrades were in a hurry to run for their own lives, nobody bothered to dared to rescue them, they only came back next morning to pick them up from the river, Indian doctors showed, they were dead due to cold, not mainly due to the wound. we admire this almighty army to the bone.
the danger of this kind news is, if India media keeps doing this , it will provoke China release more photos and videos, looking forward to seeing them 😁😁😁
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India can NEVER be trusted, in 1962, India shouted China Indi baibai but pushed into China's territory, only be beaten back, lose war miserably, 2017, again, this trouble maker sent army directly into Doklam, and fled get nothing, today, PLA is still in Doklam and made it a fortress. 2020, again, Indian attacked China side first, only be beaten the sht out of again, as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious......."
it is time to finish this trouble maker once for all.
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hah :)) what a joke, you do not even know how to read the rank report, go back read it again, there is a over all rank at the left side of the table, in it, IAF is behind Egypt air force, far away from China, the trick of the report is they divided the airforce in to many sections.
Egypt has more Rafale, they are ordering 30 more, with current 24, total 54, you have 36, they have F 16 CD, you do not, they have Su 35, you do not.
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Jaishankar is the worst FM in the whole history of republic of India, under him what India achieved in diplomacy?? make relationship with China worse got 20 Indian army killed, lost all 10 pp in Ladakh, all South Asian countries are getting closer to China, US sent warship into India EEZ and does not provide a single dose of vaccine to India, lost Russia as ally but Russia got more connection with Pakistan , he is just a joke, US cannot keep the burden of 40 million AFG, how can US afford to defend 1.4 billion India against the real superpower China?? God is far, China is just at the door step. completely lost everything in AFG but created a new enemy for India,
as famous Indian expert from US Fareed Zakaria said, "India does not have a foreign policy and does not have a forward looking policy that is designed to have some control the external environment to shape that environment in way to raise India's interest , India becomes a passive observer of what is happening" , India got nothing under Modi and Jaishankar.
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@ilmakhanafridi9396 2019 Barakot "surgical strike" was a total disaster for India, it showed a real capability of India, which is a total mess. 1. the strike could not hit a single target, but killed some pine trees and a crow. Indians had no idea why since the "smart bombs" worked perfectly in practice, they have no idea what is in the in the invisible battle field. 2. before the attack , the big mouth India had already talked about they would do such attack, so stpd to let Pakistan to get prepared. 3. in the operation, they let their AWACS transponder open for everyone to listen to it, where it went, where the jets would go and at what time , via what route. :)) can you be more stupd than that?? 4. Sent 50 years old mig 21 to fight, Abinandan in his first recall of the event said, he was looking for enemy, then suddenly got hit by missile, he did not say anything about fire a missile, later Indian make up lies about he fired and shot down an F16 first, total BS. 6. to prove this, Indians showed AWACS radar image, which should be top military secret, they said "hey, see, 2 spots here, represent 2 F16, then disappeared " haha :) it only showed Indians , especially IAF, had no idea what electric magnetic warfare means to them. 7. in a hurry, an Indian missile shot down an Indian helicopter and ki,,,lled all 9 on board, the whole thing is totally a mess, showed India has no ability to handle a modern warfare. totally a loser!
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Unless Naxalite took the power in whole India, there will never be real peace between India and China, since the differences are foundational, by nature, any government of India will work for the interests of Ambanis, their interests are to hold to their power and wealthy, for doing this, they need to be against China so they can have their products occupies India market, and keep making money, at the same time, they will keep the gape between rich and poor to the maximum for them to enjoy themselves, poverty for them is not a concern but a benefit. they will use western value to fool the people to let them think it is the value of the developed and "civilized" countries would do, such as US and west, and use all kind lies via the media (like this one) to black paint on China. They will keep the current fake "democracy" to justify the power they got, to provide "freedom" to ordinary people, which has no real use for them but use it for BS and daydreaming all the time but get nothing done.
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Modi cannot fulfill almost all what he promised in the election year, with huge India youth without any jobs, with huge trade deficient, with rapid reduction in the amount of Foreign exchange reserve, with rupee falling like a waste paper, with total over 40% of government budget from debt, with the trend to be the second SL, with huge population growth faster than the economy can come up with, that made this year on Independent Day Modi did not dare to make more detailed promise with numbers as he did in the election, he could only draw an empty big pie in the air without any real meaning, no number, no data in it, supporting him for what?
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due to the bully of India to these countries, India feels itself is a superpower in the region, like interfere with the neighboring countries internal affairs, India controls Bhutan's foreign and defense, in 2015, due to not like the election of Nepal, India sanctioned the essentials to Nepal, similar things to Sri Lanka, to Maldives, at the same time, India's average income is even lower than Bangladesh.
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some basic knowledge about jet engine,
Kaveri engine, with metal alloy, max power 71 kn India cannot make anything other than metal alloy in engine material
GE404, max power 81 kn, now used in Tejas which India cannot sell a single one to any other country.
GE414, Max power, 91 kn, needs mono crystal alloy, which India has no ability to make, used in 3rd gen fighters,
All stealthy fighters need engine with ceramic alloy made engine, with above 140 kn, max power, F22's 153 kn, F35's 190 kn, AL 41 for Su 57, 141 kn. WS 15 for J20 180 kn. US will not TOT this kind engine to India.
GE414 will only waste money with no use in counter China, it is your money, waste it as much as you like
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@amanverma7033 those were all old corrupted government, that is why CCP lead Chinese people overthrown them, kicked KMT to Taiwan, got back HK, ,,,after CCP took power, not a single country can invade China, .......seems you want to praise CCP? hah :)) you are so welcome to do so, we do not mind you remind us the old past, actually it is our national anthem, go read the lyrics, made in anti Japanese war, we will never change it.
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India's foreign policy under Modi and Jaishankar, with core of anti China, and close US, made this country get more isolated everyday, clearly US will not help much, Russia is only polite to India, just like a seller to a customer, nothing more than that. there is no common national interest between India and Russia, but huge common national interests between China and Russia. US only uses India as a tool to against China, but US will never treat India as its ally or friend, if US does not want fight Russia for Ukraine, US certainly will not fight India for China. This situation will not change, because anti China is a core policy of India, does not matter with BJP or Congress. this is due to majority of Indian people's anti China attitude, the party that does not anti China or firmly anti China, or show any friendly attitude to China which will be considered soft or surrender to China will not get elected. Even this attitude harms India more than harms China,but India will keep going on this way, nothing can do about it.
For China, we should not expect any "friendly" attitude from India, we just keep sell our products to India to make money, and keep pressure on India, show firmly in border conflict. and with time come, take back South Tibet, in the process, encourage NE states get independent from India. Let India keep on the road of anti China, since this way will hurt India more, but with little impact on China's development.
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the key is Indians have no talent nor money to make things themselves. it is the fate, with more high tech involved in the weapons, India will get farther lag behind, with a country ' GDP only 1/6 of China, and R&D budget is on 0.7% of its GDP, compare to China's 2.2%, the difference in 6x2.2/0.7=18.5 each year, for 10 years, that is 185 times. the number 1 university in India ranked behind 500 in the world, compare to China, China's scientific papers has over taken US as the number 1 in the world, same as patents. India is country totally has no hope, no future
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it was before a dream job for a life time, now they lost the chance and hope. next 4 years may have war with China, with this kind risk, no pension for later,
India always boast their professional army and laugh at China army, now they do the same as China army, so why become an amateur army?
compare to 10% job promise, in China, almost 100% job guarantee from army for after the service in the army, , besides that, also a large sum of cash so they can also have their own business if they want.
it shows, India BJP does not know how to run a country, for the past 1000 years, India ruled by all kinds of foreign rulers and colonizers, only after 1947, Indian ruled by a bunch of foreign educated elite run India with western ideas and measures, did not work very well, then only in less than 10 run by BJP, unlike Congress, BJP trying to use Hinduism to run the country, well, it is a mess ,
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India treat "democracy" as a goal, do not realize it is just a way to make the country strong and make people to be rich in good living, under BJP's democracy, India's GDP growth dropped to 4% before pandemic (so do not blame it), the average income is now below that in Bangladesh. This is how "democracy" works in India, the poorest among G20 on average income. US criticized India's human right situation is getting worse under BJP, and so called "freedom" in India only means BS whole day and get nothing done. BJP with all kind of empty promises, such as provide jobs but only can get 1% of its promised. and so called "make in India" is just an empty slogan. Modi and Amit Shah are working for Ambani and Adani groups, many policies are benefiting them instead common India people, such as the Farmers bill and boycott China, all these will help Ambani and Adani (think why)
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Ujjwal Pathak right only believe India superpower 2000, ,2010,, 2020, ,,,,2025, haha :))
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@kiranjha4760 OKOK to prove I am not a bot, I will write something
1. BJP better than Congress, does not mean it is good, ok do you have concept of logic?? BJP can be bad, Congress could be worse. they are both bad, haha :))
2. as I have said, your GDP growth dropped to 4% before the pandemic, seems you never read things carefully.
3. If less population is an excuse for India income got less than Bangladesh then how can you explain China got more population but has average income 5.7 times of yours?? secondly seem you suggest that India should break up to 50 small countries so they will get more average income?? hah :)) good idea
4. what BS about industry hub?? what you make all by yourselves??? nothing, 70 % of your cellphones are China brand, 20 % Korean, 10% apple and others none of your own, you cannot make any weapon but import from rifle, bullets to jets, what attraction?? show real thing, which you have none!
5. as for Ambani thing, while millions of Indians dropped back to poverty level, these two guys 's wealthy in jumped sky high, to $80 billion and $55 billion respectively, the reason is Modi provide them with huge benefit and policy beneficial to them. Read the article Titled, " India’s New Industrial Policy Is Doomed to Fail" on July 16, 2021 by Mihir Sharma
6. China's products are mainly for the small business, by boycotting China's products, Ambani's and such big capitalists win since ordinary Indians will buy more from them to make them get more Monopoly to make them richer and at same more people will have to pay higher price to make their living harder, and hurt small business in India since it makes them more difficult to compete with Ambanis big capitalist.
7. Farmers, with new bill, Indian government will not be responsible for farmers products, and all pushed into market , however, India's farming is very low efficiency, India has 25% more arable land than China, but the total yield is only less than 1/2 of China's, the low efficiency means high cost, India's grain has not much profit space to compete in world market, Ambanis, can simply import from world market, and sell to India, and at the same time, they can use it to set the price for the grain or other agriculture products to form monopoly too, India farmers and ordinary people will suffer , only Ambanis got huge benefit.
as for your personal insulting? it only showed how low you are, I am not going to lower myself to your level.
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a smart UK PM would do just the opposite, he would go to China, to seek opportunities, to increase the export to China, to provide what UK is good at, like financing investment, so much opportunity there, China is huge, with huge market for the tiny UK, any little bit from China will help UK a lot, but no, he cannot do it, he is an Indian to the bone. which means, fail!
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Under this gem of India (read it as trash of India), India is getting more isolated daily in its neighborhood, so it tried to jump into west US arms for protection, however, US just upgraded PAF F16, send diplomats to Azade Kashmir, block Indians visa to US but only take 2 days for Chinese.............not even invite India into AUKUS, India still defend it which has nothing to do with India, so low. once a slave, always wants to please the masters, now seems all of those do not work, so India swing back to Russia? haha :)) what a joke!
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Bangladesh is the second largest Chinese weapon buyer only next to Pakistan and it number 1 weapon import country, China, the second is Russia, nowhere to find India. Bangladesh bought weapons from covers for army and navy and airforce, with tanks, jet fighters, frigates and submarines, ...........so in the west, India fight Pakistan using China made weapons, to the east, it is the same, so good for India, easy to handle , :))
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@sujok-acupuncture9246 in so called 5000 years of India culture, the best thing came out from India was Buddhism, the core of it is kindness, and it stated everyone, rich or poor, no matter from which class or social status, is equal. a direct challenge to the Hindu caste system, however, since it is too complicated for Indians to understand, it was dropped by Indians, but welcomed by more intelligent people in East and South East Asia. Indians went back to the trash Hinduism, today, it getting worse, BJP pushes it to the extreme form as Hindtva, just a simple fact, Hinduism never saved India in history, for the past 1000 years, India was ruled by all kinds of foreign intruders, Hinduism did not, could not do anything to stop them. if it did not work then, how can it work now??
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@sujok-acupuncture9246 that is just I pointed out obviously you do not understand, Hinduism never worked for India, so for the past 1000 years, India was invaded and ruled by all kinds of foreign intruders, such as Persians, Turks, Monguls and British, if it did not work then how can it work now?? However BJP is promoting it and even to the extreme form as HIndtva, Sure China also suffered in recent history by invasion and bullies by the west and Japan, however, difference is we realized the old Chinese ideology, as you pointed out, Confucious or Bhuddism, not work for China, we adapted Marxism, and established new China, since then, started at the same time and same level as India, China is a light year ahead of India in all aspects and the second largest economy in the world and will replace US in just less than a decade time.
India is not a super power in any sense, it is just a poor backward country, totally without any hope or future as we can see based on the history.
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@neeketjha
India is a country with all kinds of fundamental problems which can never be solved ,which made this country totally has no future and no hope. One thing, only an example of many, unlike China had been an intact country for 3500 years , India was formed from 562 tribes (call them as Princeful states), and ruled by all kinds of foreign intruders, such as Persians, Turks, Monguls, and British,.............how to get them to form a integrated country? Congress used western value inherited from British, did not work well, BJP under Modi now used Hinduism, however, it cannot even be qualified as real religion, and for the past thousands of years, it never worked, otherwise India would not have been conquered by a single British company for more than 250 years. Now the BJP pushes Hinduism into its extreme form, HInditva, it is getting worse, since it will surely make the problems with Muslims in India, with more than 200 million of them, worse, how can India be peaceful in this kind situation?? Nothing can solve this internal issue, unless India totally become as in China an atheist country in which all religions are tolerated but no in dominance in the country. This is one aspects, more fundamental problems in India, all cannot be solved, all of these made India has no future and no hope. and Indians cannot realize all these, all they can do is dreaming Superpower 2020.
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in quad, US is 10000 km away from Asia, India is next door to China at Himalaya, why we need to go around to IO? Delhi is only 400 km from China border. Japan is nothing, in today's world, JP as a few small islands, have no where to hide, or in political term is "no strategic depth", Australia? it only has sheep wool and iron ores, Even Solomon sign security treaty with China did not give fk about Australia, and with China warships went around Australia, Morris lost election.
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Indians judge their leader just by their feelings, for them as long as the leader makes them feel happy, that is the most important, same as opium, make you feel happy, but will .k..you in long run, for Indians have no concept of evidence by on data and facts and reality
Under Modi, growth rate is about 3.5% for all the years, in recent 5 years, more foreign companies moved out of India than those moving into India, with India's average income lower than Bangladesh which was only 2/3 of India just a few years ago, the most important is under Modi's Make in India, India manufacturing , instead as Modi promised to raise it from 16% to 22% of India GDP in 2022, it actually dropped from 16% to 13%, and jobs in manufacturing reduced from 53 million to 27 million
well, sure it is your PM, who cares, wish Modi get elected again, so he can ruin India faster
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Under BJP India made fatal mistakes that is very good for China, under BJP, India withdrawn from Su 57 stealthy fighter project, paid Russia $300 million as penalty, in this stealthy fighter era, bought 36 (not 126) Rafale, haah :) such a fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff...lll hha :)) Rafale to 5 th stealthy fighter got gap deference, that will never be improved or upgraded, this gap means, 1 5th stealthy fighter can shoot down 100 un-stealthy one, total IAF only has 36, not even enough for 1 J20 from China, (sure all you can say is BS J20 not stealth), and now China has put J20 in Hotian airport near Ladake, so in 30 min time it can visit Delhi, drop bombs and nothing IAF can do about it. :)
that it not the end, with Su 57 project, not only the jet, India also will get much need jet engine of AL 41, with 175 kn, do you know what engine Rafale has ? M88 mx power 75 kn, hah :)
your expected AMCA, with GE 414? hah 90 kn, you want to have joined project with France for jet for so called 5th fighter? 125 kn, haha :)) do you know China jet for J10 c to PAF? WS10b? 140 kn, China WS 15 for J20? 180kn,
this means, even your dreams now for your jets will be far worse than what China is using now.
how can you fight China?? haha :)
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honestly speaking, there is just no way out for India, the road of importing weapons will not keep India up with its major enemy China, as for make in India weapons, well, even more impossible, therefore, any money spend on weapons, for importing or for making in India, is just totally waste, therefore, the only way out for India is completely give up, but with AK 203 or each adult during the war, and save all the money to give them to the people, to improve India's global hunger index from 111 to below 100. in theory ,no one wants to occupy India again to have a burden to feed 1.4 billion people
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it is never work that way as if China can India also can, you do not have any signs of that, but Bangladesh has the sign, today, Bangladesh is the second largest fashion/clothing exporter in the world, that is exactly China did in 1990s, this provide job opportunities and decent income for the people, tell me, what you have in India?? IT can only provide few jobs, tell me what your industry products can compete in the world market?? (even light industry like clothing), do not tell me spices, that is agriculture, India put a wet market sells girl as its finance minister, hah :) how can it develop its economy?? India is a country completely has no hope and no future.
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@waitwhat3547 hah :))
you do not know anything about nuclear weapons obviously, China's first H bomb was with 3 million tons TNT, India? does not have it, although they claim they have it, but max amount was 54 k t TNT, showed it was just a failed attempt. Secondly, India does not have any mobile nuclear missile as China's DF 26, DF 31 and DF 41, all India has is put Agni 5 on a tow cart, and can only launch it from certain fixed sites which are already targeted by China various missiles, in the first wave of war, they will be destroyed before firing, and China has multiple layers of anti ballistic missile system, from India to Beijing is 3300 km, from China to Delhi is 400 km, so if India dare to do it Delhi will be disappeared in about 5-10 min.
China has thermal nuclear warheads (if you know what that is) each one with about 300 kt TNT (if you know what means) India only has fission nuclear warheads (if you know what that means) with about 10-15 kt TNT, so each China's nuke head is about 30-20 times of India, let assume 20, western reported China has about 600 nuke warheads, India110 (assume them are true), then China has 20x600= 12000 equivalent vs 110 India has, yeah, good idea, let us play some nuke game, haha :))
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It is a lie that India GDP passed UK, Do you know the UK's budget for 2021? that was 1 trillion British pounds or $1.3 trillion USD, do you know India's for the same time? $400 billion, that is only less than 1/3 of the UK, do you know why? Why does India have no money for the government to spend on the country? simple, India GDP is a faked, so called pass UK is just a fairy tale, India's real GDP is about $1.8 trillion, not $3.2 trillion, you may make up your GDP number, but you do not have real money to spend,
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@pradeepkhoiwal9196 you do not know anything about nuclear weapons obviously, China's first H bomb was with 3 million tons TNT, India? does not have it, although they claim they have it, but max amount was 54 k t TNT, showed it was just a failed attempt. Secondly, India does not have any mobile nuclear missile as China's DF 26, DF 31 and DF 41, all India has is put Agni 5 on a tow cart, and can only launch it from certain fixed sites which are already targeted by China various missiles, in the first wave of war, they will be destroyed before firing, and China has multiple layers of anti ballistic missile system, from India to Beijing is 3300 km, from China to Delhi is 400 km, so if India dare to do it Delhi will be disappeared in about 5-10 min.
China has thermal nuclear warheads (if you know what that is) each one with about 300 kt TNT (if you know what means) India only has fission nuclear warheads (if you know what that means) with about 10-15 kt TNT, so each China's nuke head is about 30-20 times of India, let assume 20, western reported China has about 600 nuke warheads, India110 (assume them are true), then China has 20x600= 12000 equivalent vs 110 India has, yeah, good idea, let us play some nuke game, haha :))
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100 years ago, CCP founder, Professor Li Dazhao (Mao Zedong's tutor) of Peking University said "the future of the world will be red flags all over the globe", he was murdered by the China warlord in 1927, but his dreams are realized by the party he founded, CCP
India now is like China 100 years ago, at the time China had an awakening period, the results of that changed China, as well as the world. 100 years later, India still lives in dreams, well, good luck, may you never wake up.
capitalism, due to its nature is just for money for oneself, has no future. anyone with little brain should realize it. sooner or later, you will. For now, just keep watching China is passing the most advanced west and the US in such a short time in human history is proof, if you choose not to see it, well, good luck.
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India is a country with all kinds of fundamental problems which can never be solved ,which made this country totally has no future and no hope. One thing, only an example of many, unlike China had been an intact country for 3500 years , India was formed from 562 tribes (call them as Princeful states), and ruled by all kinds of foreign intruders, such as Persians, Turks, Monguls, and British,.............how to get them to form a integrated country? Congress used western value inherited from British, did not work well, BJP under Modi now used Hinduism, however, it cannot even be qualified as real religion, and for the past thousands of years, it never worked, otherwise India would not have been conquered by a single British company for more than 250 years. Now the BJP pushes Hinduism into its extreme form, HInditva, it is getting worse, since it will surely make the problems with Muslims in India, with more than 200 million of them, worse, how can India be peaceful in this kind situation?? Nothing can solve this internal issue, unless India totally become as in China an atheist country in which all religions are tolerated but no in dominance in the country. This is one aspects, more fundamental problems in India, all cannot be solved, all of these made India has no future and no hope. and Indians cannot realize all these, all they can do is dreaming Superpower 2020.
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a 28 years old male youtuber in China went to XJ to visit, on his road, he met a Ugyurs, and asked, can I go to your home to have a visit to see how you live ? the Ughurs told, him, sure, but I am on my way out to work, you just go yourself, my 3 daughters are at home, so the guy went, 3 daughers, 21 (college), 19 (high school) and 7 (primary school) . now ask you a question, do you dare to left your 3 daughters at home to let a total stranger to go to you home??
lies are just lies about XJ in China, that is why Muslim in the world are good friends of China, but look now, they all hate India,
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@rahulpratap3459 when Indians got defeated, they would produce whole sets of theories to show they actually won with a full of BS, however, they cannot even provide any proof, they have no concept what evidence or proof is, not known why it is important, to Indians, what important is how many people believe what they say. so if more people think their BS is truth, then it must be, hah :)
i can put a photo to show my point, they cannot, but they can put a whole article to show they won. All I need is a photo , they do not have any.
as shown Oct 10th 2021 The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious...................."
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@Pookie_bat_man never, I just watched a Russian mention how India took advantage of them during the collapse of the Soviet Union. With the massive depreciation of the ruble at the time, India repaid a large debt to the Soviet Union in rubles, which had lost most of their value. India felt proud of this, but it deeply hurt the Russians, and they have never forgotten it. Indians saw themselves as clever for doing this. Later, Putin offered India a deal of $1 for an aircraft to get them hooked, but in the end, it cost over $3 billion, along with other arms deals, to recover the money for Russia.
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UN is nothing, but as a tool for a country's interest, UN is to be used by the country, not a mater of any country. Such as PR China was not in the UN in 1950 (the seat was occupied by ROC (TW)), UN sent 16 countries formed UN force led by the US army to Korea, PR China, not a UN member, sent PLA to fight the whole UN army, in 3 month, from Oct 1950, to Jan 1951, kicked all UN force, (mainly the US army) back to the south of 38 parallel line. so if you have blls, just leave UN , pity is, you dare not.
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UN is the results of victories countries for defeated NAZI Germany and Imperial Japan, Four major winners, US, Soviet Union, UK, and China founded UN, but dragged France into it. At the time there was no independent India, but a British colony, of course it could not be qualified as a founding member. The aim of UN was to prevent the world to have a NAZI country again, now India set up a NAZI as its national hero, it is totally violate the spirit of the UN charter, it is a joke that this country want to be UNSC permanent member while at home with a NAZI as its national hero.
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Jaishankar is the worst FM in the whole history of republic of India, under him what India achieved in diplomacy?? make relationship with China worse got 20 Indian army killed, lost all 10 pp in Ladakh, all South Asian countries are getting closer to China, US sent warship into India EEZ and does not provide a single dose of vaccine to India, lost Russia as ally but Russia got more connection with Pakistan , he is just a joke, US cannot keep the burden of 40 million AFG, how can US afford to defend 1.4 billion India against the real superpower China?? God is far, China is just at the door step. completely lost everything in AFG but created a new enemy for India,
as famous Indian export from US Fareed Zakaria said, "India does not have a foreign policy and does not have a forward looking policy that is designed to have some control the external environment to shape that environment in way to raise India's interest , India becomes a passive observer of what is happening" , India got nothing under Modi and Jaishankar.
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in the era of stealthy fighters, all France has is Rafale which is no stealthy, if it cannot detect enemy fighter jet, no matter how agile, super or not, it will be shot down by air to air missile from enemy stealthy fighter, all jet fighters max G cannot pass 9.5, or the pilot cannot tolerate, but air to air missile can make 30-40 G turn. France has not ability of making 5 G fighter, India is worse, can only get Rafale from France. One problem of France is it cannot make any large power engine. they have no ability to make jet engine with more than 100 kn, China's WS 15 with max power of 180 kn. the routine used WS 10B with 141 kn, which powered J10C , which has been exported to Pakistan
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@chrisclark1852 72 years, China could not even make a bicycle in China, but we sent PLA into Korea to fight US army, in 3 months of time, we kicked whole US army totally out of North Korea and kept them on the other side for 72 years, we could fight for North Korea then, of course we can fight now for ourselves, to take Taiwan back to China, with or without US help to Taiwan. Today, China is the largest industry country in the world, with industrial scale equals to US, JP and Germany combined.
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UN is for world peace, India has enemies all around it, how this this country be the UNSC PM?? It treat Pakistan and China as its enemies, Nepal just claimed India occupies Nepal's territory, and it abolished article 370 to engulf Kashmir, it created Doklam incident to sent army directly into China's territory, it sent army to attack PLA at Galwan, .........it launched a Bramos missile into Pakistan almost initiate a war, .it insulted other religion,. it is a typical trouble maker, how can this country be a UNSC PM, instead this country should be kicked out of UN!
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in making weapons, China and India tried different ways, China make changes little by little to build up experiences, then there was jump with J10 and J20 (all mainly designed by the same person, Yang Wei)(J7 and JF 17 from the same place too) , India tried to make an advance jet in just one step. to make the best light combat jet for Tejas with its own jet engine Kaveri, spent huge amounts of money, did not work, so had to change to GE404, finally made a junk that cannot be sold to any other country. It is the same story for Arjun tank. compared to China, make changes little by little. China's way is much better, J10 has turned out to be a very good fighter in J10C, J20 modified many times too, with new WS 15 engine with max power 180 kn, no problem for it to do supercruise. India still has nothing.
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India never learned anything from the past, the whole thing is based on India trying to inherit what British left illegal claims over China's territory, Nehru knew it, but he chose to fight China, and lost, today, Modi government is doing the same again, like Nehru, India will be defeated only 1000 times worse than 1962. read Indian former diplomat, Avtar Singh Bhasin, book "Nehru, Tibet and China" to know the details.
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@debojitdas9787 90% of Indians live at $2 a day, it is very easy to calculate, reason is 10% of top Indians own 77% of India wealth (use the data from G..gle, with an Indian as its CEO), , wealthy is difficult to calculate so use GDP, assume India GDP is $4 trillion (actually not that much) , since 77% for the top 10%, rest of 90% shares rest of 23%, which is $ 920 billion, divided by 1.26 billion, that is $750 a year, or $2 a day (actually $1.97 a day)
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The entire issue in the eastern sector between China and India stems from the British's illegal claim to the entire South Tibet through the notorious McMahon Line, a claim that India never obtained before the British, nor could it achieve independently. Now, India is attempting to retain what it could not obtain on its own, but only inherited illegally from its former colonial master.
South Tibet was never claimed by the British; the McMahon Line was merely proposed by the British in 1914 as a negotiation tactic with the Chinese government. However, no Chinese government ever agreed to it. This is why Tawang, which should be on the west side of the McMahon Line according to maps, remained under the control of the Tibetan local government throughout the British Raj period, rather than being controlled by the British Raj. Tawang was only occupied on February 14, 1951, not by the British, but by Nehru's dispatched army. The PLA reached Lhasa in October 1952.
"Arunachal Pradesh Chief Minister Pema Khandu today announced that his government will set up a memorial for Major Bob Khathing, an Army officer who commanded a small team of soldiers to establish India's administrative control in Tawang, which borders China, in 1951."
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Under BJP Modi for the past decade, the most crucial aspect for a strong country—its industry—has suffered. Manufacturing's contribution to GDP has plummeted from 16% to 13%. There are insufficient job opportunities for the youth, leading many to return to rural areas, rendering the so-called youth benefits ineffective and more
1.India had by far the largest number of zero-food children (6.7 million), which is almost half of all zero-food children in the 92 countries included in this Harvard study.
2.74.1% of Indians unable to afford a healthy diet: FAO ReportReport provides startling figures of country’s position on malnutrition and stunted growth
3. with globe hunger index 111, 6th from the last one.
4. India’s Income Inequality Is Now Worse Than Under British Rule, New Report Says
5. Mumbai has the India most billionaires (297 of them) at the same time, Dharavi is a residential area in Mumbai, Maharashtra, India. It has often been considered to be one of the world's largest slums. Dharavi has an area of just over 2.39 square kilometres (0.92 sq mi; 590 acres) and a population of about 1,000,000.,
6. India has approximately 12 666 377 child labourers total. Uttar Pradesh, a state in northern India, has 19,27,997 child labourers. Delhi, the capital of India, has over 1 million child labourers.
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Hindus is a nation put more value into spiritual happiness, they like wonderful dreams, they like their Hinduism fairy tales, they like plan a wonderful future, they get pleasure with bad news from other people, especially from their enemies, such as China or Pakistan, if they cannot find any real bad news, they will created some, just to get pleasure from them, to let them feel happy, to let them feel the life is not so bad after all, they do not like to compare data or numbers in the real world, in real life , in reality, which hurt them too much, may Gods (250 million in Hinduism) bless this nation.
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let us face the fact, India is a nation with low IQ in general (go check g.............), but of course this nation also has smart people, only very few, so in common sense and logic, if India let the real smart people to run, it should be better, however, no, India chose so called BS "democracy", which mean, the majority of not very intelligent people chose someone not so smart (such as current one) to run the country, so how can this country have any future?
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worry yourselves, first,
1.India had by far the largest number of zero-food children (6.7 million), which is almost half of all zero-food children in the 92 countries included in this Harvard study.
2.74.1% of Indians unable to afford a healthy diet: FAO ReportReport provides startling figures of country’s position on malnutrition and stunted growth
3. with globe hunger index 111, 6th from the last one.
4. India’s Income Inequality Is Now Worse Than Under British Rule, New Report Says
5. Mumbai has the India most billionaires (297 of them) at the same time, Dharavi is a residential area in Mumbai, Maharashtra, India. It has often been considered to be one of the world's largest slums. Dharavi has an area of just over 2.39 square kilometres (0.92 sq mi; 590 acres) and a population of about 1,000,000.,
6. India has approximately 12 666 377 child labourers total. Uttar Pradesh, a state in northern India, has 19,27,997 child labourers. Delhi, the capital of India, has over 1 million child labourers.
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This country is short of everything but enemies, they cannot make anything, but very good at make new enemies.
that shows Indians do not have good manner, I suggest you to watch Disney cartoon, Bambi, and remember what the little rabbit said " Mom told me, if you do not have anything nice to say to others, do not say anything at all"
Indians do not understand the meaning of "free speech", it does not mean you can freely insulting to other's and show no respect to others believes.
the people of this country got some kind illness in their brains, they do not have anything to show off, they cannot make anything, they achieved nothing but so proud of themselves for nothing, also like a main anchor of wion channel, everyday she spreads hatred towards China and Pakistan, these people throw away the only good thing from this country, Buddhism, since the core of it is kindness, but the people of this country has all lost it, all they have left for them is boasting, and arrogant, rude, with no manners, ...............
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haha, we so scared, modern war is fight based on the capability of manufacturing capability, Total manufacturing output China in 2022, $5 trillion. US, $2.5 trillion, Japan, $1 trillion, Germany $0.8 trillion. India? $0.418 Australia $0.086 Trillion2.5+1+0.8+ 0.418+0.086=4.8,
China ‘s is more than all US JP Germany, India and Australia combined
we are so scared, haha
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you have dream, you have plan, you want to make it, but you just cannot. Making jet engine cost huge amount of money, which you do not have, you are just a 3rd world developing country, you do not have basic research for it, your total R&S budget is only 0.6-0.7% of your GDP compare to China's 2.1%, consider China's GDP is 6 times of yours, that is 2.1/0.65*6=19.38 times difference every year, now it lasted more than 20 years, so the difference is 20*19.38=387.6 times in just R&D, you need to master the technology of making ceramic alloy, nobody will teach you that, you need to make it yourself, you need to spend money in building factories and testing facilities that all cost huge amount of money, you need to have people in the field with know-how, you do not have, your universities ranked behind 500 in the world. it wont work if you say "if we want to make it we can", no you cannot. that is just for jet engine, you will also need radar and missile all of them cost huge amount of money and you cannot make world class radar but need to import from Israel and missile from France meteor, even if you can, with the cost, you will make a single real 5 th gen fighter over $1000 million which you cannot afford to make enough number for yourselves and no other country afford to buy it. even you need to import 1500 materials and part from Russia for Su-30 MKI after 20 years, let alone making a real 5th gen fighter. will, sure you can try, after 20 years, only will be another junk.
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under Modi, the gap between India and China widened, in 2014, India GDP was $2 trillion, China was $10 trillion, difference is $8 trillion, in 2023, India GDP is $3.73 trillion, China is $17. 7 trillion, the difference is $13.97 trillion
100 years ago, China was like India: poor and backward. Despite being hailed as the first democracy in Asia and the world's largest democracy, these titles did not change anything for China. Instead, China was bullied by Western powers and invaded by Japan. The most advanced intellectuals in China at the time, represented by Mao Zedong, Zhou Enlai, and others, came to realize that Western-style 'democracy' would never work for China. They saw the path of Russia's 1917 revolution as the only way for China's future. They fought for it and founded the People's Republic of China (PRC) in 1949. Since then, China has been on the right path for the country and has emerged as a true superpower in the world.
Indians may not believe it and may not realize that their world's largest democracy is just a name with no real use. However, since India will not undergo an overall revolution like China did, India will never catch up with China. It is not a matter of Congress or BJP; there is no difference, and neither will work. this country, therefore, has no future, no hople
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they really really really run out of way to counter China, imitate BRI will not work at all, be creative, haha :) seems they cannot. the fact showed, China's path it the path to strong, powerful, rich, and prosperity in a relatively short time, now entire west of the richest countries are running out of ways to counter it. "Our course is just, a just course will not be defeated by any enemy, but we will defeat all the enemies, our aim will be realized and our goals will surely be achieved"_______Mao.
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for those always remind us about opium war or Japanese invasion to China, you do not realize, due to your limited education, you are praising CCP. those were all old corrupted government, that is why CCP lead Chinese people overthrown them, kicked KMT to Taiwan, got back HK, ,,,after CCP took power, not a single country can invade China, .......seems you want to praise CCP? hah :)) you are so welcome to do so, we do not mind you remind us the old past, actually it is our national anthem, go read the lyrics, made in anti Japanese war, we will never change it.
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Rafale with 6 missiles with RCS 10 (interestingly, this data is from an Indian student's paper) (if no missiles, what it for? just for touring??), stealthy fighters with RCS less than 0.005. no matter what, with this difference, it will be reflected in the radar detection distance, stealthy fighters will be able to detect Rafale first, and fire missile to it first to shoot it down, simple, that is why really superpowers all have and can make stealthy fighters, there is a generation gap between stealthy fighter and non-stealthy fighter, the ki l ratio is 1:100 or more.
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Indians like to dreams things on paper or in their dreams as reality, haha :) AMCA? my asssssssss, first check the power, it is GE 414, with max power output less than 100 kn, you forgot you laughed J20 when it used AL 31 with output 131 kn???? but it is still better than GE 414, now China J20 uses WS 15 with power output 180 kn, F 22 is 153 kn, only F 35 is 195 kn, but F 35 is a single engine. when your AMCA comes out, it will be totally useless, you cannot make powerful engine, nobody will sell you.
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you do not know anything about nuclear weapons obviously, China's first H bomb was with 3 million tons TNT, India? does not have it, although they claim they have it, but max amount was 54 k t TNT, showed it was just a failed attempt. Secondly, India does not have any mobile nuclear missile as China's DF 26, DF 31 and DF 41, all India has is put Agni 5 on a tow cart, and can only launch it from certain fixed sites which are already targeted by China various missiles, in the first wave of war, they will be destroyed before firing, and China has multiple layers of anti ballistic missile system, from India to Beijing is 3300 km, from China to Delhi is 400 km, so if India dare to do it Delhi will be disappeared in about 5-10 min.
China has thermal nuclear warheads (if you know what that is) each one with about 300 kt TNT (if you know what means) India only has fission nuclear warheads (if you know what that means) with about 10-15 kt TNT, so each China's nuke head is about 30-20 times of India, let assume 20, western reported China has about 600 nuke warheads, India110 (assume them are true), then China has 20x600= 12000 equivalent vs 110 India has, yeah, good idea, let us play some nuke game, haha :))
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India cannot make hypersonic missile, now China, not only put hypersonic missiles into PLA service, but started to sell it in the world market, it is a hypersonic anti ship missile called YJ-21E (E means export version), for PLA, the missile with 1500-2500 km range, for export version, its range limited at 290 km, YJ-21 can be launched from 13000 ton class China's type 055 destroyer, or from H-6 bomber from air.
All your junk warships of quad will be sunken by it. haha :))
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the core of Hinduism is just for survival, it can explain everything, it can find all excuses for its failure, then let people with it free good so they can survival anything, that has been proved from thousands year of history. it has no use in solving anything in real life, but only provide empty wishes for survival. that is the biggest contribution of Hinduism, since they survived all kinds of intruders from thousands of years, and for them, it showed the religion so very success, it is OK since it only for themselves to live this way. However, put it into extreme, it becomes Hindutiva, it makes them to think they are superior to other people with other religions, this trend becomes dangerous, mainly for themselves, based on this kind ideology, it will only get them self destroyed since in reality they have nothing better than other people at all
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ISRO will not pretend to be a successful one for long with failure and in capacity of doing any advanced space program, with current un mature GSLV, that is about all ISRO can do, more advanced space program needs huge amount of money which India does not have, currently everything stuck at Chandrayaan project due to the failure of Chandrayaan-2, now all wait for Chandrayaan-3, however, Chandrayaan-3 will be a failure too since ISRO does not have capability to make better Chandrayaan-3. only doing some modifications on Chandrayaan-2, so surely it will not work, the problem for making a completely new Chandrayaan-3 takes money, again you do not have it. without Chandrayaan-3, then your Gaganyaan manned program cannot start.
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Indians are the people like to shout, but no action, they want to "free" Tibet, but the government recognize Tibet is a part of China, and they cannot do a thing about it. they shouted boycott China, but with the amount of trade increase with China every year. They shout a lots of things, which nobody can list how many things they shouted, but hardly any action, therefore, nobody treats them seriously, let them shout, since that is the only thing they are good at, totally meaningless.
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please let me know if I am wrong:
a simple fact is no farmers in the world can survive without huge subsides from government, US has it, JP has it, China has it. only by selling grain they just cannot. the reason is , grain is very cheap, and grain is not money, nobody wants more than what he/she needed (for example, you want $ 1 million or $1 billion, or $1 Trillion, as much as possible but if you are not a grain seller, you do not want to store a ton of rice in your home),
India's arable land is about 0.12 hectares per person, or 2.47x0.12 = 0.2964 Acre, 60% are farmers, or 820 million, so each farmer has about 0.19 hectare.
total India grain production for 2020 is 300 million tons. India total arable land is 156463000 hectares so the yield is 1917 kg per hectare. each farmer on average can have 0.19*1917 kg =364.2 kg per person.
India's average grain per person is 211 kg. so for each farmer, beside he kept enough for himself, he can sell 364.2-211=153 kg. let us say it is rice, that is about $2.5 per kg,(just recently India sold 100,000 tons of rice to China for $300 / ton, that is only $0.3/kg) , for a whole year, a rice farmer can make on average about 153 x $2.5 = $382.5 for a year, also need to subtract the cost for seeds, fertilizer, pesticides , agriculture machines, .......can anyone survive ???
you tell me.
India farmers here?? please let me know if my calculation is wrong.
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I know this channel just copied an article from a western news. it shows you guys totally know nothing about space program, Long March 5 B launched July 24th , within minutes, the boosters finished the burn and dropped (the first things) then minutes later, first stage rocket all dropped and fall into Pacific, only the module left into the orbit and 13 hours later connected to the core module of China's space station, only minutes after that China's 3 astronauts already entered it, :) geeeee.
what will reenter is the old cargo ship to send supplies to the space station, that one, even said in the article, will be a controlled reentry.
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India's richest 1% of the population owns 40% of the country's wealth, and the richest 10% own 77%. Based on this, we can do a calculation using the total GDP to estimate income distribution.
India's total GDP for 2024 is $4 trillion, with the average income (GDP per capita) being $2857 per year.
Top 1 % own 40% of the wealth, that is $1.6 trillion, and shared by 14 million people, with income for them is $114,286 a year per person.
If 77% of the wealth goes to the top 10%, that amount is $4 trillion x 77% =$3.08 trillion, among it, $1.6 trillion is already taken by top 1%, so it is $3.08 trillion- $1.6 trillion= $1.48 trillion, shared by 9% of India population, to make it for this group to have $11746 per person per year.
The remaining $920 billion (23% of GDP) is shared by the rest of the population, which is 1.26 billion people (1.4 billion total population minus the 0.14 billion in the top 10%).
Now, dividing this $920 billion by 1.26 billion people gives $730 per year per person
Thus, the bottom 90% of India's population has an average income of about $730 per year, far lower than the national average GDP per capita of $2857. The real income for many would be even lower due to wealth concentration at the top.
From the calculation we know, for 90% of the Indian population, 1.26 billion people, the income is $2 a day.
The United Nations defines poverty as an income of less than $2 per day, and the international poverty line is set at $2.15 per day. so that 90% of the Indian population live under the UN poverty line on average, certainly among 90% some got higher income, some got much lower, this is just on average.
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Under this gem of India (read it as trash of India), India is getting more isolated daily in its neighborhood, so it tried to jump into west US arms for protection, however, US just upgraded PAF F16, send diplomats to Azade Kashmir, block Indians visa to US but only take 2 days for Chinese.............not even invite India into AUKUS, no where to go, he went to Moscow, Putin did not bother to see him, Russia is a friend of China with no limitation, this trash of India with only a big mouth , BS whole day, get India with no friend or any worthy friend at all.
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Modi's way of running a country is to work and serve for the big money, such as Ambanis, Adanis and Tata and sons, Adani's wealth grew from $8 billion in 2014 to $137 billion on 2022, at the same time, India average per capita income is only $2520 with globe huger index 107, at the same time, GOI put all kind harsh regulations to foreign companies, especially to China, all these again made Ambanis etc very happy, many companies go out of India, new foreign companies rather go to Vietnam or Bangladesh not to India. Foreign direct invest all grow rapid in east Asia (especially to China) , to south east asia and central asia, but dropped to India. with 30%.
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when you look at the world, especially India and China, you will feel there must be God, for the arrangement and run, just all amazing, God put China on top of India, high on Himalaya, impossible to India for = attack China, but we can go down any time, especially now, go reach Delhi in just a few days. and about UN, China was under KMD (now in Taiwan), but later UN transferred all power from KMD to CCP, hah :)) now India need to face CCP not lapdog of US KMD, :)) everything is just so amazing for China, I am really very grateful to God, God is blessing China, thank you God.
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@ineedpowers5151 1) Who cares what your excuse is? you lost in 1962,
2) 3. 1967, not a real war, but a border skirmish, with each side only shot each other with artillery, no real attack therefore, no win or lost,
3) go to learn, you
4) yeah, you cannot show a single photo to prove it, as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ..........."
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@Apoorva492 karma? ha, look here is Karma! enjoy,
all anti China politicians and reporters got bad ending,
Trump.lost election,
Morrison, lost election,
Steven bannen, in jail,
borris, lost job, Liz lost job,
palki, got fired. S
hinzo Abe, killed.
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India 's nuke base, as shown, is in the NE region. Manipur, China at places on the top of Himalaya, place near Tawang, the place with recent clash, has huge AESA long range radar to track India's ballistic missile, and we also have YW ships in Indian ocean, so we can pin point where the Indian missile is, and destroy it in no time. at the same time launch our nukes to all over India, so dig hole now for your safety.
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India location is for others to invade, to the north, there are passes, so for thousands of years, intruders, nomads with horses, their cavalry easily invaded Indian plain, after hundreds of year, mixed together with Hindus, then newer intruders emerged, the cycle repeated, so India was ruled by all kinds for foreign intruders from North, they could not fight them, only be ruled again and again, later, British with modern weapon from South, they have better weapon to beat the north cavalry. so it was their turn to rule India for almost 300 yrs, grabbed $ 45 trillion. they could not do much to China due to 4300 meters high Himalaya, God is always not fair to every nation, China is blessed by God, India is not.
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You mentioned the book "Himalaya Blunder," but I bet you've never read it. In it, Dalvi said, "Now people blame Nehru; however, since India is a democratic country, the responsibility actually lies upon each and every one of its citizens." As for me, I'm only here for teasing; I genuinely don't care who gets elected because one is bad, and another is worse. The problem in your country isn't solely who becomes the Prime Minister but rather the myriad fundamental issues in society, the political system, culture, religion, land reform, tradition, ideology, and so on. Without an overall revolution, there's no way to change it, and without change, there's no future or hope. Since a revolution is impossible, I have to reiterate: your country has no hope, no future. It makes no difference whether it's Congress or BJP.
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@RR-pc7yv again, it was from a Russian, then I asked the same question to AI,
Yes, it is true that India repaid a large portion of its debt to the Soviet Union in rubles, taking advantage of the massive depreciation of the ruble in the early 1990s, following the collapse of the Soviet Union.
During the Soviet era, India had accumulated substantial debt from purchasing Soviet military equipment and goods under a rupee-ruble trade agreement. When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, the value of the ruble fell drastically. India repaid the debt in rubles, which had lost much of their value due to hyperinflation and the economic turmoil in post-Soviet Russia. This arrangement was seen by many in Russia as a significant financial loss, as the rubles India used to repay the debt were worth far less than when the original loans were given. This issue has been cited as a point of contention in the historical economic relations between India and Russia.
However, it was part of the broader economic fallout from the Soviet Union's collapse, which impacted many countries that had been involved in similar trade agreements.
so save your BS to yourself, it shows how evil you treated someone you even considered as a friend.
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There is no worry about Pakistan, to avoid nuclear war, the US was always in the past to keep a military balance between India and Pakistan. so that not allow India to have too much military power over Pakistan which would force Pakistan to use nuclear weapon against India, today, China is an iron brother of Pakistan, will never allow India do anything to Pakistan, China has a brigade of strategic supporting troop stationed in Pakistan, the commander of the troop was the current China's defense minister General Li, the work of the troop was at least in part shown in the 2019 Balakok war, in which, not a single IAF smart bomb hit the target, and with mig 21 shot down and pilot tasted fantastic tea
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This country should be kicked out of UN, do not dream too much, UN is for world peace, India has enemies all around it, how can this country be the UNSC PM?? It treats Pakistan and China as its enemies, Nepal just claimed India occupies Nepal's territory, and it abolished article 370 to engulf Kashmir, it created Doklam incident to send army directly into China's territory without even talk to China first, , it sent army to attack PLA at Galwan, .........it launched a Bramos missile into Pakistan almost initiate a war, .it insulted other religion,. it is a typical trouble maker, how can this country be a UNSC PM, instead this country should be kicked out of UN!
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Compared to Nehru's government, the current government now are cowards. In 1962, Nehru ordered the Indian army to "kick the Chinese out," with full support from his Defense Minister V. K. Krishna Menon and his army, led by Lieutenant General Brij Mohan Kaul, the commander of the 4th army on the front line. They displayed remarkable bravery, fighting despite the odds, and their heroic actions will be remembered. However, today, facing China in 2020, Modi didn't even dare to mention China's name, let alone order the army to engage in combat. The army chief instructed the front line not to fire a single shot and to lower the artillery barrels facing China, indicating that India did not want to engage in hostilities.
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let me tell you why Galwan is so important to India. 20 yrs ago, India started to build SSN strategic roads, this road goes pass Galwan to the north India base, very important to India, so that why it is called "strategic" road for India, after 20 years and with spending $1.5 billion, they found (finally), it is only 5.3 km from LAC, totally under the coverage of China's anti tank missile (such as Red Arrow 10, with range 10 km), so in war, not a single truck can pass this road at Galwan sector, all 20 yrs and $1.5 billion wasted, more important, they cannot sustain the supply to the north front. on both side of this road, at east side, is Shyork river, and China LAC, right on the west, is huge snow mountain, no possible to avoid this sector, so only way is to push LAC towards China, to make more room for the road to protect it, for doing this, Indian army planned "Snow Leopard" military action with the aim to push PLA back to the Galwan valley, with a strengthened battalion of the almighty army, started attack as shown in the video and results, ............................................................haha :))
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Tanks can show its power only means Ukraine totally lost air control to Russia. , At the beginning of the war, Ukraine used attacking drones caused sever damages to Russia's armed vehicles. with the war progress, Russian strengthen anti drone capability, now the damage by Ukraine drones are very limited, up to date, Russian has destroyed about 1500 Ukraine drones. Obviously Russian is winning the war, .......eventually, Kiev will be attacked , Zelensky will be a total loser. Conclusion is, US and Nato are not dependable, if they cannot save Ukraine which is just located at front door of Nato, how can they save TW or India which are 10000 km away separated with wast ocean and or snow mountains
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@NeerajkumarDas_337 Indians always claim how mighty their army is, but there are tons of video and photos showing how PLA beat the sht out of this almighty army, but Indians cannot even provide one single photo to prove, but only with their big mouth to make all kinds BS, haha , they do not even have an agreed number for themselves, it goes from 38, 40, 43, 45...................60, ..............105.........haha.
as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious......."
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Molecular anthropology (go to learn what it is) showed, Han Chinese and Tibetan share the most closely DNA profile, they had same ancestors, migrated from Africa, at about 40000 years ago, got into China proper today, then they separated, the group went from Sichung to Tibet mountains were the ancestors of today's Tibetans, and those went north and east were the ancestors of today's Han Chinese, we are real brothers and sisters in a Chinese family in DNA, together, we are building a great country, together we will take South Tibet back to China soon.
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currency devalue is not always a bad thing, especially for a country with huge export in trading, that means, your goods are cheap, easier to sell make money, that was the situation in 1980s Japanese ren to $, huge trade surplus for Japan, with JP TV, cars, cameras.............in US, US sent delegates to JP , had famous square meeting, push Japan ren to rise value, Japan agreed, huge goods export to US stopped, then Korean goods and Chinese goods replaced Japanese goods, Japan's whole economy stopped growth for 30 years. will never be recovered like before. the chance lost forever.
India is different, it has huge trading deficit, so with rupee devalue only means it needs to spend more money on importing goods, mainly from China and thank you.
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AbhijeetKundu haha:)) what a total BS!
yeah, your philosophy, you have total no concept of logic, to check, the current logic concept is from Greek not from India, the difference is in Greek logic, the argument consists of 2 parts , statement with evidence support, but in India, there is a special term called "Indian logic" which is the statement with no fact as support, but with some other people said, based on their imagination or just BS.
this is also in Buddhism, so both Hinduism and Buddhism like to argue all based on this "Indian Logic" basically all based on BS.,
that is what you are doing now.
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AbhijeetKundu We say We can send a man into space, with Indian logic, Indians will say, we have done that in our ancient time, as shown in our Vimana in our recorded Hinduism haha :)
we say we can do study on tissue culture, to help regenerate human organs , Indians say, we have done that, on our ancient time, a wife of an India king, pregnant with baby, she teared it divided it into 100 and buried under ground then grew up to 100 babies, so we did the human regeneration long time ago, BJP government treated this all true, and supply funding to the research on this kind BS. so to read Science on Jan 2015 about pseudo science in India.
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@michelle-vedic-human4723 oldest? but useless, for the past 1000 year, India was ruled by all kinds of intruders, Persians, Turks, Monguls, ...British, you name it, they all set up their rules in this land, with this nation could not do anything, no resistance, no hero.
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@derenlewis5390 you do not know anything about nuclear weapons obviously, China's first H bomb was with 3 million tons TNT, India? does not have it, although they claim they have it, but max amount was 54 k t TNT, showed it was just a failed attempt. Secondly, India does not have any mobile nuclear missile as China's DF 26, DF 31 and DF 41, all India has is put Agni 5 on a tow cart, and can only launch it from certain fixed sites which are already targeted by China various missiles, in the first wave of war, they will be destroyed before firing, and China has multiple layers of anti ballistic missile system, from India to Beijing is 3300 km, from China to Delhi is 400 km, so if India dare to do it Delhi will be disappeared in about 5-10 min.
China has thermal nuclear warheads (if you know what that is) each one with about 300 kt TNT (if you know what means) India only has fission nuclear warheads (if you know what that means) with about 10-15 kt TNT, so each China's nuke head is about 30-20 times of India, let assume 20, western reported China has about 600 nuke warheads, India110 (assume them are true), then China has 20x600= 12000 equivalent vs 110 India has, yeah, good idea, let us play some nuke game, haha :))
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India's got about 1/3 military budget compare to China's among it, 50% for salaries and pension, what left over for weapons, what left over for weapons is about 1/10 of China's , with imported weapon 3-5 times more expensive. that makes it only get 1/30 to 1/50 for obtain about same level weapons, and for more advanced weapon, no other countries would sell them to India, such as stealthy fighters, hypersonic missiles, attacking drones, .................that is just for 1 year, for 10 years, Indias' s real weapon/arms level is only about 1/300-1/500 of China's, most Indians would not believe it but still dreaming superpower 2020.
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hahah :)) Ukraine has already lost 25% of its territory, you are still here BS, NATO all land connected to Ukraine, they dare not to do anything, haha :) TW is separated so it is also the same to any other country trying to help, China is much closer in any case, but hey, you can keep dreaming, it is fun, it is pretty, it is free, and it is all you can do, hah a:)
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India is very exited about GE 414 to be make in India since it is the engine for many good fighters, however, they do not understand, that is all for the 3rd gen. fighter, totally no use for stealthy fighter, since its max power is only 91 kn, compare to F 22 engine, 153 kn, F35 engine, 190 kn, J20 engine ws 15, 180 kn, Su 57 engine AL 41, 141 kn, so before it is making, it is already out of date
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Exactly, huge population for this country is not a good news,
huge population, with no or very limited natural resources, even with the territory that is only 1/3 of China's, with no industrialization, very backwards agriculture and huge pollution, no job opportunities, and lots more other problems of this country, which make this country has no future and no hope. Just almost all of the people of this country do not realize it and still live in dreams
India average grain per capita is 225 kg, compare to China's 490 kg, despite India has 25% more arable land, which means, the total yield of grain in India is less than 1/2 of China's with per hector yield less than 1/3 of China's, due to the reason India very backwards in agricultural due to lack of industry for agriculture lacks of fertilizer and pesticides, and machinery, with more than 200 million suffer starvation, India, due to it nature of capitalism, landlords do not care about if millions of Indian without enough food, and with 5.7 million malnutrition kids, still export grain to make money for themselves
again, this country totally has no future and no hope
let face the fact, India is a nation with low IQ in general (go check g.............), but of course this nation also has smart people, but only very few, so in common sense and logic, if India let the real smart people to run, it should be better, however, no, India chose so called BS "democracy", which mean, the majority of not very intelligent people chose someone not so smart (such as current one) to run the country, so how can this country have any future?
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India's real GDP is only $1.77 trillion, not as it claimed at $3.16 Trillion in 2021. to see real strength of a country, not to see what that country claimed GDP its (as India) but check what the real money the government can spend. in 2021, US collected tax revenue income was about $4 trillion, with budget about $ 6 trillion with $2 trillion deficit, China income was $3.2 trillion, spending was $3.85 trillion, guess what was India's spending in 2021? $ 400 billion, that is only 1/9.25 of China, that is how much money Indian government can spend, 1/9.25 of China, assume China and India government spend the same percentage of GDP, that is 22.5% of total GDP, real India GDP is only $1.77 trillion. you may claim you have whatever, $5 trillion, 10, 20, whatever, the real money you can spend is in your budget, that reflects your real GDP. so do not be so happy that you are taken over UK, UK 2021 total budget $1.3 trillion, that reflect, still 3 times more than India can spend.
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fighting China will be very difficult for Indian army, first India cannot send tanks to there, due to road conditions and altitude too high, all above 4000 meters, on China side we have flat plain in Ladakh, you have to use air lift them to get there, however, 1. you do not have air superiority, so your air to ground attack will not work. 2. your howitzer's range is too short compare to China's. again, you cannot even ship your howitze there without air lifting them there, haha :) 3 you have nowhere to get that close to Chinese to launch your antitank missile either from your armored vehicles or personal but not attacked by China's attacking drones first. only thing left for you is for your brave soldiers shoot T99a with your Insas rifles, haha :))
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in the coming war with India, at the first stage of the war, you will not see any PLA soldiers, the attack will be from air, jet, drones, long range artillery. missiles, after the bombardment, may already eliminated 95 % of your army personals, tanks will show up to clear up for those still alive,
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Indians clear up your mind, you are nation on Indian plain, Himalaya are the home of Tibetan and Nepali. Indian government officially recognize Tibet is a part of China, South Tibet is a part of Tibet, therefore, (you had any class of logic?) also belong to China. I know you would not agree, does not matter, we will take it back by force, then, after that, you can figure it out, not in a hurry.
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in 1962, India tried to attack Tawang which was lost to PLA earlier after 7th Brigade was destroyed, so Indian army sent 4th division with 62 brigade (Brigadier Singh) to put all of them to go up all the way from Bamdila along road 13, PLA detected this situation, Marshal Liu said, this is a "brass head, lizard tail, tight at back, loose at belly" means, very strong in front, but weak in the back, then later PLA prepared to attack in front to brass head, at the same time, sent a troop went around, along "Beily trail" to cut in the back, ,,,,, Indian army started to withdraw and fled from Sela pass, PLA got the the back and found 8 cars run down from Sela to Bandila, but PLA was too late, 8 cars passed them, among them there was Brigadier Singh in them, later he was attacked by another PLA unit and ki..led.
1962 is nothing to China, the troop of PLA in there was not the best (they were the tiny part of the 2nd field army, under later very famous Deng Xiao Ping, the best in PLA was the 4th field army of Marshal Lin,Biao, his troops took only 3 months to kick all US army out of North Korea), , they were in Sichuan planting crops, then under the order they put down plows and took rifles to fight Indian army, for PLA it was just a piece of cake. compare in 1948, PLA with 600000 completely destroyed 800000 GMD army with US weapons (it was done by a combined force of 2nd field army and 3rd filed army) and Stalin later said to Mao, it was just amazing you did that.
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compare to India, In China, Tibetans average GDP per person is near $10000 vs India's $2250, Tibet with people 6 per sq km, compare to India's 440 :)) Tibet has no air pollution, compare to India Air quality index (AQI) and PM2.5 air pollution in India near 200 year around, and got to 500 in winter in Dehli, :) Tibet has high speed rail to travel the whole India does not.
Each Tibet family in the area has at least 100 yaks, each can be sold from $ 1500 to $4000 (RMB 10000-30000 yuan), once they have money, Tibetans like to buy cars, they like Toyota Landcruiser very much which cost about $60000 in China, one village near Lhasa is called Landcruiser village since every one family has a Toyota landcruiser.
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Indians complain about China bully them all the time, however, they only cry, do not do anything, such a kind, soft nation, that why India was ruled by all kind of foreign intruders, Persians, Turks, Monguals, .......British, ,
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In war, both sides can make up casualty number, that is just human nature, totally understandable, but one thing both sides cannot lie, that is the number of captured, POW, in 1962 war, China captured 4000 Indian soldiers, including 7th Brigade B. General John Dalvi, tell me how many PLA India captured? let me help. 0.
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All of the Indian Army's victories occurred under the Congress party's leadership, not the BJP's. These victories include reclaiming Goa in 1962, securing Bangladesh's independence in 1971, and the success in the Kargil War in 1999.
In contrast, the BJP's actions have been less successful. For instance, in 2017 during the Doklam standoff, the army withdrew following China's final warning. Today, the Chinese PLA remains stationed in Doklam, transforming it into a fortified military base and constructing multiple villages in the area.
Furthermore, in May 2020, 72 Indian soldiers were wounded by PLA forces and hospitalized at Pangong Lake. Then, on June 15-16, 20 soldiers were killed, and 200 others were captured by the PLA. This information was reported in The Express Tribune article dated October 10th, 2021, titled "Indians furious...
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too many Indians mention to use nuclear to China, so I reply them, since you do not know anything about nuclear weapons obviously, China's first H bomb was with 3 million tons TNT, India? does not have it, although they claim they have it, but max amount was 54 k t TNT, showed it was just a failed attempt. Secondly, India does not have any mobile nuclear missile as China's DF 26, DF 31 and DF 41, all India has is put Agni 5 on a tow cart, and can only launch it from certain fixed sites which are already targeted by China various missiles, in the first wave of war, they will be destroyed before firing, and China has multiple layers of anti ballistic missile system, from India to Beijing is 3300 km, from China to Delhi is 400 km, so if India dare to do it Delhi will be disappeared in about 5-10 min. China has thermal nuclear warheads (if you know what that is) each one with about 300 kt TNT (if you know what means) India only has fission nuclear warheads (if you know what that means) with about 10-15 kt TNT, so each China's nuke head is about 30-20 times of India, let assume 20, western reported China has about 600 nuke warheads, India110 (assume them are true), then China has 20x600= 12000 equivalent vs 110 India has, yeah, good idea, let us play some nuke game, haha :))
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for Tejas mk 1A, the main difference is radar since engine is the same GE 404. therefore the old problem for MK1 remain, i.e, with short in air time, and very low payload, 3.5 tons vs JF 17-III 4.6 tons.
As for radar, JF-17 block 3 with KJL-7A AESA radar, which is very similar to ELM-2052, however, then doing the comparison, ELM 2052 with the 1500 T/R module, KJL-7A using 1000 T/R module for JF-17 block III, but HAL ordered from Israel ELM 2052 with only 500 T/R module, therefore its capability is much less than KJL-7A with 1000 T/R. to say Tejas 1 A is better than JF-17 block 3 has no technical data support. Also PAF has already started making JF-17 block 3, MK1A? who know when it will start and how fast it can make all 83
as for weapons, JF-17 block 3 will be armed with PL12 and PL15, over 100 km and 300 km range respectively, they have been with PLAAF for a long time. Astra new version is only started testing.
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it rooted in culture, in religion and in history in this country, they always feel they won in mouth by words, haha :) in reality is not so important, that makes them very happy, haha :)) and make one self happy is the core of life of this country. they cannot defeat enemy by action, but they can always win with words they like. Chinese are very familiar with this kind people, since a well known Chinese writer LU Xun, wrote a book about this kind people, called "Ah Q's story", published 100 years ago, Ah Q is a character, just like people in here, he may be beaten miserably but he can always find way to let him feel that he had won. we call it way of spiritual winning , we can find full of Ah Qs in here.
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nationalism , through Hindutva is the basic strategic for BJP to get most Indians support, to get it elected, among it, a very important part is Anti China. since how can a best religion and a best nation in the whole human history show any weak to a poor backwards China?? any friendly gesture to China will be consider show weak to China, will be considered as showing Indians are not as good as Chinese, therefore,will not get support, BJP/Modi will not let it happen, true or not is not important, the aim is to get re elected, even this path has no future, even this path will lead to war with China, well, that is all not as important as to be elected. haha :) we actually very happy with this, so Modi 2024 !
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a country's GDP could be fake with inflated number, such as India's, $3.1 trillion passed UK, it is just another lie, what not lie is the budget, that is what a country really can spend, not just GDP, a number, you cannot spend a faked number. US spend 30% of its GDP, for 2021, US GDP $23 trillion, its budget, was about $6.8 trillion, China 2021 budget was $3.85 trillion. India?? guess? haha :) $400 billion. that is only 1/10 of China's, why? because that was the money India government can get from the tax they collected, so no matter how you make up the number of your GDP, you cannot spend the fake number, it also reflect the real size of your economy, on surface it is about 1/6 of China, in reality it is only about 1/10 of China's, or instead of $3.17 Trillion but only $1.8 trillion.
by living in lies, Indians think they are better than others in development, but data showed, for 75 years, their GDP to the world remain at 3.5%, as British left India, it means, India is just on the same average growth, it is just a myth saying India speed, no such thing. Especially compare to Asian countries, in 1985, India's GDP is 12% of Asia, same as China, Japan was 56%, now, China is 46.5% of Asian GDP, India dropped to 7.56% , hahah :) in Asia many more countries grows faster than India, but hey, you can still shout "India superpower 2020!" it is fun, it makes others laugh at you, and it cost you nothing.
compare the growth for the past 3 yrs. 2019, China GDP $14.28 trillion, 2021 $17.7 trillion, India 2019, $2.87 trillion, 2021. $3.17 trillion.
for 3 yrs, China increased $3.4 trillion with each year $1. 1 trillion, that is about 7% growth each year.
India for 3 years increased $0.3 trillion, each year about $0.1 trillion, that is 3.4% growth.
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any nation, by the end, the fate of it is determined by the people of that nation, it is the fate, in history, many nations disappeared. no one can save it. 75 years history showed, this India is on a road to nowhere. its GDP was 3.5 % % to the world when British left, now it is the same, so it means, it is BS so called 'fastest growth". With the world largest size of arable land, (25% more than China), got global hunger index 107, sure you do not believe western bias to India, you can just check total grain yield from Indian government and divide it by the population, you can do the same to China, data showed, China grain per capita 490 kg, vs India 225 kg. This is just in one aspect, it is the same to all other aspects. Wondering what are you doing, seems all BSting no working.
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history showed, whoever trained by US would lost. haha , Korean war? South Korean army totally lost, Vietnam war? South Vietnam army lost, Iraq army, useless, Afghanistan army? lost to Taliban, Georgia army trained by US army, lost to Russia, Ukraine army trained by US army, lost to Russian army
It is now Indian army's turn, way to go 😀😀😀
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India is not a place for Industrialization, no energy resources except coal, heavy polluter, with Delhi daily air quality index over 380, compare to London 21, Beijing 37, Paris 42, kills 2.3 million people a year due to air pollution. with all the money wasted and environment polluted, yet no industrial products are compatible in the world market. with limited money, should be put into people's welfare, but no, India spent huge amount of money buying expensive useless toy, an F35 cost less than $100 million, yet India bought Rafale for $250 million each, OK you cannot get F35, but Su 35 is also only $80 million each, you think 3 Su-35 cannot beat a Rafale? totally with no brain. ,
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@hunter_squadron_nda
I have long been in India media to know the way of Indians talk, what they say about doing something, does not mean they really want to DO it, but only express a wish, i.e, what they want to do, what are their dreams (most of time, they cannot tell the difference between dreams and reality), does not mean they are going really to do it, or they never think if they can do or how to do it. Once they said what they want to do (a wish), then for them, it is done already, they never think about it again, and then forget about it, forget what they said they want to do, let alone really do anything.
especially in this kind media, these people only job is to say things, it is not for them to do anything, and they do not care or do not know how to real do anything,
so when anyone hear something they talk like "strike China", or "free Tibet" , even "boycott China", ........etc etc, all nothing but far......................ts ,
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煉 れん 獄 ごく 杏 きょう 壽 じゅ 郎 ろう let us do this comparison, in 1962, we captured 4000 of your almighty army, tell me how many PLA you caught in any Sino India war?? let me tell you, 0, again in 1967 too, do you know why ??
because 1967 was not even a fking war but some border skirmish, both sides only shot a few rounds of artillery shells, what victory?? you know nothing about it
it is your tradition to make up BS victories, haha :)) just can fool your own fools like you, hah a:))
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In reality, the only significant obstacle for China concerning India is South Tibet (Zangnan). While Indians may perceive additional obstacles, we are not concerned about those perceptions. It would be in the best interest of both countries to peacefully return South Tibet to China. Otherwise, we will reclaim it by alternative means. Afterward, you may continue to harbor animosity towards China, boycott our products, engage in border skirmishes, or propagate daily falsehoods about China. However, we remain indifferent to these actions. We will pursue our path, and you may pursue yours, even though it may lead to nowhere, with no hope or future, as history has demonstrated.
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Indians have no vision, GE414 cannot fly by itself, you do not have it, you need to make it, then that will take 10 years, then another 10 years to put it on to a jet, so 20 years later, when it comes, not, China has 6th or 7th generation fighters out, you have a 3 gen. or 4 th gen, how can that be any useful??
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the problem is we can let F35 no where to land, vertical or not. F35 is a very sluggish fighter, with short range, only 750 fighting radium, (China is not Iraq, impossible to let its AC get so close to China) , fly slow, 1.6 Mach, with DF 21D anti ship missile (2500 km range), DF 17 hypersonic missile (range 1500 km with accuracy of 2 meters), quad warships are all just targets for PLA
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let me explain why China and India have so much trouble at the border, the reason is your old master British, the British had just nobody map survey, called nobody Johnson, with his pleasure, just draw a line on map, called Johnson line, so put all Aksai chin into India (at that time British Raj), without agreement from Chinese government, after India got independent, India insist what British draw line as border, sure China will never agree, Indians do not understand, you are not British, now is not 1890, know your place, do not insist what British enforced on China, it will never work. It is the same as so notorious McMahon line. we will take whole South Tibet back soon.
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Let me ask you a very simple question, now seems you swing back to Russia, if China attack India now to take back South Tibet, who do you think you can get help from?? US? certainly not, Russia, haha :) )impossible, so you are on your own, can you fight China on your own, certainly, like you won in 1962? and in 2020, as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ..........." 😁😁😁
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@unniramesh5733 of course, tell me, any Indian army got into China side? tell me, how many PLA you captured? 0, haha :) as always, what so what victory? in 1962 we captured near 4000 Indian army, in 2020, well, you count yourself, as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ..........."
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he never fulfilled his promise on election, now he is drawing another big fancy pie in the air for Indians to enjoy the empty dreams, and as before, no need to wait for 25 yrs, now Indians already forgot what he promised 2.5 years ago.
Modi promised India’s GDP growth rate will be 9-10 per cent by 2022, however, in 2019, growth rate, 4.5%, 2020, growth rate , -7.3%, 2021, 8.1% average for 3 years, 1.77%
Modi promised :India will be free of malnutrition by 2022.", today, The India Express reported, "Over 35.5% kids stunted, govt releases target to curb malnutrition"
Just check his record on promises, job for youth? 1%, fulfilled? Double farmers pay? no, $5 trillion economy by now? none, make in India? none. ................now more promises.
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this tiny little country with 26 million people can develop much better weapons than this big country with 1.38 billion people, NK's new ballistic missile is on railway train move to different places to launch, this 1.38 billion people country cannot even do that, what they can do is only put Agnis onto a tow truck but can only launch it in a fixed place.this bigger country is totally useless, haha :)) NK can make cruise missile with 1500 km range, this huge 1.38 billion people cannot, only use Brahmos with range of 290 km, haha :)) again, totally useless, but wait, they have a giant huge big mouth that can beat everything, haha :)) DRDO is the most (not one of ) incompetent defense organization in the entire universe. haha :))
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very simple, the reason of doing this is the engine, GE F404 is too weak, only 81 kn, single engine, no need to compare to J20 (with new WS 15, 180 kn, x 2), even compare to J10 , single engine, WS 13, with 100 kn. even better than proposed (on paper) Tejas 2 with GE 414, with 91 kn, now PAF has 24 J10C, will get more,
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Indians always claim how mighty their army is, but there are tons of video and photos showing how PLA beat the sht out of this almighty army, but Indians cannot even provide one single photo to prove, but only with their big mouth to make all kinds BS, haha , they do not even have an agreed number for themselves, it goes from 38, 40, 43, 45...................60, ..............105.........haha.
as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious......."
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Jaishankar is the worst FM in the whole history of the Republic of India. What did India achieve in diplomacy?? make relationship with China worse got 20 Indian army killed, lost all 10 pp in Ladakh, all South Asian countries are getting closer to China, US sent warship into India EEZ and does not provide a single dose of vaccine to India, lost Russia as ally but Russia got more connection with Pakistan , he is just a joke, US cannot keep the burden of 40 million AFG, how can US afford to defend 1.4 billion India against the real superpower China?? at the same time, US is upgrading Pakistan F16, send diplomats into Azade Kashmir, blocking Indians visa into US?? God is far, China is just at the doorstep. completely lost everything in AFG but created a new enemy for India,
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seems Indian government needs a lot to learn how to run a country, haha :)) we have 5000 years history, most of the time run by Han Chinese, in all the time by Chinese culture, not as in India, for the past 1000 yrs, most first half by Muslims, and later 300 years by British, and by Congress after independence, BJP only run a country for less than 10 yrs, they do not know how to run it, never heard "co-existence", too new to BJP
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There is no worry about Pakistan, to avoid nuclear war, the US was always in the past to keep a military balance between India and Pakistan. so that not allow India to have too much military power over Pakistan which would force Pakistan to use nuclear weapon against India, today, China is an iron brother of Pakistan, will never allow India do anything to Pakistan, China has a brigade of strategic supporting troop stationed in Pakistan, the commander of the troop was the current China's defense minister General Li, the work of the troop was at least in part shown in the 2019 Balakok war, in which, not a single IAF smart bomb hit the target, and with mig 21 shot down and pilot tasted fantastic tea
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by this we know, no matter what joint statement you have with the US, you are not the real friends of the US, since no majorities of the Americans treat you like that, represented by Obama. you are very very isolated in the world, you had Russia, now you jumped into the US, you lost Russia by yourself, you not loyal to any other old friend, to be a puppet of the US, you forget Russia, to get cheap oil your forget US, haha, such a hypocritic country, amazing, totally have no concept of what principle as a country should be.
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@madhavsharma7222 hah :)) what a joke, you do not even know how to read the rank report, go back read it again, there is a over all rank at the left side of the table, in it, IAF is behind Egypt air force, far away from China, the trick of the report is they divided the airforce in to many sections.
Egypt has more Rafale, they are ordering 30 more, with current 24, total 54, you have 36, they have F 16 CD, you do not, they have Su 35, you do not.
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@ayushgaur3943 you will be back at the time Babur first came to India "“Hindustan is a country of a few charms. Its people have no good looks, no good manners, no genius or capacity. There are no good horses, no good dogs, no grapes, muskmelons or good fruits, no ice or cold water, no bread or cooked food in the markets, no hot baths, no colleges, no candles, torches or candle sticks. In places of candle and torch they keep lamp-men to carry oil-lamps from place to place. There are no running waters in their gardens or residences. Their residences have no charm, air, regularity or symmetry. Peasants and poor people move about mostly naked. The males use mostly languta and the females covered their body only with one cloth.”
–Babur
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Indians have no concept of logic, they like to say what they think but they do not understand, that is just their own opinions, which are useless, the essential in Greek concept of logic is "argument" in which it consists of 2 parts, 1, views, and 2 reasoning or evidence to support the view, Indians would just say what they think but no reasoning or evidence for it, so it is basically just total BS, nobody gives a fk whatever they say. haha :)) One important part of reasoning or argument in the modern time is photo, which can reflect the real thing, the fact, as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious.......", no matter what Indians claim they have won, pity is they cannot even provide a single photo to show it, so they use some thing made in Bollywood to fake it, haha :) so funny and dumbbb and desperate. :))
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Rafale with 6 missiles, the RCS is 10, you can say its RCS is 0.5 without missile, but what it is for without?? sight seeing?? haha :)) no matter what features you put in it it will not change this basic feature, in war, J20 can detect it over 200 km in distance, (in real war J20 does not turn on radar but guided to Rafale with China's AWACS KJ-500 450 km away) and at 80 km launch PL 12 (range 120 km) to it, Rafale at the same time cannot detect J20 until 30 km in distance, which J20 will never get to, All Abhinandan can hear is a nice women voice "missile, missile, missile........." (with French accent) then %^&*($QEQ%QTRRT%%^&%%%,, he had to jump again to have another fantastic tea, this time in China
then repeated for other 35 of them, but India is so super rich, can buy another 36 with $250 million each, then the process can get repeated (while India is waiting for the rest of Rafale, China has now put 100 J20 into service already)
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Indians are very keen on playing with names, not the nature behind it, but nature is more important than names, they just do not understand it, it is easy to change name, but you are what you are, a poor giant country with huge population with very low average income, cannot make anything to compete in the world, the army lose to all the major war to China, as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ...........".
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it is easy to say thing than to make things
1. you need whole industry with high level, you do not, for example you need a special alloy for tanks or jet engine, where you can get it? you cannot just make it for weapons that will be too expensive, you do not have that kind industry
2. you need expertees, , all your students do not go back to India for this
3. you need testing facilities, you do not
4. you need money, huge amount, since you need many times of testing, you are very poor , you do not have money for that.
most basic reason is you are a poor third world developing country, so make peace with all your neighbors stop trying to be an BS super power,only focus on economy development to raise the living standard of your people is the only way.
but hey, it is your money, waste as much as you like
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Ever since BJP took the power , India played tough on China, for about near 10 years what India got from this policy? in any practical meaning? nothing, 2017 Doklam, PLA is still in there and turn it from just a border post into a solid strong military fortress, from where China can use rocket artillery completely block Siliguri corridor. 2020 Galwan?? well no need to say much, as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious.......". Jumping into US arms? well, just have a look at Ukraine is beaten the sht off, US only sells weapons to make money, will US save India, it can, only in your dreams.
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it is a tradition of this country, always think foreign companies do business in India just for making Indians money for their own profit, of course that is the main reason, that is what they life for, but at the same time, Indians got jobs, government got tax, the many made will spend in India to support other things such as gas station, restaurants, ..................... but Indians do not care, believe India can do all things by Indian company (actually they are the same just for making money). with this kind mentality, India almost bankrupted, so it had to change, in 1990, India got reform and welcomed foreign investment and companies, it saved India, now India forgot all about the that and trying to go back to before 1990? very good, it is your country, sure you know how to run it, as shown India GDP is 2.7% of world GDP now, just as the same as when British left India, for 75 years, nothing changed, way to go.
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Bose was just a loser, chose wrong side as support for his India independent dream, the only would work would be like Mao, organize his own people, arm them, educate them, depend on them to get the power of independence, Bose's way , chose Nazi to fight British, was just foolish, would never work, the US, USSR all will stand with British to defeat him
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the duty of a foreign minister is to get more and more friends in the world for his country, however, under Jaishankar, India is getting more and more isolated daily in the world, at the same time, this guy is only on BS with his big mouth, slam this country today and send strong warning to others tomorrow, which no other country give a fk about all these. India pissed off US, EU, neighbors all get closer to China, China the number 1 enemy of India getting stronger daily, 3 things that Indians considered as gems of India are actually trashes, 1. DRDO. 2. ISRO. 3. Jaishankar
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compare to India Tibetans average GDP per person is near $10000 vs India's $2250, Tibet with people 6 per sq km, compare to India's 440 :)) Tibet has no air pollution, compare to India Air quality index (AQI) and PM2.5 air pollution in India near 300 year around, and got to 500 in winter in Dehli, 2021 Diwali time, it was 999, and this year got 854, :) Tibet has high speed rail to travel the whole India does not.
Each Tibet family in the area has at least 100 yaks, each can be sold from $ 1500 to $4000 (RMB 10000-30000 yuan), once they have money, Tibetans like to buy cars, they like Toyota Landcruiser very much which cost about $60000 in China, one village near Lhasa is called Landcruiser village since every one family has a Toyota landcruiser.
Tibetans can travel in Tibet with High speed rail, the whole India does not have, with only trains speed of 60 km per hour, better just take ox cart, that would be safer :))
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all anti China politicians and reporters got bad ending,
Trump.lost election,
Morrison, lost election,
Steven bannen, in jail,
borris, lost job,
Liz lost job,
palki, got fired.
Shinzo Abe, killed.
next will be Sunak haha :)
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This country so much in making lies, enjoy lies and spreading lies, they live in their fantasy of lies and dreams since the reality hurt them so much they cannot bear the failure or defeat, they do not work hard on ways to win to defeat enemies in future but just make a fake victory with made up numbers to release the misery of their defeat. It is not a national thing, it is a religion thing, since the same race in its both north and south side of the country with the same race but in different religion are much better with honesty and kind in mind. Nobody denies its religion is long, however, long does not mean good, it contains full of trashes from thousands for years, current people and government took all, and so treat all the trashes in it as treasure.
in it, telling lies is permitted as long as it not do it may make the person in danger, but anyone can just make this decision by him(her)self, so easiest is just telling lies. it is very convenient. the result is everyone lies in this country, from top government officials to the media to the ordinary people, this kind country has no future, since their future is just in their wildest dreams such as "superpower 2020" but not on well wised planing and hard working.
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@vanshbansaliitbhu1474 real danger is, Indian agriculture is very backwards, with huge population, over 600-800 million in agriculture, but they cannot produce much, especially grain, China's grain total production is more than 2 times of India, with less arable land, which means India per land yield is very low, not very efficient, with Modi's new farm law, yes, farmers can sell freely, but at the same time, buyers do not need to buy from Indian farmers, Ambanis can directly buy from world grain market, what Indian farmer can do ? nothing. they will no income at all and Ambanis would not care about it at all.
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for the past 75 yrs , India's GDP contribution to the world remain as when British left, 3.5% to the world, in Asia, India GDP was 12% of Asia in 1985, same as China at the time, now China is 46.6% of Asia GDP, India is 8%, compare to other countries in Asia, Vietnam is almost twice as faster than India, India economy will go fast is just BS and a dream.
2019, China GDP $14.28 trillion, 2021 $17.7 trillion, India 2019, $2.87 trillion, 2021. $3.17 trillion.
for 3 yrs, China increased $3.4 trillion with each year $1. 1 trillion, that is about 7% growth each year.
India for 3 years increased $0.3 trillion, each year about $0.1 trillion, that is 3.4% growth.
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typical Indian way of thinking , ie never need any proof or evidence, as long as he thinks or believes, then that must be truth, hah :)) BS 1. Nehru gave Tibet to China, BS 2, Nehru gave UN SC Permanent member to China, ha a:)) only people with extreme low iq would believe those, haah :)
Nehru was a leader of India who tried (but failed) everything for India, how many years he has passed away? for all these years, what his successors achieved better than him?? at Nehru's time, India and China had the same GDP, now India's GDP is 1/6.4 of China's, you cannot blame Nehru for that I guess??
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for such kind space travel , due to the earth is around and turning, so there is always time that at certain place (such as India) cannot contact the satellite in space, so you need to have at least 3 ground stations in apart 120 degrees on the earth to contact space probe continuously, NASA and ESA (Europe space agency) all have many ground stations around the globe, it is called deep space network, DSN, China also, beside ground stations, China use yuanwang ships with huge antennas in the different part of the world oceans to do the job, the whole India only has one ground station in Delhi, so India's space travel needs help from NASA and ESA,but have you ever heard your media mentioned them?? they all make it sounds like it is done all by India itself. For India's moon trip, both NASA and ESA helped, this time too, the DSN provided by ESA
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in 2014, India GDP $2 trillion, China, $10 trillion. China was 5 times of India, in 2022, under Modi, so called "fastest growth" , India GDP $3.4 trillion, China $18.2 trillion, China is 5.3 times of India,
in 2014, Manufacturer output in India was $307 billion, China was $3.184 trillion, about 10 times of India, in 2022, India manufacturer output is $418 billion, China is $5 trillion, 12 times of India's so under Modi's make in India, India 's gap to China increased.
When Congress was running India, for 9 years, India GDP increased 2.5 times, since 2014 Modi runs India, for 9 years India GDP growth 1.7 times.
data showed, Modi has not been able to run India better than Congress, also he did not accomplish any of his promises to India people. but hey, it is your country, choose the one you like. "every nation gets a government (a PM) it deserves."
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this government can fool its own people, not others from outside, under its leadership for 10 years, the most important aspect for a strong country is its industry, under this government, manufacture in GDP dropped from 16% to 13%. not jobs for youth, most of them going back to rural, totally wasted so called, youth benefit. the so called rapid (or fastest) growth was mainly on by borrowing money (one important source for it is from AIIB, a Chinese bank set up for BRI projects, India is the biggest money borrower, or in its own logic, in a Chinese debt trap) for infrastructures building, that is just one building roads, airports, bridges, dams, tunnels, ..........it is an easy work, as long as you have money, not much high tech in any of them, but will generate a fake image of rapid growth, the question is can these generate enough income to pay back the interest that the current government needs to pay every month?? while warning other countries about the debt trap this government fell into it by itself, just to have a faked rapid growth to fool its people to get reelected.
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the people of this country got some kind illness in their brains, they do not have anything to show off, they cannot make anything, they achieved nothing but so proud of themselves for nothing, also like a main anchor of wion channel, everyday she spreads hatred towards China and Pakistan, these people throw away the only good thing from this country, Buddhism, since the core of it is kindness, but the people of this country has all lost it, all they have left for them is boasting, and arrogant, rude, with no manners, ...............
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No US or any other west country dared to send troop to Ukraine to fight Russia, same is true, no other country would send troops to India to fight China if there is a war, but we did that to North Korea, in 1950 ,China had nothing, could not even make bicycle, but we dared to fight the US just for North Korea, that is what brother for us means, today, we certainly will do the same for our iron brother Pakistan if India dare to make any trouble to Pakistan.
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90% of Indians live at $2 a day, it is very easy to calculate, reason is 10% of top Indians own 77% of India wealth (use the data from G..gle, with an Indian as its CEO), , wealthy is difficult to calculate so use GDP, assume India GDP is $4 trillion (actually not that much) , since 77% for the top 10%, rest of 90% shares rest of 23%, which is $ 920 billion, divided by 1.26 billion, that is $750 a year, or $2 a day (actually $1.97 a day)
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anyone knows little bit about Analytical Geometry would know that for pin point a spot, you have have 2 straight line crossed at a point, that spot will be accurately expressed in number, in 2 D or in 3D, more lines crossed the the spot will be more accurate, this is also true for a moving object to pin point it in the space at any given time point. and it is the bases for tracking a airplane or a missile. China has long range AESA radar in multiple location facing India on the top of Himalaya mountains, one from Ladakh, one in the eastern sector near Tawang area, also one in Gwadar in Pakistan, with more than 4000 km detection/tracking range, plus now with Yuanwang ship with tracking ability in the bay of bengal, therefore, all missiles, airplanes from India will be accurately detected and tracked, if any of the missile or jets get into China, they will be intercepted and destroyed. Delhi is 400 km from China border, Beijing is 3300 km away, with multiple anti missile systems (which China has demonstrated can shoot satellite down), so there is no chance for any old fashion Agnis can reach target in China, on the other hand for India, S400 cannot intercept China's hypersonic missile, also cannot intercept China's long range rockets (PHL 191 with range up to 500 km, which covers Delhi completely).
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I feel very sorry for India, all you show off as great achievements are actually showed how backwards you are compare to PLA. PLA use PHL 16 (go check it), with range 150-500 km, with accuracy at 300 km within 1 meter, (it is not mainly for India but for Taiwan) each unit with 8 rocket to launch at one time, a battalion has 12 units, one launch together will be 8X12=96 rockets, only 2 times will be 192. Lots of the units are operated by female PLA soldiers. for India, we do not need to launch them at so far distance, so accuracy will be even higher, :))
Delhi is 400 km from China, so it will be reach it with no problem, we are at 4600 meter higher top the mountain, the range will be longer, so one time just use one battalion, (we have more than 10), we can send 96 to Delhi, 2 times, 192, ..............happy Dewali. :)
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China has weapons that India can only dream of, namely,
1, stealthy fighters,
2. Hypersonic missiles, a
nd 3. tens of thousands of all kinds of attacking drones. India does not.
This time, it is the best for India just concede South Tibet to China peaceful, everything will be fine, we do business as usual, otherwise, not only we will take back South Tibet, we will also to get all your NE states get independent from India, and worst is to turn all your country back to 562 "princeful states" or tribes.
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Compared to Nehru's government, the current BJP/Modi government now are cowards. In 1962, Nehru ordered the Indian army to "kick the Chinese out," with full support from his Defense Minister V. K. Krishna Menon and his army, led by Lieutenant General Brij Mohan Kaul, the commander of the 4th army on the front line. They displayed remarkable bravery, fighting despite the odds, and their heroic actions will be remembered. However, today, facing China in 2020, Modi didn't even dare to mention China's name, let alone order the army to engage in combat. The army chief instructed the front line not to fire a single shot and to lower the artillery barrels facing China, indicating that India did not want to engage in hostilities.
Recently, I revisited the Chinese newspaper and CCP's mouthpiece, "People's Daily," from 1962 before the war. There were numerous warnings and reports of the Indian army shooting and killing many PLA soldiers, as well as multiple protests from China regarding India's military planes violating Chinese airspace. this space invasion from India to China all the way from 1960s to the end of 1990s, ...today, none, only showed Indian army was beaten, as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ..........."
Major of the Indian Army's victories occurred under the Congress party's leadership, not the BJP's. These victories include reclaiming Goa in 1962, securing Bangladesh's independence in 1971,
In contrast, the BJP's actions have been less successful. For instance, in 2017 during the Doklam standoff, the army withdrew following China's final warning. Today, the Chinese PLA remains stationed in Doklam, transforming it into a fortified military base and constructing multiple villages in the area.
In 2019 Barakot air strike totally failed, with no target destroyed but with a mig 21 shot down, with its pilot invited to taste Fantastic tea, and lost a helicopter with total 9 on board, completely a disaster for IAF.
Furthermore, in May 2020, 72 Indian soldiers were wounded by PLA forces and hospitalized at Pangong Lake. Then, on June 15-16, 20 soldiers were killed, and 200 others were captured by the PLA. This information was reported in The Express Tribune article dated October 10th, 2021, titled "Indians furious..."
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@lovemynation
You mentioned the book "Himalaya Blunder," but I bet you've never read it. In it, Dalvi said, "Now people blame Nehru; however, since India is a democratic country, the responsibility actually lies upon each and every one of its citizens." As for me, I'm only here for teasing; I genuinely don't care who gets elected because one is bad, and another is worse. The problem in your country isn't solely who becomes the Prime Minister but rather the myriad fundamental issues in society, the political system, culture, religion, land reform, tradition, ideology, and so on. Without an overall revolution, there's no way to change it, and without change, there's no future or hope. Since a revolution is impossible, I have to reiterate: your country has no hope, no future. It makes no difference whether it's Congress or BJP.
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Indians are very keen on meetings, like the tea boy joined all the meetings, start from "democracy conference", then Quad, then Brics, then G7.... ooops Nato did not invite the tea boy, but hey, so many meeting, what India got from all these meetings??????????? nothing. Now , another one, G20, haha :)) so why Indians like meetings so much?? the reason is , all Indians can do is just talking, that is why they like meeting so much.
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when Indians talking, they had no concept what is an opinion what is an argument, all they have is what they feel, they think, they were lied about , they have no data, no evidence support, for them, they are not important, they do not know only argument count, nobody gives a fk whatever you feel, you think, you dream, you say, argument consists of 2 part, 1. an opinion, 2, evidence to support the opinion.
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why India cares so much about UN?UN is nothing to a real country, only matter to cowards, Russia continues the war in Ukraine, does not care what UN solutions,
Indians should not cry if they know some history of UN, in 1950, UN made a resolution to form army consists of 16 countries (with India in it with a medical team) force lead by US army with WWII hero, the liberator of Philippines and occupier of Japan, 5 star Gen. MacArthur as commander in Chief to fight North Korean army, so Korean war started under UN, China at the time, just did not give a fk about UN or not UN, in late October 1950, China sent PLA into Korea to fight this so called UN force, in 3 month time, in Jan 1951, PLA kicked all UN force out of North Korea. So do not cry, why you worry China block or not? if you really want to fight those India believes the so called "terrorists" , why not learn from China? just send your almighty, always won, never defeated, never captured, never shotdown, never invited to have fantastic tea army to fight them? haha :))
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Total AC now, China , 3 , 2 65000 tons, 1 80000 tons, India , 2, each 40000 tons, China is 130000 tons more than India,
total 13000 tons type 055 destroyers, China 8, India, 0
total 7000 tons destroyers, India total 4, China, 26. type 052 D.
Anti Ship missile, India, Brahmos, speed M 3, range 290 km,
China, hypersonic, YJ 21, speed M 7, range 1500 km
YJ 12, speed M4, range 400 km
YJ 18, range 600 km, can be launched from submarines.
China will sink all India warships in war in about 2 weeks time. sa-you-nala
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India as a nation (Hindus) has never been a nation shown good at fighting and from thousands of years of survival (they do not have a history, but only survived) , they seldom had any hero in the past. for thousands for years, this nation was conquered by all kinds of foreign intruders, Persians, Turks, Mongules, .....British, you name it, Hindu, beside the BS Hinduism which cannot even be qualified as a real religion but all fairy tales, day dreams. .......has no history, their so called history are actually those intruders who founded their rule in this piece of land we call India today, where no resistance, and not change for the intruders for thousands of years. today it remains the same, this nation has never been able to show they can fight a real war against an enemy with the similar size and strength. Not like Korea, Afghanistan, or Vietnam. It is the nature of this nation, all they have is a big boasting mouth, nothing else.
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so China is building more roads bridges and villages in Laddak South Tibet and Doklam, with the commander of PLA in Galwan, Senior Col. Qi Fabao, attended the CCP congress to meet his commander in chief, President Xi. ................all these are "new normal" haha :)) all this Gem of India (read as trash of India), has is a big mouth, nothing else, with him, German called Azade Kashmir, US is upgrading F16 for Pakistan, haha :) and all enjoy the new normal photos as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ..........."
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with decades of west and US sanctions, North Korea GHI 97,vs India 107, NK can make ICBM reach US, India cannot, NK can make hypersonic missile, India cannot, NK can make large attacking drones, Indian cannot, NK is 1000 times cleaner than the cesspool of India. ............so tell me, why you laugh at NK??
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once war started, the first wave of attack from China will be to use hypersonic missiles to destroy S400, then the sky will be controlled by PLAAF with J20 and J16 and J10C ,none of India's Rafale, Su30 MKI or Mig 21 can do anything, with air superiority established by PLAAF, all roads, camps, bunkers, artillery positions, tanks, airfields, ..............are just practice targets for China
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whole IAF is totally out of date, in the era of 5th G stealthy fighter, they are still chosen FA 18, haha, so why not you just use your Tejas if it so good? haha :) slap on your own face. At the same time, China put second stealthy fighter, for aircraft carrier, J 35 into service. PAF has now J10 c, have you seen its performance in Zhuhai air show? with PL 15, it will shoot your Rafale down, haha :) still dreaming the junk Tejas, what a joke!
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IN is a joke to PLAN, just one example, for 7500 ton class destroyer, China has 35, India? 3. hha:)) for 13000 ton class, China has 8, INdia? 0. for nuclear sub, China has 16, INdia? 1
just do not forget to close latch to let sea water to soak the engine room or careful not to hit rock to destroy the sonar room, hhaa :)) or not play with torpedo to let them blow up the sub haha :)) you have such glories history
US use quad for India as a barking dog, when for the real thing, AUKUS, they just do not care about India at all. hah:)
the key is Indians have no talent nor money to make things themselves. it is the fate, with more high tech involved in the weapons, India will get farther lag behind, with a country ' GDP only 1/6 of China, and R&D budget is on 0.7% of its GDP, compare to China's 2.2%, the difference in 6x2.2/0.7=18.5 each year, for 10 years, that is 185 times. the number 1 university in India ranked behind 500 in the world, compare to China, China's scientific papers has over taken US as the number 1 in the world, same as patents. India is country totally has no hope, no future
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There is a tradition for India, that is they can always find and report problem, and then, that is it, for them, once they reported it and talked about it, then it is done, no plan, no action will be taken, until next time, they will report new problem, the cycle goes on and on, until a day they cannot report problem any more, since at the time, once again, just like 100 years ago, there is not an independent country in the world called India
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oldest? but useless, for the past 1000 year, India was ruled by all kinds of intruders, Persians, Turks, Monguls, ...British, you name it, they all set up their rules in this land, with this nation could not do anything, no resistance, no hero.
Karl Marx said: "Indian society has no history at all, at least no known history. What we call its history, is but the history of the successive intruders who founded their empires on the passive basis of that unresisting and unchanging society. The question, therefore, is not whether the English had a right to conquer India, but whether we are to prefer India conquered by the Turk, by the Persian, by the Russian, to India conquered by the Briton."
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Compared to Nehru's government, current government now are cowards. In 1962, Nehru ordered the Indian army to "kick the Chinese out," with full support from his Defense Minister V. K. Krishna Menon and his army, led by Lieutenant General Brij Mohan Kaul, the commander of the 4th army on the front line. They displayed remarkable bravery, fighting despite the odds, and their heroic actions will be remembered. However, today, facing China in 2020, Modi didn't even dare to mention China's name, let alone order the army to engage in combat. The army chief instructed the front line not to fire a single shot and to lower the artillery barrels facing China, indicating that India did not want to engage in hostilities.
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@AT-vq6nu you do not know anything about nuclear weapons obviously, China's first H bomb was with 3 million tons TNT, India? does not have it, although they claim they have it, but max amount was 54 k t TNT, showed it was just a failed attempt. Secondly, India does not have any mobile nuclear missile as China's DF 26, DF 31 and DF 41, all India has is put Agni 5 on a tow cart, and can only launch it from certain fixed sites which are already targeted by China various missiles, in the first wave of war, they will be destroyed before firing, and China has multiple layers of anti ballistic missile system, from India to Beijing is 3300 km, from China to Delhi is 400 km, so if India dare to do it Delhi will be disappeared in about 5-10 min.
China has thermal nuclear warheads (if you know what that is) each one with about 300 kt TNT (if you know what means) India only has fission nuclear warheads (if you know what that means) with about 10-15 kt TNT, so each China's nuke head is about 30-20 times of India, let assume 20, western reported China has about 600 nuke warheads, India110 (assume them are true), then China has 20x600= 12000 equivalent vs 110 India has, yeah, good idea, let us play some nuke game, haha :))
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@AT-vq6nu S Korean army was very shityy army , hah :) ) in Korean war, US put them at side to protect flanks of US, PLA would just attack South Korean army first, then once fight started, they all run for their lives, so exposed whole side of US army to PLA, haha :) so US army needs run too, or they would be surrounded by PLA, hah:) )
also in war, PLA sent a special force directly into the back of South Korean army, attacked a head of a brigade, and destroyed it, it is called "White Tiger Brigade" now we have the "White Tiger Brigade" flag in our military museum in Beijing. hah :)
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haha :) India is so isolated in the world, with no real friend, only a customer to Russia, a barking dog to the US (and be beaten all the time by the master), with enemies at the door step, and even UN joined for fun, hah, of course, Indians will , as they always, blame all others, but not themselves. hah :))
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Under this gem of India (read it as trash of India), India is getting more isolated daily, look around India, Pakistan and China, enemies of India,Nepal PM once he got elected (he just did) he would ask India to return the territory occupied by India, Bangladesh just invited to send navy ships to its navy holiday, SL does not give a fk about India's request for not allowing China's YW ships to dock at Hanbantoda port. Even Bhutan sent delegations to China to seek improve relationship, and denied India said China set up villages in Bhutan, you are so alone. Even FIFA kicked out India football. haha :)
now you started fighting with your master, haha :) )
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real India GDP is only $1.77 trillion, India like to fake its number to show off as how big its economy sounds, however, although they can fake GDP number, they cannot fake the real budget number, that is how much money the Indian government can spend, since you cannot spend the faked money, you can only spend real money, that is reflected in India's annual spending, usually a country spend about more than 20 %, India?? India boasted its GDP is $3.16 Trillion, but total India budge is only $400 billion, that is only 12.6%, compare to China's 22.5%, with total China's spending of $3.85 trillion which is 9.625 times of India's. Assume India's spending is also the 22.5% of its real GDP, the real India GDP is only $1.77 trillion. it is not easy to lie :))
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when Indians got defeated, they would produce whole sets of theories to show they actually won with a full of BS, however, they cannot even provide any proof, they have no concept what evidence or proof is, not known why it is important, to Indians, what important is how many people believe what they say. so if more people think their BS is truth, then it must be, hah :)
i can put a photo to show my point, they cannot, but they can put a whole article to show they won. All I need is a photo , they do not have any.
as shown Oct 10th 2021 The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious...................."
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India is just in a very awkward position, since it clearly see the rapid growth of China's military power, but its own military stayed at 1980 years old level, haha :) )let me simply point out 3 major developments in 21st century military which China has all, India has none: 1. stealthy fighters (over 200 in China), 2. hypersonic missiles, (DF 17, DF 21 and DF 26), 3. attacking drones (too many new versions to mention, with now carried and launched not just from ground but from H6 bomber in the air, and with experienced PLAAF pilots control them, PLA has formed attacking drones brigades in PLAAF as formal fighting units )
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Project 15 B, total 4, 7400 tons, this is the 2nd, for the same class, in China, 74000 tons , total 26.
for larger 13000 tons class, type 055, total 8, finished, 6. India, 0, not even on paper. no plan.
weapons, for antiship missile, Brahmos, range 290 k, speed Mach 4,
China's antiship missile, YJ21, hypersonoic Mach 7, range, 1500 km.
you should pray, do not let it meet O52D or type 055 of China's navy in war.
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There is no "argument" in India, since 'argument" consists of 2 parts. 1 opinion 2. fact supports opinion. In India they only have opinions which are based on what they believe, not fact needed. Only dependent on belief is called religion, based on fact and logic, is science. In India only religion, no science, nor logic. For religion, it originated with multiple gods, then graduated in Ancient Egypt under The Pharaoh Akhenaten, forming a single God, Sun god. but in India, Hinduism still remained as the most primitive form, with over 200 million different gods. this nation, never development, not fit to the modern civilization at all
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a very simple fact is , all UNSC permanent members have real H-Bombs, India only claimed it has, in fact, its tiny bomb with 50k TNT does not qualify, so you should work hard to earn it, however, even you do, we can still veto you, haha :)) sad, but true. hahah :))
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Give you an example and tell me what you can do, to attack India, since Delhi is so close to China, China launched 2000 attacking drones with 1000 short range missiles, for each anti ballistic system, you need to send 2 to each, so you need to launch 2000 to 6000 anti missiles, haha :))
you cannot do the same to China, since there is almost nothing within 2000 km to India, Beijing is 3300 km away, so you cannot use short range missiles but your long range missile Agni 5, but you do not have so many, haha :)) it needs pass multiple layers of anti missile systems,
God made it this way. :)
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that shows Indians do not have good manner, I suggest you to watch Disney cartoon, Bambi, and remember what the little rabbit said " Mom told me, if you do not have anything nice to say to others, do not say anything at all"
Indians do not understand the meaning of "free speech", it does not mean you can freely insulting to other's and show no respect to others believes.
the people of this country got some kind illness in their brains, they do not have anything to show off, they cannot make anything, they achieved nothing but so proud of themselves for nothing, also like a main anchor of wion channel, everyday she spreads hatred towards China and Pakistan, these people throw away the only good thing from this country, Buddhism, since the core of it is kindness, but the people of this country has all lost it, all they have left for them is boasting, and arrogant, rude, with no manners, ...............
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Lots of very interesting stories India never tell you, hah :)) Same in the Tawang, there is road from Tawang to Tespur, so to defend, India put all the army along the road, with a single line, PLA with occupied Tawang and pushed along the road towards Tespur, and at the same time, send a battalion went around via "Bailey trail" to cut in the middle near Bomdila, with the pressure in front, Indian army withdraw , once PLA cut into the road near Bomdila, they fought the Indian army stationed in there, but Indian soldiers all run into mountains. 7 PLA soldiers knew the whole Indian divisions in front, so they went up the road to set up defense positions, at the time the division head quarter came down, with heavy guns, jeeps and near 10000 army but when they found some PLA already there, they stopped, and carefully checking, since they did not know how many PLA in front, they did not fight, after awhile, they found a tiny road at the side, so they gave up all jeeps and heavy weapons fled from the small side roads, haha :)
PLA went down to Bomdila, in front of them, they saw vast Assam plain
at this time, all officials in Tespur run for their lives, and banks in Tespur burned all Indian currency ..................hah :)
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Indians do not understand, you are there is to peace keeping, not to fight the local people, do know show off how powerful or how brave you are to the local people, India laughed Chinese peace keeping, when facing local people, we just withdraw, not because we cannot fight them, we do not fight local people, if you want to fight, come to Ladakh to fight PLA, as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious......."
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the BRI was from the old silk road, which was started 2000 years ago, for the trade from China to Europe, which is traditionally not pass India, with no intention to include India from China side. so we really do not care if India is in it or not, although India is the biggest money borrower from the AIIB, the bank that set up for BRI, so if BRI is a debt trap, India was in it from the beginning, willingly by itselt in trap invented by themselves, what a joke!
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the core of this, not just in Manipur but everywhere in India, is Modi/BJP trying to push Hindutva as a core and sole religion to rule all other religions and people with other religions in India, that kind attitude, made the Hindus think they are the first class in India can do anything to other people with other religions, so Hindus, or , Meitei who think they are Hindus too, dared to burn church , grab other people's land, take job opportunities from other for themselves. If the other people with different religions try to protect themselves, then they will be labeled as terrorists, and the army sent there to suppress them. such a mother of democracy.
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the core of India's trouble is what Indians spiritual essential, Hinduism, Hinduism cannot even be qualified as a religion but just a mixture of living style, fair tales, wishful thinking and dreams, it never worked in the history of India or India would not have been ruled and colonized for the entire 1000 yrs, it is not working now, as India GDP remains at 2.7% just the same as British left so no change for the past 75 years. , and therefore can predict, it will never work in future. The worse is BJP is trying to push it into its extreme form, Hindutiva, it will get India into deeper trouble, as it showing now.
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Indians here think quad is an Asia nato to fight China led by US, so to kick China out of SCS and occupy those islands, but reality is farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr away from it, let me tell you what quad first head meeting task was, make 1 billion covid vaccine, (sure did not happen), India did not make enough for itself. ok, that is just special time, so after that 2nd head meeting should start fight China in SCS?? well, again, nothing near it, the 2nd meeting decision was to make semiconductor chips in India, not a single maker responded to it. haha :) quad is such a joke!
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India is very good at finding all the plots, plans, ploys ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, of China, but India does not have any solution to any of them, all they can do is watch and cry. haha :)) nothing else.
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haha :)) total BS, 4.9% is 2 years average, much better than India, let me help you to understand it, India last year growth -7.7%, this year prediction, 9.5%, to 2 years average is (-7.7%+9.5%)/2= 0.9%, compare to China's 4.9%, happy now??
same as US, last year -3.5%, this year prediction 6.6%, for 2 years average, (-3.5+6.6%)/2=1.55%, clear now???
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Indians always say copy. copy, just by look at a photo something high tech can be copied? haha :) what a BS. if so, why not you copy a Ferrari for yourself so you can show off on your street?? full of BS. Su30 MKI is licensed to India, with all technical document available to India, however, after all these years, HAL still need to import over 1500 parts and raw materials from Russia, and the cost is more expensive to make it in India than directly buy it from Russia.
if you blame other copy, the logic should be, "you copy, I do not, I can make something better by myself", however, you cannot make a thing, "you copy I do not, so I have nothing", why you so proud of that? you cannot even copy. do you have high moral standard?? that is a BS, why you copy all west patent drugs? it shows, you never shy of copy things you can, for those you have no ability of copying, well it is just convenient to blame others. hah :) but we do not give a fk whatever you say about us., hah :)
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@deepanshusaxena3831 here,
1.India had by far the largest number of zero-food children (6.7 million), which is almost half of all zero-food children in the 92 countries included in this Harvard study.
2.74.1% of Indians unable to afford a healthy diet: FAO ReportReport provides startling figures of country’s position on malnutrition and stunted growth
3. with globe hunger index 111, 6th from the last one.
4. India’s Income Inequality Is Now Worse Than Under British Rule, New Report Says
5. Mumbai has the India most billionaires (297 of them) at the same time, Dharavi is a residential area in Mumbai, Maharashtra, India. It has often been considered to be one of the world's largest slums. Dharavi has an area of just over 2.39 square kilometres (0.92 sq mi; 590 acres) and a population of about 1,000,000.,
6. India has approximately 12 666 377 child labourers total. Uttar Pradesh, a state in northern India, has 19,27,997 child labourers. Delhi, the capital of India, has over 1 million child labourers.
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the border trouble was from British, India just inherited the problem made by British British sent a nobody map surveyor called something Johnson, this guy just draw a line on a map so created a notorious "Johnson line" to put all Aksai chin into India, haha :) then now India claim Aksai chi is theirs, haha :)) what a joke! If Johnson draw a line in Shanghai, then we need to give all China to India? hahah :) please remember, British was your master never ours, we do not give a fk whatever line they draw.
British McMahon just draw a line on the map to put all South Tibet to India, we feel so lucky he did not draw a line near Beijing, or India would have a much larger territory to inherit from this old master.
India illegally occupied South Tibet, we will take it back soon, if needed, help Nepal to get the land occupied by India back to Nepal
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what is the core of US interest? money, and make money, selling weapons to TW, good make money, send army to TW, not good, lose both American lives and money, it is the same for US every where, look at Ukraine now, where is US when Ukraine lost 20% territory and its army got defeated daily? , BBQ in the pacific on warship decks with Budlight, ,
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India's war concept stopped at WWII 2 D level, in 21st century, we directly air land in the Tezpur airport, seal all road 13 from Tawang via Bomdila to Tezpur, make Sela Tunnel only good for us to send troop down
learn from history, did the lose in 1962 due to no good tunnel? no supply? No, after PLA destroyed the whole 7th brigade, the IA defending in Tawang all just fled without a fight, they formed new defend line in from of Sela , however, China send a troop from via Bailey trail at side to cut to the back of IA at Bomdila, with this sad news, the IA in front did even fight, but all withdrawn, and with totally defeat.
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Shubham Mhatre considering its size and money spend on them Indian army is the worst in the whole world. this army have never won any war against any others with the similar size or strength, much worse than N. Korea army, Vietnam army or even Afghanistan Taiban force, they can fight US army. of course it is a loser to China PLA in both 1962 and in 2020, as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious......."
India's got about 1/3 military budget compare to China's among it, 50$ for salaries and pension, what left over for weapons, what left over for weapons is about 1/10 of China's , with imported weapon 3-5 times more expensive. that makes it only get 1/30 to 1/50 for obtain about same level weapons, and for more advanced weapon, no other countries would sell them to India, such as stealthy fighters, hypersonic missiles, attacking drones, .................that is just for 1 year, for 10 years, Indias' s real weapon/arms level is only about 1/300-1/500 of China's, most Indians would not believe it but still dreaming superpower 2020.
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Indians fellows, please, please, please, remember, use numbers, use real thing, use real things in the world today, not just what you think you feels, not use your dreams, to argue, your opinion (India will win) means nothing without real data and fact and numbers to support, nobody gives a fk about what you think, you feel, your dream, without any fact support
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the core for a country to get fast development is manufacturing, China with total $5 trillion manufacturing output in 2022, more than the US, Japan, Germany, India, Australia combined. is 12 times of India. with this it means, China products already occupied the world market, totally blocked India to repeat the path of China's success, India products has no ability of competing with China's , instead, India import more Chinese goods, give China $105 billion a year as trade surplus. also with this, China make huge trade surplus to many other countries too, that is why China has $3.4 billion foreign exchange reserves, India for all the past 75 years, only 2 years with trade surplus, rest 73 years all with trade deficit, due to nothing to sell from India beside agriculture products and some raw materials, India foreign exchange reserves mainly from Remittances of Indians overseas, with will never be able to reach China's amount from trade.
with this, also means, India will not have fast development, India , in fact, has no future, and no hope
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in 2014, manufacturer output in India was $307 billion, China was $3.1 trillion, so about 10 times, under Modi, in 2022, India manufacturer output is $418 billion, China is $5 trillion, 12 times of India's,
"Prime Minister Modi launched the Make in India programme in 2014 with great fanfare. The programme has three key objectives: 1) increasing manufacturing growth to 12-14%, 2) increasing the share of manufacturing in GDP from 16 to 25% by 2022, and 3) creating 10 crore jobs in manufacturing by 2022.
The manufacturing growth rate has averaged 6% over the last eight years, the share of manufacturing in the GDP has stagnated at 16%, and manufacturing jobs have been reduced by half."
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Like you buy a car, not matter how good it is, the value of it drops with time, however, if you buy a house, the value of it grows with time, so it not only provide you with free living place, and serves as your bank, by the end after free living you can also make money, so smart people should put money on house instead on car which lose value.
India's way is just like very s t p d person, spend $billions on weapons, which are just like cars, with value drops, even worst than car, car you can drive to enjoy, for weapons, you cannot even use them, like Rafale, just burn some expensive fuels. if India put money into R&D and education or industry, that will be like to buy a house, you make jobs, you will make more money, so simple, but they just do not understand it, but hey, it is your money, waste as much as you like, it is your country, ruin it as fast as you like
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the people of this country got some kind illness in their brains, they do not have anything to show off, they cannot make anything, they achieved nothing but so proud of themselves for nothing, also like a main anchor of wion channel, everyday she spreads hatred towards China and Pakistan, these people throw away the only good thing from this country, Buddhism, since the core of it is kindness, but the people of this country has all lost it, all they have left for them is boasting, and arrogant, rude, with no manners, ...............
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haha :)) Indians never learn any lessons, they think all the foreign factories in India is just making money for themselves and getting Indian's money, and not good for India's own industry, on the one hand, they wish all US factories move out of China to move in India, on the other hand they set up so much difficulties for the foreign company in India to make any money, especially to Chinese companies, that is why they put heavy "penalties" to Mi cellphone, Ford Auto rather spent $ 2 billion just to move out, GM closed its factory, but India government does not allow GM to sell it to the Great Wall auto. This is actually a tradition of Indian government under Congress before 1990 the whole policy made India almost bankrupted, that was why India "reformed" in 1990 to let foreign company to come in India, now India forgot all of it and trying to go back before 1990. which will surely be a failure. on the contrary to India, Bangladesh welcomed foreign companies, and now making great progress in its economy development.
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India is a country completely without any future, nor hope,
1. the country has no natural resources, but some iron ore, no oil, coal makes this country heavily polluted with 2.3 million death due to air pollution each year will get worse
2. huge poor and uneducated population, calling its young country but with youth cannot find job. with global hunger index 107, with 5.77 million malnutrition kids. Indians are getting shorter due to lack of nutrition. India with 25% more arable land than China has, but total grain yield is less than half of China's, do not know what India farmers are doing everyday to get such low yield. China will grain per capita 484 kg, India? 225 kg, for most cold countries, this amount will cause famine, due to hot weather , lucky in India , people can survive with fruits and vegetables, however, due to not planed population growth this situation will only get worse.
3. India is a country very religious, which does not mean as in a Christian country people believe in a God, Indians believe in all kinds of BS and dreams from Hinduism which is not even qualified as a religion but just a BS. For building a modern country, it needs to be based on science and technology, Science, means based on facts, but India, people mostly are based on what they believe, for them no facts are needed, as long as what they think, what they believe, that thing must be true, must be the right thing. Indians do not have a concept of logic, no concept of reasoning, how can this kind people build a country based on science? without science, there will not be a modern country but only a backwards poor one as today's India. also this country with very limited money in technology input, so any advanced tech in this country is not possible, without tech, India will not have anything made in India can be compatible in the world market so huge deficit will continue, nothing to sell but some agriculture products such as spices and some natural resources such as coal or iron ore.
4. this is a selfish nation, people under the name of "freedom" , everyone is just for one's own, they do not care about other people, with India's caste system, rich do not care about poor at all, rich enjoy this kind system so they can have cheap labor to work for them. Nobody cares about the whole country. While with global hunger index 107, huge numbers of kids with malnutrition, India is a huge exporter of beef and rice, wheat, largest producer of milk, but all for making money, not for its own people in need. With the same selfishness and greed, it is very easy to understand why there is no principle for India in its foreign policy, the whole country is only going with money. no responsibility to any of its "allies' or friends, in fact, India has none.
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from here,. I feel Indians are happy, the nature of this nation is , they do not see the reality, do not treat reality that serious, they focus on future, when they say things, they always use future tense, such as India will have this or that, India will be superpower (India superpower 2020), India will rank number 3 in GDP in 2040, ...............the list goes on and one,..........they are very happy, in their dreams, for the future, or for their next life (to be born in royal family in UK).. everyday, most of them sleep happily in their slums without AC after play with their rats.
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If it is Nehru, he would have sent warship to Maldives already, but, the current one is just a coward. Nehru in 1962, ordered Indian army "kick the Chinese out", with full support from his defense minister V. K. Krishna Menon and his army, which lead by army chief and commander of the 4 th army in front line, Lieutenant General, Brij Mohan Kaul, they were so brave, they fought, regardless the results, their heroic braveness will be remembered. Today. facing China in 2020, Modi did not even dare to mention China's name, dare not to order the army to fight, the army chief asked front line do not fire a single shot, lower the artillery barrel facing China to show India does not want to fight.
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Jaishankar is the worst FM in the whole history of republic of India, under him what India achieved in diplomacy?? make relationship with China worse got 20 Indian army killed, lost all 10 pp in Ladakh, all South Asian countries are getting closer to China, US sent warship into India EEZ and does not provide a single dose of vaccine to India, lost Russia as ally but Russia got more connection with Pakistan , he is just a joke, US cannot keep the burden of 40 million AFG, how can US afford to defend 1.4 billion India against the real superpower China?? God is far, China is just at the door step. completely lost everything in AFG but created a new enemy for India, as famous Indian export from US Fareed Zakaria said, "India does not have a foreign policy and does not have a forward looking policy that is designed to have some control the external environment to shape that environment in way to raise India's interest , India becomes a passive observer of what is happening" , India got nothing under Modi and Jaishankar.
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What China is working now is a 2 module space travel system, on the back of the first (larger) module carrying the second module , using rocket engine of the first module to send second module into near space then the first module can glide back to earth to land, the second module with integrated rocket-ramjet-rocket-ramjet engine, depend on either in space or inside atmosphere the engine can automatically adjust itself, the test has done, with this, it can send human to travel to space, and back, reach US from China for about 1 hour. and if it does not put human, but put on a nuke, then it can reach anywhere in the world. sure it is not for India, for India wood sticks just worked fine. as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious......."
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it shows India has no experience, US sends spy boat and planes daily routinely into east China sea very closely to the China's territorial water to collect information all the time, China would send jets to interrupt the spy planes from US to get too close to China space, once time in 2001, US EP-3 spy plane got near China Hainan island, China sent PLAAF jet to intercept it and collided in the air with it, China lost a jet and a pilot, US EP-3 got damaged and forced to land in Hainan island, all 24 crews got arrested, and all the info in the airplane obtained by PLA.
my point is, this will get more and more, not need to cry so much, you will get used to it, :))
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North Korea, a country with 23 million, in many ways, much better than this country of India with 1.4 billion, first , with decades of west and US sanction, this country global hunger index 97, better than India's 107 (need to point out, India got the world largest arable land, 25% more than China has, I wonder why the people are so useless to grow more crops for themselves, too lazy??) , North Korea can make better weapons, its ICBM with range 13000 km, Agni V can only go 5000 km, NK can hypersonic missile, India cannot, NK can make large military drones, India cannot, ..............................check the photos of cities in North Korea, 1000 times cleaner than India. true story
brainwashed by the west and US, India, like them, judge everything with "democracy vs dictatorship", as the correct standard, anything not fit to it, it is bad, but itself is against the principle, who gives you the right to set up the standard?? it is each country's right to choose whatever system they want to, ....what democracy got to you?? started at the same level as "dictatorship" China,now China is a light year ahead of you in all fields, and leaves your global hunger index 107. hah :) your "democracy" which you are so proud of got you nothing but let you feel good about yourselves with only an empty name and let you BS the whole day and get nothing done, you are the joke of the world.
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this has been over 20 yrs, every time, all 5 UNSC member took turns to veto it, so it appear it is China now, but actually all of them do not want another one, especially not this one, all of the 5 of them know, only needs 1 to veto at any time, so they will play this game to India forever, so looks like only 1 against it, to give India some hope, but in reality, India will never get it, unless or until UN is totally dissolved
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a little country with only 23 million people can make better missiles than this country of 1.4 billion, a tiny country got sanctions by US and west for decays can make global hunger index 97 better than this country with the most arable land on earth but got its global hunger index 107, this country is so useless and so amazing that they do not feel any shame of their incapability.
Blood is always thicker than water, some time in the future, South and North Korea will get reunited again, by that time, they will have technologies from South , with cars, computers, chips, cellsphones, .TVs.. and good missiles and nuke from North to be a strong and modern country in Asia, so tell me what you have?? still nothing, will still use Samsum phones, Kia Hongdai cars, K9 guns, ..to see Korean sell T50 to all over but cannot sell a single junk Tejas to any other country .....................................
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difference is the border has been settled with Mongolia and Russia with treaties, actually China has settled border with all land neighboring countries, with 2 exception, 1, India, 2 Bhutan. not big deal with Bhutan, will be settled soon, not with India , wait, you will see, so go to learn before you open your mouth!
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Hindu, its meaning is river, refers to the area with 7 rivers in India plain, mountain areas are Kashmir, Nepal, Tibet, Bhutan, Hindus have no physical ability to fight mountain people, that is why even today Indian army hire 5000 from Nepal. in well documented history written 1600 yrs ago, an envoy of China, with name Wang Xuance, borrowed 7000 Nepali army and 2500 Tibetan army totally defeated India, and captured its king , sent him to the emperor of Tang of China, and the emperor ordered to make a stone statue showing the king kneel down in front of China emperor.
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to someone from "Europe" haha :))
you are full of BS, go to learn before you open your big fking mouth, 1. in 1962, India invaded China first, 2. In 2017, India sent army into China's Doklam first, 3, in 2020, India attacked China' s Galwan position first.
2ndly, who the fk are you? how can you represent whole Europeans ? you are just a fking nobody,
3rdly, what your Europe can do to China? Send your army to Himalaya" haha :)) so why not you just sht the fk up??
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Indians are the people, you cannot argue with them, since they have no concept of reasoning, for them, their opinions are based solely on what they think, feel, dream, or like, and they believe that is all they need. Therefore, only thing left for their adversary is to take action, as shown in 1962 and in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ..........." with the results from the action, only thing they can do is to open the same big mouth, cry. ,,,,,😂😂😂
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@leishangthemhero827 you do not know anything about nuclear weapons obviously, China's first H bomb was with 3 million tons TNT, India? does not have it, although they claim they have it, but max amount was 54 k t TNT, showed it was just a failed attempt. Secondly, India does not have any mobile nuclear missile as China's DF 26, DF 31 and DF 41, all India has is put Agni 5 on a tow cart, and can only launch it from certain fixed sites which are already targeted by China various missiles, in the first wave of war, they will be destroyed before firing, and China has multiple layers of anti ballistic missile system, from India to Beijing is 3300 km, from China to Delhi is 400 km, so if India dare to do it Delhi will be disappeared in about 5-10 min.
China has thermal nuclear warheads (if you know what that is) each one with about 300 kt TNT (if you know what means) India only has fission nuclear warheads (if you know what that means) with about 10-15 kt TNT, so each China's nuke head is about 30-20 times of India, let assume 20, western reported China has about 600 nuke warheads, India110 (assume them are true), then China has 20x600= 12000 equivalent vs 110 India has, yeah, good idea, let us play some nuke game, haha :))
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Cong in India is a group of elites represents western educated with values and ideology of the west, completely out of touch of Indian ordinary people, BJP on the other hand, using Hinduism as ideology, with ordinary Indians as their basic support, however, Hinduism has been shown in the past 1000 year, totally useless for protect India, otherwise India would not have been ruled by Muslims and colonized by British. therefore, nothing will work, neither Cong nor BJP, not one is better than the other, but just which one is worse.
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Indians like to blame others for the failures. Congress blamed BJP, BJP blamed Congress, together all Indians blame China, the fact is it is every single one of you to blame, you are a "democracy', each one of you is responsible for all success or failure, since you have no success. as for trade, bottom reason is you, as everyone of you, cannot make products that can compete in the world market, your blame game is totally useless.
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@Imran Khan ex-PM ex- RAW agent (retired) this is from India newspaper:
More than half of the Union’s total budget is made up of debt, and few investments are being made in profitable industries. More than Rs 17 lakh crore, or 45% of the budget size, was generated by borrowing out of the government’s overall budget of more than Rs 39 lakh crore. Additionally, the Centre is in the process of selling off some of its assets, like LIC, to raise Rs 75,000 crore.
ratio of india's public debt to gdp likely to scale a new high in fy21 | business standard news
This is a sign that the Center is approaching a damaging condition. We need to analyse the Sri Lankan crisis in this context. Over half of the budget of the Indian government is borrowed. The tax is not being properly collected. The centre is not increasing its investments in the industries that are productive. Additionally, the prices of fuel and kerosene have seen a considerable increase over the years, and if these keep on rising, India will soon face a food and fuel crisis like that of Sri Lanka.
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compare airplane with HSR: it shows you never know anything about HSR, for airline you need to go to the airport which is usually about 30-40 km from the city center, HSR gets right in the center of a city, so you can take taxi bus your car, subway, to go home, hotel, meetings, you have a lots to learn the things you do not know and how wonderful they are.
In HSR, people with WIFI, so they talk all the time during the hours ride, for business, for friends, for families, you really do not now anything about it,
also it much more spacious than in the air plane, you do not have it, you do not know how good it is
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1.US army had joint training for Georgian army in 2007, then in 2008, it was beaten the sht out of by Russian army,
2. US and Indian army trained Afghanistan army, then they found Taliban was coming, they just all went fled, no one wanted to fight. haha :))
3. US had joint training with Ukraine army in Jan 2022, then started in March it got beaten the sht out of by Russian army,
4. now US have joint training with Indian army, then soon it will be beaten the sht out of by PLA, haha :))
in summary, US army is a bad luck, hha :))
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too many of this kind useless organizations, quad, 2u2i, sco brics, and India in all of them, haha :) nothing else better to do. It is a shame to have India in brics, we should kick India out and replace it with Iran, it will still be brics, and talk, talk, talk , all Jainshankar can do is talk, he cannot get anything real for India, but just talk and talk, haha :) with his talk, China build more facilities along LAC and more jet drills near LAC, hah :) .........talk.
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The whole thing Modi did with the US can be divided into 3 parts
1. Pretty names, such as democracy, or strategic partnership, all these are empty words, do not mean anything.
2. real thing, this part is real, that is India pays huge amounts of money for US weapons, GE 414 is outdated, US would not use it for anything, sell it to make money, India cannot use it to make 5th gen. fighter, it is a waste of money. for the drone, $32 million each to US , sold India for $100 million each, India is just a customer, nothing to do strategic partner, US sells the same to Japan and TW, difference is the US shares the data link from the drone with them, not to India.
3. a pie in the air, this is so called, technology cooperation with US and India, including making chips, or AI or whatever, the problem for this part is, it is mainly not up to the US government, it is up to the individual company of the US , if they think they can make money, they will do that, if not they will not, India is not a good place for them to make money, in the past 5 yrs, more foreign companies moved out of India than moving in, if Ford and GM all fled, they cannot even make cars in India, who can make chips in India for making money? not even potato chips, ,
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the fact is; 1. India cannot make fighter which can match (with even any slight possibility) with its number 1 enemy China. 2. India cannot buy the fighters that can match what China has.
so the only thing left, is F15 or Rafale. I wonder why India did not ask Russia to sell Su 35, which would be better than F15. I guess India wants to please US and west . India is in a down swirl, cannot get itself out of it in this regard. it is very clear, even if AMCA out now, it will already a junk compare to J20 which has been tested, upgraded, improved, and doing daily military excises for over 10 years. India cannot make jet engine, cannot make AESA radar, cannot make good air to air missile. all of these will not get improved in any shorter time than 10 years, but that time 6th gen fighter will come out both China and US. The 6th gen fighter will be an AI flying control center for all kinds of attacking drones, which US and China , are in lead in both AI and attacking drone, not India, India cannot make any attacking drones, but China has exported hundreds of them to other countries. AI in India? guess not even in their dreams.
either buying or making advance jet in India is just wasting money, and there is no way out of this down swirl, however, it is your money, waste it as much as you like and for the time you can afford.
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PR China under CCP founded by Mao, totally different from China before 1949, under GMT (now in TW), PR China never lost any war since its founding in 1949, do not use Nanking in 1930s to judge PRChina.
1. 1950 Korean war, took PLA only 3 months to kick all US army out of North Korea
2. 1962, completely wipe out entire India army, took 30000 sq km Aksai chin back to China
3. 1967, not a real war, but a border skirmish, with each side only shot each other with artillery, no real attack therefore, no win or lost,
4. 1969, fight with Soviet Union for an island, today, this island is still in China, and signed treaty with Russia in 1999.
5. 1972, fight South Vietnam sunk multiple Vietnam warships and occupied whole Parcel Islands in SCS.
6. 1979, fight Vietnam, till 1989, took back whole territory, and after that signed treaty with Vietnam to have all the territory in China
7. 1984, fight Vietnam, in 314 sea battle and win to occupy the island in SCS
8. 1987, fight India, and won later India PM visited China seek peace
9. 2020, Galwan, no need to say, see photo, as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ..........."
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@mausenpai215 China had it first flight in 2011, it has been over 10 years, it was tested all the time and with practice against all kinds of fighters in China, including what you have, Su-30 , we know how stealthy it is, you do not, as long as it more stealthy than Rafale, the difference will make it superiority to Rafale, example, assume J20 is not that stealthy as F22, Rafae can find F22 only at 20 km range with its radar, but can find less stealthy J20 at 40 km range, however, J20 can find Rafale over 170 km range, since with 6 missiles, Rafale RCS is 10 sq m. and at 100 km launch PL 15 (145 km range), and fly away, Rafale will be shot down. J20 will be safe.
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the mess now in India reflect the mess in the mind of all Indians, they know the current system and ideology are not working, but they do not know what political system or ideology would work for India, so there are all kinds of "if"s, "if India did this, India would be a superpower now" "if India chose that one as PM, India would be a developed country", ,,,,,,,,,,, they just do not look around for reality of the world, never think based on facts but always on dreams, and "if's
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@letsdoit121
Let me also help you understand your own economy, as it seems many of you are unaware. In recent years, India’s so-called "fastest growth" under the Modi government has largely been fueled by borrowing money to build infrastructure. A significant portion of this borrowing came from the AIIB (a bank set up for China's Belt and Road Initiative). When you borrow money, you have to pay interest, and now India finds itself in a "debt trap."
While infrastructure is important for a country, it doesn't generate quick returns, especially when those returns are less than the interest payments. This year, India needs to pay $131 billion in interest, which is more than 22% of the government's total budget of $575 billion. Next year, the interest payments will increase by 11-12%. And now you want more money for defense? Well, there isn't any left for that.India is on the edge of total bankruptcy, still dreaming to be a superpower, Harvard Business Review reported "Less than half of the 950 million working-age population is actually employed""Bleak as this statistic is, the reality is worse. According to the Periodic Labor Force Survey, some half of all those workers are self-employed, a category that includes “unpaid helpers in family enterprises,”___Harvard Business review, by Bhaskar Chakravorti July 19, 2024,
Due to the lack of jobs in India it can negatively impact its economic growth rate:
Lower purchasing power: When there are fewer jobs, people have less money to spend, which can lead to a decrease in consumer demand.
Reduced productivity: Unemployment can make it harder for the economy to be productive.
Increased government burden: Unemployment can increase the amount of money the government needs to spend.
Limited investment and consumption: Unemployment can make it harder for people to invest and consume, which can slow economic growth.
Poverty and income inequality: Unemployment can make poverty and income inequality worse.
Social unrest: A high unemployment rate can lead to social unrest.
According to McKinsey, if India doesn't improve its employment rates, it might not be able to achieve its goal of 7–8% annual GDP growth. This could also delay India's plans to become the world's third-largest economy by 2030.
No jobs, means no income, no income means no consumption, 90% of rural spend only $64 per month, and 10% spend $21 a month.
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it was before a dream job for a life time, now they lost the chance and hope. next 4 years may have war with China, with this kind risk, no pension for later,
India always boast their professional army and laugh at China army, now they do the same as China army, so why become an amateur army?
it shows, India BJP does not know how to run a country, for the past 1000 years, India ruled by all kinds of foreign rulers and colonizers, only after 1947, Indian ruled by a bunch of foreign educated elite run India with western ideas and measures, did not work very well, then only in less than 10 run by BJP, unlike Congress, BJP trying to use Hinduism to run the country, well, it is a mess
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Xi never had a presidential aircraft, when Xi travels , he just rented a passenger plane from Air China, unlike Modi with his $1.1 billion Dreamliner Boeing 777 named India Air One . Xi saved all the money for lift Chinese farmers from poverty line, while Modi does not care India with global huger index 107, with 5.7 million malnutrition kids and 200 million under absolute poverty line, in fact, UN set standard, the country with average income under $2200 per capital is poor, India is at $2085, even lower than Bangladesh,
Modi should sell his Air India one and take an ox cart to travel to save money for 5.7 million malnutrition kids in India
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compare to Congress, BJP is worse
All of the Indian Army's victories occurred under the Congress party's leadership, not the BJP's. These victories include reclaiming Goa in 1962, securing Bangladesh's independence in 1971, and the success in the Kargil War in 1999.
In contrast, the BJP's actions have been less successful. For instance, in 2017 during the Doklam standoff, the army withdrew following China's final warning. Today, the Chinese PLA remains stationed in Doklam, transforming it into a fortified military base and constructing multiple villages in the area.
In 2019 Barakot air strike totally failed, with no target destroyed but with a mig 21 shot down, with its pilot invited to taste Fantastic tea, and lost a helicopter with total 9 on board, completely a disaster for IAF.
Furthermore, in May 2020, 72 Indian soldiers were wounded by PLA forces and hospitalized at Pangong Lake. Then, on June 15-16, 20 soldiers were killed, and 200 others were captured by the PLA. This information was reported in The Express Tribune article dated October 10th, 2021, titled "Indians furious..."
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@debojitdas9787 90% of Indians live at $2 a day, it is very easy to calculate, reason is 10% of top Indians own 77% of India wealth (use the data from G..gle, with an Indian as its CEO), , wealthy is difficult to calculate so use GDP, assume India GDP is $4 trillion (actually not that much) , since 77% for the top 10%, rest of 90% shares rest of 23%, which is $ 920 billion, divided by 1.26 billion, that is $750 a year, or $2 a day (actually $1.97 a day)
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what Indians do not know, we have 3 ultra long range AESA radar to cover every corner of India, the 1st radar located on in Tibet on the top of Himalaya, cover all NE states and east section of India, 2nd on top of Karakoram mountain covers all north of India territory including Mumbai and Delhi and central region, Another one in Qwadar to for Pakistan to cover all India direction in the north west region, India has 0, haha :) go to learn what is it.
so as soon as any Agni launch, these radars will detect it and calculate the trajectory, and shoot it down with our anti ballistic missile, at the same time, launch our nuclear missiles in XJ, in 10 min, there is no country in the world named India any more.
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India is a country would bully all its neighbors if it can, sent army into Doklam without even talk first in 2017, in 2015 cut off all supplies to Nepal just to influence Nepal's election, air attacked Pakistan in 2019, only got the pilot captured to taste fantastic tea, Mig 21 shot down, in 2020 beaten the sht out by PLA in Galwan, and asked Sri Lanka not to allow China ship to dock in Hanbantota port, Sri Lanka just did not give a fk whatever India asked, do you know a new big news? China has signed a treaty with Djibouti to build a space rocket launching site in Djibouti, so that will be a new air and navy base for China on the other side of Indian Ocean to make the pearl chain surrounding India stronger.
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Jaishankar is the worst FM in the whole history of republic of India, under him what India achieved in diplomacy?? make relationship with China worse got 20 Indian army killed, lost all 10 pp in Ladakh, all South Asian countries are getting closer to China, US sent warship into India EEZ and does not provide a single dose of vaccine to India, lost Russia as ally but Russia got more connection with Pakistan , he is just a joke, US cannot keep the burden of 40 million AFG, how can US afford to defend 1.4 billion India against the real superpower China?? God is far, China is just at the door step. completely lost everything in AFG but created a new enemy for India,
as famous Indian expert from US Fareed Zakaria said, "India does not have a foreign policy and does not have a forward looking policy that is designed to have some control the external environment to shape that environment in way to raise India's interest , India becomes a passive observer of what is happening" , India got nothing under Modi and Jaishankar.
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Human to survival, need first to have food, clothing, housing, and means of travel. therefore, the production of all the material for human life is the most essential, that is, material production. this is the most basic for all other human activities, such as religion, culture, law, art...........which are all based on first you can survival with the basic material production, the advanced nation can make things faster, cheaper, better, therefore they can have time for other activities, .......perfecting law, create art, ..........send people into space...............landed people on the moon. backward nation cannot. since they cannot produce things efficiently (which needs industrialization and high tech), they can have barely food to feed their people. India got thing upside down, they did not put material production to the first, but put ideology first, enjoy their "freedom" which let them BS whole day and get nothing produced
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Indians fellows, please, please, please, remember, use numbers, use real thing, use real things in the world today, not just what you think you feels, not use your dreams, to argue, your opinion (India will win) means nothing without real data and fact and numbers to support, nobody gives a fk about what you think, you feel, your dream, without any fact support.
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@darkknight2414 in a few years, you will find 2 China aircraft carrier attacking groups in Indian ocean, 1 near Gulf of Persian, and 1 in Malacca strait,
each group with 1X 80000 tons aircraft carrier, , 2X13000 tons type 055 destroyers (you have 0 this class, China now has 8) , and 4X7000 tons type 052D (total you have 3, China has 26) and some type 054A , plus some submarines, in war all your navy warships will be in the bottom of the ocean within 2 wks,
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Modi's Hinduism will not work for India, Modi's capitalism will not work either, t would not work in the US or UK how can it work in India? Adani had $8 billion in 2014, now he has $137 billion, but Indian average income is still $2500. Hinduism + capitalism = dead end.
capitalists only care about money, not the country, Modi thought if he let them make huge amount of money they would build more factories and hire more Indians to work however, the fact is not so, US capitalist just freely moved out to China to make money for themselves, not for US, Ambanis and Adanis will do the same, just they do not have a good place to go yet. they will jump out of India at the first opportunity if money calls from outside India.
because Modi is working for them, not for the majority of Indians, tell me, did Ambani or Adani give you a rupee?? Why are you so proud of them?? why is your India hunger index 107, even with Ambani and Adani the richest in Asia?? Is the huge wealth gap between rich and poor a good thing for India??
that is exactly my point, this kind capitalism will not work, not only in India it will not work anywhere in the world in the long run, and cannot compete with other countries, you have the richest Ambani and Adani in Asia, but you do not have any products (spices not counted) in the world market.
Due to Modi only working for Ambanis and Adanis and Tata and sons, in the name of protecting Indian industry , and with very strict rules to foreign companies, foreign companies are leaving, such as GM motor, Ford motor, Musk won't even set up a factory in India despite India's repeated invitation. foreign direct investment in Asia all got rapid growth, only in India dropped 30%. "FDI flows to India drop 30% in 2021: UNCTAD
let's see how Ambanis contributed to India "Prime Minister Modi launched the Make in India programme in 2014 with great fanfare. The programme has three key objectives: 1) increasing manufacturing growth to 12-14%, 2) increasing the share of manufacturing in GDP from 16 to 25% by 2022, and 3) creating 10 crore jobs in manufacturing by 2022.
The manufacturing growth rate has averaged 6% over the last eight years, the share of manufacturing in the GDP has stagnated at 16%, and manufacturing jobs have been reduced by half."
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Indians invented Chess and very proud of it, kill the queen or king to win, China invented "GO" thousand years ago, which is control the key points to defeat the enemy, obviously, China is a master of it. Such as China controls all the important points surrounding India. Maldives is key point, such as, set navy base in Djibouti to control outlet from the red sea, navy base in Gwadar to control outlet from Persian gulf, with these 2 points, the whole route of India oil import is blocked, in war, not single drop oil can be shipped into India, at border in the east all sealed by PLA, in its south east, China now work with Myanmar. to the north, with China BRI with all 5 central Asian countries, and treaty with Iran, also sealed India. now another point is at Maldives.
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@kumarakshat1300 hah:)) truth hurts, but fact is fact, you have no facts to support,
the way for India's development is not to make jet engine, but to make shoes, shirts, like what Bangladesh is doing, and to make good cell phones which can compete in the world, do small things, make good rifles, accumulate experience on repairing jet engines and radars, and learn during the process, not to make advanced jet, it is totally a wrong way, but I know you (your country, your nation) would not go this way, it is your nature, so that is why you have no hope and no future.
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@shashankvishwakarma4421
a decade?? why a decade??
you got in dependence in 1947, why you waited till 1991??
We got founded in 1949, after that China was blocked and sanctioned by westerns and US and later started in 1964 by Soviet Union, no one blocked you at the time, what you waited for? for China? haha :)) Thank you, you were so kind??haha :))
you were decade late fine.
go check
China 1980-89, growth rate 9.7%
India, same time 5.6%
China, 90-99 9.9%
India, 5.0%
go check rest,
from 1980-2010, China GDP increased 31.8 time,
for India, decade later, 1990-2020, India GDP increase 8.5 times,
From 1990 to 2020 China GDP increased 45 times
India
your decade late but grow very slow, how can you catch up??
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Indians do not have any concept of modern war, without any detailed plan and sloppy in executing the attack, they feel if they tried so called "smart bomb" in their excises would be enough in the real battle after enemy detected their purpose already. and IAF tried to show off in imitating USAF as they saw in movies and TV, and due their big mouth, they claimed they would do a "surgical strike to Pakistan" a few days before the action, haha :)) and gave PAF enough time to get ready, however, to make it a surprise, they took off Su-30 1000 km away trying to hide the action, but they forgot to turn off the transponder in the AWACS, so PAF knew everything about the attacking fleets were all the time. haah :))
it is totally a joke of IAF, haha :)) with such a huge action, only killed a few pine trees and an innocent crow. RIP.
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Korean people are smart people, look your cars, Hondai, Kia, your phones, your TV, your monitor, no matter south or north, they are the same nation, blood is always thicker than water, T 50 sold to many countries, Tejas no others want, K 9 licensed to produce in India, .... in future, they will be reunited, like Germany, Korea has bright future, you have none.
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God did not make you for any kind power, so forget it, you are not for it. live a peaceful life, make your country clean, get rid of slums, put all money into people's lives, and kids, do not try to be a boss of a region or in the world, forget about superpower................ then everything will be much better, you are what you are, do not pretend to be someone you are not, you are not made for that. no worry about security, no one in the world wants to bear responsibility for feeding 1.4 billion hungry people.
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China uses Marxism as the core of its base for the ideology, the core of Marxism is "Seek Truth from Facts", so we make policies all need to be based facts, on real number real data, not just based on what we believe. India is different since in India, "fact" is not important, what other people, such as west and US said, it important, so they have all the political system and ideology from west, and do not see they do not work for India at all.
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India, with the name as freedom of speech, so ordinary Indians are all very brave, they shout free Tibet, Tibet is not China, ............., since they know they do not need to bear any responsibility as whatever they BS about, of course we all know this, so we do not give a fk whatever BS they have, the one bear the responsibility and consequences is GOI, which recognize Tibet is just a part of the People's Republic of China, so guys, keep BS, hah :) although it is totally useless, but hey, it is fun.
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Please do not, you are wasting your talent, you should go to learn more useful things instead wasting it,
read Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ..........." , the interesting of the photos are, Indian army must have known that IA had about 200 more soldiers got captured by PLA from the date of June 16th 2020, the date of Galwan attack from India army called "Operation of Snow Leopard", however, they did not tell Indian public (go check India media at the time, the army did not mention anything about it, China did not either, and Indians all say that China hide the number of being killed, they do not appreciate that China did not show how many IA they captured either, to save you guys some face, but seems you do not deserve) , until a year later, in late of 2021, when India media claimed they have killed 33, 40, 43, 45, ............105 ........(or whatever number) of PLA, only after that, PLA release some photos, to show 200 or more of the most almighty army in universe were captured by no war experience, crying one child prince, PLA with only wood sticks, haha :))
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advanced air to air missile all with active radar meaning, as long as you shoot it to the direction of the enemy jets, in certain distance the radar in the missile can detect the enemy jet and track it locked on it and shoot it down, however, no matter what, the radar on missile is much smaller and much less powerful than the radar in the jet, if jet radar cannot lock the enemy stealthy fighter, then it is impossible for the missile to lock on the enemy jet, so enemy stealthy fighter's missile radar will not have problem to lock on Rafale, however, no matter how wonderful Meteor missile is, if Rafale cannot detect enemy stealthy fighter, impossible for Meteor missile to lock on either, so it will be totally useless.
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how typical, this country does not know how to respect other peoples choice, just as what happened in 2015 Nepal election, since it did not fit what India wanted, so India sanctioned Nepal by cutting of essential supplies to Nepal, then China immediately provided Nepal with help. India, as a habit, like a street gangster, bully its neighboring countries, this kind behavior push the other countries getting closer to China, since this country does not know it is just a poor backward developing country, but it always wants to show off as a super power
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Indians should not cry if they know some history of UN, in 1950, UN made a resolution to form army consists of 16 countries (with India in it with a medical team) force lead by US army with WWII hero, the liberator of Philippines and occupier of Japan, 5 star Gen. MacArthur as commander in Chief to fight North Korean army, so Korean war started under UN, China at the time, just did not give a fk about UN or not UN, in late October 1950, China sent PLA into Korea to fight this so called UN force, in 3 month time, in Jan 1951, PLA kicked all UN force out of North Korea. So do not cry, why you worry China block or not? if you really want to fight those India believes the so called "terrorists" , why not learn from China? just send your almighty, always won, never defeated, never captured, never shotdown, never invited to have fantastic tea army to fight them? haha :))
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Nehru knew before the war that both South Tibet and Aksai chin are Chinese territory but he kept pushing his "east forward" policy anyway, with the wish that China would not care, and then once made it a reality China would have to accept it, since India did this to Goa and worked. He ordered his almighty army generals "Kick the Chinese out!" and then, he left to go abroad to show off as the leader of non-alliance, then the sad news went to him, Indian army got total smashed by PLA in both eastern and western sectors, with wet in his pants, he wrote letter to US President Kennedy with tears begged US help. The defeat totally made him collapsed, in just a few years, this arrogant, bluffy, full of vanity Indian PM gone, left a legacy for current Indians, today, Modi is trying to follow Nehru's path, he will get same humiliation and misery and defeat and destruction as his failure predecessor.
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do you know what India will face the next real war with China, not J20 or J10, not missiles, but first wave of over 10000 attacking drones operated by real PLAAF pilots towards all your border military airports, radar station, anti air missiles sites , and your S400 positions, it is fine for your S400 to launch anti missiles to them, with $2 million each pc of your anti missile, how many do you have?? you do not have any attacking drones, haha :)
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here is a wrong perception for the light tank in East Ladakh, Indians do not check carefully, in fact, T 15 light tank is not in the East Ladakh, but in South Tibet area, near Dawang, in Ladakh area, China has T99A, which is heavy tank, cannot be destroyed by T90, let alone Zorawar. the reason is, unlike in India side, east Ladakh is very flat on China side, T99A heavy tank can be directly transported on trucks via highway 219, get into the bank of Pangong Tzo, then via bridges across the bridges built on Pangong Tzo, directly get to the front of Chushul.
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Indians are strange people, they are so proud of Ambanis and Adanis, admire how rich they are, and they know they will not get a rupee from them. At the same time, most of them live in slums without AC and play with rats for fun and with global hunger index 107. The wish that the rich will provide jobs for the people is a dream, no base on it. Once the rich have money they would simply go to other countries to make more money, for them the core is making money, their country of origin , especially the people of their country is nothing to them. They do not care about them at al, all they care about is money. It is the same all over the world, that is the way capitalism works.
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the core of India's trouble is what Indians spiritual essential, Hinduism, Hinduism cannot even be qualified as a religion but just a mixture of living style, fair tales, wishful thinking and dreams, it never worked in the history of India or India would not have been ruled and colonized for the entire 1000 yrs, it is not working now, as India GDP remains at 2.7% just the same as British left so no change for the past 75 years. , and therefore can predict, it will never work in future. The worse is BJP is trying to push it into its extreme form, Hindutiva, it will get India into deeper trouble, as it showing now.
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Vietnam CP head just visited China and awarded friendship medal, Pakistan PM visited China, German state head will come soon, Tanzania president visited China and promoted the relationship to China to strategic partners, , ...................under the gem of India, Jaishankar (read it as trash of India), India got more isolated everyday, .....no state head of any other country bother to visit India, even Indian US vice president Harris does not bother to visit her mother's land, haha :))
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for just last few days after CCP 20th congress,,,, Vietnam CP head just visited China and awarded friendship medal, Pakistan PM visited China, Tanzania president visited China and promoted the relationship to China to strategic partners, , ........Germany Chancellor Olaf Scholz holds talks with Xi Jinping...........under the gem of India, Jaishankar (read it as trash of India), India got more isolated everyday, .....no state head of any other country bother to visit India, even Indian US vice president Harris does not bother to visit her mother's land, haha :))
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Agricultural products, by their very nature, typically have low market value yet are essential for human sustenance. In industrialized countries like the US, where there is ample farmland and a relatively small population, agricultural output is vast and efficient. This leads to a significant surplus in supply and drives down international market prices for these products. Additionally, farmers in these countries often receive government subsidies, further lowering their costs.
As a result, it is exceedingly challenging for developing countries with large populations to compete in the global market. For instance, in India, the market price of rice is approximately 250 rupees per kilogram. Even if a farmer's family manages to sell one ton, the total revenue would only amount to 250,000 rupees, equivalent to $3,000 annually or $250 per month (actually much lower since there are cost for seeds, fertilizer and pesticide and fuels for machines) . Considering that the average landholding per farmer in India is a mere 0.39 hectares and the average grain yield per hectare is 2100 kilograms, that leaves 0.39*2100= 819 kg for a farmer, even he sells them all, that is just 819*250= 204750, or $2467 a year, or $205 a month, the survival of these farmers becomes a pressing concern.
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the key is Indians have no talent nor money to make things themselves. it is the fate, with more high tech involved in the weapons, India will get farther lag behind, with a country ' GDP only 1/6 of China, and R&D budget is on 0.7% of its GDP, compare to China's 2.2%, the difference in 6x2.2/0.7=18.5 each year, for 10 years, that is 185 times. the number 1 university in India ranked behind 500 in the world, compare to China, China's scientific papers has over taken US as the number 1 in the world, same as patents. India is country totally has no hope, no future
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The title Dalai Lama is a combination of Mongolian and Tibetan words:
Dalai (ᠳᠠᠯᠠᠢ in Mongolian) – This means "ocean", symbolizing vast wisdom and compassion.
Lama (བླ་མ་ in Tibetan) – This means "guru" or "spiritual teacher", referring to a high-ranking Buddhist master.
so he is nothing holy, only a title for someone consider with wisdom, like Buddha, who is not a god, but a human with some knowledge.
There were thousands of lamas in old Tibet, why Dalai Lama with the power for control Tibet? the reason is his power was authorized by Chinese emperor at the time, without China central government (before it was the emperor, now it is central government of China) , he was just another lama, Dalai lama was not a general of Tibetan army, he did not conquer Tibet, today is the same, without authorization of China central government, no Dalai Lama will be legitimate in any political sense.
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with this Indians think India can make military airplanes in India? to make in India? well, think again, such as Mig 21, ,it was licensed from Soviet Union, made in India, after 50 years, can India make jets? Tejas was designed by French, cannot sell a single one to other country, Su 30 MKI made in India the same way, till today, India still needs to import 1500 parts and raw materials from Russia and cost is more expensive than directly buy Su-30 from Russia............it will be the same for C295, when India can really make it, it will be out of date already, (it is now already) compare China's Y-8 made in 1981 over 40 yrs which can carry 20 tons, vs C295 with 9.5 tons,
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Like you buy a car, not matter how good it is, the value of it drops with time, however, if you buy a house, the value of it grows with time, so it not only provide you with free living place, and serves as your bank, by the end after free living you can also make money, so smart people should put money on house instead on car which lose value.
India's way is just like very s t p d person, spend $billions on weapons, which are just like cars, with value drops, even worst than car, car you can drive to enjoy, for weapons, you cannot even use them, like Rafale, just burn some expensive fuels. if India put money into R&D and education or industry, that will be like to buy a house, you make jobs, you will make more money, so simple, but they just do not understand it, but hey, it is your money, waste as much as you like, it is your country, ruin it as fast as you like
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Indians do not understand, do not listen to the talking which is to fool you guys only, follow the money, that is where the real thing is, India on talk, against the war in Ukraine, but track the money, India keeps sending money to Russia by buying Russian oil, quad? again, check the money, India keep record high importing from China to send money to China, thank you, you fo..............ls haha :))
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it is not the congress, it is not the BJP, it is not the law, it is not the system, it is the people, and each every one of them, they chose congress, they chose BJP, they set up their laws, they got the system, the government did not make this country a rape capital of the world, they did themselves, with this, this country has no hope, no future.
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Democrats like to have larger war, Republicans like smaller war, WWII, R, Dem, Korean war, Truman, Dem, Vietnam war, Kennedy and Johnson, Dem, even Clinton Dem, bombed Chinese embassy In Serbia,,,,,,,,, on the on the hand, Bush, Rep, Iraq. so this time, a big war, let us wait and see. Interestingly the tough Guy Trump, Rep. he actually does not to have war, one US jet already taken off to bomb Iran, just 10 min get into the action, Trump called them back.
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@satyajitsarkar9469 check the record. for 20 yrs, India said numerous times that many many many ma..............ny countries interested, so far, only sold to Philliys with total $300 million, half of it sent to Russia, only left $150 million to India, we assume it all profit, with 0 cost, what $150 million can do? Rafale cost $250 million each for India, so with $150 million, India can buy a pair wings and a tail for Rafale,
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@littlebirdie4333 India as a nation (Hindus) has never been a nation shown good at fighting and from thousands of years of survival (they do not have a history, but only survived) , they seldom had any hero in the past. for thousands for years, this nation was conquered by all kinds of foreign intruders, Persians, Turks, Mongules, .....British, you name it, Hindu, beside the BS Hinduism which cannot even be qualified as a real religion but all fairy tales, day dreams. .......has no history, their so called history are actually those intruders who founded their rule in this piece of land we call India today, where no resistance, and not change for the intruders for thousands of years. today it remains the same, this nation has never been able to show they can fight a real war against an enemy with the similar size and strength. Not like Korea, Afghanistan, or Vietnam. It is the nature of this nation, all they have is a big boasting mouth, nothing else.
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due to the hot weather, the people of this country never have a "cool head", they live in kind of dizzz dreams whole day, they think they can make everything just as if they want to. but at the same time, they do not do serious research on it , the total R&D is always 0.6-0.7% of GDP, compare to all above 2.1 % of China and US, and they have GDP 6-7 times higher, and their best university is ranked after 500 in the world, but still think they can make best of everything in the world, the results are always waste of money, but they will always think the next one will be the best, and this cycle goes on and on, haha, good luck, it is just fun to watch them doing it,
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you do not know China at all, go to learn some history, China would let you have some fun, then to retaliate, so not feel happy too early, who laughs the last, laughs the best. In 1962, it was the same, Indian army took some territory inside China, Nehru just waved his arms and ordered Indian army "go, kick the Chinese out", then he just left to enjoy himself in Sri Lanka, then ??? haha :) go to learn what happened, 4000 Indian soldiers captured, including 7th Brigadier BG John Dalvi, all in POW camps in Tibet, do you know how many PLA India captured? guess? let me help : 0
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China excavated Chinese in July 2021, India blindly trusted US to believe AFG government army can hold at least 90 days, that is why, haha :))
In July 10 and 11, India used US made C17 transporters to send 2 ships of 80 tons of 120 mm artillery shells to AFG governmet, well, did not help much, all these ammunition now in Taliban's hands and will be used back for India, thank you :)
the C17 can hold 640 people (as shown in US fled from Kabul showed), so on the way back to India, all Indians could have been back with it.
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soft power is based on hard power, people around the world admire countries of strong, rich, clean, with high level of education, you have none of those, so you do not have any soft power.
1. you are very weak, both militarily and economically, you cannot make anything, all you weapons need to get imported.
2. you are very poor, with average income only $2250 a year compare to China $12500 a year, your global hunger index 107, worse than all your neighboring countries, and worse than North Korea.
3. your streets may be the dirtiest in the world, with heavy pollution problems.
4. your best university is ranked 501 in the world,
you have nothing, you have no hard power, you have no soft power, all you have is a big mouth and day dreaming.
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@@Hello-zj4xm The whole thing can be divided into 3 parts
1. Pretty names, such as democracy, or strategic partnership, all these are empty words, do not mean anything.
2. real thing, this part is real, that is India pays huge amounts of money for US weapons, GE 414 is outdated, US would not use it for anything, sell it to make money, India cannot use it to make 5th gen. fighter, it is a waste of money. for the drone, $32 million each to US , sold India for $100 million each, India is just a customer, nothing to do strategic partner, US sells the same to Japan and TW, difference is the US shares the data link from the drone with them, not to India.
3. a pie in the air, this is so called, technology cooperation with US and India, including making chips, or AI or whatever, the problem for this part is, it is mainly not up to the US government, it is up to the individual company of the US , if they think they can make money, they will do that, if not they will not, India is not a good place for them to make money, in the past 5 yrs, more foreign companies moved out of India than moving in, if Ford and GM all fled, they cannot even make cars in India, who can make chips in India for making money? not even potato chips, ,
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@@Hello-zj4xm the core for a country to get fast development is manufacturing, China with total $5 trillion manufacturing output in 2022, more than the US, Japan, Germany, India, Australia combined. is 12 times of India. with this it means, China products already occupied the world market, totally blocked India to repeat the path of China's success, India products has no ability of competing with China's , instead, India import more Chinese goods, give China $105 billion a year as trade surplus. also with this, China make huge trade surplus to many other countries too, that is why China has $3.4 billion foreign exchange reserves, India for all the past 75 years, only 2 years with trade surplus, rest 73 years all with trade deficit, due to nothing to sell from India beside agriculture products and some raw materials, India foreign exchange reserves mainly from Remittances of Indians overseas, with will never be able to reach China's amount from trade.
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@@Hello-zj4xm
PR China under CCP founded by Mao, totally different from China before 1949, under GMT (now in TW), PR China never lost any war since its founding in 1949, do not use Nanking in 1930s to judge PRChina.
1. 1950 Korean war, took PLA only 3 months to kick all US army out of North Korea
2. 1962, completely wipe out entire India army, took 30000 sq km Aksai chin back to China
3. 1967, not a real war, but a border skirmish, with each side only shot each other with artillery, no real attack therefore, no win or lost,
4. 1969, fight with Soviet Union for an island, today, this island is still in China, and signed treaty with Russia in 1999.
5. 1972, fight South Vietnam sunk multiple Vietnam warships and occupied whole Parcel Islands in SCS.
6. 1979, fight Vietnam, till 1989, took back whole territory, and after that signed treaty with Vietnam to have all the territory in China
7. 1984, fight Vietnam, in 314 sea battle and win to occupy the island in SCS
8. 1987, fight India, and won later India PM visited China seek peace
9. 2020, Galwan, no need to say, see photo, as shown in Oct 10th 2021, The Express Tribune, with title "Indians furious. ..........."
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total AC, China 3, total weight 65000 x 2 + 85000 = 215000 tons, India, 2, 45000 x 2 = 90000 tons
13000 tons destroyer China, 8, India 0
7000 tons destroyer China, 26, India 3
Nuclear submarine, China 18, India 1
amphibians attacking ships . 40,000 tons, China 6, India 0
submarine, China 86, India , 13,
need to more???
when war happened in Indian ocean, within 2 weeks, all IN fleet will all be setting quietly on the bottom of Indian Ocean.
using numbers, data, tonnages to compare, nobody gives a fk about your BS opinions.
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if you check India media report, you will find, there is almost not any good news about India itself, all things, like jet crashed, rupee dropped, India foreign exchange reduced.India made medicine killed 66 kids in other country, US is helping Pakistan, and blocking Indian's visa, .............good things is to show how powerful other countries are. haha :) even if there is some kind things that consider good, that would be, Modi visited a temple, and India has another giant plan (read it as dream, which will never be realized), or another country showed "interest" about junk Tejas which they will never buy :))))
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Russia and China are all labeled as "dictatorship", of course, China ignored US sanction order, we do not care what US says, however, India? claimed the largest democracy in the world, keep sending money to a 'dictator" to support the war against anther "democracy", it shows, India never cares about democracy or not, only cares about money. for money it can sell anything, including itself
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