Comments by "Thetequilashooter1" (@Thetequilashooter1) on "" video.
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I kept up on these exercises very closely, and I don’t believe that the F-22s had drop tanks. This was a very heavily talked about subject in various defense forums. However, the Eurofighters did fly clean, which is also unrealistic. In a combat configuration the F-22 would have a big advantage at both BVR and WVR. The F-22 pilots also had a different recollection of what happened then the British pilots, and the F-22s also were handicapped by having to fly with the Luneburg Lens, which is a radar reflector designed to increase its RCS.
You should note that there were also exercises in UAE where some say the Rafale got a kill on the F-22. That was not the case, either. Despite there being a video here on YouTube showing the Rafale in a good position, he only says “Fox” meaning missile shot, and never follows with “Splash” meaning kill. This is actually common because it’s difficult to get a lock onto the F-22, even in visual range. According to French publications, and a F-22 pilot who participated in the exercises, the Raptor came out undefeated. The F-22 pilot can be seen here on YouTube in the video titled, F-22 Undefeated at Al Dhafa. The Eurofighters didn’t fare so well in the exercises and lost fairly handedly against the Rafales.
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@MultiVeeta Here are comments from the French about the exercises verifying they never got a kill on the F-22: Air Forces Monthly April 2010 Page 40, "Justifiably Proud!" AFM: You apparently said 'the Rafale rubbed F-22 - the most modern fighter of the USAF. During six encounters the F-22 hit its goal only once'. The 27th FS doesn't remember the engagements that way and say the F-22 scored several victories against Rafale. Did you offer DACT to the Raptors and did they decline? LCL G: I did not say we 'rubbed them', I said that there was only one shot claimed (ie a simulated kill) for the six that were set-up. I read in a recent issue of Air et Cosmos that it was two. As far as I am concerned, one or two shots of six Basic Fighter Manoeuvres (BFM) encounters is a victory for the F-22 but not an overwhelming one. Not like the one we claimed against the Typhoons after combat in Solenzara, Corsica during September (9 set-up: 8 to 1 for the Rafale*). The other set-ups versus F-22s were terminated for combat deck, an un-decisive situation or lack of fuel. We never shot them down, but we hope to do so soon since we are quite good opposition for them, and it is in the pilot's spirit not to give up! Like almost every nation, we offered Beyond Visual Range DACT, of course, but the F-22 was only authorized to do BFM 1v1 Within Visual Range (WVR) versus foreign countries (except the UK, with whom they did not fight even in the BFMs). I wish we could have done so, but we didn't - which bring me back to Air et Cosmos, where its information about BVR engagement with AMRAAM in stealth mode is wrong: besides the fact that we did not even fly BVR vs F-22s! F-22 was fitted with some specific device to increase their radar signature. It enabled us to have contact with them during work ups for example. But that's not the point here."
So not only did the Raptor pilot say they never got killed so did the French pilots..
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