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  27.  @sr.liam17  It's really not the type of thing they're going to advertise is it! I'm surprised there's even one company admitting to it, I would have thought all companies would set it up with subcontractors, so that they have no direct association to the monkeys & can deny even knowing it was happening. I don't know official numbers, I doubt anyone does, in reality though, I think it's reasonable to assume that any country with native monkeys suitable to do this work is going to have major problems with this, as it's just too tempting to use the monkeys in this way. I'd honestly suggest it's so effective using them that it's really not even worth attempting to stop it & they would be better off in regulating the practice & enforcing better animal welfare standards for the monkeys. If the monkeys are treated well & only work for a few hours a day, there's probably no big issue in having monkeys climb trees to get coconuts, it's only when they're being forced to work extreme hours & being tied up in a position where they'll die of strangulation if they don't stand on their back legs all night for weeks on end, just to cruelly strengthen their muscles & are being starved & beeten if they don't learn fast enough etc etc that there are problems. If they were treated as "service animals" & well monitored by regulating authorities & managed & loved & cared for, then it would probably make sense to allow poor people to work with their animals to increase their income & decrease their injury risks. Just look at how fast the monkeys are able to be up the trees & harvesting the coconuts. Humans just can't compete with that! That's why I'd be very surprised if it's not widespread - and if it's not, that's only cause people haven't thought of it & had time to implement it yet & it certainly will be within a few years
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  42.  @Kremithefrog1  It's the government's job because that's how society works! A community chooses to pay taxes in return for a group of people managing that money to build & care for society. The money is spent on things like roads, water, food & medicine & oil security, defence of the country, defence of the people via health care, police, fire services, education etc etc cause that's what society is. If you would prefer a free for all, fine, go join with a group of likeminded people, invade a country, take it over & make it mob rule, whoever has the most power & money gets to do whatever they like to other people & property. Happiness ratings of the people will plummet, life expectancy too, all conditions will. That's why no-one chooses to live without a government anymore! Some people do form their own micro-nations, secure countries tend to not feel at all threatened by them, conditional to them still paying their taxes, cause failing to do that, they do see as a threat, since others could follow & they're also required to follow the host country's primary laws, but within their own "nation" they can do what they like really. In my country, we even had one cult, not declare themselves a "micronation", as they did not want to draw attention to themselves, but they lived as if they were & even built & tested nuclear bombs on the land they'd bought. Cause they'd been keeping to themselves though, no-one actually noticed, they noticed the weird earthquake readings, just didnt' realise it was a nuke until the cult was caught in another country engaging in major terrorist activities, after which, of course the host country co-operated with the INTERNATIONAL community & enforced international laws on them (well would have, if any of them had still been in the host country)
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  44. What happened to the first upload of this? Anyway, Cool to see the cockies featured :) The other bird in the bins btw, the white & black one with a really long beak, is called a "bin chicken", or "Ibis" if you want it's technical name. No mention of humans feeding the cockies & other birds though, I do a bit & they are certainly smart! I've bought them dog smart toys to keep them amused, along with making a range of different feeder types they have to work to get the food from, such as bowls on ropes & sticks that they have to pull up or climb down to access & they often come just to play & it's also fascinating to watch them teaching the others in their flock how to use the various toys. Mine are really well behaved too, I think most that get fed by humans are, cause they learn what's expected if they're going to get a feed & what stops the feeding. i had a young one chewing my timber the other day, I told him "no" & tried to chase him off, without chasing off the others, which didn't work great for the rest of them, so top pecking order cocky dealt with it for me, flew over to where that cocky was & each time he bit on something, head cocky bit at him to tell him "no" in terms he understood & respected. They're very smart & able to adapt to expectations in a human world really well! I recommend looking up the videos of them at bubblers/drinking fountains too. In areas with bubblers & no other drinking water supplies, the cockies will sit on the bubbler & call to passing humans to turn it on for them so they can get a drink
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  62. ​ @bvegannow1936  spoken like a true inner city vegan who's never grown anything in their life & has no idea whatsoever how farming works! You need to research the damage done by feral animals & plants & pest control. When one small patch of land hosts pests, it gives them a headstart in breeding, allowing them to dominate the entire region, causing the need to use massive amounts of pesticides on ALL farms in the area & still losing most of the crop to the pests. When all farmers in an area are on the same page, pest base load is so low that there is very little pesticide use needed & very little loss of crops to any. Look at the mouse plague in Australia as an easy example of how this works. generally not a significant problem, ongoing baiting is used to keep numbers in check. Something goes wrong though & a larger than average base population manages to survive the winter. this is something that would happen at a mass scale in your proposal! 1 pair of mice produce 500 mice within 6 months. Up to 1000 mice can compfortably live on an acre of land if not controlled, so imagine if the surrounding farms start the summer not with 2 mice in the area, but instead with 1000. Within 6 months, instead of 500 mice on those farms, there are now 500,000 because ONE farmer didn't control the initial population of mice on their 1 acre of land! Nearby farmers can't just "mind your own business and leave others Alone." when the mice are not respecting the fence boundaries & are eating all their produce can they! You have no concept of just how much damage one irresponsible farmer can do & how much food loss it can cause at an industrial level! Many big corperations are actually growing crops in deserts, with irrigation now, specifically so they can avoid having neighbours with pests that infect their crops. The water costs they find are more than compensated for by teh additional yield they get, due to no neighbouring base load pests entering their crops. The desert growing is NOT sustainable & not something that should be encouraged, but it's what professionals are opting for, because of the damage being done to them by irresponsible property owners who don't control their pests & how that impacts on their neighbours!
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  117.  @boardcertifiable  meanwhile, cockies don't bother opening the door, they just eat it off - literally! My bistro blind has a cocky sized hole in it cause they wanted in. My security screen's metal, so they couldn't get get past it to eat the main front door, but they tried. Kangaroos are probably the main ones here that open doors, but not really in super urban areas, really only smaller wallabies here (except during droughts). Our animals are mostly too small to really open doors themselves, so they just demand we do it, or eat their way though the door or window or roof or whatever, who knows how they get in! Wildlife group I'm with even had a call many years ago for a drunk possum lying on a board room table on the 10th floor of an inner city office building, and just to top it all off, it did it on April fools day! Was real though, it somehow got into the building & onto that floor & into the board room where it knocked over a bottle of red wine in it's panic & since they like grapes, it then drank the wine until it was so drunk it couldn't move. Staff came in in the morning to find the office ransacked & the drunk possum that did it just lying there passed out. She was put into a nice, dark recovery cage for a couple of days & then released to bushland as close as practical to where she was found, but had to be a distance away, since there was no bushland there to release her into. No idea how she got there, or in! The snakes are common in those settings, they hitch a ride in the car engines, then get out as soon as the car stops, cause it got much hotter than they liked & they then make their way from the underground carparks into the lifts & office proper & hide in various locations, totally freaking out staff that were NOT expecting to find the 2nd or 6th most venomous snake in the world in the cupboard of their office building when they opened it to get a cup for their coffee. Suburbs are full of wildlife corridors to make sure the wildlife can free roam everywhere, but the office buildings don't back onto bushland like suburban houses & apartments do
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  169. ​ @chihirostargazer6573  it's an instinctual reaction. Try cutting the head off a cricket or grasshopper & then touching it's body. It will "recoil in fright" or jump away in EXACTLY the same way it did with a head & brain attached! You're anthropomorphisising reflex reactions that are scientifically proven to have NOTHING whatsoever to do with brain function. Again, scientific studies have PROVEN these sorts of reactions in plants are repeatable & consistent & result in the release of chemicals, travelling in the plant's version of the human nervous system & result in actions 100% consistant with how humans respond to pain, both with the various chemical releases that occur & also the manufacture & release of toxins that are effective in stopping the attacks on the plant that are causing the pain reaction, as well as being effective in warning surrounding plants of the imminent attack, which prompts the surrounding plants to also initiate that "fight" reaction, so as to reduce or prevent attacks on it - the types of attacks that we know in humans are responsible for pain. We simply do NOT see these effective pain avoidance strategies in use in insects. If you rip off a cricket's leg, it doesn't limp, it continues on without reacting to the removal in any way after that initial reflex withdrawal action has been completed. This is consistent with what we know about insects lifecycle. In humans & higher animals, best survival strategy is to rest & recover from the injury, hence the purpose in pain. Due to the short lifecycle in insects, any that take time out to rest & recover from an injury die before they can reproduce & therefore, if they ever did develop the ability to feel pain, that individual would be automatically eliminated from the gene pool & would not pass on those pain feeling genes to any other in it's species, so it's simply irrational to think insects feel pain. I'm not ruling out the possibility completely, but I'm saying they are the least likely creatures to feel pain, far less likely than plants are, so you need to care much more about plant pain than you do about insect pain. Only the lifeforms with even shorter lifespans than insects are less likely than them to feel pain, this means viruses & bacteria probably don't feel pain either, just like insects
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  172. ​ @chihirostargazer6573  Yes I agree it should be reduced. I dont' think there's any doubt that chickens feel pain, so nearly 80 billion of them raised for food per year is unnecessarily high. We really should imo be eating larger animals that therefore require FAR less deaths to feed us The numbers on how many animals raised are chickens, compared to the total of other animals is insane! We also obviously need to address the "oil seed cake" waste, cause that's what the chickens are fed on. There's 300,000,000,000 kgs of that produced annually & because humans refuse to eat it, it needs to be disposed of, hence the chickens & what's left over then going to fish & pigs. That's enough waste, just in oil seed cakes alone, to feed 100 billion chickens from birth to slaughter weight! We really need to change our thinking & either eat tht waste ourselves, or return to using animal fats in shampoos, detergents, washing powders etc, instead of clearing the Amazon & Indonesian rainforests to grow oil crops to use in those products, so as to give them lables of "no animal products used in making this product", all while disposing of animal fats into landfill, as toxic waste, cause of the switch to using "vegetable oils" in it's place - oils that need deforestation to be grown & producing masses of waste that then require livestock like chickens to eat it, so as to avoid mouse & rat plagues from poor management of the waste, or lung cancer & environmental damage from burning it - which is what used to happen in the days when slaves had that job of burning it, so no-one cared
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  175. "vulgar language" ROFL! seriously? I think your bigger problem is the chance of being shot up visiting the mall, don't you think????? I VERY much doubt the language in your malls comes CLOSE to the language in Aussie ones, c*** is a term of endearment teens use towards each other here, quite normal to hear them say something like "buy us some goon won't ya f**'in c***" reply "s** yeh" etc etc Crazy the way you cencor stuff in your country though, I can't even post that in full here without cencorship! I don't understand that! Free speech means you should be able to swear as much as you like on social media, radio, tv, at malls etc etc, but best we can do here is say stuff like "root", that apparently your cencors haven't yet figured out has exactly the same meaning & "vulgarity level" as f*** here & our kids start going to malls unsupervised at around 9 years old here, one of my friends was a little shocked when his 8 year old daughter asked him to do that, he resisted for a while, but realised all the kids were doing it, so he let her go & went himself with a hat & sunglasses & stuff on & grabbed himself a coffee while watching secretly from a distance a few times to see she was fine & then let her continue unsupervised once he felt comfortable with it. Malls have plenty of activities to amuse them, so they're really not a problem hanging around with nothing to do. Only sort of exception was during covid, when lots of stuff was closed, so they ended up in big box stores & supermarkets, being bored & loud & of course kids & teens didn't wear face coverings here & acted like the pandemic had nothing to do with them, so with a huge drop in adults going to malls & the teens still attending in mass groups, as always, it meant they were the majority of the people in the malls & the only ones in large groups & without face coverings or any social distancing going on, so that did upset some people, eventually ending up with security throwing a lot of them out & over time they just did their own thing in different spaces, such as a store carpark near me became a badmittan court at closing time every night lol the kids all rocked up, with the nets & everything & sat around chatting in the carpark, then as soon as it closed & staff gave them the ok, they put up the net & began playing & were there for about 2-3 hours almost every night, about 20-30 of them hanging out there & playing, not sure if it was the same ones each night or different groups, but apparently that sort of stuff was pretty normal through most of my city. Just fix your gun problem & you won't have a reason to be scared of kids & teens being normal kids & teens & using their first amendment right
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  185. ​ @cchavezjr7  I've not done it large scale, only small scale to learn about the process & yes I know there's some water in it, but not the amounts you claim! A simple search tells me firewood's 10-15% water & that would be fairly consistent with the results I got in water vapour coming off mine. When I tried charcoaling sugarcane straight off the plant, there was more water, but even that came off pretty quickly. Simple searching is also telling me the carbon's about 50%. I had a lit flame on the gas coming off mine for the majority of the process. I only did small scale, so didn't try to harvest it to power the operation, but certainly saw lots of videos from people who were doing that when I was looking for info on how to do the process. If you're doing it large scale & frequently, I don't understand why you're not harvesting the gasses to power it, even if you have to supplement with additional fuel. Also important to consider transport costs & the more your points are correct, the more validation there is for charcoal therefore being a better option, cause otherwise there's costs & fuel to transport all that water & weight & unwanted gas to it's destination, where it gets into people's lungs & damages their health. That to me is actually the biggest reason for this, the workload for the people buying it in carrying such heavy stuff, along with the damage to their family's health. I'm more conserned about that than the environment tbh, but also aware that this is viable to sell, due to reduced weight & compact burning substance, therefore it is much more likely the charcoal will be transported & used as fuel, whereas without this process, they will just burn the weeds onsite & have only ash left, while those currently buying this charcoal would then be burning additional timber or local materials, such as cutting down local trees close to their homes, so clearly this is a better option, even if, say 50% of the weeds must be straight out burnt to power the charcoal making, cause that's still 50% that's becoming fuel instead isn't it! It's very easy to look at first world resourse availability & say this is a bad idea, but it's important to look at the real world & what's currently happening & going to happen with different options
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  261. I think it's reasonable to expect to be told if you test positive to covid & have the ship's doctor suggest you stay in your cabin, not tell you you're negative & go socialise with all the other passengers - which is what that ship's crew did! Also reasonable for the ship to take precautions with their new crew who had been exposed to covid! Passengers knew the cruise was between 2 countries that were covid free & so reasonably assumed they were as safe as at home In this case even a government inquiry found they seriously screwed up! The Australian government screwed up too, but no mistaking the fact that a single week long cruise caused covid infections in every state of Australia, New Zealand, Canada, America & suspected cases in a number of other countries with low testing rates & so unable to confirm. Secondary cases from WA to Tasmania to Auckland to LA etc were all confirmed from that ship though - and not a single one of the people who caused those infections were told they had tested positive until over a week after they had left the ship & in many cases they only found out the source when the media tracked them down & asked them if they had been sick! There were dozens of secondary deaths in relatives of people who had been on that ship that were fully preventable by simply telling the over 100 people who the ship's medical team already had positive covid test results for before the ship docked, about their positive test results! The cruise was between Australia & NZ, both of whom were covid free at the time, so there was no reason for anyone on board to assume they had caught covid while on that ship. They didn't know about the new crew members that had just flown in from the Diamond Princess to join that ship & who were coughing all over their food & infecting them with covid! Likewise when people on the RUby Princess got covid symptoms & saw the ship's doctor about it, they were tested & told they were fine & to continue enjoying the cruise, the cruise medical staff hiding from the patients their positive covid results! Look at the videos of the people leaving that ship & the crew all lined up forcing every passenger to walk between rows of them & have physical contact with them all! Even those that attempted to socially distance cause they had cold symptoms were denied the ability to do so by that ship's overbearing crew!
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  264. Australia solved those empty shelves prompting panic buying in a really cool way. It was near to easter time, so the toiletroll aisle was converted into the Easter bunny aisle. They spread them 1-2 deep only & literally filled the entire aisle with smiling, colourful easter bunnies. So instead of people seeing empty shelves & stressing, they walked down an entire aisle of colourful bunnies smiling at them & by the time they got to the other end of the aisle, they were feeling happy & had forgotten what they were even looking for in that aisle lol panic buying stopped completely within a week of that strategy being implemented & as for industrial v home rolls, there are still small size rolls made for industrial uses. Not every industry has, or wants, huge rolls & roll holders, some still do normal household size, so factories just swapped to making the small ones, single ply, wrapped in paper, designed to go out in pallet lots, sent to supermarkets in pallet lots instead, where they sold for $1.50 each, put through the checkout in the same way as fruit & veg that has no barcode All toiletpaper in Aussie supermarkets during panic buying was sold straight off pallets etc. It wasn't put onto shelves, wasn't any space, due to all the easter bunnies in the toiletpaper space, so it was just piled up at the back of the store next to the door that brought stuff out from the storeroom & when regular ran out, industrial rolls made their way out for anyone desperate enough to need them. Later once the ongoing panic buying had stopped, the industrial rolls remained in small quantities & even got bar codes for scanning at the checkout eventually, cause even now we have a little panic buying game that a handful still engage in anytime something happens. Everyone just stores extra at home now so they don't have to join the game, but apparently some still enjoy this weird little panic buying/clear the shelves for fun game
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  275. ​ @onebyday6065  Let me explain the basics of what microplastics are to you. Have you ever used a clothes drier? Ever collected lint out of it from your polyester clothing or polyester/cotton blend clothing? that lint is microplastics when it comes from plastic clothing like polyester! THAT is the source of the world's ocean's microplastics! Scientists that study this stuff can actually tell you where in the world a water sample comes from, based on the microplastics in it & clothing worn in the area, cause that's what microplastics are! There are in fact washing machine micro-plastic filters available that you can put onto your drain to collect the microplastics & bin them instead of flushing them into waste water systems, where they are pumped into the oceans, but they must be emptied every load & people don't want to do that, so washing machine manufactures refuse to build them into washing machines. Each time you wash a polyester clothing item without that filter (and you clearly don't have that filter, since you don't even know what I'm talking about with it), you are flushing micro-plastics into the oceans! Silk is expensive & lasts for a long time & doesn't break down with exposure to UV rays, making it FAR more sustainable than plastics in every way! If you want to pretend you're trying to move towards living sustainably, you need to understand stuff like this! GMO cotton btw also results in far less silkworm/cottonworm deaths than organic cotton does, so just some additional info for you there too IF you're serious about trying to be sustainable. Growing your own food is good, especially if you're actually serious about that & actually grow your own calories, such as wheat. Growing your own food allows you to see the processes involved in crop production & if you buy food later, at least you understand for real the impacts of each food. Clothing is the same, best way to learn is to try growing at least one plant of each & going through the process of turning it into usable clothing fibres, that way you can actually understand what's really sustainable & what's just propaganda
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  277. ​ @onebyday6065  plastic isn't nature. cotton bollworms & silk bollworms (shortened to just silkworms) are the same bugs, so if you wear cotton, same bugs die in the process, but in much larger quantities in cotton production & they do so at the peak of life & rith in pain for hours in the process. Cotton is the ONLY natural fabric produced as an alternative to silk in any sort of quantity. Wool has some issues (mulsing), but is probably the best option re animals, but doesn't directly replace silk, it's for warm applications, silk is for cool. Linen & hemp are too environmentally damaging to be able to be produced at the same levels as cotton (silk is also too labour intensive to compete). Jute etc work great for their purposes, such as sack making, but again don't directly compete with silk. Leather too, if waste product is used & it is done without chemicals, is also a great option, but it's very rare to find it chemical free & mostly only in saddles etc that need hard materials, again certainly not competing with silk. Silk is legitimately one of the kindest fabrics available to the animals, environment & the people involved. Silk is even regularly used as a viable option for women escaping domestic violence to be set up to become financially independent. The caterpillars go into their cocoon & totally transform. Their heads come out a different shape & instead of being squishy, they come out hard. While it's hard to study & confirm exactly, it's really not believed that it's possible for their brain to be in any way functioning while it's being completely transformed like that, hence why they build the cocoon to protect themselves for that period where they have no brain function. They therefore can't feel pain if they die during that process (unlike the cotton ones that die while actively eating & moving around prior to building cocoons)
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  278. ​ @onebyday6065  lol not very good research! You've got the land, so I suggest you grow all these various crops, at least one plant of each & actually learn for yourself the reality! You can grow Egyptian cotton if regulations stop you growing GMO cotton. I very much doubt there's any regulations prohibiting you growing regular cotton, but tree/Egyptian cotton will get you around any you think exist & no-one's going to be checking your greenhouse for a single cotton plant anyway! You probably should be asking why those regulations exist though, cause what you'll find will add to your education on the issues with these fibres. You can also grow linen/flax, there is absolutely NOTHING stopping you doing that! That is the simplest one to grow. Notable how you keep ignoring my suggestion to grow that isn't it! You're deliberately choosing to claim to want to grow problematic fibres, instead of the fibres that are viable for you to grow! You can also grow New Zealand Flax & Jute without any issues at all! Bamboo is useless for you to grow as a fibre, you cannot possibly make it into fibre yourself! There's a reason bamboo fibre only became a thing in the 21st century, it is simply impossible to make into fibre without very advanced machinery & chemicals & industrial processes. You're just trolling when suggesting you will grow bamboo for fibre! Same with wood! You can of course also VERY easily grow your own silkworms & make silk! You can also grow a range of other animal fibres, such as regular wool & humane angora wool from goats or a couple of well cared for bunnies & using sheering instead of ripping the wool off them, leaving them bald & bleeding (which is how industrial angora is produced). You can also make fibres from plants like nettles & do so MUCH more easily than from "wood" or bamboo! Cotton is the only natural fibre produced at scale for clothing, so to address your ridiculous claim that it can be grown in greenhouses, the world produces 27 million tonnes of cotton per year, at half a tonne per hectare (that's a football stadium sized building) so no, you can NOT grow it in greenhouses at the needed levels can you! Cotton makes up less than 1/3rd of fibres used globally, cause even 27 million tonnes doesn't come close to global needs, so most fibres are produced in plastic factories instead. You're also missing the complexity of the harvesting & ginning equipment needed for cotton production & it's size & incompatibility with greenhouses GMO is your best bet if you want to reduce bug deaths with cotton, as GMO can be designed to dead the bugs as soon as they bite it, therefore preventing them being able to multiply to begin with. Still more harmful than silk though Exactly what is your objection to sticking some linseeds into the ground in this land you claim to own?
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  279. ​ @onebyday6065  indoors? You've now moved from being able to grow it in greenhouses to fully indoors? You're going to build 50 million football stadiums to grow cotton in???? Cause that's the size you need to grow current cotton harvests indoors! You can NOT build that many buildings to grow cotton in! Anything can be grown in greenhouses or indoors, but it is simply not viable to do so for the vast majority of farm production! Your cotton clothing that you buy will NOT be coming from indoors, unless YOU grow it, which you have already made excuses for not doing. Yes, there are major pest issues with cotton & so regulations around growing it because of the amount of bugs that already need to be murdered to produce it, let alone if some hippy grows plants & refuses to cull the bugs on theirs & lets them get into nearby crops! Notice how there are no restrictions on the growing of mulberry trees or silkworms? That's cause there's no issues with bugs with them, no pesticides needed on the trees, FAR less animals dead from silk than from cotton! There is not going to be an issue with growing 1 cotton plant in a greenhouse though is there! When you do that, you say you can stop the bugs getting in, therefore also stop them getting out, therefore authorities aren't going to have an issue with you growing that are they! They will also not have any issues with you growing your own linen, yet you still refuse to do that, ranting about wood fibres, which you know (if you've done the research you claim) that you cannot use to produce fibres & clothing for your family! Linen, cotton, silk & wool are the only fibres feasible for you to use to make your own clothing for your family (along with nettles, hair etc etc if you really want to go down the path of using true traditional options) You're not inspiring anyone, cause you're not doing it! I personally HAVE grown cotton, linen, silk, angora wool & others AND I have a wooden weaving loom I made myself, AND a drop spindle I made myself (6 of them actually, cause more than 1 is needed for easy plying) AND I have actually completed the entire process from seed to material piece with the various fibres, and knitting btw is MUCH faster & more efficient in making clothing than weaving on a hand made loom, no matter how well you make the loom! Because I personally have the experience, I can easily see through your excuses & see that you have no intention of ever actually making anything & quite frankly don't even appear to be growing any of your own food, like you claim, given you are now saying you're not allowed to plant any plants in your state! I also grow all my own plant based foods. I have only a tiny garden, but I use efficient space techniques & indoor growing techniques & mushrooms to maximise my yield. I only buy in meat, I do intend on growing a batch of chickens myself for food, so as to see the whole process & understand it & also get the bi-products, feathers etc for use as well, but I haven't done that yet, only meat I've grown to date is bugs. I don't make my own clothes from scratch, there's just no way that's viable! I've done the process to see how it works & from that I know it's not viable. It's not like whacking some potatoes/sweet potatoes in the ground & harvesting 100kgs of food out of it! Fibre production yields VERY little & needs LOTS of work to turn it into clothing! Far worse than even dehulling grains is! (if you genuinely grew your own food, you would know what I'm referring to with that comment! You don't I'm sure, but you would if you were legit
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  281. ​ @onebyday6065  Do you have any stores near you that sell foods package free in quantities of your choice? We have those where I am, stores where you go in & scoop from bulk containers of grains & beans & put into paper bags & then pay for by weight. I suggest going into a store like that, if you have one, & scooping from every container that has a whole grain/bean & planting. I did that many years ago, scooped just a small amount, in many cases too little for it to even register, in other cases around 5cents worth (I did speak to the staff member before doing it & asked if I could just scoop some of everything into a single bag & just pay the most expensive price for the lot, but stupidly she said no, so weighed each of the 50 or so bags I had individually). I also bought the most diverse birdseed I could find & planted that & later also found a bulk/select & pay animal produce store where I could do the same thing with any remaining grains I hadn't grown yet. So I personally have grown almost every grain & bean available. In most cases, I grew 2-3 seeds in 1 kratky hydroponics set up milk bottle, so as to save space, easily lable & avoid weeds & know for sure what I had in each. I was surprised how many of the dried beans were dwarf beans, everything from pinto to navy to soy are dwarf! The grains surprised me with how long they took to dry after growing, I was thinking how fast they were to produce, but then had a 3 month wait on the plant while they matured/dried, rice being the only exception to this, drying very quickly & being ready for harvest in about half the time of all the others, like wheat, spelt, oats, amaranth, quinoa, millet, panicum, sorghum etc etc, then of course came the hard part with grains like rice & spelt & oats, with needing to dehull them before they could be eaten. I would highly recomend growing 1 or 2 of each plant in this way if you want to understand growing processes. Some seeds I wasn't able to get in this way, or the ones I got weren't fresh enough to germinate. Cotton I got from a local agricultural show, where they were giving away little packets of seed to kids to encourage their interest in cotton. After chatting with the guy about growing & how I was curious & growing all my own crops, just to see the process, he gave me about 10 packets of seed, cause he liked that I was interested. I only had space for a couple of plants, but it was still great to get the seed tehre, cause previously I'd only managed to get the tree/Egyptian cotton & after 2 years of growing, I had a nice big shrub/tree, but only 2 pods of low quality cotton. The agricultural show seeds grew nice & fast & yielded nice & high, but it still made it abundantly clear how little yield is achieved per plant & how much space is needed for cotton crops. Same with soybeans, I was surprised at how low the yield was, but researched to find that 20 pods per plant is the average in commercial farms - that's 50 individual beans total per plant! Mulberry tree I grew from seeds in a punnet I bought to eat. I keep that to only a small shrub, as I don't have space for bigger. I harvest the berries as food each year & then bring my silkworm eggs out of hibination & feed them all the leaves & prune the tree in the process, ready for next year. I keep some bugs to breed & with the rest, I fridge (which puts insects to sleep but doesn't harm them) & then once I've ensured I have males & females & they've breed, I put the sleeping bugs into the freezer, so they don't wake up again. If I don't havve the males & females, I get some more from the fridge & take them out & they begin their growing process again once removed from hibination. Having done a lot of wild lizard rescues with a wildlife rescue organisation, I'm quite aware of bug management, fridge to slow them down so the sick reptiles can catch & eat them is a nesesary part of that. Only exception I've found is with maggots, even in a low level freezer, their life cycle doesn't pause. Anyway for the silkworms, I put them to sleep, then freeze, then put the cocoons into the sun once they're dead, so as to remove all moisture, then I store until I have enough to actually spin the silk, cause otherwise it's too wasteful, with each cocoon being a different length. The fluff around the outside of the cocoon I use immediately for stuff like plant ties. Once the eggs have been laid, I leave them to turn grey & then fridge for next year & the moths I feed to birds (not that there's anything at all inside them for the birds to eat). Without inducing their death in this way, the males will get excited & flap themselves to death, or if there's females within their reach, they will rape them repeatedly, leaving them bleeding & eventually dying from this (mating lasts 12 to 24 hours in silkworms & the boys have a barb that connects them, so that the girl can't escape, no matter how much she tries to crawl away from the attached male) Most of my other plants I've obtained seeds, cuttings or plants from either grocery stores in the same way as the mulberry seeds, including plants like sugarcane, sweet potatoes & herbs, or from heirloom seed places eg yacon & painted mountain corn, or from regular seed suppliers & then in most cases I save my own seed for the next year & I grow as food the plants my experiments show give me the best yields & fit well in various parts of my garden. My back garden gets no sun in winter, so it only really grows oyster mushrooms during that time (in bags that I manage intensively). I also have the mulberry & other berries that go dormant in winter out there & manage to keep plants like lettuce sitting there, therefore staying fresh far longer than after harvest, even once the direct sun has gone for the year, so as to extend my growing season. This winter my coffee plant has had massive numbers of berries on it all winter too, not sure what's going on with that, still figuring it out. I got 3 coffee beans off it the year before last, then nothing the next year, then this past spring a tonne of flowers, taht became beans & now a year later, those beans are all still on it & all still green, so it's either a crop that produces only once every 2 years & takes that second year to mature the fruit, or that's what I get in my climate/garden, which is technically meant to be too cold to grow coffee. Anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens with it & I've already experimented with the 3 beans I got last time to at least partly know the process after harvest. Linen also goes well put out there in winter. I'm still trying to figure it out, but it's one of the many plants that grows until daily sunlight levels change, so I've actually had linen up to 6 to 8 feet tall when grown out there at the right times, which tbh, is then a bit of a pain to try to reet. Grown in regular sunlight or times of year, it's generally only a couple of feet long & matures faster. White & blue flowering versions seem to be about the same in linen quality, snails being my biggest problem in reducing the quality, due to eating the linen off the stem. New Zealand flax is much easier to grow than regular flax & no snail issues, but I'm still figuring out the options to reet/process it, other than for getting course, grass skirt fibres. It seems to be a much tougher fibre & is a perenial that needs next to no care. Native grains, likewise are really tough & need next to no care, but yield to space is much lower with them I find. Anyway, in reality, no-one's going to be fining you if you keep a single plant in a controlled way a single time & do what you need to with bugs to prevent problems, which in your case would probably mean giving your chickens regular access to it, but there are PLENTY of options available to experiment & the way to find them is to look at what people have been primarily using for millenium, along with what grows most easily/what you can most easily find in stores & sticking it in the ground & seeing what happens. It's up to you if you're serious about growing stuff & experimenting or not, but actually growing stuff is definately the best way to actually learn the processes & difficulties. If you think that cultivation of the land for planting is a problem, then you might want to look up holistic grazing & do that with your chickens or get a couple of goats or sheep to do it with. Just putting them into a small area every night for a few weeks should leave you with that area ready to plant out without any additional work needed from you, so nice fast way to convert as much area as you want to. Best option is goats/sheep into the tiny area to trample it well for a few weeks, then rest if for a week, then put the chickens in there to eat any new weed shoots or maggots etc in the settling manure slurry & add their manure to it, then it's ready to go. You could even throw some wheat or linseed or barley or corn or whatever in their for the chickens & anything they miss will grow & give you crops of that (you'll want to add additional seed once the chickens have been locked out of the area, cause they'll get most, if not all the seed you put in). Tree planting areas can be prepared in the same way too, although personally I've had zero sucsess in getting any fruit from apricots, peaches, cherries etc that I have grown from seeds in bought fruit, even after many, many years growth.
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  297. um in that case even a government inquiry found they seriously screwed up! The Australian government screwed up too, but no mistaking the fact that a single week long cruise caused covid infections in every state of Australia, New Zealand, Canada, America & suspected cases in a number of other countries with low testing rates & so unable to confirm. Secondary cases from WA to Tasmania to Auckland to LA etc were all confirmed from that ship though - and not a single one of the people who caused those infections were told they had tested positive until over a week after they had left the ship & in many cases they only found out the source when the media tracked them down & asked them if they had been sick! There were dozens of secondary deaths in relatives of people who had been on that ship that were fully preventable by simply telling the over 100 people who the ship's medical team already had positive covid test results for before the ship docked, about their positive test results! The cruise was between Australia & NZ, both of whom were covid free at the time, so there was no reason for anyone on board to assume they had caught covid while on that ship. They didn't know about the new crew members that had just flown in from the Diamond Princess to join that ship & who were coughing all over their food & infecting them with covid! Likewise when people on the RUby Princess got covid symptoms & saw the ship's doctor about it, they were tested & told they were fine & to continue enjoying the cruise, the cruise medical staff hiding from the patients their positive covid results!
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  310.  @boardcertifiable  I suggest you look up the Aussie tv show "a current affair" & "cockatoo" if you think cockies are easier to manage than raccoons! Our possums are the same as your raccoons & are really not an issue. Sure, they remove tiles & get into our roofs to sleep & sound like a herd of elephants in there & they eat roses & a range of other flowers & vegetables & fruits, but see Roman's comment as to what cockies are like, or look at the suggestion I gave to see entire verandahs & cubby houses turned into a pile of matchsticks cause the owner went away on holidays for 2 weeks, so there was no-one to chase off the pterodactyl mob. Don't get me wrong, we still love them, we just don't understand your hate for raccoons, cause we would absolutely love & embrace them too if they were part of our native fauna. Raccoons are certainly not any sort of an issue compared to our normal suburban neighbour native animals & you may want to look up the brush turkey too, that's one of the birds shown in this video. Male builds a nest to incubate the eggs with heat, to do so he gathers literally 1 tonne of leaf litter & builds a 1 tonne nest mound. They always seem to choose the best kept garden as their nest site too & kick that 1 tonne of mulch to that location from the whole neighbourhood, including across roads & they attack any car that dares interrupt their mulch moving activities & don't even dream of disturbing their nest!!!!!!! They're vicious little buggers if they get upset! Again though, we just see them as having the same rights to the land as us & just compromise & live in peace with them. Beyond me why you can't do that with adorable little raccoons!
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  325.  @lzl4226  yeh, I'm not totally sure my altitude here, but basically I'm at sea level :) I'm in Sydney Australia, so theoretically too cold for coffee growing, but I'm close enough to the coast & low enough altitude to be frost free & with modern weather, subtropical plants seem to thrive here, I've got sugarcane growing as well & a few tropical carnivorous plants, all fully outdoors & quite happy. With your comment's info added to it, I think I'm liking the idea of trying Sbinalla's suggestion of the popcorn maker, that would certainly keep the beans moving/avoid direct contact with fire/extreme heat. I'm following everything you're saying up until "development time" Does that mean the total cooking time, or time to cook after the first crack, or something to do with a time after cooking or what? I really don't have a clue what you mean with that & I really want to know, cause the rest of your info sounds fantastic & I really want to try following what you're saying, especially with the 4 minutes to yellow to indicate correct temperature, so if you can indulge me & explain that further, that would be great :) Height above flame I can't do on my cooktop, cause it's induction, I guess I could use charcoal & a barbie set up, but that might be harder to control the temperature on. First thing I think I want to try is the popcorn maker, cause I should be able to easily put just 2 or 3 beans in that & have it work just fine to test it without any great loses. Frying pan, air fryer etc kinda seems wasteful to run with just 2 or 3 beans in, but might be worth it, depending on how the popcorn maker works out. & just curious, do you grow your own too? If not, where do you source the green beans for to roast yourself? Anyway, thanks for the great info, much appreciated :)
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  331. ​ @Alinax99  lol oh dear! You REALLY need to educate yourself! 1. certain fibres are suitable for clothing, others are suitable for industrial uses, such as making sacks, mats or rough ropes for ships, agricultural use etc. Silk is NOT suitable for making sacks etc. Which of the fibres you just listed are suitable for the same purposes as silk? Not many are there! 2. I already gave you the stats. 81% of natural fibres in the world are cotton Jute-Kenaf and allied fibres are absolutely on the list of globally important fibres, huge amounts of grain & beans & other produce rely on these sacks to be moved around, as well as being the backing that binds carpets together. They make up almost 8% of global natural fibre production, but they have ZERO use in clothing or anything else silk is used for. Coir, likewise makes the cut, at 3% of global fibres, again for mats & ropes. Abaca-sisal-henequen and related are also nearly 3% & again are all unsuitable for clothing. So what are we left with? Linen? Less than 1% of global fibres, used to be big, until the world became environmentally aware, then fibres like linen & hemp that require retting that causes massive environmental damage fell out of favour. Hemp is at a ridiculously low 0.003% of global fibre production & I'm really not even going to bother with the experimental fibres. Do you honestly wear these fibres as your primary clothing source? You don't do you & if anyone in the world was going to, it would be people like you, but you don't, cause they're untenable. Like it or not, the alternative to silk is wool, cotton or polyester 3. organic farms are the worst offenders in terms of bug deaths in cotton farming, Non-organic have actually significantly reduced bug deaths in recent decades, by using GMO cotton that immediately dead's the bugs before they can take hold & breed, therefore reducing total death toll. The biological controls you speak of are NOT used in cotton production! The management of choice on "organic farms" is high levels of blood & bone & manure applied to the soil so as to make the plants as strong as possible, followed up by regular, scheduled spraying with pyrethrum - a natural pesticide from daisy plants, that can take up to 2 hours to dead a bug, the bug writhing in pain that entire time 4. speciesism can best be seen in someone who objects to silkworms being pampered their whole life, then painlessly disposed of at the most humane time possible, yet happily posions their cousins on mass when they feed on cotton. How can you morally be fine with cottonworm torture & death, yet object to silkworm humane death, when both are the same bug, separated only by a few thousand years of evolution in what they eat, with everything else about them being identical? 5. You REALLY need to educate yourself, not be a little pot calling a kettle black & thinking you're superior because you choose certain species to value & others to torture on mass - which IS what you do! You are all talk, but zero knowledge & zero actions on what you claim to believe! You do NOT choose fabrics that are less harmful, just fabrics you don't understand the damage connected to. Ignorance does not excuse torture though. Stop being a pot & go educate yourself!
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  353. ​ @Ass_of_Amalek  no, bio-char doesn't stop soil erosion, but when the bio-char erodes away, it remains in solid form, whether it ends up in the oceans or on another farm, it doesn't break down & return to atmospheric carbon in the way the rest of the soil carbon does when eroded, hence why it's a better option than planting trees, cause those trees die or get cut down & all their carbon goes straight back into the air, so the buying carbon credits to plant them was a scam. Credits should be available for the purchase of bio-char & storing it anywhere that prevents it being able to be used as fuel. Easiest option on that is mixing it into soils. If it was stored underground in dedicated carbon storage, there's too much potential to harvest that at a later date & sell or use as charcoal for energy purposes, spreading it in soils simply prevents that being possible The obvious solution in cleared amazon etc is to plant perennial grasses that are native or near native to the area ie they're well suited to it, even if they weren't the original plants in the area. The perennial grasses develop deep roots & hold the soil in place to prevent erosion & when allowed to grow to maturity before grazing, then allowed to grow to maturity again straight after, they provide as much, or near to as much calorie & nutritional value to ruminants as crops do, but additionally allowing them to be marketed as "grass fed", therefore increasing income & removing the need to clear new land to become farms. If the soil is in bad condition, you'd plant a mix of everything & hope something takes, but if you catch it early, or after it's been stabilised, you can switch to seasonal growing perennial grasses & grow them in such a way that crops can be grown within the same field without removing them, in "pasture cropping". I imagine that wouldn't work on the equator, as there's no wet & dry season to work with, so just efficient grasses will need to be used & grown as perennials, even grasses like alfalfa should work & sorghum can also be grown as a perennial, as can sugarcane to a large extent, needing fresh replanting only once every 5-7 years. No point trying to re-forest & cut down forests at the same time, just need to switch to perennials to stop the erosion & soil quality loss & the charcoal will also help massively in retaining any fertilisers that are applied to the land, especially in the high rain, nutrient leaching environments
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  376. ​ @apoptosis_101  maybe try organic pads? Or maybe a thin, washable pad/liner/cover you can put on the period pants & keep changing? The wetness is better than the alternative symptoms I was getting but yeh, if you're really yuck about that, it's going to impact you. It's not that bad, but having been an only tampon person myself, I do notice it. I tend to get gluggy stuff that I can sort of hold in & then excrete into the loo, but can't always control it, so period pants gives me the peace of mind, if I can't get to the toilet in time to get rid of that stuff, I can just let it go into the pants & tbh, I tend to change them if possible after that too, but the wetness is not actually that bad if I'm in a situation where I can't, once the pants are back up, it kinda returns to what it was before using the toilet pretty quickly & really isn't that noticeable at all, but yeh, given how sensitive you are about it, you're definitely going to notice it & not like it. Still much better than pads though, cause I'm sure you notice if they move slightly too do you? I know I do. Pants avoid all that stuff, there's a little thickness in the crotch, but they're pretty similar to regular pants, certainly much more similar to regular than a pad is! Something else I've noticed, there's no feel of plastics at all in the pants & I don't get any skin issues with them & I am sensitive to this stuff, BUT.... & here I'm getting personal & into tmi territory, if not already there lol, I've noticed if I fart, the pants kinda lift a bit as a whole, fart doesn't travel though them like with normal pants, so I think there might actually be some sort of plastic or something in them, so just to share that before you go out & spend lots of money on them & find they don't work for you. I'm using the bonds bloody comfy ones. I have tried other cheaper ones, still have them in my draw for emergencies, but I HATE the others, just not a comfy undie fit & elastic irritated me on both the legs & waist. They go on just in an emergency, for the time it takes the washer & drier to finish, then get replaced! I'm thinking for you, organic disposable pads, or period pants & an organic layer, maybe even a washer or cut up cloth nappy to give just one layer that blood will go straight through, so as to not interfere with pants pad effectiveness, but to give you the option to change that layer easily everytime you go to the loo. Pad in pants does absorb, so you shouldn't have issues with wetness coming back up through that layer & will give you a fresh & dry feeling :) kegel exercises to increase control over blood release are good too :)) The more you can get straight into the toilet, the less of an issue with pants/pads/wetness etc :)
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  381. ​ @Layput  it doesn't just "border" china, it's cultures overlap with China's, so if China had something in it's south in times before clear history on borders is available, then you need to show that the north of Vietnam was not included as part of South China or accept that at this stage there's simply not the evidence to claim to the contrary, otherwise Vietnam can claim it, in much the same way as people can claim gods caused something, until it can be disproven. The Hoabinhian & Dongsonian cultures in particular have clear evidence that they overleaped both South China & Vietnam in where they existed & as such it is reasonable to assume, based on currently available evidence, that anything they were using was in both China & Vietnam. The Han taking control of Vietnam likewise means it goes without saying that anything they had & allowed to spread within their territory could be found in Vietnam too. To say otherwise is a bit like saying Roman roads were ONLY found in Rome & not in any other parts of Europe. Of course that's not true, they took them into all parts of Europe they travelled into. Not looking for evidence because of wars etc in the country doesn't mean the evidence isn't there, just that it hasn't been found YET. Bit like how Aboriginal Australians were claimed to have arrived in Australia around 12,000 years ago, then 16,000, then 20,000, then 30,000, then it stuck at 40,000 for a long time, then it moved up to 60,000, now archaeological evidence says up to 85,000 years ago, but pollen & ash samples still say 120,000-130,000 years ago, so just because there's not yet archaeological evidence proving that, doesn't mean it's not true, just that there's not YET the evidence to support it, but everything suggests that enough searching WILL confirm that, so why shouldn't Aboriginal people claim that? Why shouldn't Vietnamese claim what they believe to be true & what best evidence suggests is true, just because invasions of their land means they've not YET been able to find the "proof" of it. Best evidence says silk was there along with China
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  413. ​ @Dave-in-MD  often a valid response, but in this case not. Very easy to look up photos of meat in Australia & other industry facts to see that my comments DO in fact represent the VAST majority of Australians. (and any not represented just have to suck it up, cause it's what Aussie health departments expect too) A handful eat tiny amounts of Wagu beef as an occasional treat, but you simply will not find meat like in this video in any Australian supermarket or butcher, cause again, it simply does not sell! It gets "reduced to clear" stickers on it anytime they try & then further "reduced to clear" stickers. You will see stickers on meat like that with a $2 sticker, down from $30 or so & it will STILL be sitting on the shelf & no-one buying it! "coles" and "woolworths" are the main stores in Australia, go look at the meat photos & range on their websites if you don't believe me. Look at the range of kangaroo meat & how lean that is while you're there too. Meat that looks like this video is exported when found in Australian abattoirs,, since it earns high profits that way, vs being thrown away if attempted to sell to Aussies. Also note that only 2% of Australian cattle are in feedlots & they spend only 2-6 weeks there (as opposed to 3-6 months in the US). Any meat destined for the Australian market is grass fed to slaughter, as that keeps it lean, which is what ALL Aussie consumers demand. Much the same as how Aussies eat very little pork/bacon/pig meat. Lamb is a bigger seller in Australia than pig is. Chicken & beef are the biggest sellers though, with chicken ALWAYS being eaten skin free & beef from lean animals. Fish is also hugely popular, I'm not sure how it's sales compare to beef/chicken, due to the huge variety available. Eating in Australia is just culturally FAR more healthy & lower in fat & sugar than in the US. Students from the US almost always comment on how they lose weight on moving here, even when seemingly eating the same foods as they were eating back home in the states.
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  414. ​ @Dave-in-MD  There is a "dulopoly" in supermarkets in Australia, with coles & woolworths. 48% of Australians say they primarily shop at "woolworths the fresh food people" and 39% choose coles as their primary shopping location, so that is 87% of Australians that reject fatty meat before we go any further. Local butchers likewise sell lean meat, but as I already said, you can easily look at the website for either of the above to confirm what I am saying. Both do extensive home delivery & "click & collect" (I'm currently on the woolies site doing my shopping for tomorrow's delivery), so the websites are full service, with photos of what to expect when you order online for all available meat cuts. EXTREMELY easy to confirm what the majority of Aussies eat, equally easy to confirm the amount of time spent in feedlots for fattening in each country Or if you don't like any of that, just go to the redit "ask an Australian" group & ask yourself & see if you get ANYONE from Australia telling you they will eat fatty meat You can also btw look at what is sold as bacon in Australia, cause I believe you sell strips of fat with a little meat? We sell the meat that has the big round lump of sold meat & a tail that has half half fat & meat, but a lot of people feed that to their dogs & eat only the meat part when buying bacon - bacon's not a big thing in Australia anyway though, was when I was a kid, but bacon & egg fried breakfasts have gone out of favour a long time ago as unhealthy. They've been replaced by Asian foods that are much lower in fat, more taste, less health issues All foods in Australia have "healthy star ratings" too btw, with 0-5 stars to help people choose more healthy foods & if you put a low star food in your trolley on the above websites, it will give you an option in the product details to "choose a similar, more healthy alternative" to click on & get the higher star/healthier options to replace it with if you wish to I wouldn't even know where to look to find fatty meat. There's probably 1 or 2 companies in big cities that do it, probably targetting expats who want fatty muck, but it's certainly not readily available, would take a lot of time & effort to find! & that's because of a lack of demand, the big 2 try anything that might sell, they've done stuff like "corn fed chicken" etc (that I believe was supposed to be more "flavoured" due to higher fat), but then they withdraw them from sale when no-one will buy them, which happens consistently. We have universal health care here, which means doctors are rewarded with bonuses for educating people on healthy eating & lifestyles, cause it saves our country lots of money in the long term, due to lowered chronic illness like diabetes rates & lower heart attacks etc. Even normal weight people get blood pressure checks on any doctor's visit & blood sugar levels with any blood tests & doctors intervene with any early signs of issues, which means making sure the person isn't eating things like fatty foods, chicken skin, too much soft drink etc etc (chicken skin being the big one, cause chickens are often sold with skin on to keep in moisture during cooking & sometimes poor, less educated people miss the info that they are supposed to remove & dispose of the skin before eating) Like it or not, the simple fact is cattle in Australia are raised to be low in fat & any that can't be for various reasons see their meat exported to countries like the US that are willing to eat fatty meat. They simply do not even try to sell it here, cause it does not sell
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  432. ​ @DrZaius3141  I mostly get my "propaganda" from the UN's FAO. Their study showed that 84% of all food eaten by all livestock globally is inedible to humans, with chickens & pigs being the main consumers of the human edible component & cattle eating very little of it. I'm not in the "global north", but even if you want to reference the US, which is the least efficient livestock feeding system in the world, reality is that 1. those systems exist because of corrupt subsidy systems & have nothing to do with cattle, cattle are just being used as waste disposal for the grain farmers are paid to produce, but that they then have to dispose of without feeding humans, so as to maintain global grain prices at the high level said farmers want & 2. even in those systems, cattle are still only eating 6kgs of human edibles to every 10kgs of meat they produce, because in reality, cattle cannot eat only grain, they MUST be fed primarily lower calorie feedstuffs or their rumen develops bacterial problems & the animal dies. The global average btw is 1kg of human edibles eaten for every 10kgs of meat produced So you want to rant about soy huh? Ok fine, soy's not fed to cattle, it goes to chickens & pigs & my comment related to cattle, NOT chickens & pigs, but fine, how much oil free soymeal do you eat each day? How much washing powder, shampoo etc etc, all the products with "vegetable oil" in them, do you eat or use per day? If you're not eating 5 times as much oil free soymeal as you are using in all the other products, then you are the problem! 98% of the world's soybeans are grown for their oil. Oils in all the above are either soybean oil or palm oil. Soybean oil makes up only 18% of the bean, so 82% of every soybean is waste & yes, that waste IS fed to chickens & pigs, cause you are refusing to eat the quantity needed to get rid of it & prevent mouse & rat plagues! The alternative of course is to use waste animal fats in your washing powder, but since you refuse to do that, soybeans must be grown especially for you & livestock are required to dispose of your waste. There is currently enough soybean waste in the world to feed 100 billion chickens from birth to slaughter every year! In the rare cases where soybeans are grown for cattle, they are grown for 3 months instead of 4 & then harvested as silage, with the ENTIRE plant being used as food. When they are grown for oil, the plants are grown for 4 months, then they are sprayed with herbicide, then the plants are left for the 5 day exclusion period & to die from the herbicides, causing even drying throughout, then the 50 little beans are harvested from each plant & the rest of the plant is disposed of & from those 50 little beans, 18% is used & the rest of the beans become waste, just like all the leaves & stems & pods have already become waste, whereas when eaten by cattle, ALL of that material is eaten & converted into meat! Sure, only 10% of what's eaten becomes meat, BUT even if you're eating the entire soybeans, that's only 2% of the plant you are eating & 98% you are wasting, so the cattle's 10% conversion is far more efficient than your 2% isn't it! Wanna test it? Amaranth is cattle fodder that vegans have now decided they want to eat, consequently yields are readily available for both. For cattle fodder, 1 hectare produces 40 tonnes of fodder per month, or 240 tonnes of fodder per 6 months, with just nitrogen fertiliser (cattle poo) & no herbicides or pesticides required. To grow it for vegans instead, 6 months is needed for growing of fodder (leaves), then seed growing processes, then seed drying for harvest. To create seed, potassium & phosphorous fertilisers are needed in addition to nitrogen, plus regular pesticides are needed & regular herbicides to reduce weeds (that cattle happily eat, along with any bugs). At the end of that 6 months, 1 hectare of amaranth will produce an average 1 tonne of amaranth grain. So we have 1 tonne of amaranth grain, or we have 240 tonnes of cattle feed, with your claimed 5-10% of that becoming meat, so that's 12-24 tonnes of meat from the same land area as your 1 tonne of amaranth, if using your calculations on feed conversion ratios. Far more nutrition & calories in 24 tonnes of meat than there are in 1 tonne of amaranth aren't there! As for water, the reason land requirements are generally put so much higher for cattle than crops is because cattle actually require far less water than crops, so cattle are put onto land too dry to grow crops. Just look at images for "Australian cattle station" if you want to see typical cattle farms & try to imagine growing soybeans on land that looks like that! Obviously in deserts, more land is needed to find food than on lush arable land, but if we compare like for like, then in reality, cattle are FAR more efficient per hectare than soybeans & other plant crops are. Most efficient of course is both, the highest calories possible from land come from rice fields, grown with fish in them to control mosquito & feed on them & ducks to control snails & feed on them, with both becoming food when the rice field is drained & after harvest, the rice straw being kept as feed for the animal that will pull the plow for the next crop, having that rice straw then converted into milk & cheese. So yes, I repeat, vegans are ignorant, they rant propaganda nonsense, with no actual knowledge of how farming works or what animals are eating, or even what percentage of crops humans are eating! Humans consistently get only 1-2% of the nutritional value from grains & other crops! Lettuce you get higher, but you're not eating just lettuce are you? Very water inefficient if you are! Go do some proper research & learn something!
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