Comments by "Ponto" (@Ponto-zv9vf) on "NYTN" channel.

  1. I don't think it's Lombards. People forget that after a few generations foreign ancestry is completely diluted or disappears. Look what happened to the Aegean Philistines in the Levant, 200 years they were completely Canaanite. Puglia is where the Illyrians settled, maybe it's due to them. By the way, why are blue eyes so important to you? I know lots of pale, blond and blue eyed people who are ugly and stupid.
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  2. Well, he is doing that stupid thing of thinking Africa is all sub Saharan, he ignores North Africa, Egypt, NE Africa and the old people of Africa like the KhoiSan. He only thinks of Black Africa like Nigeria, Benin, Ghana, Togo, the Congo... He also thinks all Muslims are Arabians, and that people who speak Central Semitic languages are all Arabians. North Africa has had contact with sub Saharan Africa at various times in its history, but they are not Black Africans, and they share similar ancestry to Europeans like Neolithic farmers, European HGs and Steppe ancestry and thanks to Islam sub Saharan slave ancestry.
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  3. Yes Mr Rabbit is quite a Wog.
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  4. Well she probably was mixed race, and not Italian just an Italian professor, they have lots of foreign professors in Italy. Same in the UK, even America. Just because she is located in Italy doesn't mean she's Italian.
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  5. Having blond hair and blue eyes doesn't make anyone look German, it just makes them look like blond blue eyed Italians. Your grandmother could have looked North African, I doubt it, she just looked foreign in your country.
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  6. I say modern Italians even Northern Italians and Swiss Italians are shifted to the east. It doesn't affect what the modern Italians look like, but it is there in the dna.
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  7. Your are right. European culture is different to that of North Africa, Egypt, the Levant, Turkey and Iran. You don't have to wander far even in Istanbul to see how foreign Turkey is to Europeans. Islam tends to produce rigid, dogmatic thinking and is backward looking. Europe is not like that except in the Middle Ages. Also people forget that most of Europe has been trodden upon by all sorts of people like Huns, Avars, Mongols, Romani and Jews and that Sicily had its indigenous tribes before the Punic and the old Greeks like the Elymians, Sicani and Sicels. An interesting question is how Arabian are the so called Arabs like the Sudanese, the Egyptians.., how Germanic are the Germans, how Slavic are the Russians and Poles. Question Italian ancestry will only lead to questions about the ancestry of other Europeans.
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  8. Being born in a place does not make your of that place. Jawhar was some sort of North African born in Sicily.
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  9. Southern Italy had the Normans and the Lombards. So what's the difference? Northern Italians are not really that pale, they are still darker than Central and Northern Italians and have dark hair, brown or hazel eyes. Their skin isn't that pale. Yes, a few are pale, they still look Italian. One albino Gorilla doesn't mean the rest are not black.
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  10. The Mediterranean look is a catchall. The reality is that Europeans, Near Easterners and North Africans are different in looks. Europeans from Britain and Germany that wanted to go into Arabia, visit Mecca, Medina, old sites in the Near East in the old days just dressed and acted like Arabs, spoke Arabic and had no problems. West Eurasians tend to look like each other just not identically.
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  11. I have 7 siblings and don't look like them. I have dna tested and am my parents' child.
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  12.  @bouchacourtthierry8506  There's a lot of variation in France in phenotype, any European would look at home in France.
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  13. I am not Italian, and I am slightly annoyed. Mr. Rabbit is some work. The woman is a mixed American and has indications in her phenotype that show this mixed ancestry, one thing it isn't Italian, and its due to American slavery and the history of free people of color in the USA.
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  14. Too bad Mr Rabbit cannot speak decent English. From an old British viewpoint, I am not British by the way, the saying is Wogs start east of Calais. If you don't know what a Wog is, well, learn. Honestly as far as Italy is concerned, all Italians are Dagos, north, south, east and west. Even the French Corsicans are Dagoes. This nonsense about the Mezzogiorno being African or Arab does not matter, all Italians can be considered Africans and Arabs, this Northern Italian thing about being more European is fiction. Language is language, it means nothing. Italians are as a group rather ugly and unattractive, Northern Italians included. Mr Rabbit looks very foreign and can pass as Arabian, Iranian, Armenian and even Egyptian. I have been all over Italy, and I find no difference in looks, what varies is the way they use standard Italian. Naples Italian is hardly intelligible, but you can say that in any part of Italy, they have their local languages. Veneto is a mixed region, they have a lot of South Slav ancestry. That's the point, you cannot prove being Italian by your dna as each region has its own admixture with neighboring regions, and foreign immigrants. Genetically Southern Italians don't have a lot of alien ancestry, most of their ancestry is from Neolithic farmers who are one of the three founding populations of all Europeans. Swedes are more than 40% Neolithic ancestry, Southern Italians are more like 60% Neolithic ancestry. All Italians have Steppe ancestry, it's in the 20 to 30% rate, it's one of the founders of European ancestry. Mr. Rabbit is exaggerating the effects of the Normans who were mongrels not Scandinavian but a mixture of French people. The majority of Italians have dark hair, and brown eyes, north and south, and an olive skin tone. Even Swiss Italians are dark. There is too much exaggeration about pigmentation, about alien ancestry, about the differences between north and south in Italians. You can say the same about Germans, about French people, about Poles, Italy is no different except in some people's prejudiced minds.
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  15. The question is why an Italian would intermarry with African Americans. Doesn't make any sense to me unless Italians would jump into bed with anyone with the right genitalia.
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  16. No. Sicily is closest to Tunisia not Algeria. Your geography is not good. Even so, you need a good and not be sea sick to go from Sicily to Tunisia.
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  17. Good on you. I don't care about those old ethnic groups. I only care for my ethnic group and the country my people were born for the last 500 to 1000 years, not some pre historic period.
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  18. They love the sun as well. I have seen it in the country I was born in, they are in summer what Australians call brown as a berry i.e very brown sun burnt.
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  19. I don't have feathers. The man's an idiot, and definitely lowering Italian IQ.
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  20. It is old Greek, pre Slavic, more like the people of Crete and some of the Greek islands. Greek mainlanders are like their Balkan neighbors. And in Sicily there were native peoples, the Sicels, the Elymians and the Sicani.
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  21. Well, isn't there prejudice in every country about different regions, and accents. Take England, the West country accent makes one laugh, the Northern accents make them sound like idiots and Cockney, it's disgusting.
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  22. The Moors are a sort of invention used in the Islamic occupied parts of Europe. They were mostly North Africans. I don't think much about them, and I hate their architecture, all those ugly tiles, and over done arches and columns.
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  23. It's the common belief repeated often and it then becomes fixed and as being true. You can say the same about the IQ of sub Saharan Africans, or their appearance being less attractive than that of Europeans. Ashkenazi Jews are quite intelligent? Well, I have met many and they seem as stupid as any other people. The Irish are nothing but drunkards who want to engage in fist fights. Is that true? Your Sicilian friend is brainwashed, and probably rather stupid.
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  24. 12% Nigerian, I guess Yoruba, is way to high for any European. Most Southern Europeans, and many Central and Northern Europeans on MyHeritage get Nigerian, 1 to 2%. It's BS of course.
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  25. My guess is you tested with MyHeritage. That company is good for genealogy but ancestry it is crap. North African ancestry is very low in Southern Italians and mostly in Calabrians, not Campanians, they didn't make it that far north of Calabria.
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  26. The only connections between Italy and Africa are colonial and imperial as in Imperial Rome or Fascist Italy under il Duce. Genetically not much at all. Dna analysis of Punic settlements in Sardinia, Spain and North Africa showed that those Punics had a cosmopolitan population containing black Africans, Levantines, Europeans from all over Europe and even some Indians.
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  27. I live in Australia, and I can tell Pacific Islanders, your Melanesians from Black Africans. Very easily. I have noticed certain African Americans can't. Those Americans are hopeless, they don't know an African negro from a black Melanesian.
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  28. So what. Britain was Roman for 300 years.
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  29. You must have been very ignorant or you live under a rock.
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  30. Italians in Zimbabwe, Botswana, Angola, Mozambique? You are thinking of the Portuguese, sport. Wrong dagos or diegos. In Australia the Italians are dying out, they introduced expresso coffee and pasta, not much else. There's Tina Arena, she's as singer, Sicilian ancestry I believe. Can't think of other notable Italians except Rafaelo Carboni who was in the Eureka Stockade, you have to be Australian to understand the significance of the Eureka Stockade.
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  31. I am from Southern Europe, and I did not know about couscous, which I don't like, until I was in my adulthood. When I was in Sicily I didn't see anyone using targines or sitting on the floor eating with their hands some oily mixture of falafel.
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  32. I think Mr Powell looked quite like what he was, a light skinned Negro with a big nose. He looked as Italian as a Mule looks like a Horse. I don't understand why you foreigners think various mixed bloods look Italian because they are not dark skinned, don't have nappy hair or flat noses but are obviously mixed race.
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  33. Naples is a rather dirty city, and they speak a language which is different from Standard Italian. Honesty, I hate the place, but not because it's Africa, more because it's a horrible place full of horrible people. As to you claim about you mother's family, well I think you're lying.
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  34. No need for African as the Moors came from Africa, North Africa. You are wrong sport. Northern Italy and Southern Italy are basically identical looking, cultural differences and linguistic differences exist, but they are the same. So North Africans were in Iberia for quite a while, that's not Italy, and so what anyway. The Romans were in Britain for 300 years and left walls, baths and other structures but genetically they left nothing. The Moors in Iberia built some hideous buildings like the el Hambra and some mosques, but so what. There are the remains of Roman churches and structures all through North Africa, Anatolia, the Levant. It's no big deal.
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  35. Julius Caesar had a distinctive look, the receding hair, the cheekbones.
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  36. Being light skinned and having light hair, I doubt you are blond, and green eyes does not make you European or White. It's a phenotype found all around West Eurasia and resulted from the mixing of Neolithic farmers with hunter gatherers, and Steppe herders from the backside of European Russia. You are European, that' it, nothing more.
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  37. I consider the differences between Northern and Southern Italians are exaggerated, frankly the look similar to me. As to pigmentation, they are different from the extreme Northwest Europeans who are ruddier, are paler, and the eyes are often blue or green, the hair lighter than the browns of Italy. Most Northern Italians have dark hair, and brown eyes, and are not ruddy. True in the borderlands, people who spoke German or French or Slovenian there may be some the approximate NW Europeans in pigmentation, but even going into the countries surrounding Italy there are many of darker pigmentation. An ancient Roman would stick out today because they would be slimmer, and shorter than modern Italians. I would say the looks of Italians compared to ancient Romans, Etruscans, Samnites, Greeks and Gauls probably are quite similar, but genetically the modern Italians are shifted slightly towards the east. There was a huge number of Greek speaking immigrants to Rome and its empire from Anatolia and Syria, and most of them stayed and interbred with the old Italians. You cannot deny the dna results from the different periods of Italy. The pre Imperial Romans were like modern Central and North Italians, the Imperial Romans shifted towards Anatolia and Syria, post Imperial Italians are like Southern Italians.
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  38. Terroni, you know the insult. Just use dago as it applies to all those Italians. In Australia Italians are dagos, spicks, chocos, spags and wogs. 23andMe is better than MyHeritage, and Ancestry is best for Southern Europeans. Actually the alien element in Italians, northerners as well even Swiss Italians, is West Asian, and it came to Europe in the Bronze Age to Iron Age from old Anatolia when it was still Greek speaking and of Greek culture. Southern Italy and Sicily was very old Greek and those old Greeks had Anatolian Greek ancestry of mixed West Asian type.
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  39. It just one blood factor which can cause problems, but racially it isn't significant. The Basques have a lot of Rh- and they are half Neolithic farmer, and half Western Hunter Gatherer. They still look European, somewhat ugly but European.
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  40. Look friend, you don't have to have degrees specializing in genetics or statistics like Mr. Patterson or Mr. Krause to be able to use various programs that analyse dna results from various people around the world. Tunisians, Algerians, Moroccans, Libyans and Egyptians are part of the dna cline that goes from the Caucasus region in the north all the way south to North Africa. They are not part of the European clines. The closest group to these Caucasus people, Levantines, Anatolian Turks, Iranians, Arabians and North Africans are the Cypriots. You can pick out those people from North Africa and the east Mediterranean from Europeans as easily as those silver quarters from those of base metals. Let's face it, most of you folks cannot tell West Eurasians apart when they are the color of Mr. Rabbit is compared to Lebanese or Syrians. They look the same to you, but their dna separates them, the sheep (Europeans) from goats (North Africans and Eastern Meds)
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  41. It's probably the inability of testing companies to separate Southern Europeans from each other.
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  42. Poor Italy. All these foreigners wanting citizenship. Stay in your own countries and try to make your country better than go to another country and pollute it.
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  43. He would probably be speaking to your chest, they weren't tall those Romans.
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  44. What is he? Pink, creamy, olive or brown?
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  45. You can ask, it's a free country where I live, but why? What's important about what is Europe or what is Africa considering Africa is much more than some Negro homeland. I rely on dna, and I know the answers to your questions. Mr Rabbit obviously know bigotry, but dna results, he knows nothing. In Australian slang, he knows fuck all.
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  46. Well, the problem is that the Romans of the Imperial Age were the people to know, Rome the place to go, it was the center of everything. Why do you think Gauls, Huns, Langobards, Goths... went there? For the sun! Look at the USA, it's becoming less European day by day, well, that happened in Imperial Roman Italy. But one day, the Empire crashed, and the rats left for Constantinople.
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  47. Everyone does that. It is like some Lebanese American saying he can't play an Asian, when Lebanon in in Asia, and Lebanese are Asians. Australian Aborigines call themselves Black and they are not from Africa.
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  48. She has a lot of hang ups due to her non European ancestry. She calls it Creole. Those Creoles have the brown paper bag test, if you are lighter your are okay, but darker then you are a negro.
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  49. Mr Rabbit is a bigot. He has no reason to as his looks are very Southern European. It's the pot calling the kettle black.
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  50. Sorry I think you are of basic intelligence. So American.
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  51. So, even Rommel was in North Africa, the Nazis in Sicily, Greece... it's no big deal.
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  52. People use olive skin like it means something. There is a variation of skin tones everywhere even among Northern Europeans, Italians, Greeks and Spanish are different to the Northerners but they are not all the same identical color. Some people call the brown tone of Fitzgerald scale No. 4 olive, but it's brown.
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  53. I don't have a dog in this fight as I am Australian though born in Southern Europe. In Australia race isn't entered on every document from birth to tomb. My opinion is that there is a stereotype among Americans of what a European person looks like, frankly they have to look like Australians Liam Hemsworth or Cate Blanchett to be considered White Americans. The composite is okay considering the variety of phenotypes of White Americans.
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  54. Italian Jews are much the same as other European Jews like the Ashkenazi and Sephardi. Those European Jews have Italian female ancestry and male Levantine ancestry going back to the Iron Age Italy. The difference is that the Sephardi went to Iberia, the Ashkenazi to the Rhineland and the Italian Jews stayed in Rome and over time drifted apart.
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  55. I have been to Italy and North Africa. They don't look alike. You know in my town in Australia there are Italians from all over Italy, and various people from outside Europe, I don't have any difficulty picking them apart. You obviously have some difficulty as they all look the same to you. We have a lot of Indians here too, I don't like them at all.
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  56. In Italy the north is prosperous, the south much less so. The problem isn't about where Africa or Arabia starts in Italy, it's about the rich despising the poor, and exaggerating the differences between north and south in looks, which in my opinion is minimal.
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  57. I lived in an suburb full of Italians in Australia, and lived in Italy for some time, I see little difference north or south. I think in the USA, and Australia the coming of short, suntanned, dark haired and eyed people was shocking. Australians of old weren't Nordic Gods but they as a rule did not have dark hair, dark eyes, a non ruddy complexion and tanned slightly.
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  58. Italy? Go to Germany or Poland.
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  59. If you believe in blessings you believe in curses. It's just the other side of the coin. Italians are not that mixed, and it's not anything good or bad. The past is the past and should be forgotten. Live in the present.
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  60. I suggest you test with another dna company as your results are not credible.
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  61. Yes you are right. From my experience people who inherit no genetic markers from a specific ethnic group is because their parents' genetic markers for that ancestry was small.
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  62. I think Mr Rabbit is quite low brow. It is said that the IQ of Italians have decreased quite a lot since the Imperial Rome age, and Mr. Rabbit seems to prove that.
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  63. Why should you? You're a foreigner of mixed ancestry like most American Blacks.
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  64. North Africans all have sub Saharan ancestry, they are not wholly North African Berber. I suggest you test him again.
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  65. It's the same in most of Europe. Low birthrates, importation of foreigners to run health care, security, transportation... Why do you think Britain left the E.U? The foreigners moving to Britain from E.U countries not just Bulgarians and Romanians but Indians, East Asians, Negro Africans.. It got too much for the Brits who by nature are Xenophobes.
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  66. I don't believe you or the man is one Bullshit artist. In Australia, looks of people say they are Italian, but they end up being Iranian or some other foreign nationality.
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  67. Actually light skinned African Americans claim Native American ancestry. Skin color and hair texture is not really an indicator of race, it's not dna evidence. The thing about Americans, Euro Americans that is, is that they look vaguely European but cannot be placed in any country in Europe. They don't look Irish, English, German. Swedish, Italian, Greek, Polish... they look too mongrelized to be anything.
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  68. North Africans are not Negroes. You know that, don't you? It is only dumb Americans who think everyone on the continent of Africa are Negroes. North Africans are not that dark, only the descendants of slaves called Haratins. I tell you what Haratin means, it means having skin the color of shit.
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  69. There are differences around the Mediterranean basin. Europeans are distinct, well usually, from those of the east Mediterranean, and definitely to those from the south Mediterranean. You don't have to be a racist to notice these differences. One thing about Italians is they are like lizards, sun lovers, and get quite brown. In other regions of the Mediterranean they take efforts to stay pale, out of the sun.
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  70. You are exaggerating. Italians tend to have Thalessemia, it is a similar blood disorder. It's due to an adaptation to the Malaria parasite. Sickle cell is mostly black African, African Americans are mongrels of mostly black African ancestry and some European, naturally they would have Sickle cell anemia. Hispanics are mongrels of Native American, European and black African. Italians have little or no Negro ancestry. You shouldn't exaggerate.
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  71. Yes, but as with European Australians, European Americans do not want to identify with their non American born ancestry and culture. It's their choice. I am 100% of my ethnic group, and I don't identify with it at all.
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  72. Being European is not just about dna, it's a deep engrained cultural thing. In Europe, you can say that Russians are genetically European but mentally they are in East Asia, which is one reason they don't get Democracy and transparency.
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  73. Your Wasps and Celts have a lot of Steppe ancestry which came into Europe in the last 4, 500 years. So whose more European? Blow ins from the Eurasian Steppes or people whose ancestors where in Italy in the Mesolithic or the Neolithic? The Brits and Irish come from people that lived not in Britain or Ireland but the Eurasian Steppes, they are immigrants who spread plague to the Neolithic farmers and the remnants of the hunter gatherers killing most of them off. Great ancestors they have.
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  74. If you want to learn about Italy, you won't find it on Youtube or some idiot professor.
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  75. Was he meant to be a Northerner or just a lighter Italian?
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  76. I seriously doubt your sanity. Take up parachuting without a parachute.
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  77.  @mississippigod3938  Not really. French people are a central European people, and Italians are Mediterranean, their ancestry isn't quite comparable. I think the testing company the woman used must not be 23andMe or AncestryDNA because she wouldn't get such a weird result. People do get unexpected results due to adoption, IVF, NPE but I guess she knows she isn't in those categories.
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  78.  @Tinoeditss  I don't consider North Italians special and they don't cluster with French or Spanish people but other italians.
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  79.  @erichamilton3373  From when I was at 23andMe, French and Germans were lumped into the same group. What was her main ethnic ancestry on 23andMe?
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  80. @Iskatel.Priklyucheniy True, but White Americans are of mixed European origins, they are not 100% anything.
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