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Comments by "Paul Frederick" (@1pcfred) on "The Linux Community is Toxic! Let's Patch This." video.
Because some people come off as so clueless it is easy to imagine they do not know a manual even exists.
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Linux is all about scratching your own itch. And no one is owed anything when it comes to Linux either. Not even a how do you do. If people don't want to run Linux well that's what Windows and iOS are for. Have fun. The whiners will not be missed.
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Manuals were written to be read. Retyping information is not a useful activity. You should never ask for help until after you have exhausted every other avenue available to you. http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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Let's just say that Canonical's agenda may at times be at odds with a Linux enthusiast's best interests. Once you learn enough you may see what I mean more clearly then too.
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People are certainly free to run whatever they want to. But they also need to be prepared for the consequences of their actions too. The advise of successful experienced users should not be dismissed out of hand. Remember, it works for us. You're the one with the problems.
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Congratulations. You're finally doing what you're supposed to be doing. Which is finding your own answers for yourself. People get RTFMed because they are lazy sods. I have to be really stuck to ask a question about Linux. I will literally spend weeks looking for the answer myself before I even contemplate crossing that bridge. Because no one really owes me any answers. So I figure my question had better be a damned good one.
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A lot of FLOSS devs today are in fact paid for their work. Or they're using Linux to showcase themselves so they can land a paying gig. Even RMS charges a consulting fee. The last I heard it was $200 an hour. I bet it's gone up since then too.
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I try not to make blanket judgments. I'm sure poverty works well for lots of folks. Otherwise it wouldn't be as popular as it is today.
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When someone has skills that you do not have or answers that you seek they are better than you are. They worked for it and earned it too. The sooner you realize it the better off we'll all be too.
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Ubuntu is fine for new users to use. Now if you're still using it in 3 years then we'll have words. BTW you're right about Arch and Gentoo. So you're off to a good start in my estimation.
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@erikprantare696 no one has ever told me to RTFM. I generally don't tell people that either. I either answer their question if I can or I tell them that I do not know. But I will suggest people spend some time learning about Linux by reading whatever they can. You never know what you might find out.
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You are so deep in the madness of SJW identity politics that down looks like up to you.
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Capitalism produces positive results.
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@jellyfishi_ which section? Why all of it of course! When we say RTFM we do mean the whole thing. It is what we did. Then if you still have a question you may ask. There are some topics that are not covered. There you're directed to read the source code then. I read about Linux for a year straight before I even started running it. Because I wanted to have some idea of what I was doing. I asked a question in a forum the other day. But that was only after I'd spent two days reading everything I could about the topic. Asking is the last thing anyone should ever do. When you've exhausted every avenue then you ask. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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@Faggbear Animations that's their loss then. I guess if they're smart enough to figure things out on their own then more power to them. But if they're that smart they already know what they need to do. In Linux there's two kinds, those that read manuals and those who write them.
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@mariolis telling someone to RTFM is telling them the answer is out there. They are closer to the solution then too. You cannot expect people to duplicate effort over and over again. That's why manuals were written in the first place. So we didn't have to give out the same answers ad nauseum. Now I am telling you to RTFM http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Read it!
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@baaz5642 the manual is likely more accurate than some random person on the Internet. Documentation is hard. What's worse than RTFM is check the code. I just had to do that with a program. It wasn't acting like I wanted it to so I had to edit it a bit. I was hoping there was a switch, but there wasn't.
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@liothesilverwing3016 right now if you let me I will try to help you. The object of Linux is not to just gain market share. The real goal of Linux is to offer people freedom. We'd like to see as many as possible be free. At the same time it is not realistic to expect to get everyone out of the matrix. We only have so many red pills to go around. Or maybe it's the limited supply of gruel? In any event we need to scale expectations to conform with reality. If you fail to understand the message you're going to end up like Cypher dealing with Agent Smith to get plugged back into the matrix. So I worry about your digital soul. And yes software written be Lennart Poettering is inherently evil. So make the sign of the cross when you mention any of it.
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People that cannot fix their own issues obviously need to learn more. They will benefit from the effort in ways that are not immediately apparent. So just telling people what they want to know is not always the best thing to do for them. Because they'll be missing out on a lot more.
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Yeah like that Linus Torvalds guy. I mean where does he get off treating people like he does? He acts like he made Linux or something! https://goo.gl/snUP83
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You mean like what you're trying to do with this video? Agree 100%
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Run Linux and file bug reports after you have throughly investigated things, and know it is not just you.
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There are people that aren't entertaining? You're quite a find yourself. A regular laugh a minute.
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