Comments by "Paul Frederick" (@1pcfred) on "How 6 Million Pounds Of Electronic Waste Gets Recycled A Month | Big Business" video.

  1.  @uap24  HDDs weren't a consumer product when I was in school. I used speaker magnets.
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  2.  @Arun_hog  it far exceeds the resale value here too. But we're not being told the whole story of how this business stays afloat.
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  3. That's probably how they get federal subsidies. Woman owned business.
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  4. Legally profit is all a corporation can care about.
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  5. Why should they? What do we get in return? Who pays the shipping costs?
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  6. You cannot use old electronics. The stuff is old. That's why it got tossed out. It is obsolete and has been replaced with better tech. That's why they're not still selling original AT PCs in stores today. Because nobody wants them!
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  7. The guys is expected to disassemble a lot of pieces a day. He cannot possibly be efficient not using power tools.
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  8. Should? What should they do simply yell at the periodic table and force elements to do what they want them to do? Maybe that works for you but it does not work that way for the rest of us in the real world.
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  9. Yeah ferrous metal is worth about $200 a ton.
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  10. We use what we use because it is what works. You cannot make a computer out of hemp. Well, perhaps you can, but we certainly do not know how now.
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  11. Says who?
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  12. What do you need to be told? For the benefit of all Mankind, of course.
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  13. Someone is subsidizing this place. There's no way they're making it on just what they extract alone.
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  14. Now you know why the world is in the shape that it is in.
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  15. And that's how you know it is a subsidized industry.
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  16. What are you going to use an old 500 GB IDE HDD for today? A paperweight?
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  17.  @stockholmkyiv  not everything can be efficiently and economically recycled. How much effort would it take to accumulate enough HDDs in one place to make it viable? You cannot learn how to swim in ankle deep water. Sometimes you have to go all in. That is the problem we face in our waste stream management today. We haven't brought up to a level where it is worthwhile.
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  18.  @stockholmkyiv  if it was any good no one would be throwing it away. Even if it was the random nature of the blend makes it not worthwhile to sort through. There's nothing you can do with mismatched parts. There's no practical way to even know what you have in many cases. How much electronics have you personally recycled? One of us here actually has. I happen to know it is me too.
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  19.  @relaxthegamer  I pull the magnets out of them. There's a pair of incredible magnets in every old HDD. I wouldn't trust old HDDs as far as using them goes. They're not worth shipping anywhere either.
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  20.  @uap24  most people have no time, use or interest in what can be salvaged from broken items. That's something that would behoove you to understand. Your experience is different from that of others. All are equally valid though.
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  21. It is what they want to do.
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  22. The value of precious metals is far less than what you paid for any device. And your labor to extract it would be far more than you'd get. There isn't a dollar's worth of gold in a PC and you'd never get it out. It's there it just is not extractable.
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  23. Actually we're pretty sure natural resources are infinite. We've been staring out into space for a while now and there's an awful lot out there.
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  24. Not really. There's no way that broad is self sufficient doing what she's doing. Her husband probably pays for it all just to keep her busy.
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  25. Ah yes rules to encourage. Everyone always likes those. Where do you think you need some encouragement? What rules should we impose on you?
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  26. When all else fails toss it out!
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  27. They do have a recycling plan, They send their trash to a place like this.
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  28. They're not doing what needs to be done now. I agree with your sentiment but at the same time we have to acknowledge other factors that make disposing of equipment the sound economic move. Time is money.
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  29.  @gteixeira  nothing getting tossed out is brand new. So none of it is high end today. Not even something that may have been high end years ago. Progress is relentless.
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  30.  @gteixeira  good for you. Not good in a professional setting though. Professionals do not have time to be working on the devices they need to make a living. They need to just get on with their jobs.
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  31. If you don't think they're completely subsidized now I cannot imagine why not. They have a lot of "secret" clients. I bet she's got secrets.
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  32. Get financial backers that will keep you afloat.
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  33. Why would you ever think the planet needs to be saved? It has already survived a collision with another planet. How much worse can anything else be? When the Sun eventually swallows this planet up no one is going to save it then either.
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  34. You miss the part where they said the products are not made to be recycled? We cannot design them to be recyclable and have them perform satisfactorily either. What I always tell people is that we always do the best we can do. It may not be enough but it has to do.
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  35. You do not have to plan on obsolescence you can count on it being the natural order of things. Maybe we should all still be using abasuses instead of evolving electronic devices?
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  36. That's not the issue. Technology does not have to break to be valueless. It only has to be superseded by better tech.
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  37. The devices are extremely complicated. They're the way they are because that's what we want.
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  38. I am having my doubts that business is running without huge subsidies to keep it financially afloat. Maybe it's really a fentanyl lab in disguise? They're not breaking up electronics they're breaking bad!
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  39.  @torchandhammer  how much palladium do you think you're going to get out of e-waste?
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  40.  @torchandhammer  well then you sit there with your torch and your hammer and you recover it then. You'll be on Easy St. in no time! Until you stop and think how they can afford to put those capacitors all over circuit boards. It's because when they're new they only cost a fraction of a cent to buy. So there can't be much in them that's particularly valuable. The people making the parts certainly are not operating at a loss. They're making money too. So if they're selling the part for a fraction of a cent imagine how cheap it is for them to make it. There's not much there in material costs. There can't be. With our present technology it is not worth recovering. Now if we had Star Trek replicators then we'd be getting somewhere. They could disassemble junk on the atomic level. But we can't do that. We basically just have torches and hammers today.
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  41. There's your million dollar idea. Try it and see how feasible it is to do.
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  42. What should we force you to do? I'm sure there must be something. There is always something! Show me the man and I will show you the crime.
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  43. I have never owned a cell phone in my entire life and when my 14 year old TV failed I repaired it.
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  44. I've never owned a cell phone in my entire life. I have no inclination to ever either.
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  45. Nothing they have is chips anyone wants today.
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  46. Who's stopping you from repairing anything? If you have the skill then by all means fix whatever you want to fix. Apple doesn't have hit squads out there that will take you out if you do.
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  47.  @prerecordedresponse9884  the concept of solid state eludes you.
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  48. How much gold and other precious materials do you think are in electronics? Stuff made decades ago had amounts in it. Things change though.
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  49. Why should they? Ebay is incorporated to make as much money as they can.
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  50.  @maxpulido4268  old electronics are by and large trash. There's a reason they're being gotten rid of in the first place. That reason is they're obsolete and have been superseded by more modern products. Another reason is electronics fail. Once failed electronics are not always so easily fixed.
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  51.  @maxpulido4268  shipping e-waste to Ghana addresses the issue. Muwahahaha!
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  52. I'm only a few years ahead of ya.
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  53.  @axelpatrickb.pingol3228  office space costs money. So you cannot afford to have offices filled up with old obsolete equipment.
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  54. Yeah they can go without getting paid for a year. Just like you can go without eating for a year, right?
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  55.  @FowlorTheRooster1990  because you like to throw good money after bad.
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