Comments by "Paul Frederick" (@1pcfred) on "Gamers Nexus" channel.

  1. Get better speakers.
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  2. You'd be none the wiser too.
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  3. I've worked in manufacturing. It's a job. Tedious work builds character.
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  4. Tech Jesus is casting the percentage changers out of the temple!
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  5. Actually there's plenty that is not Googable. The Internet is amazingly brain dead about the time before the Internet existed. Information that simply was not digitized. I have piles of electronic components that the Internet knows absolutely nothing about. Believe me I've looked.
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  6.  @knexfan100  indeed why should they? Anyone that wants the best needs to pay for it.
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  7. Asus owned AsRock 5 years ago so that makes sense.
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  8. You don't think it was the metal chips you got all over the board shorting everything out that killed it?
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  9. Some rats just can't resist the cheese.
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  10. @Zane White I hide cables with my solid steel side panels.
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  11. Yeah it is not like Intel has ever done anything new or different before, right? It is not like they invented the microprocessor or anything like that. One of Intel's founders only invented the integrated circuit. So screw them. FYI Intel has always been a manufacturing company. That's what they do. Intel actually makes stuff. Unlike some other pushy companies.
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  12. What condition is the planet in? It seems like it always has to me. My perspective spans over a half of a century now too.
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  13. This hardware has a github page.
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  14. More like people don't understand TDP and cry.
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  15. They didn't talk about Intel's prototype consciousness swapping device that they both tried out at the show. They're probably under some kind of a NDA with that tech.
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  16. If you study the advent of technology one thing becomes clear, it takes time to develop technology. More than a lot of folks really tend to appreciate. Where's my flying car? If you want to be frustrated become a nuclear physicist. The people that demonstrated fusion are all dead today. Where's that technology applied practically? We might all die too before that becomes a reality.
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  17. I could thumb it down for spreading green globalist propaganda.
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  18.  @amer-du6qh  and BTW you're wrong about peak efficiency too. That's more like at 80-90% of capacity.
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  19. I don't even over clock. I did once and it just wasn't worth it. There was hardly any performance improvement. I figure if I want to go faster I'll get a better CPU.
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  20. Wow AMD made $116 million dollars! It sounds like a lot until you find out that in the same time Intel made $17 billion dollars.
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  21. There's a lot of N2 in our air naturally. 79% of air is nitrogen. So they'll probably be OK. The greater risk is freezing yourself with contact. LN2 is -346F Which is pretty cold. I wouldn't mess with the stuff without some kind of protective gear on. I like my extremities. In fact I like all of my skin and internal organs.
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  22. I don't think the cold has that much of an effect on molecular activity. Not unless you're approaching absolute zero or something. Like you said it has more to do with the dew point of the air itself. That's why static is more prevalent in the cold.
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  23. You're damned right you can thank Trump supporters. We're trying to save this country before it turns into a third world shithole. Which is what our opponents want to happen.
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  24. What can anyone say past performance specs. Tech is at a level now where it cannot be easily examined. It may even be beyond our technology to examine integrated circuits after they've been processed into products? It is not like Intel can just waltz into a competitor's fab and learn all of their secrets. No one is going to just give up their technological advantages. Well, it has happened. I think companies are more savvy about that sort of thing today though. Fortunes hang in the balance.
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  25.  @davidbrennan5  to me cable management means no cable is getting chewed up by a fan blade. If I can get it that good then it's all good.
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  26. The only stupid questions are poorly formulated ones. No one knows everything so there come times when we all need information in the form of answers to our questions.
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  27. If a heat sink is not acting like a radiator then the heat sink is not really doing its job. 300 Watts is 1,000 BTUs an hour too. Heat is a big deal with electronics. That's why we have fans and heat sinks in computers. To deal with the heat and to try to dissipate it. If it weren't for heat we could all be merrily computing away in the Tera Hertz.
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  28. When I saw the price I thought, So that's what I'm going to be running 10 years from now.
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  29. I'd sooner believe the vibration of the drill bit on the board broke a connection someplace. Bond wires inside some ICs are weak. The electromagnetic interference of a power tool is not going to permanently damage electronics. It is not an EMP gun.
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  30.  @pinkchckn  yeah it is not like we're at the end of conventional process improvements either. You think it is easy moving forward from where the industry is at now? Do you have the slightest clue just how small ten nanometers even is? That is like 100 silicon atoms across. Being able to manipulate individual atoms is world record material too. That record is currently held by IBM BTW. They spelled out their logo using 35 xenon atoms with an electron microscope. That process is not practical for mass production though.
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  31. +mxn1948 indeed how dare we hit back? China has been manipulating their currency forever. We're going to do whatever it takes to survive. So excuse us for whatever that may be. Or don't. See what I care.
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  32. I'm waiting a few years.
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  33. 2020 will just be the beginning of Trump's second term.
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  34. I worked in a board assembly house and the only time we ever used ESD was when a customer visited. Other than that we'd stuff boards right on styrofoam sheets. That conductive foam stuff was expensive! Zero Fs were given.
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  35. You should have just built a whole false studio wall. Like a set. Do up the whole corner there. Metal studs are the way to fly in commercial construction too. The inside joke on a commercial site is to hold up a piece of wood. Because no one uses wood. It's all metal studs with chop saws and snips. On a chop saw you can cut a whole bundle of studs at once.
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  36. That's about the size of it. AMD comes up with the designs then they have fab plant make the chips. AMD cannot afford to build a fab themselves. A new fab these days would cost about 10 times what AMD is worth. That's something else that wasn't mentioned in this video. Intel hasn't really invested in building a new fab for themselves in a while now. But they have the cash. Heck Intel could break ground on 10 new fabs today. But it is still money. I guess they'd rather spend it on executive bonuses?
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  37. Fuck off. How's that French for ya?
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  38.  @russianbot8576  the only game I play is Doom. That's old school Doom 1 and 2. With mods and megawads. Runs great on Linux and the variety is virtually infinite.
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  39. I've operated the kind of machinery that gets things very flat. It is called a surface grinder. The cap on CPUs is stamped out sheet metal. That's not going be or stay terribly flat. Heatsinks are fly cut if they're lucky. Fly cutting is not nearly as accurate as grinding is. You don't see more precision machining of these components because one it costs a lot and two like you said you wouldn't get much out of it. So it would not be worth the added expense. That's why we use heat sink compound instead.
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  40.  Brad Viviviyal  for what? You should be happy Trump is the President considering the alternatives. If Hillary got in the world would be a smoking cinder right now. Global peace at last! Because everyone would be dead!
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  41.  @2masMusik  sometimes we subcontracted for a mil spec coms outfit. I guess when they didn't have enough in house workers to meet orders? But they had enough QC people to plant them behind us while we worked. I never asked how that worked. I just soldered. They didn't give a rats ass about static either. They were very particular about the soldering though. They always wanted to be able to see the form of the conductor under the solder. They'd carry on about it incessantly. OK OK less solder. I don't have a solder certificate. Don't want one. I know I can solder. I never thought there was much to it really. But I've seen other folks struggle trying to do it themselves.
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  42. Some things you're just better off not getting involved with.
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  43. AMD has nothing. AMD has not made a chip themselves in 10 years. They sold their fab in 2008.
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  44. Groups tend to have low collective IQ.
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  45. That's why the first AMD CPU is 14th on the list of top CPUs. The other 13 ahead of it are all made by Intel. Oh and Intel's CPUs use less Watts too.
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  46. Advocating consumerism is unconscionable. There should be nothing normal about it.
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  47. Better sound is achieved by using better equipment. There is really no replacement for good speakers. I also upgraded my amplifier and went to digital out too. That helped using the same speakers. I don't do Windows so I don't know what can happen there. I use the Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (ALSA). Which is free.
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  48. I wouldn't bet on it. AMD can't write a graphics driver to save themselves. I think they're more interested in CPU work for servers anyways.
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  49. Let's do some math. 200 Watts at 12V is 16.67 amps I = P/E. Split over 3 wires that is 5.5 amps a wire. 22 gauge wire can handle 7 amps in chassis wiring. With facts and brains you don't have to rely on your feels for these sorts of things.
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  50. You think cost scales linearly with performance? Where does that happen?
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  51.  @tgreaux5027  if you wish to run a charity no one is stopping you. By the same token you cannot begrudge anyone else from maximizing their earning potential either. Some realize that hay must be made while the sun is shining. Someone could come along tomorrow with a product that makes what Nvidia sells obsolete. Then they only have the money they've made up to that point. It could end at any time. The more likely scenario is companies destroying themselves through poor business decisions. Often it just takes one misstep and it's all down the drain. But if you can make a little extra and manage to sock it away maybe you can survive some misfortune? Ultimately is about survival. Cash is king too. Personally I think Nividia just about hanged themselves with RTX. Instead of chasing framerates they went after and delivered raytracing which no one wanted. They're just damned lucky those lemon cards still perform fairly decent. On a less firm financial footing they may have gone belly up with a misstep like that though. Their present overly long line up may even be a reflection of lackluster sales and them trying to boost sales and cash flow?
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  52. With mouse pads you just have to think outside the box. You can use them as more than just mouse pads. They make good isolators too. I use the thick rubber and cloth ones under bench grinders. Then it's almost like they're bolted down.
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  53. @N Diesal I switched in 1995. Running Windows makes me ill.
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  54. What is in your CPU cache that you're so worried about anyone getting a hold of? If you're that paranoid why are you even on the Internet? You probably run Windows anyways. That shit is transmitting everything and anything on your system to God knows where.
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  55.  @tisjester  steel is alloyed iron. When you look at the periodic table there is no Steel entry on it.
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  56. Someday hopefully we'll develop a new technology that is just as revolutionary as solid state was from the vacuum tube. Cores is growing out. That is sprawl. Clock speed is growing up like skyscrapers. They're both growth but up is a lot more impressive to behold than out is.
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  57.  @adamnizami8770  I am not entering any of my PCs into a beauty contest. They just need to run. With the case on they all look alike to me anyways.
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  58.  @TheHalfGlassFullGuy  liquid metal does more than corrode metals. Gallium can migrate into metals.
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  59. How close do you imagine any trace is to a mounting hole? There are design rules used in laying out board art. I for one would imagine the rules used to layout a 2080ti are rather comprehensive and strict. The keep out gap around mounting holes is likely substantial on all layers too.
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  60. Methinks you're missing the point.
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  61. But what if these cards really kick ass and then everyone wants one? Prices will skyrocket and many will be left out in the cold. Buy now!
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  62. I guess if I got those results I'd have a different opinion. As it was when I let my motherboard OC it just went 200 MHz faster. I don't really have the CPU cooler to do any better than that, or an unlocked CPU either. Someday I might get a better CPU for this system if I see them drop in price to a value I figure is worthwhile. I'll more likely just build a faster system by then though.
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  63. If rising prices are your biggest problem then I'd say you're doing OK.
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  64. At least they took the lamp in the corner out of the frame.
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  65. You don't understand diminishing returns. Not everything in this world is plotted on a linear curve.
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  66. AMD is just a fabless design house today. The people that founded Intel invented the integrated circuit. So I would not count them out quite yet.
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  67.  @brianmccullough4578  I like the sound of the engine when I'm driving. I always had old beaters so I never got in the habit of listening to a radio driving being as they never had working radios. Now even when I'm driving a car that has a radio I never turn it on. I just listen to the road noises. That's my soundtrack when I'm driving.
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  68. Yeah I disable spectre and meltdown. I don't do anything where that is going to affect me. The difference in performance is noticeable.
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  69. As a corporation interested in making money Intel does not concern itself with what a few consumers want. You'll buy whatever they're offering and you'll be happy with it. Or you won't. It makes no difference to them. Amazon and Google will buy all the chips they can make. They'll in turn use those devices to make even more fortunes.
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  70.  @0x0bee0bee  be happy in your work
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  71. The sheet rock is not stuck right to the concrete block. There are metal fur strips in there. But yeah if it was me I'd build false set walls. Which in a building are called temporary walls. For a start the gantry they built is OK though. Might want to paint those 2x4s flat black or something so they don't stand out so much.
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  72. Second place is just the first loser.
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  73. Nvidia has a product for everybody. AMD is just for people who hate the planet. 300 Watts for a video card? AMD must think they're making Easy Bake oven elements. My whole PC doesn't use 300W.
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  74.  @rileyfenley522  Carbon Dioxide (CO2) doesn't bind. Carbon Monoxide (CO) does. If CO2 bound we'd all be dead. Being as we try to exhale the stuff when we breathe. Carbon Monoxide on the other hand is a very different gas.
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  75.  @pagatryx5451  Microsoft does not have to try to beat Linux. They've trounced on Linux. Over 80% of the market runs Windows. Linux enjoys a less than 2% adoption rate. I can see a lot of people liking Windows 11. It'll do OK despite what some are saying here now. I bet most of them will run it anyways.
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  76. my Debian Linux loads in seven tenths of a second.
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  77. I wouldn't expect Intel to bounce back for quite some time. But a few months ago Intel invested several times more into their fabs than AMD is worth. That investment should begin to pay off when all of that capacity comes online in less than two years.
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  78.  @odisy64  so a service for homeless people and truck drivers then. Got it.
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  79. Within reason ESD is not a big issue with hobby computing.
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  80.  @NoGufff  I have some die grinders. They're kind of expensive. For a cheap rotary tool drywall zip cutters are handy. I like the extra power. I've had a couple Dremels fail on me due to having anemic performance.
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  81. AMD was never king. They're not even a second fiddle to Intel.
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  82. I don't know if I'd call it huge but there is definitely a difference. I am running TOSlink to a Sony Bluuray 5.1 surround into some upgraded speakers let's call them.
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  83. My audio system cost me $26 in total. I bought most of it used. So you're the one making assumptions. Don't let the low price fool you though because new it all would have cost about 20 times more.
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  84. So my PC will be out smoking crack but it won't get busted for it? I'm not entirely sure how I feel about that. Less than good. That's for sure.
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  85.  @chuckthomas1872  if they have a solid product it'll do OK. There's no GPUs in the low or mid range these days even worth considering. Something for the value conscious. I'm not going to spend $1,800 on a video card. Never gonna happen. I wouldn't mind getting something half decent for around $200 though.
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  86. We call it the driving for dollars program.
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  87. Don't worry scro. There are plenty of 'tards out there living really kick ass lives.
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  88. Intel already has their own Linux distribution. They even build it with their own high performance compiler. It is supposed to really be something else. It is called ClearOS. There's a website and everything. Go check it out.
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  89.  @SireDragonChester  sound could be better on Linux. But as it is it is not bad once you get it working. I don't know how much development is really going into audio these days. Because it does work. Can be a bit of a trick to get it to work though. There's things you need to know. There's howtos online that explain how to troubleshoot audio issues. The quality of that info varies. If you work with it you can get it working. Just takes some doing. And that's the nature of Linux. BTW I use Realtek ALC892 hardware in this PC and it is playing right now. It is always playing. Otherwise my amp powers down due to inactivity. So I have a script that just randomly plays music from my collection running all the time. Right now it is playing Free - All Right Now.mp3 Which is all right by me. Let me tell you all about it now.
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  90. It is rare to find women in the tech industry.
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  91. Asustek is Asus. I heard they sold Asrock off a while back though. According to Wikipedia Pegatron owns Asrock now. So I guess I heard right. Asrock was originally spun off by Asus to compete in the consumer market against other low end manufacturers. Now people think more of them. Maybe it is better today?
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  92.  @PatrikKron  I've had a lot of computers over a long time and folks have given me mouse pads over the years too. Sometimes I've even bought them. For some design they had or maybe feature? And mouse pads don't really wear out. I guess they can. But some I've had for decades now.
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  93.  @PatrikKron  because I bought more PCs. Every PC needs a mouse pad. I always have more than one.
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  94.  @AugustusBohn0  forget Proton run locally compiled native games!
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  95. Being larger than all of their competitors combined Intel will be the last standing.
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  96. Where's the profit in that?
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  97. PSU specs are largely horsecrap anyways. Most PSUs cannot deliver near their specced Watts continuously. No one that fails to understand margins, derating and headroom is going to have a very good time with electronics. Your "430W" PSU likely can only deliver 380W continuously on its best day. Which is why if you actually need 350W you put a 500W supply in. Though you'll be sacrificing some efficiency for durability. Let's say you can run the 100 meter dash in 20 seconds. How'd you like to do that all day long? By the end of the day trying you'd be dead. PSUs same deal.
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  98.  @amer-du6qh  but they're not rated that way or they're out and out lies. People test these things. It is the exception rather than the rule for consumer grade electronics to live up to their specifications. But you believe whatever you want to believe.
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  99. It really depends on the receptacle whether the screw is grounded or not. In most residential installs they will be. But there is such a thing as isolated ground outlets. You see them in hospitals.
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  100.  @H8ts  when you floor it your car burns more gas. When you OC your PC burns more electricity. Why are you so surprised? Tell me how happy would you be if Intel CPUs burst into flames the moment they hit 96W? That would certainly keep power consumption in check now wouldn't it?
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  101.  @LowTechPC  the less they know the more it will appear to be working. It is only when you scratch the surface that you might discover some anomalies. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
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  102. Probably not considering how much power these cards use. Some of these cards require two eight pin power connectors and consume 250 Watts. My whole PC doesn't use 250 Watts.
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  103.  @LukeHimself  the great outdoors is a pretty big place. You should not generalize experiences. I know where I live can be extremely quiet. I've even been in Manhattan when it was quiet. Was right after a blizzard and the whole City was completely paralyzed. It was surreal. Today I know what it sounds like when a tree falls in the woods too. They do make a sound. I've heard corn grow too.
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  104.  @LukeHimself  it is quiet enough here for me to hear my blood in my yard. Which is the gold standard of it's quiet. I like to call it mighty peaceful. You get a good night's sleep here. Or a nap if you'd like to take one of those. I think I could go for a nap myself now.
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  105.  @jbmw16  https://github.com/intel/compute-runtime
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  106. Your problems are all software related. Run an OS that can multitask. This is blazing fast https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summit_(supercomputer) and it doesn't do Windows.
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  107. Having worked in the business of commercial renovation they could use some help. The whole job should not have taken more than a few weeks to complete. The demo phase should have been done in two days. I'm not seeing more work than that. WTF is that track still doing attached to the deck? Strip it out!
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  108. Two fiddy
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  109. Laptop audio blows. End of discussion.
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  110.  @dosgos  headphones can be real good but I have sensitive ears. I don't like stuff on them. I do appreciate an actual sound system too. Just the spacious sound actual satellite speaker cabinets deliver. I'm pretty proud of the sound system I have on my PC. It ain't much but I think it has a nice sound. Certainly does it for me. I use a Blu-ray player as an amplifier and the only annoying thing is it turns itself off after a period of inactivity. So I just run a player on shuffle playing my whole MP3 collection all the time. If I want other sound I pause it. Otherwise my PC is always rocking tunes. Turns out constant tunes is nice. All stuff I like and it's commercial free.
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  111.  @dosgos  I made my center channel speaker out of two 2.5" Altec Lancing drivers I pulled out of some PC speakers. They have a nice sound to them. Audiophile would be lost on me. But if I wasn't happy with what I have I'd be getting something else. For what it is I'm good though.
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  112. Damn you're a dip shit. This is a prototype not a retail product.
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  113.  @Aelfraed26  or people that just don't want to draw many Watts.
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  114. Tweaker has meant the same thing for quite some time. That's what we called anyone too wound up on stimulants even back in the early 80s. Then you're tweaking.
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  115.  AmusiaPrussia  you said, "Steel made with no impurities does not need to be folded." But that is not why they fold steel. They actually fold steel to add materials to the steel. Kind of like mixing it. So one piece of steel can exhibit different properties. Namely toughness along with hardness. You cannot get those two attributes together with "pure" steel. You get either one or the other. You can have either a soft steel that resists breaking or a hard steel that is brittle. But if you fold a soft and a hard steel together then you can have both. Kind of. Steel is disrupted to drive impurities out of it. Classically with a hammer on an anvil. In more modern times it is done with rollers.
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  116. Compared to their mismanagement too from what I've heard.
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  117. Actual performance has been driven by Moore's Law. But we're at a point where it is not as easy to keep going anymore. Look at the advance of the industry like folding a piece of paper over and over. Initially it isn't so hard but after a number of folds it just gets tougher and tougher to make the bend. At it's core Moore's Law was all about shrinking the pitch of parts on a die. That's it. That is where virtually all performance gains have come from. Halve the pitch and double your performance. Now they can't even reduce the pitch by 50%. Up to about 10 years ago they halved the pitch like clockwork. Then it got hard to keep doing that. Since about 22-24nm it has gotten really hard to reduce the pitch of parts. Which is why the industry is stagnating. Their path to increased performance is blocked for them going forward. They just can't make that hard fold anymore. They've actually resorted to what amounts to lying about pitch lately. In order to keep the fantasy of the good times going.
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  118.  @adamnizami8770  hide from who?
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  119. The laws of physics do not care what you want.
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  120.  @TheRedneckPreppy  It was a while ago I installed it but I think it did come in a binary. I only installed it because someone on IRC said they couldn't get it to run. The easiest way for me to figure out what's going on is to just try to get it to run myself. Then once I did I never uninstalled it. They were missing some so files. I ran strace on the installer and figured out what they were. Once I got it running that's the last I saw of it. Looked pretty involved to me though. The binary is linked to 133 shared objects. $ ldd /opt/resolve/bin/resolve | wc -l 133
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  121.  @Tallnerdyguy  Any cooler will be adequate for the performance you receive. But if you want more then get more. Thermal throttling has been a thing like forever.
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  122. Pay and pay and pay!
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  123. Peasant
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  124. CampyCamper  silver tarnishes a lot. Perhaps reactive means something different though?
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  125. That's like 400 million doses into 300 patients.
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  126. I'm hoping in 10 years the price will come down to something I find reasonable.
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  127. No I mean there is nothing under the copper ring around the hole plus some space beyond that.
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  128.  @SaturnusDK  AMD has no process. AMD has not made anything in over 10 years. They bowed out at 45 nanometers. All AMD does is design work today. They have other fabs make their chips for them. TSMC makes all of their 7nm chips.
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  129.  @pino_de_vogel  let's be frank, 5 GHz is pretty good.
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  130. @blitzwing1 Intel got on top because they built the mountain they're on top of. Robert Noyce invented the integrated circuit. He was also a founder of Intel. Then Intel went on to produce the first microprocessor. So when you're first you are also on top of a heap of one.
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  131. I bet you'll probably never buy a multi-million dollar super sports car either. That doesn't mean they should not be made or no one will though.
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  132. My point has nothing to do with math. It has to do with the production and availability of premium products. The better something is the more it tends to cost.
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  133. The consumer PC market is finished now. It has been that way for years. Average people do not have PCs anymore. They have smartphones or tablets. Companies catering to a market that no longer exists will put their own existence in jeopardy.
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  134. That chair and table set does make a powerful statement.
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  135. I doubt it. If they didn't come for 8 they're not coming for anything.
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  136. Well we did invent electricity. So you're welcome.
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  137. It will be bad for us if we do not protect ourselves. The ripple effects of that would be bad for others too.
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  138. I do thank him. Right now the USA has the best economy ever.
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  139.  @GamersNexus  I'm looking forward to the data you can collect to back up your hypothesis. Color me somewhat skeptical when it comes to your noise building theory. There may actually be something else going on when fans are running next to each other that amplifies the sound than just the noise they each individually make adding up. You should setup an experiment where you can speed control all three fans and tune them. It could be ground breaking research.
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  140. If you think this is bad just wait until there's no food.
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  141. And you're still going off BS numbers. Unless you have Steve come to your house and measure the temperature you're getting. Because in the end that's all that really matters.
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  142. As far as any company is concerned the best possible price is as much as they can get.
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  143. Intel makes more money than the rest of the chip manufacturers on the planet combined. You think they're scared they'll run out of room to keep all of their money?
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  144.  @lt4324  I'd like to have a 4790K but they cost too much. Lately the price on them has actually increased 31%. So not headed in a direction beneficial to me. I actually want a newer system with nvme and USB 3.1 DDR4 etc.
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  145. Transient free line current is always better. Though how far a UPS goes towards cleaning up line current is another question.
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  146. None of this means beans. The only thing that matters is the temperature you can manage to achieve.
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  147. You can get a mirror finish. What is hard is keeping the surface planar flat though. Two warped mirrors are not going to make very good contact.
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  148. All Intel cares about is that their chips don't burst into flames. They have thermal sensors in there that make sure it doesn't happen too. Past that they're going to guarantee certain minimum specs. What anyone can do beyond that is entirely up to and on them.
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  149. Perhaps the concept of diminishing returns eludes you? The further up you go the harder it gets to go any further up. Costs escalate exponentially with difficulty. To go 10% faster it costs 100% more. No surprises there.
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  150.  @formbi  Intel is a hardware company. They just distribute software to sell more hardware. If they can get the DG2 right I'm buying one.
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  151.  @timowagner1329  you do know that every atom has electrons? Electricity is electrons. Atoms shed electrons and electrons stick on atoms. As a charge builds up like polarities repel. Let's say you start building up a charge on your arm. Eventually those electrons are going to just migrate onto your "insulated" glove. It'll be too crowded on your arm for all of them. So they'll repel each other and move about that way. It is weird stuff.
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  152. The only thing Intel is falling behind in is their own too optimistic timetable. Intel's competitors may be making the same mistake themselves too. Talk is cheap. Actions speak louder than words. So I'll wait and see what really happens.
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  153. Can't boot Windows? Now that's what I call a fix!
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  154. Ambiguous is a synonym for nebulous. So yes?
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  155. Well bang a gong and bark at the moon down in dogpatch why don't ya?
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  156. To a point I don't think it matters how much noise a truck makes. I mean they have jake brakes in them. So maybe Mack is just being a bit anal about it?
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  157. The way that renovation job is going I'm not surprised.
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  158. By the end of the video Steve pretty much builds a case where a wireless wrist strap could work. But if what he said was true then how come there's lightning during thunderstorms? Air is pretty moist then. Lightning is a really large electrostatic discharge. Your PC gets hit by that and it's kaput. Wrist strap or no wrist strap.
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  159.  @strawberyyicecreamdream216  being a natural phenomena I think the potential of lightning varies. Some bolts are definitely stronger than others are.
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  160. Sued for what? A developer can make any kind of software they want. You don't like it, then don't run it.
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  161. This is library
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  162. That's a pallet jack.
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  163. You're not really missing any dazzling graphical cinematography in this video anyways. Heck this could have been released sound only and it would have just enhanced the experience.
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  164. What they did was far easier than picking up rental gear and dropping it off again. Or even waiting around for it to be delivered and picked up. If you want it really easy you can just hire millwrights to come in and take care of everything for you. Some sweat equity can pay dividends though.
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  165. Nvidia is living rent free in your mind.
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  166.  @tonimaunde  the laughs are that you all run Windows. Core 0: +19.0°C (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) Nothing runs cooler than a Tux penguin does.
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  167. The trouble with your plan is the center section of the pallet still would have been wedged under the cabinet. The casters were the same height as the pallet was. So they had to do it how they did it. They had to elevate the cabinet without the pallet jack under the pallet. They did that by blocking up the casters and taking the pallet jack out. And it worked
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  168. Like GPU manufacturers need Norway's business. Stay out in the cold fools.
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  169.  @aron_e39b77  I understand better than you'll ever know. Nvidia does not need any consumer sales to stay profitable. They can just sell to commercial entities and do well. In fact it'd be more lucrative than dealing with pauper whiners like you. Which is pretty much what they're doing.
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  170. Yeah no one is going to understand it anyways.
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  171. Screw that. We need to develop the next process and put silicon out of business! That'd fix them. Graphene FTW
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  172. How is touching the ground going to kill you?
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  173. We need a dollars per FPS chart. Make it happen Tech Jesus. Cast the money changers out of the temple!
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  174.  @Viewer19  most views happen in a relatively short amount of time. Especially when it comes to time sensitive topics. Weeks from now few people will be watching this video. Those that are should know they've gotten in late too. In any event the data remains relevant even when it is out of date. Sometimes we want to know what things used to cost.
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  175.  @Viewer19  we'll just have to agree to disagree on all of these points. Because you're wrong. You aren't the only person on the Internet that will be wrong today either. So your mother was wrong when she told you that you're special too. This article BTW debunks your plenty of views bullshit https://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-the-lifecycle-of-a-youtube-video-2010-5 But everyone already knows that except you.
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  176.  @Viewer19  liez! Everyone knows Natasha ran off with Boris Badenov. https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1200/1*D-vtWDvvdXOuEMvXtrbV4w.jpeg
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  177. The best is reserved for those who can afford it.
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  178. World Domination!
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  179. I never heard them say that. What do you think mining farm racks are filled with?
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  180.  @fobusas  I'm sure it is hard to determine. No one said it wasn't making any impact. There's a lot of reasons supply is messed up right now though.
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  181. If AMD earned 14 times what they just did they still would be behind Intel. So AMD has a ways to go before they're caught up to Intel.
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  182. Companies contract work where they can. With 80% of the X86 CPU market Intel really doesn't have to make chips for anyone but themselves.
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  183. I would not discount the company that invented the whole industry quite yet. Put all of Intel's competitors together and Intel is bigger than them still. They're not called Chipzilla for nothing.
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  184.  @clark85  fat people are jolly people.
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  185. If someone wants to use a $30 PSU with $3,000 worth of PC gear that's on them. You can't fix stupid.
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  186.  @ResilientME  you had me at poor choice.
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  187. Totally practical build as long as there's some frosty brews in that cooler.
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  188. If you are worried about hitting a wire you can use a Non Contact Voltage device to locate any cabling that may be where you are working.
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  189. I was at a ReStore today. Interior doors are $5 a piece. They got loads of them.
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  190.  @elu5ive  proving that could turn out to be a rather mixed bag.
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  191. Because we understand performance parts?
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  192. I love how days later no one had swept the floor yet.
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  193.  @GamersNexus  very good.
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  194.  @SolarianStrike  I wouldn't count on Leidenfrost to protect me from the real frost because I'm just not lucky that way.
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  195.  @bliviont  Is CO2 that big of a problem? CO is because it binds with your blood. CO2 doesn't really do that though. I think CO2 levels have to rise about 200% for it to become a breathing issue? Which isn't as much as it seems. That is due to CO2 atmosphere levels being so low to begin with. Something like 0.02% (perhaps due to ACC it is 0.025% now?) You get up to 2 or 3% of CO2 and it's bad. This highlights where percentages and statistics can be somewhat misleading.
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  196.  @tiarkrezar  I have a 330 cuft argon tank sitting here next to me so do tell.
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  197.  @rileyfenley522  who'd think a single atom would be the difference between life and death?
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  198.  @tiarkrezar  argon is an inert gas that can asphyxiate you.
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  199.  @tiarkrezar  well I don't leave the gas in my tank. It doesn't do me any good in there. So you can say I inevitably vent it off as I use it.
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  200.  @bliviont  I though theatrical fog was atomized mineral spirits or something?
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  201. No one said they were ending support. When hardware gets made legacy that just means it gets no new features. It still works like it always did. It just won't do anything new.
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  202. It's fine. It wasn't bad to begin with.
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  203. I think the contractors working for Steve are already taking him for every dollar he has. He should have hired a consultant that knows how things work. Because what I'm seeing ain't it. I did a lot of commercial renovation. Steve even thinking any of those walls in that place could be load bearing shows his level of knowledge.
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  204.  @jonathaneriksson9273  it should not go over bid unless you ask for more. If the contractor did not know that's his problem.
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  205. I think Windows is the better choice for a lot of gaming. Not sure what NV surround is? Sounds like graphics adapter sound? If that's the case I like the sound my Linux system does.
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  206.  @nils_r  Linux supports multiple monitors. I am using two right now. They act like one big screen too. nv in the context of Linux means the Nvidia open source driver to me. You definitely do not want to use that. It's just there so you can load up another driver. Either Nosferatu (I hate its name and wouldn't use it either) or the binary one. If you want to game with Nvidia on Linux you have to use the binary. End of story. Basically as of now if you want to game on Linux you have to use the Nvidia binary driver period. Although I'm holding out hope for Intel's DG2 discrete graphics adapter. But we'll see. It is a less than ideal situation.
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  207.  @nils_r  that's because Nvidia does not use Xinerama and if you use Xinerama with Nvidia then it does not work. Nvidia uses their own proprietary system called TwinView. I've had it setup in the past where Quake spanned both of my screens. But what I did to manage that I can't remember. It was a very long time ago. The port of Quake I used to use got woke and went broke. All I can suggest is you play Doom. It's a better game. I'm going to go kill some demons right now. Play with the Project Brutality mod. Get a decent megawad too. Right now I'm playing Alien Vendetta Black Edition.
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  208.  @nils_r  I have not heard about nvidia-xinerama. Last I heard TwinView was different. That file you're referring to is pretty old itself. They're up to version 460 now. http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/aarch64/460.84/README/index.html I'm only on version 390.138 myself. Shows you how much I keep up. I think you're just going to have to keep editing your X conf file until you get something that works. It's going to be a game of blind Rubik's Cube. Is that it? I wish I could be of more help.
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  209. I've thought about setting up SLI but I have wondered if it actually improves performance. This video seems to confirm some of my doubts. SLI only works when it works.
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  210. I'm using wood from a bed I found on the side of the road that I screwed to some other scrap wood I had laying around. I did polyurethane it all though.
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  211. Just take a hammer to the glass panel. Problem solved!
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  212. Sew what?
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  213. After a bit I realized this review was a waste of my time.
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  214. Steve isn't a carpenter.
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  215. Troubleshooting is not hard if you know the rules. There's methodology to it. The problems most have stem from their own biases. They "know" what's wrong at the outset. And then they're wrong. At the outset you cannot assume anything. Test and observe what's in front of you.
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  216. Generations today are not what they used to be. So you have to expect a reduction in overall performance due to those limitations too. Moore's Law ended in 2005.
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  217. Let's look at clock frequency increases. In 1995 the top CPU was 200 MHz 10 years later in 2005 you could get a 3.8 GHz CPU In 2015 a i7 4960x ran in turbo boost at 4 GHz. So you tell me Sherlock how come we weren't running at 80 GHz in 2015? Because if process shrinks had kept pace that's what we should have been doing stock on air by then. Something obviously happened.
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  218. We did two things to make electronics faster, we shrank them, and we got them to run on less voltage. We pushed all of that as far as we could. That's why clock speeds have not risen lately. We've run out of where the speed increase comes from. Because we can't make parts much smaller or run them on any less voltage. If we could we would and you'd see speed increase. But that's not what we see today.
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  219. Whatever you want to believe. Facts have proven what you're saying to be wrong though.
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  220. die area size increase is a fact too.
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  221. If area is increasing then density is not going up. Just parts count is going up. When Moore formulated his Law he had node shrinks in mind. He also knew the process could not go on forever. Well here we are at the short end of the stick now.
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  222. It is obvious to me that you simply do not appreciate the difficulties involved in manufacturing integrated circuitry. There were substantial financial rewards for those that pushed the technology so progress was rapid. We are so far along now that even money cannot ease the journey anymore. You can plunk down 10 billion dollars today and not get a process shrink out of the investment. Intel with virtually limitless financial resources is two years behind their node advancement. Yet that tells you nothing.
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  223. I have not lost anything. I have just tried to show you what you cannot see. Unless you can see something 4,545 times smaller than the width of a human hair, that is. Which is about as small as we can make transistors today. It may be about as small as we'll ever be able to? That is slicing things pretty thin. It is only about 100 atoms across even.
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  224. Do you really think anyone can manipulate billions of transistors individually? Please. Try not to be so droll.
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  225. You're funny. You seem to think the laws of quantum physics do not apply to the real world. Keep the faith.
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  226. That doesn't always work. Then a product often becomes a specialty item as opposed to a common mass market item. With a special high price attached to it as well. It is an economy of scale thing.
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  227. Life should be about more than just providing for basic needs. We are sentient beings with all that goes with that. Even my cat and dog seem to enjoy the extras.
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  228. Not all of them. Many people manage to kill graphics cards. Which is a top reason why people find themselves in the market for new hardware in the first place. I've even killed a card myself. A bad PSU took that whole system out.
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  229. You should build a video card someday and see how much it costs you to do.
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  230. No they're all just spouting numbers. TSMC's 7 nm process was no smaller than Intel's 14 nm.
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  231.  @odisy64  what do ranchers and people living in the mountains or desert need the Internet for? I cannot see what cat pictures could possibly do for those folks.
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  232.  @odisy64  I never said I needed the Internet. I do not need the Internet. I do not think anyone needs the Internet. We all got along just fine before the Internet existed. In fact I'd say we got along better than we do today. I liked you a lot better before I ever heard of you.
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  233. It depends on sales what chips get sold as what SKUs. In the end the name of the game is to sell chips and make money. All manufacturers have low ball labeled product in order to cash in though. Which is where overclocking came from.
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  234. Wonder no more. Because that's exactly what Speed Step does. These CPUs are capable of monitoring themselves by the billionth of a second. Intel is tapping into that capability too. They have been for a long time now.
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  235.  @piotrj333  are you talking about p states?
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  236. I fail to see what the big deal is with an Internet connection during an install. It's how I install Linux. I use net image which is like 28 MB to boot up then get all the software I need off the net. Works good. It just doesn't make sense to get a full repo of packages when I don't want most of them. I'll never install them or even know they exist. When I install I get the most up to date packages too. I don't have to do an update right after I install either. Which is nice.
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  237.  @iClone101  Windows 10 runs without an Internet connection, doesn't it? So they're not forcing anyone to have an account. People are merely choosing to connect to the Internet. Just like they're choosing to run Windows. Decisions have consequences. Like Apple says, Decide better. OK maybe they never said that.
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  238.  @iamdarkyoshi  and you're all using thermal compound wrong to begin with.
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  239.  @tek_lynx4225  Dremel is a proprietary eponym for rotary tool today, like saying Xerox to copy something is. When you say Dremel everyone knows what you mean. I've had less than good luck with actual Dremel brand rotary tools myself. I've busted a couple of them over the years. I have a couple B&D RTX rotary tools now that I like better. I got them for $10 a piece too. So if one blows up no biggie.
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  240. Show me where it says Intel CPU uses 1000W
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  241. Are you sure those thermal pads were really 9mm? Three eighths of an inch is a lot more round a number.
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  242. I pay extra to get parts that don't light up.
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  243. We have cannons today with 150 mile range. They can drop a shell in a bucket at that distance too. BTW cannon shot was never lead. Cannon balls were cast iron.
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  244. You can hear it? Tough!
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  245. Shill Shack? Steve would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for you meddling kids!
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  246. Too late for what? Intel's doing things no one else is. Like supporting my OS platform. I run Linux and Intel has had drivers for Iris in the kernel for over a year now. But I need more performance than this card can deliver so I'm holding out for the DG2. If it can beat my 750ti then it'll be the first new graphics adapter I've bought in 20 years. I didn't get my 750 new.
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  247. Space... The final frontier. These are the voyages of the Gamer Nexus!
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  248. It is Steve and the people that follow him that don't get it.
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  249. I enabled XMP on my system and my RAM benchmarked slower so then I disabled it again. CPUs are on demand frequency today so what they're clocked at doesn't matter. It is going to change anyways.
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  250.  @nikoyochum6974  what does being tied have to do with the price of tea in China? There's a reason CPU speed is given as base and turbo today.
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  251.  @darreno1450  I like to think I have somewhat of a clue. Must be why I run Seasonic PSUs. The heart of your PC. I don't run AMD anything. It's all blue and green for me. Once Intel releases their discrete graphics adapter it may be all blue then. We'll have to see how pricing is. I know their Linux support is second to none. I don't do Windows either.
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  252.  @darreno1450  Intel's founder Robert Noyce invented the monolithic integrated circuit. So Intel created the game. They are also the only vertically integrated CPU manufacturer on the planet today too. Which BTW they also invented. Intel made the world's first microprocessor. It is fair to say that no player has been more influential than Intel has been. So I would not count them out quite yet.
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  253. If people see what the new cards cost and know they can't afford them they're going to buy what they can afford. With stocks dwindling and demand up that drives prices up too.
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  254. It means Microsoft is still ripping their customers off.
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  255.  @imblackmagic1209  Linux has always been user friendly. It's just choosy about who its friends are!
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  256. There's always more cheap seats than good ones.
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  257. They're made by US companies manufacturing overseas. So yeah kinda. I mean we did invent electricity. So there's that too. BTW you're welcome.
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  258.  @2000cobraguy  if a card uses 300 Watts find a more efficient card. FFS what do you need anything like that for? My whole system doesn't draw 300 W. Who are you the power company CEO? Or is that your Dad?
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  259.  @exk4  if it isn't glowing or on fire it is not a problem. I just measured some harness cable I pulled off a PSU I scrapped and it appears to be 16 gauge to me. For chassis wiring 16 gauge will handle 22 amps. So that is 192 Watts a wire at 12 Volts. There's 3 power conductors in an 8 pin GPU connector. So the cable should handle 576 Watts. If anyone's GPU is pulling more power than that they need to reevaluate some of their life choices. Basically people that think it is a problem are ignorant. They're running with their feels rather than facts.
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  260. +joescalon there are people where money is no object. They simply want the best, and will pay whatever they have to in order to get it. The amount is immaterial to them.
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  261. That is because AMD is never on the top of the scale. AMD is a knock off also ran company.
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  262. If you think those numbers mean anything then you clearly do not know what you are talking about. Intel invented the microprocessor.
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  263. I am interested in Intel's GPU offering. I run Linux so I have a special reason to be excited about things. Intel's Linux support is second to none. They're true believers.
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  264. I just want to play my Edison wax cylinders in my PC! I already bought them after all. What you're asking for is even more ridiculous than that. You want an entirely different binary. Two for the price of one!
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  265. I would like to see some build quality material. A la Johnny Guru style. Like what brand filter capacitors are in it, and what the soldering is like. Just a shot of what is inside the PSU case would be nice. That's what you don't get to see before you buy something. Also it would be nice if you could measure the gauge of wire and if it is even copper or not. A lot of stuff coming out of China today is copper plated aluminum wire. You can tell by burning some of the conductor inside the insulation with a lighter flame. If it shrivels and twists up like burning hair it is copper plated. Which is kind of crap. Solid copper wire will just glow. You can scrape the copper coating off with a sharp blade and see the silver aluminum underneath the plating if you look really closely too. But the burn test is easier and more entertaining.
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  266. I think Acer should be cast into the pit of Hellfire. To then suffer eternal torment and damnation. I'm not sure if it'd make up for what they did to me but it'd make me feel somewhat better knowing that was their fate. They're lying crooks.
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  267. No way. They're lazy like Susan is. Gender privilege.
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  268. You have to use conductive paste in the socket!
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  269. Yeah but why'd it take them so long to make fans in a decent color? That tan and brown is disgusting. They get some kind of a discount on that on that plastic resin because no one else wants it? Fans are supposed to be black.
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  270.  @colonelbubble  I don't know if color is the biggest criticism anyone can make. I would say that Noctua is about the most expensive gear going. I have Arctic fans and they do the job. For a quarter the price.
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  271. On Gordon's advise I dropped $500 into my mailbox and I wrote Navi on it. I mean why waste an envelope? Just buy it.
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  272. The whole PC market is really going places I am not interested in heading myself. It took me a while to find a boring case with no RGB, Transformers styling or glass side. I love my cheap Antec VSK4000E case though. It was like $28 shipped from Walmart.
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  273. That one is making you a little seasick is it?
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  274. it keeps the roaches living in your shroud happy.
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  275. Ohm states that current equals voltage divided by resistance. So the higher the voltage is for a value of resistance the more current flows. A voltage regulator is not a constant current supply either. The only way to limit current is to reduce voltage. That way the load resistance cannot draw any more current. So the answer to the question is it is excessive current that kills. The relationship is that higher voltages lead to higher currents.
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  276. Develop your own games. All the tools are available on Linux for free. You can run Linux without a compiler but why would you want to?
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  277. Actually the cap screw being in a poor location could be considered a design feature. As it may keep some real boneheads from over cranking the mechanism.
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  278. I'll take one if you're just giving them away.
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  279. You can get air conditioner filter foam at Walmart. It costs like a dollar for a big sheet of it.
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  280. 0.02 mm = 0.001 of an inch. Which really isn't mind blowing precision. 0.0001" kind of is.
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  281.  @johnuferbach9166  sure. If the holes were 0.003 off they'd be fine. 0.001 is about the thickness of a hair. So a few hairs isn't much. You need some wiggle room in a screw through hole anyways. There's lose and tight fits there. In a PC case you're dealing with lose fit. The head of a case screw I have here is 0.3. The major diameter of the thread is 0.133 So the rim of the screw is 0.0835 Or 83.5 times bigger than 0.001. So the hole size clearly isn't much of a factor. Hole placement is.
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  282. Plus you can grate cheese on mesh too. Make America Grate Again!
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  283. The point of this video is to test the CPU. So they want to have as much GPU headroom as they can to take that out of the equation as much as possible. Once the GPU bottlenecks you're not testing the CPU anymore.
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  284. Intel knows things you don't.
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  285.  @ROMSradio  blockchain will be an important technology moving forward. Like many emergent industries the first incarnation likely will not be the most influential use case in the long run. Everything does have to start somewhere though.
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  286.  @ROMSradio  it is very common that the killer app for new inventions isn't the first thing people think of. When Edison invented the phonograph he thought it'd be used in offices to record messages. So he called it the Dictaphone. When Tesla invented radio he wanted to transmit power wirelessly with it. We know how far off all of that is today. They weren't even close.
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  287. After Ultra Quality you have to go plaid with ludicrous speed.
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  288.  @ac0rpbg  The US has more minerals than China does. Including rare earths which are not rare at all.
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  289.  @shawnpitman876  rare earth is not rare. What is rare is people willing to work cheap to mine it. That China has and the US does not. Which is why it is mined in China and not the USA. And yes you are reinforcing the stereotype.
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  290. ​ @shawnpitman876  let's see what the USGS has to say about the topic, "The rare earths are a relatively abundant group of 17 elements composed of scandium, yttrium, and the lanthanides." Now what does, "relatively abundant" mean to you? Believe it or not economics is a large factor in markets. The cost of goods is materials and labor. So even if you have the materials if labor is high you're not going to produce. The USA is a very mineral rich nation. That's just how it is. If it exists we've got it. It does not always pay for us to mine materials though. Those damned miners expect a living wage here.
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  291.  @shawnpitman876  why do I have to prove all your BS?
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  292. Why would the people in charge be concerned? You think it is going to adversely impact them somehow? With a crippled economy they'll just be that much richer.
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  293. You couldn't figure out what size screws to use? That sounds so helpless to me. But I guess not everyone has all of the transfer punch sets and a stock of all machine screws on hand.
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  294.  @GamersNexus  bah there's plenty of forests already. I got one right in my backyard. http://i.imgur.com/SgGXiaT.jpg There's nothing but trees for miles in that direction. Well, ticks and snakes too. No mountains here though. Land's pretty flat. So no good mountain biking.
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  295.  @joesterling4299  it is the trees squatting in my front yard that I need to evict. I need to mix up a special batch of premix because my chainsaw only likes 40 to 1 in it. Right now trees are making my yard look like San Francisco too. They're dropping their sh*t all over the place! I need a vacuum trailer I can pull behind my tractor to clean the joint up. Moving to a desert always crosses my mind this time of year.
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  296.  @bryandepaepe5984  indeed does the phrase conflict of interest have any meaning to you?
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  297.  @FrejaProudTransbian  eastern cause denier
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  298.  @wasd____  a patch? The woods around me extend for miles in every direction.
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  299.  @lunchie80  that's why I have them. They're a great privacy screen.
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  300. If they did it looks like they missed the mark a bit.
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  301. It is not pointless. It is called a soft opening. If you want to succeed sometimes it is wise to not just dive into the deep end. You start easy and work any kinks out of your operation. Then when things are going smoothly you ramp up.
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  302.  @tyranus7  you don't need to. If everyone wanted to buy one it'd be a disaster. Only psychopaths set out to create disasters. The point is to get their feet wet.
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  303.  @marcello4258  the importance of chip manufacturing cannot be overstated with Intel. I mean they invented the monolithic integrated circuit. So making chips is what they do. They're also famous for inventing the microprocessor. But before they invented that they invented the whole microelectronic industry. So the importance of Intel cannot be overstated either.
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  304.  @peterrostkjr1662  I can't be too wrong. All I buy is Seasonic PSUs.
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  305.  @Josh-cw8by  that depends what happens at high current draw. If a supply is inadequate to meet the demand you won't be able to maintain the voltage level then and all kinds of bad things are going to happen. When ones turn into zeros at random digital logic breaks down. The only difference between a one and a zero in computers is the voltage level in a gate. Is it high or low? If you can't hit all the highs the notes are going to fall flat. Then the music is over.
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  306.  @Josh-cw8by  I realize the PSU is the foundation of a PC. But a lot of folks don't. They're much more focused on the CPU or their video card. How much RAM they have. As long as their PC powers up they figure the PSU is doing its job. Which I would largely agree with. But the hardware in a PC is the final arbiter in the debate. It is some sensitive stuff too. A hiccup billionths of a second long won't go unnoticed in a CPU. To us it is an event that didn't even occur. But it could subtly corrupt data. That's where BSODs come from. One little thing goes out of whack and the show's over. If you stop and think about it then it is amazing computers work at all. So much has to go right. Tens or hundreds of billions things every billionth of a second. It is like the ghost of Carl Sagan is haunting us today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZmafy_v8g8
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  307. I'm not impressed with your knowledge of microelectronics either. So I guess that makes the Universe balanced.
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  308. You ever work in manufacturing?
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  309. It is the Kung Flu.
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  310. I have a 4 core with 8 GB of RAM and it works for me. Right now my load average is 0.13
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  311. I think all bottom mounted PSUs are dumb. If the trend keeps up I'm going to have to start putting PC cases upside down. Because heat rises in this version of reality.
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  312. Car companies shouldn't be putting crap electronics into cars anyways. We buy cars to drive them. Heck I don't even play the radio when I am driving. I just need the wheels to turn!
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  313. Where are you buying 1050s for not much more than $80?
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  314.  @LowTechPC  ignorance is no excuse in this world. What you don't know often will hurt you.
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  315. Yeah because they all failed. No wait they didn't.
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  316.  @Thatslifebro_  get better material.
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  317.  @Thatslifebro_  do as you're told.
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  318. They'll have to invent a new lie. Parts pitch hasn't meant anything for a long time now. It is just marketing wank to sell you more crap.
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  319. I only ever buy cheap PC cases. To me a case is just a box to hold hardware. It never makes any of my PCs any faster. The last case I bought was an Antec VSK4000E. I needed a full ATX case. It was only $29. So I'm not the best person to ask about designer cases. I will say this though the cheaper you can price it the more you'll sell. If it's cheap enough I might even buy some.
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  320. I am glad I am happy with my PC now.
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  321. I'm pretty sure the 1 meg resistor in anti-static wrist straps is not there so you do not get an electrostatic shock but rather so you do not electrocute yourself. Working with electricity you never want to be hard grounded. Well, you can be but you really have to know what you're doing then. And no most of you idiots don't know what you're doing. So that's why there's a resistor in wrist straps. To save you from yourself.
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  322. There's a lot of shaft going around. Some shaft is worst to take than others though. Someday if you get shafted in a gulag you'll look back on now as the good old days too.
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  323. It is pretty funny considering most commercial renovation jobs everything gets torn out and rebuilt.
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  324.  @GamersNexus  to your credit nothing you're doing is structural. So if you're happy and the building code office are happy then you should be good. But that's for the building inspector to decide. Whatever they say goes too.
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  325. Infinite quality sounds nice.
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  326. Sure it is.
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  327. Comment for the algorithm.
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  328. Intel has invested more into Linux than AMD ever will.
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  329. That motherboard was like a Motherboard to me.
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  330. 10 years ago I thought I'd run out of room to put up shelves. 2 weeks ago I put two more up. It takes being creative.
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  331.  @jeffscomp  you can get a license on fleecebay. I suppose someone could pay me to run Windows but it'd be a substantial fee. There's my health to consider.
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  332. I can do that here outside. It's real peaceful around these parts.
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  333.  @LukeHimself  if you think there are always wind and bugs you've clearly never been in my yard. I'm not out there with a Spyker broadcaster spreading Sevin like it's going out of style for nothing. Remember Bhopal!
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  334. Are you trying to tell us how to talk? We speak American how we want to speak American.
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  335. That's a great plan as long as you're prepared to pay for all of it.
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  336. My memory benchmarks slower with the XMP profile set on it. So I disabled that feature here. But I'm using some old DDR3 1600 G-Skill Ripjaws. It still surprised me. I expected XMP to be the best performance. Apparently not.
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  337. Yeah it wasn't much different. It was still slower though.
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  338.  @johng6673  that's Windows. It is an OS built from the ground up for single tasking. But that's OK. Windows 11 will have a Linux core. Microsoft is not making any money on their OS anyways. Which is why they fired their QC department. Users can find bugs now.
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  339. I don't overclock so EZ-Mode is all I need. I am more interested in stability and reliability. That's why you won't find Windows installed on any of my PCs either.
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  340. If you want honey go raid a hive. Linux did not get installed on more silicon than anything else by being sickly sweet. Microsoft has the desktop market and that's it. Linux is everywhere from servers to sniper rifles.
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  341.  @michaelhoffmann2891  I've been alive more than twice as long as Linux has existed so thee's no chance you've been running Linux for longer than I've been alive. I predate UNIX entirely. Dennis Ritchie did go to my high school though. I grew up next door to Bell Labs so we used to shop in the same grocery store.
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  342.  @michaelhoffmann2891  while I was not paying attention Linux did get older than I realized it had. And it seemed like the 25th anniversary was just a little while ago. Sometimes I forget that Linux was around for a couple of years before I started running it myself. I do think Linux has plenty to prove yet. Being as it so far has been an abject failure for its intended purpose. Which always was to be an alternative desktop. It is no closer to achieving that today as the day I started running it. In fact considering the state of xorg lately I'd say it is further. Windows does not run everywhere either. In fact as bad off as Linux is I'd still say Windows is going to disappear sooner than Linux will. Well, Windows will still be around but the NT kernel won't be. Microsoft is moving more towards Linux themselves.
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  343. The name brand manufacturers are all about the same. What really matters is the hardware you get has the features you want at a price you are comfortable with. Past that if it works it works.
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  344. It could be increased demand. With everyone locked down what else are they going to do?
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  345. I run Linux so I am really excited for what Intel's discrete graphics adapters can do. Although I wouldn't buy this card.
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  346. Running Windows software on Linux will kill native Linux software development. I mean why make the effort if you can just kind of sort of run the binary? You'd be surprised how much of a chilling effect things like that can have.
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  347. lick your finger and stick it on the heatsink
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  348. ​ @supervillain3213  I was a union worker in the New York metro area so we only phased projects for practical work limitations. Money was never a factor. Only time. I worked for multinational corporations that had virtually unlimited financial resources. At any moment they were raking in fortunes. So that all colors my judgement today.
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  349. When the casters were on the floor the pallet was still wedged under the chamber. They had to lift the chamber up a little to free the pallet up under it.
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  350. Walllllll Mart!
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  351. hold my beer
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  352. Some people like air raid sirens. There's someone out there for everything.
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  353. Intel did invent the monolithic integrated circuit and the microprocessor so they do have a history of invention.
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  354. Small minds live in small worlds.
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  355. Was obsolete. No one wants 40 nm anything today.
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  356. AMD abandons products regularly. It's what they do. I'm pretty sure their board is peopled with reincarnated indian treaty negotiators.
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  357. It really stands for Masochists In Training
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  358. I grew up in the New York metro area and there's a rich history of tweaking there.
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  359. The tariffs are to address very real problems. Now if you've any viable solutions to any of that feel free to share them. Otherwise I'll thank you to pipe your ignorant ass down.
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  360.  AmusiaPrussia  k you replied. I need to check user names better thanks.
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  361. Is it really Intel's fault what drivers Windows has? Intel has their own OS, you know? Support is likely better there.
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  362. What's the difference?
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  363.  @curly_  prices are often fixed by what it is estimated a region can bear to spend. Companies are driven to maximize profits. Which means they will set prices both up and down depending on economic factors. In other words if they think they can squeeze and extra bit out of you they will. Or whatever they can get. There are other factors going on right now globally beyond US taxes. if I was them I'd be turning the screws on everyone right now too. You have to make hay while the sun is shining. Europe is largely locked down too. Means more people cooped up playing with computers. Supply and demand.
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  364. They are using Boba Fett
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  365. Probably. He's done everything else against the USA so it would be in character for him.
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  366. There are definitely some tones that are more grating than others are. db alone does not tell the whole story or often even the most important aspect of the story. And yeah changing pitches is one of those annoying things to listen to. Steady drones are more easily ignored.
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  367. What's better and worse in GUIs is subjective. I don't use any Desktop Environment myself. They're too involved. I just need a Window Manager that can put windows up on my desktop. The WM I use has not gotten any better in the past 15 years either. In fact it hasn't changed at all. I'm OK with that too.
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  368. I'm going to be stretching my 4670 for more than a year. Temps are good. Core 0: +25.0°C
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  369. Bill Gates wants to solve the problem at the root of it. He wants to eliminate people.
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  370. Gigabyte is a Taiwan manufacturer. So the best on the planet. Certainly over mainland China crap.
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  371. We'll see. Might be a big nothing burger too.
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  372.  @aaronthomas6155  the only thing the DG2 has to beat is my 750ti. I don't give a flying F about the 40 series. Because I do not have one of those. I certainly do not expect Intel to take the lead coming right out of the gate either. But Intel could crush Nvidia and AMD on foundry capacity. Intel owns most of the foundries on the planet. They have 12 chip fabs. Intel is a chip manufacturing company first and foremost. It's what they do. Intel makes chips. They invented chips.
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  373.  @aaronthomas6155  Robert Noyce the founder of Intel invented the monolithic integrated circuit.
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  374.  @aaronthomas6155  Intel made the first microprocessor as well.
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  375. That's rat urine.
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  376. USB-C, formally known as USB Type-C, is a 24-pin USB connector system, which is distinguished by its two-fold rotationally-symmetrical connector.
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  377. Yeah no. They test every chip they make. Every chip made is tested multiple times during production in fact. Why do all of the processes on a faulty part? That's why you never hear about someone getting a dead chip new. Not unless the idiot kills it themselves.
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  378.  @bluephreakr  not Arch Gentoo! Heck Linux from scratch!
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  379.  @bluephreakr  under the hood all Linux is too advanced for normies. Heck it's too advanced for me. I send core dumps to developers and let them sort it out.
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  380.  @junko4166  I pass the buck. Recompiling with debugging symbols enabled is as dirty as I'm willing to get. I usually get fixes in about a day.
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  381. You don't like DaVinci Resolve?
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  382. Where'd you find a used i7-4790K for $100?
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  383.  @davidgunther8428  I'll have to give that a look. On Aliexpress they're over $160 still. Which is too expensive for me. I'm just going to wait until they depreciate more I think. I figure in a couple years almost no one will want one then. I still will though. I want to max out the CPU in this PC.
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  384. Next you have to get a PC built by the Verge to review.
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  385. This long haired freak should see the data storage facility I worked on once. They had a battery room the size of a basketball court and that was just to tide them over until they could fire up their three generators that were each the size of a freight locomotive. They really were not playing games with power. On Google maps they call it a "law office". So they really don't want anyone knowing quite what they're really up to. Rumor was it backed up Wall St. financial data. So basically a lot of money. While we were working on the place it burned to the ground. They were just like well, build it again. They had serious cash.
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  386.  @Igorsov  let me guess a young prick that's seen nothing believes nothing too?
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  387. I have some parts in my old data sheet books that are not on the Internet. But my library is far from all encompassing.
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  388. We show them what 1970s technology can do. Which is still better than anything they have today.
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  389. There's this amazing invention called the wheel. You can get them on gadgets called hand trucks. You should look into it someday.
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  390.  @PainterVierax  I should hope Linux runs rock solid on IBM hardware. IBM does own Red Hat Linux now. Red Hat is as official a Linux distribution as there is. So whoever owns Red Hat effectively owns Linux. Linus runs Fedora which is the test branch of Red Hat. I'm still miffed by Red Hat going subscription though. Some things are hard to get over.
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  391.  @godfist314  online updating may seem common now but that's not how it always was. Red Hat invented the up2date online updater in version 7 circa 2001. Initially they gave it away for free to everyone that just wanted to use it too. And that's exactly what everyone did. I mean everyone ran Red Hat 7. They just about took over the distro market. It unified Linux. But when RH 7.3 came out they decided to make it need a subscription to use up2date. Faster than everyone came together we all left. Fragmentation has been a major problem with Linux. They solved it. Then they threw it away. At least they showed the world how to do online updating though. Today even Windows does it. Not very well, but it does it. Red Hat invented it. The Red Hat 7 era was a magical time to run Linux. It is something we'll likely never see again. RH screwed up big time! The damage they did to Linux by making that decision is incalculable. 20 years on we're still suffering for it. Linux remains a marginalized might as well not exist OS on the desktop. And yeah I'm still pissed.
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  392.  @PainterVierax  WTF are you talking about? What does anything you wrote have to do with what I've written? Nothing. Absolutely nothing at all. Pot, kettle black! Attack of the mole people for sure.
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  393.  @PainterVierax  I assumed it was a reply to a comment I made. My reply yours it still stands though.
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  394. What train? You just give them user accounts and tell them to suck it.
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  395. Being naked and generating less of a static charge does make sense. There's less material friction.
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  396.  @SaturnusDK  Intel gives you the option of using Speed Step. Right now my CPU is running at like 1 GHz. Dealing with you dimwits is not a terribly taxing task. At that reduced load there is reduced power consumption as well. You're barely firing core 0 over here bright eyes. Core 0: +22.0°C
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  397.  @Tallnerdyguy  all CPUs thermally throttle. The only question that remains is where. A 100W cooler will net you Intel's specified ratings. Beyond that you will need more cooling to have any chance. Surprise surprise.
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  398. Only people living under rocks bought Bulldozer CPUs.
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  399.  @stevesmith1383  "most people dont' calculate power consumption". They're dumb for not doing so too.
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  400.  @stevesmith1383  what are you paying a kilowatt hour? What is cheap?
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  401. They were xenon atoms. Google IBM atoms.
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  402. If it could outperform the 750ti I'm running right now I'd be ordering one immediately. But this card ain't that. I'm hoping the DG2 will be.
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  403.  @procerator  don't care. Ultimately every penny I spend benefits someone too. Yet I am not subsidized by the government. I don't have hundreds of billions of dollars in the bank either.
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  404.  @procerator  suits me. I don't want a big ugly factory next door to me anyways. So if they build it on the other side of the world I can't see it from my house either.
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  405.  @procerator  why should I? Last I checked I am not social services. No my yob mon!
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  406.  @procerator  so? What will we do with everyone involved in corrections and law enforcement along with all of the lawyers? Criminals are an important element of our society! You have locksmiths, firearms manufacturers. The list goes on and on. Self defense personal trainers even. Tactical driving instructors. What will happen to ADT stocks? The consequences of your short sighted program are disastrous.
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  407. Metric? Freedom units!
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  408.  @miguellopez3392  good for China. We invented the transistor and the integrated circuit. We should not have to bribe companies to do anything. They should make the right civic choices on their own. Hey maybe they like China though? They should move their headquarters there now too. Avoid the rush.
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  409.  @miguellopez3392  there's always a first time. Everything has a beginning. But I know how politicians get when people start throwing billions around. They'd sell their own mothers for a slice of it.
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  410.  @miguellopez3392  well fighting against nature doesn't sound very natural to me. But good luck to you in your struggle. I unfortunately will not be there for most of the conflict. I've only a few decades left in me at best. You need to hear the story of the scorpion and the fox.
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  411. You don't know how performance parts work. No one guarantees parts that are meant to be abused.
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  412. AMD has a long way to go to catch up with Intel on Linux. Intel has their own distro. Intel has their own compiler. Intel has been investing heavily into Linux for decades now.
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  413. @SNES Nes ClearOS There's a website.
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  414. Now AMD has to hire Linux guys. And the circle of life is complete. Because Microsoft ain't running Windows on Azure.
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  415.  @Animize  people like Windows servers because they have easy to use setup utilities. Or so I hear. I wouldn't use Windows to run a coffee pot.
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  416. Titty sag is never a pretty sight.
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  417.  @TheHalfGlassFullGuy  tarnish is how silver oxidizes.
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  418.  @TheHalfGlassFullGuy  oxidization is the combination of oxygen with metals. Oxidization is corrosion too. But there's different kinds of oxidization. The rust many are familiar with is just one kind. All oxidization is natural. But sometimes it is caused by artificial means. Still what metals want to do. Sometimes it's what we want to do as well. Like when we put black oxide finishes on metals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_oxide
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  419. You do know that companies do not get tariff money, don't you? It is an import tax levied by a government. Them raising their MSRP has absolutely nothing to do with import taxes. They are just raising their prices and using the tariff as an excuse.
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  420. If you don't like it go make your own chip. Good luck with that.
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  421.  @m.streicher8286  what shortcoming? I don't remember Intel ever promising they'll make products that produce the most MIPS. All Intel ever did was invent the integrated circuit and the microprocessor. They never said they'd be first every day though.
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  422. I hate modern cases. I picked up an Antec VSK4000E System Cabinet from Walmart for $28.99 and built my last system in it. It lacked USB 3 so I just made a front panel plate for those and added the riser. The riser did cost me an additional $7.80. So the whole case was $36.79. I had to replace the fan in it too because my motherboard would not run a 3 pin fan. Don't know why. A new fan cost an additional $7.49 Which adds up to a grand total of $44.28. Here's a pic of the mod in progress https://i.imgur.com/WfljO90.jpg
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  423. Anything's possible. That's what makes it worthwhile to get out of bed in the morning. Because you never know what the day is going to hold.
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  424. I have found that you cannot make blanket statements about the vibration resistance of electronics. Because I have killed certain series parts with vibration on large mini computer logic boards I was salvaging for parts while others survived on the same board. I've since retooled for greater yields. Chips are made in different factories using different materials and processes so they do not all hold up the same. One change as far as static goes is the inclusion of clamp diodes on ICs now. Those clamp diodes offer some degree of protection from static. Little zaps generally won't fry clamped ICs. A big enough zap still will though.
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  425. It bummed me out at the time. I wanted those decade up down counters. But every one of them died when I disc cut that board apart. Although all other ICs survived the same abuse. Then I went out and bought a solder pot so I could get ICs off boards much easier without cutting the boards all apart first.
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  426. I worked as a bench tech at a board assembly house and we did subcontract work for a military communications gear supplier. So I hand made SMD military gear. Helicopter radios, no fighter jet stuff AFAIK. They were very particular about the quality of that hardware. So much so that they would park an engineer over each of my shoulders to watch me work and critique my technique. I usually didn't give them much to talk about though.
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  427. After that job I worked in a manual machine shop. We made table clamps, live centers and wheel dressers. I made my own CNC engraver but I don't use it much anymore. I need to run a network cable to it and fire it up again one of these days. My CNC machine looks ghetto but it works OK.
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  428. CNC is pretty accessible today. The electronics side of it is cheap as long as you're not going industrial sized. So "little" is reasonable. For me it was after I got my machine running that I ran into problems. I have no aptitude when it comes to digital design. For me trying to use CAD software is like trying to carry on a conversation in Linear B. It is all Greek to me.
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  429.  @r3d0c  if they only knew some history. I give AMD a lot of credit for making something of themselves. But I know where they came from. I even had an AMD DX4-100 back in the day. I have one of their data books from 1983 too. That's back before the day. AMD was a much different company then. They only made glue chips. PIOs stuff like that.
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  430. @blitzwing1 you should learn some history. Intel got to the top by inventing the industry. They didn't bribe anyone to do that either.
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  431. @blitzwing1 Intel always seems to be the top performer to me. I don't know how anyone bribes their way to being the best either. In fact I wouldn't even call anyone a competitor to Intel. Other manufacturers target other market segments. AMD is more of a value brand. Never the best, but good for the price.
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  432.  @pino_de_vogel  what you describe does not sound like the same design to me. As those gains would not be had using the same design at the same speed. We are coming to the end of the road as far as process shrinks go. So the industry is going to have to come up with something different if they want to keep moving forward. Plus how much improvement is even halfway between 7nm and 0? That's only 3.5nm Almost nothing is almost nothing. You look at other shrinks in the past and they were tens of nanometers of reduction. So it was something. When you're starting off with a tiny pie the slices you cut aren't going to amount to much.
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  433.  @pino_de_vogel  everything is expensive until unit volume brings the costs down.
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  434. Indeed I have. How does Nvidia's reports in any way counter what I said? You do know that less can be sold at a higher price and make more money.
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  435. No they're just making up numbers. There's nothing 3 nm about their process really. Debaur looked at AMD and Intel CPUs under an electron microscope and the transistors were the exact same size. Even though Intel called theirs 14 nm and TSMC called theirs 7 nm. The TSMC ones were a bit more nicely defined though.
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  436. It just has to beat a 750 ti at a reasonable price and I'm in. This card can't but I'm hopeful for the next one. I love supporting Intel. Go team Blue!
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  437. I don't pay sales tax. Sales tax is state by state.
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  438. If you think their system is better than ours is then you're just displaying your ignorance. They run higher voltage because they're poor. They can't afford the conductors we can. Our single phase system runs at 240 V anyways. 120 V circuits are using the neutral return. So it is only half the phase. 120+120=240 Which is the voltage between our hot wires. Educate yourself how things work. BTW a kitchen outlet should be able to supply 2400 W Kitchens have 20 A circuits. But your microwave is not 100% efficient.
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  439. A 4790K is still a capable CPU today.
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  440. Let's hope at least once. No one at AMD has ever struck gold so no worries there.
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  441. I think this all has to do with Intel Speed Step. Which OCs hardware better than any meatbag can.
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  442.  @IceLom  when a market is flooded with something it is being forced on you. When you have to go out of your way at inconvenience to you that is an issue. Electricity does not grow on trees. Lights do not light up without drawing current either. You could probably power a small country with all of the electricity worthless RGB is burning up today worldwide. Plus RGB is tacky as hell and looks like shit.
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  443.  @bmxriderforlife1234  what black with red LED components?
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  444.  @bmxriderforlife1234  I must have missed that trend. I was pretty dismayed the last time I was browsing PC gear at where things had gone. Stuff looks like Transformers toys to me. I guess that's the kind of mentality they need to appeal to these days though? I come from the green solder mask and white silkscreen era of circuit boards. Back when adults were the focus group. We didn't care what anything looked like just so long as it worked.
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  445.  @bmxriderforlife1234  high end gear should just perform high end. Put PC parts in a box and be done with them. It is a computer for crying out loud. Any excitement they generate should come from the code they execute. I have literally heard brats whine that their graphics adapter did not color match their motherboard perfectly. They're different shades of white. Give me a break. It is out of hand if you ask me.
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  446.  @bmxriderforlife1234  well if LEDs serve some kind of an indication purpose that's OK. According to the manual my motherboard has a bunch of LEDs on it to indicate various things. I guess if I ever have a problem I may just find out? So far I haven't seen anything light up over here though. Fingers crossed.
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  447. Steve should have thought of that before making the move.
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  448. It is all in your mind.
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  449. I love the aesthetics. I wish it performed better. Here's to hoping the DG2 is twice as good!
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  450.  @AeRiaL_  if you limit yourself to your home directory there's little chance of messing up a Linux install. No chance really. There's ways of doing things without altering the core of the system. The bits your distro's maintainers are supposed to take care of. With some exceptions. You may for instance want to configure and compile a custom kernel. When you do things like that you do need to proceed with caution. Expect a bit of roughness until you manage to sort things out. Once it works things tend to keep working in the Linux world. Forever!
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  451. @Tano most just sat Windows 8 out. I tell people not to run Linux just because they don't like something else. Only run Linux if you really want to run Linux. Linux is an alternative OS, not a replacement OS. I see people actually saying they want Linux to be able to run every program Windows does. It just makes me shake my head.
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  452. @Tano the Window Manager I use does not support desktop short cuts. But I do have a dock item that is like an icon drawer. I keep icons of 4 of my most used programs in it. The rest I just launch from a terminal. Although the file manager I use has file associations too.
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  453. @Tano you can install any Window Manager or Desktop Environment you like and use it. You can have more than one installed and even run more than one at a time. Although doing the latter is just a stupid Linux trick with no practical use. Still funny to do. X hails from a time when most PCs were not powerful enough to run an X session. So X was built as a server to host a lot of cheesy PCs. Today we run the server and the client on the same PC. But X can still act like its old self. You can launch multiple client sessions from the same PC too. man xinit.
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  454. Apple makes cell phones in the USA?
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  455. While we're all swapping anecdotal stories I've been running a Gigabyte GA-H55M-S2V Since I bought it new eight years ago 27/7/365 without a lick of trouble.
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  456. It has been proven that nothing improves performance more than RGB!
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  457.  @SuperSSSSooonniicccc  the scope sweeping an empty trace is the point. It's a pointless device. Past turning it on I bet Steve doesn't know another thing about it. And that's precisely the point. He doesn't need to know!
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  458.  @SuperSSSSooonniicccc  and you think that antique CRO on the shelf is a DSO? Looks like a 20 MHz bandwidth no name analog to me. If it's lucky.
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  459. a FinFET is a FET with a fin. Receive the word from Tech Jesus!
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  460. In the US they're more like 3 times MSRP.
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  461. Yeast likes to grow exponentially too.
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  462. Wanting and actually doing are two different things. I've often thought about upgrading. But I've never actually ever changed the CPU in any PC I've ever owned. I just always end up getting a whole new PC. So the moral of the story is buy the CPU you want when you buy a system. And really you should be running a new PSU every 5 years too. They wear out in ways that are not easy to detect.
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  463. Because they're a financially ad based business? You might as well tell a rancher to be a vegetarian.
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  464.  @Tokit  it is an eat your own dog food situation which you choose to not recognize. If they block ads they can't very well expect their users to not block ads. Because if everyone blocked ads they wouldn't get paid. Ads are good for you anyways.
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  465. Tech Jesus is trolling us with his blinding halo of light.
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  466.  @J_Siraque  we need dip for our chips.
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  467. I have a Cooler Master Hyper T2 that I paid $9.99 for. It works for me. Quite frankly liquid seems a bit too involved for me to get involved with.
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  468. It is what all corporations do. When you're shopping around a 20 billion dollar project that gets the politicians excited. They know they can sell influence all over the place then.
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  469.  @aaronthomas6155  introducing variables is not the way to increase test accuracy. CPUs themselves are not very reliable heating elements either. We know they make heat. There's just too many variables that determine how much heat they dissipate though. You're way better off with a simple heating element if you want to measure cooler heat dissipation.
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  470. I'll say this for the Corsair A500 it sure is big.
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  471. No. Intel master race!
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  472.  @psychozulu  maybe. They turned down that Corsair money though. Which is rare today.
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  473. There's someone that makes some sense. Really the whole PC market is turning into a luxury item. Normal people have smartphones or a pad today. It is not like it was years ago where if you wanted in on the digital world you needed a PC.
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  474. Rock wool just makes you itch huh? You must have skin of steel or something. I'd more describe the sensation as someone running a blow torch over your body. We call it rotten cotton we hate it so much. Any amount of rock wool airborne is like run away! It'll make your nose bleed. I'd rather snort lines of asbestos than work with rock wool. That stuff is evil!
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  475. Linus is a total shill. He's getting paid by every tech company going at this point too. Good for him.
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  476.  @formdoggie5  our Sun can make iron. It just hasn't gotten around to it yet.
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  477.  @formdoggie5  "it mostly just absorbs it as the solar systems vaccuum" Are you describing the Hoover maneuver?
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  478.  @formdoggie5  you don't want to be sticking your willie into no shark.
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  479. Someday I'll get a 7-4790K if I can get one cheap enough. Today it is crazy to spend money for something so old.
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  480.  @alouisschafer7212  The Big Guy will do it for 10%
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  481. Who is Wong?
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  482. Just goes to show you should never mind what anyone thinks.
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  483. The point is modern hardware is faster with more features. Get it?
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  484. I miss more SATA 6 connectors. Sandy usually only supports two of those.
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  485. When did they use a real saw?
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  486. They would need to rename the company to IBTC then.
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  487. My money was on Steve winning. And he did.
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  488. You can get rigging gear if you're dealing with things that need to be lifted regularly. I don't think Steve is going to be making a frequent habit of it though.
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  489. Google hard disk smart monitor. Or S.M.A.R.T. The best way is likely with a Linux live session flash drive with gsmartctrl on it.
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  490.  @neoncharge2964  well they deferred their loss. For a long time Intel had no competition so they simply did not make capital investments. What for? Now Intel is doing some building on the fab front. But it still may not be enough. From the figures I've heard TSMC is investing more than twice what Intel is. It remains to be seen who gets what from money spent.
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  491. @J Fz they're not scared, they're not using 5 year old designs and they're definitely not having a fire sale either. What you're seeing is business as usual. But if you like it then it's all good.
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  492. I play Doom and it is only single thread.
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  493.  @WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart  My Nvidia GPU works great in Linux. I ran Nvidia's binary driver when it was first released. Was the best hardware acceleration then and it still is today.
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  494. I know.
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  495. What throws off more heat a single match burning or a bonfire?
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  496. Everyone that uses computers needs Intel. They invented the monolithic integrated circuit and microprocessor after all. AMD has not made a chip since Bulldozer. That's when they sold their fab plant. They got out at 40 nm.
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  497. Converting Wattage (P) into current (I) knowing the voltage (E) is as easy as PIE. But marketers are counting on you not knowing that. Sadly they're right too.
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  498. What they did was easy enough.
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  499. If he fried it then I'd say it's not worth much.
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  500. Initially TDP stood for "Total Dissipated Power". Things evolve over time though I suppose? You see no one used to design for power use. It just was what it was. And if you didn't like it you went back to the drawing board and tried again.
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  501. @Martin M that is not what TDP originally stood for. I still don't give a flying what anything is designed to do either. I just care what it actually does.
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  502. Linux is as bad as everyone is saying. And it's getting worse! Probably because Microsoft is a platinum member of the Linux Foundation.
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  503. It should have worked right with the first driver.
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  504. Give Intel your resume and maybe they'll hire you as CEO? Then they can implement all of your great ideas.
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  505. Ask your Chinese friends. You commie!
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  506.  @johnwiesen4440  I do believe it was the Greeks that invented democracy. Could be wrong on that. But I'm pretty sure they figured it out before merry old England did.
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  507. Windows? I don't do Windows.
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  508.  @GamersNexus  I won't say we're not facing serious challenges but planting tress isn't going to get us out of the hole we're in now. Heck forests are fire hazards. You're being lied to by entities plotting to gain by collapsing western civilization. You're learning Chinese aren't you? The word for crisis also means opportunity in that language. A line of thought not lost on certain people.
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  509.  @RobRidleyLive  what you need to hope for is that we'll take it too though. In The Turner Diaries race traitors were all hanged. So, how's the neck?
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  510.  @j.s.t.6515  research all you want. Just don't do it on my dime.
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  511.  @ottowokeninger9617  yeah Liz Warren says that if we legalize the 22 million illegals in the country now they'll pay for all of our healthcare for us. Heck if those people are worth so much why don't we bring in a billion of them? Think of what we could have then! But if them folks are so valuable then how come their countries aren't the richest? More like the poorest. Something isn't adding up there.
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  512.  @FrejaProudTransbian  mountains of BS. If you're so worried about it go protest in China. I'm net negative with my carbon. I got acres of my own private forest here. Biatch!
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  513. The only way to be proof of the future is to be the individual making the future. Beyond that you're at the whims of others.
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  514. Yeah because TSMC is stupid and they'd do something to hurt one of their good customers. They don't know what once the damage is done the bad actor will drop TSMC like it's a hot potato.
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  515. Who put all these dimples on this golf ball? It'll never fly right!
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  516. I think we need an in depth review of the Overpowered Walmart gaming PC.
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  517. At least Intel makes chips. Which is more than AMD or Nvidia can say. In fact Intel's founder invented chips. Which is more than anyone can say.
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  518.  @fishyc43sar  everything matters. Playing a short game often ruins long game prospects. You may be better off in the moment but find yourself in a bad way down the road.
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  519. Will still be using a 4670 in 2020 🙂 Unless I can get a 4790K cheap.
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  520.  @Glenactus  an i7-4790K would be an upgrade for me. I'd like to get one for my PC too. Just to max out the CPU I can put in it. I like this PC. Could be faster at times though.
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  521.  @KingindaNorf  Microsoft is a corporation known for software stability.
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  522.  @olaf5929  Windows 95 was the last Microsoft OS I ran personally. I heard about this other OS on Usenet and started running it.
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  523. Like parasitic young people have ever accomplished anything.
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  524. If you love it then make sure you have a good PSU powering it. If you're running the original you built with you're about at the age where it will let go and take everything with it. I swap my PSUs out every 5 years.
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  525. Yeah Asus gives you the option of disabling UEFI. Which I do.
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  526. They can't screw to the wall.
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  527. @hdshatterify it is not a lie. it is TDP at the spec speed. Intel cannot know what anyone may do with their hardware. Well, maybe they can. But as of now they don't bother about it as much as they might.
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  528.  @eyesofvenus  because no one cares?
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  529. Peak performance always costs a premium. The peak rises over time. Then the cost of that old level drops when there's a new high. The present fabrication process has more than simple economics as an ultimate limiting factor. The Universe we exist in has physical rules.
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  530. Yeah but how does it work in Linux?
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  531. I just want to know why this work needs to be done overseas. These look like good jobs that Americans could do. We invented electricity after all!
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  532.  @Mythricia1988  the workers do not do it at much lower cost. It is American company owners that insist on too high profit margins for themselves. They're the ones pocketing the money.
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  533. Yeah but how does it work in Linux? Intel is the biggest Linux fanboy on the planet. They didn't just go out and buy a distro like IBM did they had to make their own! And yeah the driver for Intel's discrete graphics has been in the kernel for a long time now. Of course. So this stuff is plug and play with Linux.
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  534. It's called a circular saw. And they work far better on pallets than reciprocating saws do.
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  535.  @TheGhungFu  I did a bit of demo in the union myself. Commercial stuff. Residential on the side. Safety and precision come from the operator. I know what I can do with a circular saw. When I first tried to cut up pallets I used a reciprocating saw. I figured it'd be good. Circular saw way better. If you can get a circular saw on it a circular saw is always better than a reciprocating saw is. Round and round just beats back and forth. Recips do have reach though. So they have their place. Which is why I have a few.
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  536.  @JohnSmith-us4pj  why did they do that though? Everyone else seems to be able to manage making cards that fit into standard slots.
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  537.  @JohnSmith-us4pj  I know what you mean. Intel is pretty guilty of it with their CPU sockets too. Why they need a new one every generation is beyond me. But they're not the only ones either. There's a lot of incompatibility in this world that is anti-consumer. Like cordless tool batteries. Why there ought to be a law against that.
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  538. You weren't getting zapped by your water taps. You were zapping your water taps. Water pipes are grounds. So they're not going to have a charge. You moving around is the thing generating a charge. As you move around you pick up stray electrons. Then when you touch a ground those excess electrons equalize. Everything wants to stay balanced. So high potentials shed electrons to lower potentials. Friction has a way of knocking electrons off though. They're like little hitchhikers on you. Until you touch a ground then they all get off the bus.
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  539. Your house did not create any jobs. You didn't build that! I don't work for you! We're about to go into a dark winter. Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.
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  540.  @code-dredd  deserve's got nothing to do with it. We all got it coming, kid.
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  541.  @code-dredd  game over, man!
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  542. Joe likes 'em young and his supporters apparently like little boys.
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  543. That is not how tariffs work or are supposed to work. A tariff is a market protection against foreign competitors. Everyone gets to chew it too. You're probably not paying sales tax either. If you are then you live in a commie state and that's on you.
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  544.  @Nova-dy6fq  personally I am too old to learn Mandarin. So I support all tariffs against China. America First!
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  545.  @emmata98  more incentive for local production. After all we did invent the monolithic integrated circuit so we are capable of producing them here too.
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  546.  @slammerf16  so you do not stand in solidarity with the USA?
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  547. AMD makes nothing so they have no tech.
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  548. Actually still on is the best state. I blow PCs out with compressed air when they're off and unplugged. Not a problem.
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  549. You apply for a job. Mail boy or something.
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  550. You realize that parts pitch is bullshit these days, don't you? Pitch used to be the width of a whole transistor. Now it is the width across a gate in a transistor. So basically transistors haven't shrank in about 10 years now.
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  551. What you say would be true if there were only gates on substrate. Unfortunately the whole part has to be there. It all physically being there is not just semantics either. Although redefining pitch is just semantics. Because now you cannot compare new hardware with old hardware anymore. But that's why they did it. Because they know they've made little progress lately. You only know what they tell you though. Basically at 24nm it was over.
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  552. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
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  553. What are you talking about? Intel is the best as far as power consumption goes. My core temp is +32.0°C on my i5-4670. It is smooth and cool runnings.
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  554. Then that is why they are not out yet. Do you criticize everything before it is finished?
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  555. Yea? Let's see what kind of a CPU you can make in two years. Go. It'd take you 10 lifetimes just to count how many transistors are on that chip. So the task may be a tad more challenging than you realize.
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  556. Innovation still happens while we stick to tried and true templates. Automobiles have maintained the same form for over 100 years now. That is not to say there hasn't been any innovation in that time though.
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  557. You could be right. The car industry is hampered by a lot of government regulations that the PC industry has so far avoided. Someone has broken the sound barrier in a car though. I think it was some crazy Aussies that did that? I can well imagine why the Powers that Be don't want that kind of hardware in common people's hands. Do know that the car they broke the sound barrier in was about as different from the first clunkers as a modern supercomputer is from a tube colossus of the 1950s. It was basically a jet airplane without wings.
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  558. I have some experience designing logic circuitry. Though I grew tired of it in the 1980s so I am more into power analog electronics now. It is fair to say that I like the juice. Little picoamp circuitry just doesn't do it for me anymore.
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  559. What do you dispute as not being factual?
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  560. So when I run my CPU under liquid nitrogen I can expect it to throttle at 95W? Yeah no thanks Poindexter.
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  561.  @SolarianStrike  why should it? Is the CPU in danger of thermal runaway? How does a CPU even know what speed it is running at? All it knows is what base clock it is getting from the motherboard. It is not like it can look at the sky and say something is off here, time isn't running right. I've had PCs where the system clock and the CMOS clock drifted a lot in operation. That means some clock is out of whack. If not both of them. Reality is subjective for semiconductors too.
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  562. I just got a GTX750ti. It is new to me.
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  563.  @bpsdetailing8822  yeah but if you have a system to drop a 4790K into that's cheaper than buying RAM a mobo and a CPU.
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  564. Modern process ICs are worthless for mission critical applications. There's other hardware that can handle harsh environments. Look up the IBM RAD series of CPU. It's nothing like what's in your smartphone. Different thing entirely.
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  565. Legacy is still fully supported. Legacy simply does not get new features.
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  566. ​ @ashtiboy  shhh don't let my file server hear you say that. It's more than 8 years old now. It's a i3 530 I bought brand new when it first came out. So it's from 2010. That makes it over 11 years old now. I need it to run a few more years too. I ran a P4 PC for 14 years once. So my i3 should make it.
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  567. But how much of your life do you want to live without ray tracing? Just buy it! No wait, that's for something else.
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  568. I have 90 Mbps. There's a cornfield out my front door too. So pretty rural around these parts. There's over 900 feet of fiber on my property alone. I'm set back off the road a bit.
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  569.  @03jalapeno  I can still remember when the crew was at the top of my street laying the cable. Then they turned and went down the other road. Took them over a year to get to my house. Over the years our speed has increased a lot. It was fast enough for me to begin with. But I ain't gonna tell them to stop bumping it up.
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  570. Value is relative. If you need the fastest it is worth whatever you have to pay for it. People crying over costs are not competitive in Formula Racing either. But if you're only putting to the supermarket then you don't need the fastest thing built on 4 wheels.
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  571. +Tommy Angelo I'd say competitive gamers need the fastest CPU they can get if they want to be as good as they can be. Gamers may not be the most informed people on the planet at times either. Some I'm amazed they can even turn on a PC.
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  572. There's not no difference. There's no connection. Deception has nothing to do with diminishing returns. They are completely separate from one and another.
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  573. You can get port expansion cards. Though the last time I looked they are getting harder to find. I have a port expansion board in my CNC controller PC. It has a built in parallel port but I was a bit leery about plugging my homebrewed buffered break out board into the built in on board port. So I bought an expansion card for that PC just so if something went wrong it hopefully wouldn't blow the whole system up. As it turns out though I'm pretty good at designing and making break out boards. Because it works great.
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  574. What you describe sounds more like a design failure to me than a technical shortcoming. Because I see no reason why PCI cannot provide parallel ports. I know of hardware that far outperforms parallel ports. Those boards run at 50 MHz with 72 data lines. So parallel ports can obviously be done too. They come in PCI and PCIe. Scroll down to see their 7I90HD parallel port daughter board they offer. http://www.mesanet.com/fpgacardinfo.html
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  575. What kind of a difference? I run a PCI expansion port board and I do not see any difference. The OS treats the hardware just like they are ports. Because that's what they are. I run my CNC engraver off that board. So if anything was going to have a problem it would.
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  576. Perhaps some boards are not as good as others? The board I have has a 16550 UART on it. So it is the same hardware as is on a motherboard. It is just another one. PCs don't have a problem dealing with two of those.
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  577. In my experience most human minds do not care what human eyes can and cannot see. That is proved by the obsession many have with frame rates.
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  578. Engineers are usually terrible at running businesses.
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  579. Probably not. Static electricity is not like conventional current. That's why we have a different name for it. It's all electrons but they're behaving differently. It is a form of electricity. Static charges happily build up on insulation materials. So static electricity is electricity, only different.
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  580.  @timowagner1329  electricity itself is a strange phenomena. We have a pretty good grasp on electricity today yet the force can remain largely mysterious in the day to day. It's not something a whole lot of folks give much thought to.
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  581.  @timowagner1329  I wouldn't want to try to assemble a PC wearing gloves. Anti-static wrist straps are not expensive. But if you do not want to use one plenty of folks manage to assemble PCs without them. You just have to be careful. Don't go touching contacts. Handle boards by their edges. Try to discharge yourself on a ground. You could even make your own wrist strap if you have a 1 megaohm resistor and a piece of wire. That's basically all they are. Might not be as nice as a store bought strap but you're not using it every day.
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  582. I want a i7-4790K but they're too expensive still. Plus my 4670 works good enough.
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  583. Will this guy eat his hat if Intel delivers?
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  584. Linux is never going to run 100% of the software that was made for Windows. They're completely different operating systems.
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