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Comments by "Paul Frederick" (@1pcfred) on "GNU/Linux Isn't The Worst Name Stallman Gave Linux" video.
GNU didn't help. GNU was there and Linus used it. If GNU wasn't there I don't know what may have happened. Linux is a serendipitous thing. Various things had to align for it to be. Not the least of which was GNU being too ambitious and failing to make a practical kernel.
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So now I know where the ligma meme came from. Thanks RMS
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ClearOS uses a compiler Intel made. ClearOS probably does ship GNU packages though. Now whether you need those to have a running system is debatable. If GNU wanted their name attached to a kernel they shouldn't have dropped the ball like they did. But they did. So here we all are now.
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GNU already references UNIX. GNU stands for GNU is Not UNIX.
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@paulie-g woulda, coulda, shoulda, but didn't. Nothing worthwhile is ever easy. We have bash and EMACS at home.
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To people that matter they do care. RMS founded the free software movement. Which may not be important to you but it is to others. RMS wrote EMACS, make and GCC among other things. The man's influence on modern computing really cannot be overstated. I doubt Linux would exist if not for RMS.
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@DarkusObscurius Hurd runs now. Or so I've heard.
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@DarkusObscurius everyone's requirements are different.
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If you cannot compile your kernel you can't run it either. RMS did write make and GCC too. So there's that.
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To say other open source software projects have nothing to do with GNU and FSF is pretty short sighted if not downright ignorant. RMS came from MIT. So that's why MIT is even on your list. The guy is the cancer that made FLOSS spread like it has. He's an autistic nut but he's also right.
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GNU is the core utilities. GCC, make, glibc and the binutils. Which are a bunch of very important programs if you want a system that runs. when Linus came along GNU had everything but a working kernel. They could have easily made a kernel like Linux but they wanted something much more ambitious. Which proved almost impossible to achieve. They wanted something called a microkernel. Linux is a monolithic kernel. It's basically obsolete. But monolithic kernels are easy to develop. So the Linux kernel ran decades earlier than GNU's kernel did. I don't know if GNU's kernel ever lived up to the hype. I hear it does run now though.
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@hopelessdecoy Linux does not depend on any of those projects to exist. If GNU's suite of utilities did not exist I doubt Linux ever would have been made. The whole puzzle was there sans one piece. The kernel depended on the rest of the toolchain existing to be made itself.
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@hopelessdecoy X Window was not initially developed with GNU software. X predates GNU. Linus on the other hand used the whole GNU toolkit to develop Linux on. So it is fair to say that Linux owes its existence to GNU.
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@meskes4059 bsd user land is Linux ports now.
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@damianateiro RMS is intelligent enough to grasp the big picture. As time moves on Information Technology just gets more important in our lives. If all software is proprietary that becomes very problematic. As you cannot know what is happening to your data. Who may have access to it, etc. Or if it is even your data at all.
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