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Comments by "Paul Frederick" (@1pcfred) on "Zoomers Don't Understand Computer Folders" video.
You may not know this but there were in fact scientists before computers existed. They used this funny stuff called paper. They wrote on it using pens and pencils. Then later on they would use machines to imprint characters onto the paper using ribbons of ink.
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My computer doesn't have folders. It has directories.
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@raphaelcardoso7927 I prefer paper for many things over digital still. People who write drawing programs for PCs for instance do not know the first damned thing about how to draw! Because if they did they'd have far better UIs than they do. I got a B+ in art class drawing so I have some aptitude for it. Personally I think the professor just didn't like the subject matter of what I drew. Because I saw the work of the kid that got an A- and I thought my stuff was better. I don't think he awarded a higher mark than that. But I digress.
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@Thomas B life isn't all about fun and games. You have fun when I'm better acquainted with the 4,000 documents than you are.
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@Thomas B where you headed? I'm good where I'm at now.
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Can you rebuild a transmission? If no then why do you drive? I knew a guy that could rebuild transmissions and he'd do it for free. His only stipulation was you had to let him put a shift kit in when he did. Which I never knew anyone to mind. Oh and you had to buy the rebuild kit too. He'd do it for free but you had to pay for parts.
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There are tracks and sectors. Which a file system will organize into some kind of an indexable system. Otherwise the OS itself would have no way of knowing how to find anything itself. There is nothing virtual about any of it at all on the most basic level. It is all quite physical.
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@mk72v2oq SSD still has to decode addresses.There is more to it than a flat plane of storage cells. Wear leveling doesn't make things any easier either. At least you recognize that data is written in chunks. So that's a start.
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@mk72v2oq don't matter. The physical still is there. Even if it wasn't not using a subdirectory structure is still stupid.
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People still have knowledge today. Trouble is there's a lot more information. So possessing a little knowledge won't get anyone as far today as it used to.
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You wouldn't like the Window Manager I use. The only thing you can put in the root window is a background. You cannot drag files to the desktop and drop them nor can you make shortcuts or links on the desktop either. None of that functionality exists at all. Although when you start programs sometimes it'll pop up a tile with an icon on it. It won't for every program. Like it doesn't for my web browser for instance. Not sure why. It's rare I ever use those so I don't actually care to find out. You can say that I eschew the entire desktop paradigm. although I do have a drawer on my desktop that I use to hold a few icons. Four to be precise. So my desktop is very desk like. I just don't keep it cluttered with crap.
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Hey I resemble that remark most of the time.
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I can put wallpaper onto my desktop. Other than that the root window of my Window Manager cannot hold anything else at all. There is no directory that corresponds to it. It is just that, a background window that other windows can be drawn on.
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We already have powerful search. It is called find and mlocate. Then there's whereis.
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@Speykious I did not forget grep. I do not like to promote inelegant solutions. Though sometimes it is expedient.
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Linux does not have folders. Linux has directories. We still use a folder icon for directories though. Quite frankly I do not know what a directory looks like. Those are the things in the lobbies of big buildings aren't they? So it's more like ls -R.
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@pauliewalnuts2527 Windows has folders and Linux has directories. Folders are an abstraction and directories map to physical locations. From an end user perspective there's no practical difference between the two usually.
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@pauliewalnuts2527 I am more familiar than I want to be with that other operating system.
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@GarryGri no I am thinking of folders when I say folders. I do not use Apple products either. I do not use the term, "folder" here. So not everywhere. The term, "folder" is most definitely an abstraction of the directory structure. When you add a layer that is removed from the original item you have added a layer of abstraction. Calling one thing something else in the name of sounding more friendly is abstraction.
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This video must really speak to a macaroon like you. There are reasons!
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@billeterk that would be one. The same reasons they did it in the past still apply today though. Inodes can only hold so many pointers. Plus it is chaos to throw everything into one place. I don't want to be presented with everything on one screen. It's like piling all of your crap up. Here you go good luck with it.
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@billeterk Those who do not understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
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@billeterk get sure.
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