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Comments by "Paul Frederick" (@1pcfred) on "Physicist Brian Greene Has a Theory on Why Aliens Haven’t Visited Us" video.
There's two kinds of life. There's passive life and there's aggressive life. We're the latter variety which is the kind that is curious and explores. The form of life that we're most likely to run into. So Joe is right in assuming they're going to have traits like we do.
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@fishfire_2999 yes I believe it is his quote.
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Nature repeats. It's why patterns exist in this reality. They're emergent.
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Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
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He is following his programming.
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100 years ago the Moon was too far away. A thousand years ago the New World was too far away for most folks to get to.
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The most intelligent don't always achieve the most on this planet. So who's to say it is any different anywhere else? Maybe aliens have a hive mind? We could get to the Moon any time we wanted to. We simply lack the motivation. There's no good reason to go. There was when we went. But that was then and this is now. Drive beats intellect. Someone with average IQ will outperform someone smarter if the smarter person lacks drive. If we found out this planet was going to be destroyed in 100 years you'd better believe you'd see some changes. A lot of folks would discover drive they never knew they had. They would not be any smarter but they'd achieve more.
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@hugoking9778 A flight to Mars takes 9 months today. Interstellar flight can be accomplished using generational ships. If you really need to go you'll get there as fast as you can. If as fast as you can is tens of thousands of years then oh well. Star Trek ain't real. Deal with it.
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@hugoking9778 we are no more intelligent than our ancestors were yet we are capable of technological feats they weren't. Intellect has nothing to do with knowledge.
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@hugoking9778 it may turn out that there is no way around the limits of accelerating mass in our Universe. Which would limit us to going below the speed of light. It would limit anything. Us, ET, whatever. That may simply be how it is. But if that is the case it still might not deter the intrepid from making interstellar journeys. They'll just take a very long time.
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@hugoking9778 knowledge is definitely not intellect. An encyclopedia contains a vast amount of knowledge. It is still a stack of inert books though. Intelligence is being able to take disparate ideas and synthesize novel useful new ones. That a dusty stack of books cannot do.
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@hugoking9778 we did not descend from Neanderthals. They were a separate branch of evolution. They just discovered that Neanderthals could make string. Can you? Our ancestors did not have the social safety net that we all enjoy today. So they either thought on their feet or they died. They needed a vast array of skills and knowledge to survive in their world. Where you wouldn't last a week. You cannot even imagine the conditions they lived in let along navigate the land they lived on. You'd literally be wandering around lost in endless wilderness. Back then they did not need jails. They simply cast members of their tribe out to fend for themselves. See ya, good luck! That itself was a death sentence.
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@hugoking9778 if you're so smart then how come you're worm food? It's because you're not nearly as smart as you think you are. Dunning Kruger.
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@hugoking9778 well we share 50% of our DNA with a banana. Does that mean we belong in bunches? We're even more closely related to fruit flies. Perhaps that explains why some have the effect of bugging me? Science is not religion. The method gets us closer to the truth but you need to realize there are no absolutes. Facts have a tendency to change over time as our knowledge increases too.
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@hugoking9778 that is not true. I cannot add pages to an encyclopedia and in doing so make it any smarter. Knowledge is static and intellect is dynamic. I know a lot of people struggle with the topic of epistemology. I've had conversations like this in the past. Trust me when I say I know what I'm talking about here. I've thought a lot about the process of thought. It isn't what most think either.
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Then GTFO
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The odds are very good that there's something else out there. We're just not good at looking yet. We really haven't been at it for all that long.
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It is funny that UFOs did not manifest themselves until after the dawn of the atomic age. That leads me to believe they are a manifestation of the stressed human psyche. When people can't cope with the pressure their minds do funny things.
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@fishfire_2999 the scariest words you can ever hear are, "I'm from the government and I am here to help."
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@fishfire_2999 whose mouth? Did you mean Ronald Raygun?
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@gregoryheidt1851 everyone knows the first thing any aliens say is, "Take me to your leader." Come on man.
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@Le_Church our Universe has not been as it is now for its entire existence. Steady state fell out of vogue a long time ago. So conditions for life to arise are somewhat recent. If there's one thing that's becoming clear to us it is that life arises as quickly as it can. If it is going to happen then it happens fast. Our Sun the star Sol is one of the earliest stable stars that we know of. We estimate it to be probably a 4th generation star in this Universe. The protostars that existed before it had extremely short lifespans. They all went boom. When your star explodes it is never good for your species.
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Time is relative to the observer. We have to correct for time differences with our GPS satellite grid. Because they experience time differently than we do on Earth. They're moving further from the gravity of the planet than we are. It is enough of a difference that if we didn't adjust for it we'd lose precision with our coordinates.
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4.24 billion year timeline so far.
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We'd better be. Because this planet is going to be engulfed by our own sun long before then. I don't think time travel is possible either. Because if it was we wouldn't exist. Someone would have screwed things up already.
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@jackgreen5627 we all time travel. It is just a one way trip.
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When you look up at the sky at night what do you see? A bunch of stars? They're a lot alike, aren't they? That's the nature of our reality. A lot is alike.
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@christianheath718 simple observation.
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@hoemie2587 we are rational beings that's who. We do not need to know how everything works in order to know how some basic things work either. For that matter who are you to say that we're infants? We might be the best there is.
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@hoemie2587 there are clever people among us that have reached certain conclusions about the nature of nature itself. Like how patterns emerge out of chaos. The process of emergence is something that can be observed all around. If you're of a mind to comprehend such things.
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@hoemie2587 even a broken clock is still right twice a day. You can be right for the wrong reasons.
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The Universe is not that old nor has it been capable of supporting life the entire time it has existed either. The early Universe was a very chaotic place.
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@estarateta to be clear about what I consider reality to be best estimates put our Universe at about 14.7 billion years old today. Our solar system is 4.25 billion years old. I hope that helps you out.
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@estarateta if a tree falls in the woods and there's no one there to hear it does it make any noise? Of course it does. But it is still academic. We didn't hear it so it does not really impact our existence. So by the same token even if there are trillions races of super aliens out there but I never see one does it matter to me? I emphatically state, no, it does not. No more than the sound of a tree crashing down in a forest that I will never visit. I do not care!
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@estarateta we likely will not discover definitive proof of ET in my lifetime. The law of large numbers works both for and against us. So for all practical purposes from my perspective we're it. And that's all it'll ever be for me. At the same time I can entertain the notion that it is likely there's something else out there. I can hold two disparate thoughts in my mind at the same time. I'm just gifted that way. But without concrete proof I do need to weight the reality I know the heaviest.
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@estarateta we've faced crisis before. So perhaps we'll muddle through the challenges we're up against now. Which is mainly ourselves. Nature does seem to have a way of striking a healthy balance with all creatures. Whether we like the solution, or not.
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@Zwenk Wiel perhaps. Anything's possible. Lacking any data whatsoever the best we can do is speculate at this point. What's most amusing is despite having any facts how many are so defensive of their personal pet theories here. When the truth is often stranger than fiction is.
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Let me get this straight, you're worried about bald men wearing fezzes that drive clown cars? These are the people that are going to take over the planet? https://0419308.netsolhost.com/WordPress/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/shriners-parades.jpg
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If I catch ants on my kitchen counter I have a meaningful interaction with them. Usually in the form of one of them bait traps that kills the nest.
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Someone obviously has not read Piers Anthony's Macroscope novel.
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10X more of a very small number remains a very small number itself.
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Organic life is just one early primitive phase of the cycle. We're doing our damnedest right now to develop the tech to destroy ourselves. Someday we'll succeed too.
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Things may not be how you expect but I am not you.
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No primitive civilization has ever survived contact with a more advanced civilization. The primitives just get wiped out.
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We do not study every anthill though.
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