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Comments by "Paul Frederick" (@1pcfred) on "US Special Forces Combat Controller Helmet Cam Firefight With Taliban Firing From Several Directions" video.
We never had a problem with the Taliban. It was Al Queda that we had issue with.
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There's no oil in Afghanistan. We went there to kill terrorists.
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Let's not forget that thousands of Americans died on 9/11. They were all civilians too. So maybe those Afghans shouldn't have had those people in their country. Feudal warlord state, or whatever it is.
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@lumierdujour my safety justifies killing however many it takes. So you'd better make damned sure you're not living next door to a terrorist. Because if you end up collateral damage I am not going to cry for you.
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What did they lose?
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We were not there to liberate anyone. That was a bunch of wank piled on as the mission progressed. It was a way of creating power for people to wield. When you're in charge of material and funds your position is elevated in this world. It's complicated. Well maybe not but I'm not in the mood to explain it now.
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You're damned right we didn't want to expand the conflict. Remind me where you were at the Chosin reservoir. Where one million screaming Chinese charged US forces.
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Snipped? I didn't see him running with scissors.
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We shot the guy that started it in the head. Is that good enough for you?
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All over the globe, if you need to know. Ask your buddy Solimani what it's like to have a target on your back. He took 4 Hellfire missiles where the sun don't shine. Now he's sitting at the aloha snackbar.
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How did the USA get beat? Your analysis falls far short of being intelligent.
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That's not where Dante said that soldiers end up.
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It helps to have something to fight for. I guess it is hard to get Afghans to fight for much. Being as there's not much to fight for there. You know what they call a piece of sandpaper in Afghanistan? A detailed terrain map.
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Don't you have a suicide vest to wear?
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Which Middle East war are you referring to? There have been a number of them. In fact so many I'm not sure they can even be counted. Just the ones the USA have been involved with have had different purposes themselves.
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Yeah but revenge is always worth whatever it costs.
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You can call what they're doing suppressive fire. The people they're shooting at don't know they're not aiming. Plenty of people have been struck by rounds that weren't specifically aimed at them too. Bullets are just generally dangerous when in flight.
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We knew enough about them to kill them. Knowing any more wouldn't have done us any good.
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That's combat. It ain't pretty.
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live, die. Least those with swords live on their own terms.
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Modern military helmets were first developed in World War 1 to keep soldiers in trenches safe from shrapnel from artillery barrages. There wasn't so much of that going on in Afghanistan. Which is to say the utility of wearing a helmet there is debatable. The first guy to wear a helmet was a crazed Frenchman that put a stew pot on his head. Then it was determined that's why he survived an attack. So they took the idea and ran with it. The first helmets issued were modified firefighters helmets. That's why the French helmets looked so strange.
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His countrymen died while they were home at the hands of people from that country. So what you say is proven wrong by observable reality.
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We weren't there for oil. We were there on a humanitarian fertilizer mission. Enriching the soil with the blood of our enemies.
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Those same men that have F-18's, A-10's, Apaches, AC-130's, and Drones dropping laser guided munitions also developed the Internet you're using right now. So either start admiring the people who created the world you live in or go milk a goat.
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That's the beauty of bombs. They have an area effect.
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I was thinking why doesn't the military have that round detecting tech? The stuff we use in cities to determine where gunshots are coming from. Surely they can develop something that uses GPS and can do that in situ. Just drop some mics here and there for triangulation. Or just use drones with thermal imaging. I mean come on it's the 21st century.
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When they start out referring to someone in the past tense you can be pretty sure they die.
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As far as bombs go a 500 pounder is "small" but it's still 192 pounds of high explosive in a fragmentation jacket. So pretty lethal to people out in the open. I wouldn't want to be in a football stadium if one landed in the middle of the field.
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@2_Bike_is_Life we actually grow all of our own opium. Well, all of our legal supply. The government is not officially interested in the illicit drugs. Any claim that it is remains an unfounded conspiracy theory. The policy enforced in Afghanistan was to not molest the crops but to interdict any shipments that tried to get out of the country. We would seize any we found at the border. I imagine that was destroyed too. Or they were simply turned back?
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I should hope you're terrified of our soldiers. Any sane person aware of history would be.
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@atifrehmanfarooqui1429 if we want the job done right then we need to do it ourselves. They may be willing but they're just not capable. You need to study history to see just what we've done. We invaded one island that was held by 25,000 enemy forces. 12 of those were left alive when the battle was done. The rest didn't swim away either. I'll give you some advice, when the US shows up just surrender. You'll be saving everyone involved a lot of grief. Because you're going down anyways! Once we entered a village that hung surrender flags out. Then a sniper took some pot shots at us. So we pulled out and shelled the village with artillery all night long. Then in the morning we marched back in. No one took any shots then. Mess with the US and die like the rest. We play for keeps.
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@atifrehmanfarooqui1429 Are you saying the combined Axis armies were not our size? At one time we were fighting them in three different theaters of operation. When we fought in South East Asia those were proxy wars. Those enemies we were fighting were being aided by China and the USSR. When we invaded Iraq they had the 4th largest standing army on the planet. Three days later they were substantially reduced. But when it kicked off they had significant forces. I thought they were going to put up a better fight.
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@atifrehmanfarooqui1429 oh so now it's our fault all of our enemies are no match for us? I guess they need to try harder.
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I would not say they died for no reason. The Afghanistan mission was a punitive action against those that perpetrated 9/11. In that I'd declare the mission a success. That particular group that carried out the attack against our nation no longer exists. Now there were stretch goals that were not achieved. Mission creep is a dangerous thing.
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Regime change was not the original mission. Although it did become a stretch goal to enrich our own corrupt. They got rich off it so you can say mission accomplished there too. No one gave a fuck what happened to the Afghans. Why should we? They don't even seem to care about themselves.
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@roceye so we didn't kill who we went there to kill? Maybe you were looking for more out of but but if you were I say you expect too much.
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Our tax dollars at work. He taught that hill of sand and rocks a lesson.
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How did we lose? Do you even know why we were there?
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@arasharma on 9/11/2001 the US suffered the greatest attack on our soil by a foreign enemy. Which we determined came from a group that was in Afghanistan. So we went there to kill them. It seemed like the right thing to do at the time.
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