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To look at it now I'd say it still barely exists.
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Time marches on. I remember going on a tour of Cape Canaveral and it was like looking at ruins. That was back in the 70s too. I can't imagine stuff is in much better shape today.
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Bratton and Bardeen were both living in my home town when they made the discovery up at the Labs. Shockley lived in Manhattan. He wasn't even really working on the project when the breakthrough happened. Scott mentions UNIX briefly and Dennis Ritchie grew up in my home town too. He's the R in K & R C. When I was in grammar school the geeks from the labs put on an assembly for my school about lasers. It was hilarious. That whole place was an insane asylum.
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@Wulthrin I don't know if property owners get funded automatically. I do know they have to comply with regulations though. The government will happily sue your ass out of existence if you mess with a landmark. That they'd come up with the money for.
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A long time ago things weren't like they are now.
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Shut up and pay your property taxes!
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You're surprised? How many do you think really care about such things? Most people think the Earth is flat for crying out loud.
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@brickbunny9686 work may lead to prosperity. It really depends on what work you're engaged in. Some work is less rewarding than other work is. Plenty of folks have worked very hard and had nothing to show for it. A few dishonest people have become wealthy too.
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@brickbunny9686 I do not live in a community. So that's nothing I know about. Where I live folks keep to themselves. I live in a low population density area. I can't even see my neighbors. It's really a woods for the trees problem here.
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@brickbunny9686 there's only one skill today that's valuable and our leaders know what that is. That's people skills. When you can get other people to do what you need done then you're set.
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If it's a designated national historic landmark then good luck developing it. Even when it's just a pile of rust on the ground no one could touch it.
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@RWBHere I know what it is. There are other financial concerns at play here that are more important. The land that site sits on is valuable. I'm sure the current owner wishes to develop it profitably. So that contraption sitting in the way is an impediment. It's best left forgotten.
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The treasure is the knowledge and that we still have.
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@robertmandell526 Google built Android with Linux. Which is a UNIX-alike OS. Linux shares no code with UNIX though. I think years ago Linux used a bit of BSD code in the user space? But that was all replaced. Linux is a free implementation of Minix. Apple uses BSD for their OS. That's because the BSD license allows you to close the source code. BSD is not GPL. Why UNIX ended up at Berkeley was because of monopoly laws. The government decided a phone company shouldn't be in the OS business.
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@robertmandell526 I grew up next door to Bell Labs. So perhaps it was down to location why I am familiar with any of it. Plus where technology came from is a topic that interests me. It sickens me that some people think we stole it from crashed space ships. If you go digging you can find the whole long painful story. It was all very human achievement. We made rapid progress but that's down to simple economics. The people that made progress were financially rewarded. So they had strong motivation.
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There's a lot of politicians in New Jersey that have pockets that need to be filled. That's for sure.
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The plaque says it is on the national historic registry. Which means if you want to touch it then you have to conform to all kinds of regulations. You'd have to get period correct screws to screw that corrugated sheet back on etc. I think you can just let it fall apart and you don't have to comply with anything though.
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@Dug6666666 Scott said the whole site has been sold. Once something lands on the historic registry no one can touch it then. Well, you can fix it up. But it has to remain appearing the same. At least that's how I understand how it works. I worked on a historic site once. That seemed to be the criteria we worked with. You can fix it up but it has to look like it did originally when you're done.
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