Comments by "MrSirhcsellor" (@MrSirhcsellor) on "Thunderf00t"
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If I may, as far as I’m aware, the only thing that’s unknown/unverified about gravity at the current moment, is how exactly mass bends the fabric of space time, as in what mechanism is causing it. Whether it exists or not isn’t a question, things fall, it’s one of the easiest phenomenons of nature to observe. All other possible causes to the phenomenon have been falsified, while mass attracting mass through the curvature of space time has been observed and measured and tested rigorously, with all attempts to falsify it having failed. So what do you want science to conclude?
Being ignorant to the science isn’t a valid argument against it, denying the science simply because it’s not convenient for a bias position you hold isn’t very logical either. From what I’ve seen, that’s really all Flat Earth has done in its attempt to undermine gravity, deny it exists, rather than actually attempt at falsifying it.
Most are not so much angry as they are slightly frustrated, with how unreasonable a small minority are, when it comes to some physics. Though I suppose I can’t speak for everyone, but it should be pretty understandable, that scientists would get a bit annoyed by layman telling them how to do their jobs, essentially. It’s fair to have an opinion...but you’re really not falsifying gravity, by just simply denying it exists...yet these groups feel they can wipe away hundreds of years of science, without any process of falsification anyway. Science isn’t necessarily about proving things, having that sort of mindset is how you end up chasing bias. Science is more about falsification, doing everything you can to falsify a hypothesis, leaving only the likeliest conclusion. In that sense, I admire Flat Earth, because by this standard, nothing should be off the table for debate...but ignorance and denial are not how you go about it I’m afraid.
The unreasonable part comes from this mindset that thinks in absolutes, and thinks science does as well, holding this belief that if every detail of a concept is not known or understood completely yet, it must mean by default it’s not been proven yet. Science doesn’t work like that, it doesn’t really think in absolutes, it thinks in percentages of certainty, the conclusions being the highest percentage, with the most evidence supporting it.
What’s even more odd however, is these same individuals put such a standard of review on modern science, while never thinking these same standards should apply to them, conforming to a model that doesn’t work and is not representative of reality beyond “it looks flat”. An example is the dome firmament, is it safe to assume you believe this dome/container exists? If so, what evidence do you have that led you to that conclusion? Has it been observed? Measured? Interacted with in any way at all? What experiments have been done to verify its existence, beyond a shotty understanding of how atmospheric pressure physics works?
See the hypocrisy here a little bit? From what I’ve seen thus far, is a lot of layman, asking a great many questions of the heliocentric model and modern science, telling us how absurd it is to believe in a force we don’t know everything about yet (even though is has been measured and observed, and the modern understanding is currently used in applied science today), while at the same time believing in a massive dome, that’s never been tested, measured, or observed.
It’s pretty one sided, almost like confirmation bias leads your thinking, more than you probably realize.
But it’s fine really, the debate is a fun refresher on the science and a good exercise into how science has reached the conclusions it has. In all fairness as well, I am glad that SOMEBODY is still out there attempting to falsify established science like gravity. That’s what science is all about, asking questions, so who knows what they may find. I just wish they’d take it more seriously, rather than just doing it to spite science, to appease whatever resentment they have for science. That’s the vibe I get mostly, but by all means, if I’m ignorant to something yet to be explained or demonstrated to me, by all means, feel free to share.
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