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Comments by "" (@thehumanity0) on "Yang Admits He's Been Lying About Medicare For All" video.
Yang is now becoming the new Pete Buttigieg on the issue of healthcare, a similar politician who originally argued that a public option was totally unfeasible but now, 6 months later, spends millions of dollars to destroy the public support for Medicare for All.
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Yang is like a truth-teller without the truth
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That's exactly the reasoning for why pushing for anything short of Medicare for All in this election (especially in the primary) is just incredibly bad politics and policy. If we eventually are forced to compromise in the Senate and House, it sure as shit better be for AT LEAST a public option (or opt-out private option) and not some new form of Romneycare like Obama gave us when he similarly went in to negotiations with the compromise position. Joe Biden and Yang would definitely just give us Romneycare 2.0, while Warren is likely to unless she proves she won't pivot in the general.
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Many of us have been trying to warn people about Yang for months. It's not until he starts telling you his positions up-front that people really start to see what's behind the curtain. Imagine if Pete Buttigieg had still been pretending to support Medicare for All at this point (and hadn't flipped on it so quickly), imagine that smug prick with real left-wing supporters who are insanely devoted to him. Thank god at least Yang is telling the truth now and not when the voting starts, same with Buttigieg.
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@greenith I actually partially agree with you, I always knew Yang was bullshitting about Medicare for All. I saw the signs a long time ago and was trying to warn people he wasn't for it. Now he's saying it up-front and many of his supporters or potential supporters are acting surprised. To answer your question though, the problem is that he had Medicare for All up on his website. Medicare for All is not some "framework" like Warren likes to say, it's a BILL in the Senate and House that phase out private insurance and expand Medicare to everyone. What Yang is NOW saying about a public option would not phase out private insurance, he wants to cater the market around the for-profit private insurance industry that is predatory by nature when you have them creating duplicate plans that only work to undermine and weaken the Single Payer system so Republicans could inevitably destroy it after 4 years just as they did with Obamacare. The boarder issue though is that Yang was being dishonest about his support for Bernie's Medicare for All bill, he should've never had it on his website, and if he did he should've called it something else. He mislead many of his supporters.
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@greenith The private option is only eliminated for duplicative care. Those are things that would only be redundant and unnecessary under a Medicare for All system since Medicare for All would already cover essential health needs and it is fully funded by a Single insurer, the government, i.e. "Single Payer". Anything that goes above and beyond the coverage of Medicare for All would still allow for private insurance, it goes into the realm of supplemental insurance (insurance that is extra). This would still allow for rich people to buy overly-priced insurance for things they likely don't need, but the problem with the duplicative private insurance is that the only purpose is to completely DUPLICATE the Medicare for All insurance and then dishonestly market it to pick people off their current plans that are currently free at the point of service (and they pay tax dollars for). All the duplicative private insurance does is scam people and allow the predatory private insurance market to continue and potentially grow (and destroy a Single Payer system) when the rational answer is just to eliminate that and just allow supplemental for people who want 'extra'. Does that make sense to you?
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Lol at the Yang supporters now arguing about how Yang wants "access" for everyone. Access does not equal healthcare, if it did everyone would currently be covered in a system where I could potentially go to Blue Shield right now and buy a plan with money I don't have.
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@prometheus575 That's how you know he's gonna fight for it and go to the mat over it. The fact that the only additions other candidates have to make about Medicare for All just make it objectively shittier, just shows you Bernie is the only rational pick for president if you care about a Single Payer healthcare system and care about 45,000 people not dying from lack of healthcare every year.
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@epona9166 More to hurt the Left than to help anyone. The reason why he attacks a wealth tax, his UBI is funded by a regressive tax and slashing social programs, his Climate plan is mostly just a regressive carbon tax (the same reason France had yellow-vest protests), he wants to deregulate the market with sunset clauses on Wall Street regulations, he's arguing against breaking up big tech and monopolies, and then he STILL tries to market himself as "more progressive" and "a more updated version" of Bernie Sanders.
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@darrenfaber2334 "which exists nowhere in the world". Don't look too hard, if you just go 5 miles north of us, you'll find a country called Canada that bans duplicative private insurance because it's predatory by nature.
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@greenith "Anyone can see what is a duplicate insurance" That's not true at all. Insurance is a complex and confusing topic, the insurance companies only try to make it even more confusing so they can scam people. If you give these predatory industries an inch, they will take a mile. They will actively run misinformation advertising campaigns and continue to deceive people into buying insurance they don't need. It makes sense to only legally allow insurance that is actually providing something EXTRA to your current benefits. However, as someone I believe pointed out in this very video, there is a way to effectively allow for duplicative private insurance and that is to have doctors take minimum percentage of Medicare for All patients by law and make the private insurance companies nonprofits and take out the profit margin so they're not scamming people to make short-term profits. I seriously don't know why anyone is in favor for leaving these insurance companies to continue to price gouge and scam people, we've all been victims of it at one time or another.
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@gordthor5351 "if you steal away their beloved private insurance" LOL, who the fuck actually likes their insurance company? People like their doctors. You think anyone is seriously saying "But what about my Aetna and AIG??" WHY won't anyone think of the insurance companies?!" People don't have choice under the system we have now, you take whatever your employer gives you and if you're self-employed, you take whatever you can afford. The idea of "choice" is so easy to debunk, the talking point is repeated in the media to protect the insurance companies, don't make me laugh.
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@KEVINLOPEZ-np4kj You must not have watched the video or seen any interview from him in the past 3 weeks.
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@AhsimNreiziev Doesn't change the very real likelihood that she's nearly guaranteed to pivot on it in the general election if she wins the nomination. Just ask billionaire Harry Reid what he thinks about Warren's support for Medicare for All.
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@manplaysguitarmoreat117 Your citing polls that are dishonest in their framing. When you explain it to people and let them know, under Medicare for All you can go to any doctor you want and it doesn't eliminate supplemental private insurance (insurance that provides something 'extra'), the polling shoots right back up with around 70% support and a majority of even Republicans who support it.
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@darrenfaber2334 Yang showed subtle signs of not actually supporting Medicare for All in random interviews so, of course, people should've known he wasn't actually for it even though he had it plastered on the front of his website for nearly a year. -- That's some amazing logic you have there, blaming people for believing Yang was being straightforward about his policy on healthcare when clearly everyone should've known he was being misleading.
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