Comments by "" (@thehumanity0) on "Bernie Explains the Trump-Putin Summit" video.

Yes, and so did Russia. Why is it only allowed to be one or the other?
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+Ms Sha Sha - Yeah I agree. It seems like most people in this country can only handle one or the other. The establishment media thinks that the Russia cyber attacks excuse the DNC fuckery, while people like "Vanessa" think that the DNC fuckery excuses the Russia cyber attacks trying to hack directly into the vote in state election boards in swing states. They are both mutually problematic, but it seems like only the minority of people see it that way since most people are focusing on only one or the other, which is just silly.
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+doubtingmantis - Oh please, Bernie is to this day, the establishment's biggest fear and the Democratic Party is freaking out trying to find a way to stop him from winning their own Democratic nomination in 2020 because they know he's going to force money out of politics and force corporations like Amazon to give their workers the salary and rights they deserve. You gave him money back when he was running on the Democratic ticket and you're upset because he's going to run on the Democratic ticket again in 2020? You're either a huge moron or just exercising fake outrage and never donated to him in the first place.
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+Cynthia Johnson - All the events that have transpired are "evidence". For fucks sake, go read the 29 page indictment they just released, it's overwhelmingly detailed in how the 12 agents were running their subterfuge operations and how they gained access to the state election boards and the DNC servers. Mueller and Rosenstein are lifelong Republicans, does it seriously make sense why they would be setting up their own party and the Trump admin with completely faked evidence? You're the conspiracy theorist here claiming that nothing can be trusted from US intelligence agencies or the judicial branch anymore. You want to use an example back from the 2000s when there was bad intelligence surrounding WMDs in Iraq and using it as reasoning to trust Trump and Putin over the US institutions (including a judge and grand jury on several occasions that was not involved back in 2003), but you're not even taking it into consideration that it was the executive branch back in 2003, W. Bush, who lied to the American people and exploited bad intelligence to declare war on a country we had no business being in even if they had poorly manufactured WMDs. You're essentially telling people to distrust all US institutions to trust the executive branch, when we know for certain that the executive branch was far more to blame for the Iraq War than the intelligence agencies. You're logic is massively flawed and you're screaming at Bernie just because he doesn't succumb to your broken logic.
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No you'd rather believe the words of Trump and the same executive branch office that DECLARED WAR on Iraq and were the ones that lied to the American people. The presidency has lied to the people far more than the intelligence agencies and the special council operates within the bounds of the judicial branch which is why they need a judge and grand jury to warrant the indictments. The intelligence back in 2003 had no such checks and balances and Bush was the one that exploited the bad intel in the first place for his own retarded agenda. Yes, let's trust Trump who has proven to everyone to be so trustworthy. Are you insane?
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+Vanessa Martinez - The DNC and Russia can both be criticized for what they did. Just because one did something does not excuse the other. The same goes for not letting the DNC off the hook just because Russia hacked the state election boards and DNC, but what you're proposing is exactly the opposite by letting Russia off the hook for doing cyber attacks on US democracy just because the DNC is to blame for your candidate being cheated. Btw I'm a hardcore Bernie supporter.
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+Purple Nurple - People are bringing up the Iraq War intelligence as a reason to not trust our intelligence agencies, when in reality, it was the executive branch (Bush) that lied, exploited that info and was the one that declared war on the wrong country. Even if the WMDs were there, why did Bush have to declare war? North Korea has WMDs and according to Trump so does Iran (even though the intelligence agencies say they are in full compliance), are we at war with them? The thing is you're making an excuse to not trust every single intelligence agency in the US with information they all agree on as reasoning to instead trust the executive branch, who were the ones that were far more to blame for the Iraq War considering Bush was the one that declared war when it was clearly a way of exploiting the fear surrounding 9/11 and bad intelligence. How can you claim to want to trust the executive branch (Trump) by distrusting intelligence agencies and a separate special council using an example where the executive branch was far more to blame for the Iraq war than the intelligence agencies who, as far as we know, just fucked up their job and reported bad intelligence. That logic makes absolutely no sense.
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Because no one in Washington ever wants to hear the truth
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Yes, but you are both making the argument that Trump's position can be trusted over the intelligence agencies and special council. I never said you should fully trust the intelligence agencies, but I'm making the case that all of the largest 4 intelligence agencies agreeing upon the same conclusion and giving highly detailed information on their findings are far more trustworthy than the massive conflict of interests and lies Trump exudes on a daily basis. In this situation its the word of Donald Trump over the US intelligence agencies and the special council who DOES operate within the judicial branch. We know for a fact Trump wants to disrupt the investigation even though he "has nothing to hide" and has obstructed justice several times, whereas the special council has been upfront about everything so far even though you want to refuse the indictments entirely and claim they are faking evidence apparently. Mueller and Rosenstein have been lifelong Republicans, why would it make sense for them to turn on the Republican president and GOP and apparently fake the evidence to do so which is just beyond the bounds of logic at this point considering the details they have put into their reports and indictments, which actually make sense and fall into place with the rest of the investigation when you look at them.
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A judge and grand jury must have thought there was enough evidence to proceed with the indictments. The special counsel is not operating like the "deep state", they are operating within the bounds of the justice system. That is where this argument has deep gashes in logic that you apparently think every intelligence agency AND the special counsel are somehow lying and faking evidence entirely. Sounds like something only Alex Jones could come up with.
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https://www.vox.com/2018/7/13/17568806/mueller-russia-intelligence-indictment-full-text This is just the most recent indictment and it's something like 29 pages going into how they gained unauthorized access into certain institutions and the DNC, what malware they used to unknowingly transfer the data, how they then released the data, what digital infrastructure they bought, and how they laundered the money required to do so using bitcoin, etc. If they made all that shit up out of thin air then that's very impressive considering it all fits with the events that happened over the 2016 timeframe and according to the indictments, it shows exact timestamps on when certain online actions were made by the conspirators that broke into the organizations.
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Bernie and nearly everyone are not calling for WW3. That is such a strawman argument just because people don't want a foreign government hacking directly into the vote. Only the most extreme neoliberal pundit on MSNBC is even slightly calling for "war" and that hardly counts as a valid opinion at all. Most people just don't want Trump embarrassing the country by siding with Russian intelligence over US intelligence on international TV.
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