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Comments by "" (@thehumanity0) on "Bernie vs. Rand Paul on Russian Interference" video.
+Dave La Violette - Go read the 29 page indictment. How is that not evidence? It's highly detailed on how the agents broke into several institutions and includes timestamps and exact events/actions that happened and fits with the timeframe during the 2016 campaign. This idea that there's "no evidence" is complete and utter bullshit. You don't want to believe it because you're already drinking that narrative. Apparently the agencies briefed Trump and members of Congress before his inauguration with "highly classified information and evidence" and Trump agreed with them that Russia interfered, but then did a 180 the next day and started calling it a "witch hunt".
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Bernie has openly condemned Israel and his policy concerning Israel has only strengthened over the years so you sound like an idiot. Also, even harsh critics now agree that Russia interfered. Only the most irrational people believe that Russia didn't do shit in 2016, which is apparently what you are considering the most recent 29 page indictment and mounting evidence stacked against you. If this is a secret conspiracy by Mueller, then it must be the most biggest monster fucking conspiracy in all of history the likes of which we've never seen. Even bigger than how Bush did 9/11 if you still believe that one too.
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+Dr. Winston O'boogie - The only thing that can be called "economic warfare" are Trump's idiotic 'tariffs' that help no one and hurt only the US. Sanctions are used for economic pressure to avoid military action. I've seen you make the same silly argument 10 times now.
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Go read the 29 page indictment you fool. It gives timestamps and large amounts of details in what happened.
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+Reuben Holland - Except they also tried to break directly into the vote by gaining unauthorized access into the state election boards in swing states. Does that not matter either? Should we just let foreign powers mess with the vote? You're narrative is only stopping politicians from taking actions to protect our elections and switch to paper ballots or take some action at the very least to stop potential chaos from happening in 2018 or 2020.
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+Reuben Holland - Deflection is not going to help your case and both Bernie and Gabbard have both called for paper ballots and the only people in Congress that even support it are Democrats.
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Agreed. Both Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard (and possibly more) have called for utilizing paper ballots as well but apparently Rand Paul and the GOP think that's a crazy proposition as well because they all ignored it both times it was brought up.
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Except that the president and members of Congress have literally been shown the highly classified evidence and indisputable proof, which apparently Trump himself agreed with behind closed doors before he was sworn in yet was still constantly tweeting about it being a "witch hunt". They're not just asking the president and members of Congress to trust them in blind faith. The amount of evidence and details in the cyber attacks available to the public are already massively stacked against what you're saying and anyone with clearance likely knows the truth beyond a shadow of a doubt. Bernie is doing what he always does, what he knows to be the 'right thing'.
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Bush was the one that lied not the intelligence agencies who were not in agreement back in 2003, so even if they were right, it was foolish and deceptive of Bush to declare an illegal war on bad intel that was conflicting between agencies. You're asking us to trust the executive branch who has lied to us far far MORE than the intelligence agencies, which has primarily just been the CIA which has been a puppet for the executive branch in US history like how JFK executed the Bay of Pigs and how Reagan funded the Contras and gave Iran weapons. If anything, the CIA should be abolished considering the president has given it the largest budget out of all the agencies and it has always done the most harm. It's incorrect to lump the CIA in with the other intelligence agencies who are not a part of the executive branch, however, even the CIA which was headed by Mike Pompeo who is now the Secretary of State had turned their back on their boss of the executive branch and agreed with the assessment of the intelligence agencies meaning that you're literally making a comparison between all US intelligence and info gathering institutions in this country vs Donald Trump a reality TV star who has a million and a half conflicts of interests and possibly the most corrupt politician in US history. The logic in your assessment is absolutely fucking ridiculous.
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Protecting the Mueller investigation from obstruction of justice from Trump, forcing Trump to cooperate with the Mueller investigation, and enforcing the sanctions overwhelmingly passed by Congress that Trump refused to enforce. Do those seriously sound like unreasonable proposals to you? Rand Paul is just sucking up to Trump again just like he did when he elected Mike Pompeo, a warmonger, as Secretary of State.
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+Misty - Congress voted to put sanctions on Russia last year as economic pressure to get them to stop doing cyber attacks and such. It was a long while ago now, but Trump has still not fully implemented them even though Congress passed them almost unanimously.
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+Empr4evr - You realize that they would have trials if Russia extradited them right? The only reason they wouldn't have trials is if they couldn't be arrested, however, Maria Butina, who was arrested on American soil already has a trial set and was arrested due to being a flight risk. And what are you talking about "press releases"? The indictments are 29 pages and they DO NOT say it doesn't prove anything, in fact, the whole thing says the opposite considering it outlines exactly how the crimes were done and how the cyber attacks took place with exact timestamps on the actions of the individuals. See for yourself: https://www.vox.com/2018/7/13/17568806/mueller-russia-intelligence-indictment-full-text
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Yes and calling it MacCarthyism when someone is just talking about protecting against foreign intervention in our elections is just straight up strawmanning.
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+Carl - The indictments themselves are proof you idiot. They have timestamps on specific dates, actions that happened, how everything was carried out in detail. You want to brainlessly make the claim that all of it just "faked"? You might as well go hang out with the InfoWars crowd if you're gonig to start making those assertions as if everyone in America is crazy except for the group of irrational people left who think there's no evidence. The whole fucking thing is evidence, when's that gonna sink in? And if that's not enough, the most recent 29 page indictment has more than enough evidence, go read it yourself. I'm sure you haven't.
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Read the fucking indictment, the whole thing is evidence. https://www.vox.com/2018/7/13/17568806/mueller-russia-intelligence-indictment-full-text Bernie's doing the right thing here even if you think he should be doing something else. Btw he's currently in Kansas and running town halls for union workers. He has enough time for both and is the only politician who actually spends the majority of his time focused on the working class.
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He never said "more sanctions", stop putting words in his mouth, we all saw the video. He said obey Congress and enforce the sanctions that are already there, which Trump hasn't done even though his own Party even voted for them. Sactions are not "economic war", they are economic pressure that avoid war, which is something Bernie has been heavily in favor for instead of crap like the Iraq war, Syria and other conflicts that could've been answered with economic sanctions instead of military intervention. Trump's bombing 8 different countries right now and you want to bitch about sanctions being "economic war". Give me a fucking break.
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