Comments by "" (@thehumanity0) on "Big Donors Were "Horrified" u0026 Thought Bernie Would Win" video.

"petrified of Trump, horrified of Bernie" says it all. Somehow the donor class is more scared of healthcare & childcare for the people than fascism from a reality show host like some fever dream.
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Or the DNC almost certainly manipulating the vote. Think about it this way. We know for a FACT the DNC rigged the vote in Iowa so Bernie wouldn't be announced as the technical winner even when the vote was more-or-less public, now think about what they did on Super Tuesday when the vote was private & all the exit polls confirm our worst fears.
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& the DNC almost certainly rigging the vote on Super Tuesday. We know for a FACT they rigged it in Iowa when the vote was basically open to the public. Not to mention the exit polls confirm our worst fears.
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@TheTaquitoProject I should also mention, there was a very long amount of time span when attacking Joe Biden was not strategically productive considering Joe Biden was doing so badly in the 9 person primary race, he was coming in 4th & 5th place in the first contests. The time when it was effective was to attack Biden was after Super Tuesday/Bloody Monday & by then the primary had been completely reconstructed by the DNC & Obama to be 100% favorable to the neoliberal candidate. Bernie should've been more ruthless in this period, but no matter what happened, it was setup to make it hard for anyone in Bernie's position to overcome, especially after Warren had tried so hard to create a divide between her voters & Bernie's.
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@PerthTowne Yeah, the exit polls in Texas & Massachusetts were larger than the amount that Bernie lost by. In nearly every state the exit poll discrepancies "strangely" always seemed to go against Bernie & in favor of Biden. Like I said, we know for a fact the DNC cheated in Iowa & those caucuses were largely public, the Super Tuesday votes were tallied behind closed doors by the DNC & they wildly skewed from the exit polls done the day of the election. Election results deviating by more than 1-2% from the exit polls is evidence & a measurement the US itself & international community uses to determine if there are fraudulent & rigged elections in foreign countries.
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zcbm88 He told the public he would not interfere in the election & then he literally made numerous moves behind the scenes to call all the "centrist" candidates & make backroom deals with them to drop out & all endorse Biden the day before Super Tuesday, basically reconstructing the entire makeup of a year and a half long election OVERNIGHT & the night before the vote was held, leaving no time for a debate or even any off-stage debate whatsoever. That's about as close to rigging an election as you get without actually doing anything illegal. It's gutter politics, immoral, & not how Democracy should work at all.
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@senseiadam-brawlstars9465 Bernie would be dominating right now if he was the nominee. He would be out there every day demanding change for ALL the people struggling during this pandemic. What makes you think that wouldn't be wildly popular considering the circumstances? Biden is leading in the polls & he's barely said a single fucking word. Now think about what it be like if you had someone who was demanding economic justice for the people who are getting absolutely hosed rn.
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@y.e.a.h5634 That's what MrEdium is alluding to. Obama was the one that called Buttigieg & CloudBootJar to drop out & likely did backroom deals with them despite Buttigieg refusing to drop out.
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@CAFEkatArt Totally. That's why in the 1930s the banking industry was trying to do a coup against FDR to install forces tied to the Nazi Party. Not sure what to call these Capitalist enterprises besides 'evil'.
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zcbm88 Not to mention, Obama was only able to make backroom deals because he has immense power & the DNC & Democratic establishment in his pocket along with powerful special interests. He was able to bribe & trade positions & power with the other presidential candidates to get them to fall in line to change the race in his favor. Meanwhile, Bernie has no power in the Party, corporate special interests hate him, & he only has the people on his side, which is why all the "endorsements" went to a guy who can't even finish a complete sentence & was coming in 4th & 5th place in the first two contests.
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I know. If Bernie was the nominee right now, this country would be demanding economic justice for everyone struggling in this Pandemic. Bernie would be out there every day calling for change for the people. It would have been the perfect setup for Bernie to win in the general and transform the country. We were so fucking close.
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@TheTaquitoProject "in terms of messaging" - Bernie's messaging was the reason he literally almost won & had rallies that had 30,000 people showing up. The handling of other candidates & whether to attack or not attack them is totally disconnected from the messaging.
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"It was because of Bernie's strategic failures" - Kyle, Bloody Monday is something I've literally never seen in modern political history. If Bernie had won Super Tuesday, he would be president. If he had simply just won Texas, there would've still been a race. But the issue was that, aside from the very likely election fraud on Super Tuesday, Biden & the DNC essentially made every candidate that would've taken from him drop out THE NIGHT BEFORE and back him, meanwhile Warren was staying in. You can make the case Bernie failed to adapt after Super Tuesday, but based on the Super Tuesday results, I fail to see how anyone could've still won after the race had been totally reconstructed by Obama & the DNC to 100% favor the neoliberal candidate, especially after Warren worked so hard to create a split between her & Bernie.
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The next Bernie could be someone who wins in 2022. Have hope, the world is changing in our favor & neoliberals are in fact losing power because we are slowly gaining it.
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@NotShowingOff Hail Mary Recordings isn't talking about South Carolina, they're referring to Super Tuesday & probably even Iowa as well. There was extremely likely election fraud going on on Super Tuesday to ensure Bernie lost Texas, Minnesota, Massachusetts & likely why Bernie didn't dominate more in California when the polls & exit polls the DAY OF the Election had him several points ahead of what the DNC tallied.
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Kyle's still in denial that the primary wasn't rigged from the very start in Iowa. The exit polls & tiny portions Bernie lost by on Super Tuesday are ridiculously suspect, and even though it wasn't technically criminal, Bloody Monday was one of the biggest debacles in modern political history orchestrated by sleazy backroom deals & the DNC/Obama.
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@PerthTowne Not exactly. There was always a certain point where Bernie could've won by over-winning (just as Kyle stated back during the primary). It's total bullshit & undemocratic, but if Bernie had been winning winnable states like he did in Nevada or New Hampshire at the very least, he could've edged out enough of a victory where stealing the election would've been outrageously obvious in the public's eye & caused a destructive backlash against the Democratic Party, the same thing that would've happened if they stole the nomination from him at the convention. Unfortunately, Bloody Monday not only allowed for dirty backroom deals by the DNC & Obama to determine the entire reconstruction of an election overnight (to favor the neoliberal candidate), but it also allowed for a greater manipulation of the vote due to polls changing so drastically from 2 major candidates dropping out & endorsing another in one single night before the vote (I'm of course talking about Pete & Amy dropping out to endorse Biden). Any drastic overnight changes & discrepancies from polling were then easily pushed aside by the media & blamed on a supposed "Biden surge" the media was relentless in propagandizing. The only thing we had to go by was the very few exit polls that release the raw data collected directly from the polling centers on election day. Even in that respect though, you have companies like CNN & others doing "exit polls" that are total bullshit because they "adjust the raw data to reflect the DNC's final tallied vote", something that makes no fucking sense but somehow they get away with it because people & politicians are afraid of disrupting the tiny bit of Democracy we have in this country. Not even Kyle laid a finger on the exit poll discrepancies aside from the very obvious debacle that happened in Iowa, because at least in Iowa the vote was somewhat public unlike Super Tuesday.
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zcbm88 There's been years of polling throughout the primary and even beforehand that show people, especially Democrats, are with Bernie on the issues. Have you literally never looked at an issues-driven poll in your life?
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@shlomokreuser726 Dude, yeah Republicans literally just passed a stomping puppies to death amendment & you're really gonna talk about a few dumb little cities
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@NotShowingOff Btw the way, we know FOR A FACT they cheated in Iowa so Bernie wouldn't officially be announced as the winner. It would be foolish to believe they didn't manipulate the vote in states where we couldn't see what they were doing unlike Iowa where the vote was essentially public AND THEY STILL CHEATED.
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@PerthTowne Not in the scenario we were given. At least that's my opinion anyways. If all the candidates had stayed in the race until after Super Tuesday, I'm fairly certain Bernie would've won & it would've been far too late for the media to push the "Joementum" bullshit, but what ended up happening was you had Bernie & his team trying to win over 33-40% of the Democratic Party for ~2 years during the race. A strategy that was correct considering nobody had any idea when or if these other candidates would drop out. Bernie secured his base & no one else could compete when we had 5-6 main candidates fighting in the field; it was a successful strategy by the time voting began. However, I always had a sickening feeling that the fact that we had so many candidates in the race would cause major issues in the long run. Remember when we had like 20 candidates on 2 debate stages & everyone was saying "Okay, they need to narrow down the field already!". I myself constantly said that because I was afraid Bernie would be winning the race but then certain candidates could just drop out, stay in to siphon votes, or manipulate the field somehow at the last second to make their preferred candidate win. I actually worried the most about the Left candidates because I felt like they were segmenting the Left (Warren, Yang, Tulsi) whereas in 2016, we had one Left candidate & one neoliberal candidate. I'm confident that if it had been a long drawn-out race between Bernie & Joe Biden, Bernie would've come out the victor, but we all spent 2 years defining a primary election dynamic & focusing on a 9 person race, building up candidates that never even stood a chance to begin with & then at the end the whole game board was flipped over anyways. Absolutely beyond frustrating. I'll say this one last time, Bernie would've won if we would've just had a simple, linear election that focused on the top 2-3 contenders. Oh, and fuck Warren I hope nobody ever supports her for president again. Though I don't think Yang or Tulsi can be trusted either anymore after endorsing the neoliberal candidate over the progressive.
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@senseiadam-brawlstars9465 That's not what the polling said whatsoever. You're bringing up anecdotal evidence from one person & you didn't even get an answer on whether that person would vote for Bernie if he was the nominee. Before the pandemic, Bernie polled nearly the same as Biden against Trump. Sometimes Biden polled better but sometimes Bernie polled better. Now throw in a Pandemic where half the country is struggling to the pay the bills & we have millions of people kicked off of their employer healthcare plans. You have no idea what you're talking about dude, you're just making random guesses based on feelings (& you're mom's vague political leanings). This chaotic moment in history is literally made for a populist politician to rise to power just as FDR did in the 1930s. It's a fucking shame we have a neoliberal corporatist who isn't gonna fix a damn thing & maybe give another $5 Trillion handout to big corporations as soon as he gets in.
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@senseiadam-brawlstars9465 Not to mention, your "feelings" of who is better to beat Trump & prioritizing playing political pundit over who would actually fix the fucking problems in this country is why we keep getting garbage presidents & for every neoliberal corporate sellout Biden & Obama, we get another neofascist Trump in return. And people wonder why the Empire is crumbling down around us.
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