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Comments by "" (@thehumanity0) on "Sam Harris On Progressivism, Torture, Religion u0026 Foreign Policy" video.
+Eric Massey - Kyle barely even got a word in for the first half of the conversation. Sam Harris was so triggered about Glenn Greenwald Kyle couldn't even get him to change the fucking subject. This was the first time I've listened to Sam Harris for a long period of time, and even if some of the things he says have value to them, he still holds himself on a ridiculously high pedestal and just comes off like an arrogant prick who can't stand any type of criticism and has to demean his critics to less than human. Apparently, according to Sam's standards, they aren't even allowed to be "indulged" by anyone or listened to just because they said something mean about Sam. He attacked Kyle just for interviewing them. Sam Harris can fuck himself in his pretentious ass as far as I'm concerned, maybe it will take him down a few pegs to where he actually is on the spectrum. He can't even see us humans from his pope-like pedestal of pretentious douchebaggery.
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Yeah I couldn't believe how calmly and condescending he was talking yet still came off like a whiny bitch for half of the conversation and was even insulting Kyle for.... Idk. Apparently Kyle was supposed to have slapped Glenn Greenwald and others and started throwing his feces at him because he was "indulging them" as if Sam Harris expects everyone to start acting like a condescending prick because they're mischaracterizing something Sam Harris said. I'll give Sam Harris that he has a large vocabulary and talks calmly and smoothly, but that doesn't mean at all anything he says then has logic instantly tacked onto it. I sided with Kyle on pretty much everything they talked about.
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+Eric Massey - Not for the first half of the conversation. Like I said, he was just freaking out about his critics for most of it and refused to change the subject. I wouldn't care if he was Stephen Hawking, anyone who is that whiny and contentious about his critics in a whole 2 hour interview is just being a condescending asswipe who won't instead refute the points his critics have made. Instead he simply just claims they shouldn't be interviewed ever by anyone and drones about how they're basically less than human and don't deserve to walk on the same ground as Harris. He just comes off like the world's biggest conceited douchebag. He makes good points on specific things later, but overall his ego is just far too big for the room and Kyle barely could get off a sentence for the first 45 minutes because of it. Also, Kyle was almost brown nosing him over his books and entirely trying to rationalize with Harris to try to level with him every single step of the way, while Sam was just being a dick right back at Kyle for his efforts. I usually care about the substance of a debate far more than anything else, but Sam spent half the interview actively avoiding substance while you could tell Kyle was eager to talk about something that actually mattered. Unfortunately this interviewed all boiled down to Sam's highly pretentious attitude, which was almost impossible to ignore especially when he was forcing the conversation to continuously revolve around his own ego and obsessing over his critics. I don't know if Sam acts like this often, but in this interview, he made himself look like a total jackass.
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+Eric Massey - Wtf are you even talking about. Where in my entire post did I say anything about "Islam". I wasn't even saying anything negative towards you, I was pointing out that Sam Harris was just triggered about Glenn Greenwald for half this interview. An hour of my life I'll never get back.
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He spent the better part of an hour bitching about Glenn Greenwald. I'll admit I haven't watched much Sam Harris, but he comes off like an arrogant self-congratulatory prick who think his critics aren't allowed to walk on the same ground as him and doesn't even give much substance to why they're wrong, but instead just attacks them in a childish way while totting a large vocabulary. Even with his ability to speak ultra fluently, he still comes off harboring little logic especially compared to Kyle who is even trying to level with him most of the time in the most rational way. I honestly thought Kyle was being too nice too him especially when Sam is insulting Kyle to his face just because he dared to "indulge" Sam's critics. Sam is pseudo-intellectual garbage just as Ben Shapiro is.
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+Jeff Hampton - So we should draw our conclusions about torture from a highly cherry picked example from Harris's "What if" thought experiment? You could do that with just about any issue out there. You can say "What if my grandmother was an evil villain and was about to blow up the world, would I kill her to save the lives of every person on Earth?" If the answer is "yes", does that mean that grandmother murder is now an acceptable thing because it was the only logical action in our What If game? Kyle has spent his whole career focusing on statistics and data to come to logical conclusions such as the fact that torture does NOT work, even the CIA has analyzed as much and that a torture victim would say just about anything to make the pain stop. It's just as likely that the guy in Sam's thought experiment gave the wrong information and it made investigators go in the exact opposite direction to where the kid was located and they would've found the toddler if they would've just kept searching the perimeter and gone by the book with it. The problem with this whole conversation is that Sam isn't going by data and logical analysis of our world but instead is using a flimsy example that would almost certainly not work again if the same scenario played out a second time. The ramifications of what would happen to our morally-driven world if suddenly every country all of sudden believed that torture was okay because Sam Harris convinced everyone it worked in one very specific instance (more than likely by chance than any actual effects of being efficient) would lead human society down a dark path that Kyle is completely correct is "a slipperly slope". The fact that you and "+DaleCooper"s instant reaction to this is "grow a pair" just shows how much you've really thought about this subject or you just blindly fall for Sam Harris's thought experiment as something latched to logic or reality even though statistical analysis of our world and torture in history have proven Harris wrong pretty much in every situation except for the one Harris gives that can't be entirely disproved but sure as shit cannot be backed up by statistical facts or anything outside the realm of a pseudo-intellectual hypothetical thought experiment.
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