Comments by "" (@thehumanity0) on "Fetterman Hospitalized For Depression | The Kyle Kulinski Show" video.

What's the treatment in that scenario? Prescriptions seem like a long shot for something that critical. I always analogized drug treatment for depression and anxiety to throwing darts at a dartboard with a blindfold on.
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@Dystopikachu Well I guess if anything electroconvulsive therapy will at least change things up for you and change your brain chemistry a bit. I'm sure any mindset is better than deep depression. Same things with psychedelics, if you already feel like you're at rock bottom a potential bad trip likely won't do much worse and you'll have nowhere to go but up so-to-speak. That is, unless you literally puddle yourself and turn your brain into mush - something I've actually seen people do purposefully and struggle to hold onto their sanity, at least temporarily.
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@Dystopikachu Yeah that's the analogy I make from my own personal experience. I tried out an anti-anxiety medication once for 3-4 weeks and it felt like exactly that. The unwanted symptoms were worse than any actual positive effects it had and I quit it pretty quickly. Here in Oregon, it was the first of the states to legalize Psilocybin in a therapeutic setting. If that leads to overwhelmingly positive outcomes like we all think it will (those of us that have actually been doing it recreationally for years & noticed the positive psychological effects), it will probably start to be recognized nation-wide and world-wide & lead to real breakthroughs in psychology.
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@wdyrm Honestly, if we actually wanted to help people with depression or mental issues, we wouldn't ambulance them to a hospital bed that smells like chemicals where they wait 3 hours to see a doctor. We'd airlift them to a secluded beach or send them to a tranquil facility that was built to actually remind people there is joy in life (kinda like those celebrity rehab facilities). We don't care THAT much about our sick though, so it will never happen
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@ImdaVP Yeah, but people suffering from depression will likely grasp for any break in their mental anguish, just like how they give you painkillers at the ER to temporarily stop the pain of say a broken femur. I would imagine mental anguish can be just as torturous as chronic pain if it's severe enough. The more people suffer from chronic pain or the mental equivalent to that, the more people lose their sanity and mental stability & the more their lives spiral out of control. It's the same thing with say alcohol withdraws, an instance where you'll have both chronic pain and chronic mental anguish. Any temporary relief to something like that is basically a lifeline for someone suffering from chronic symptoms like that, even if it is just temporary. A lot of the time feeling relief from severe illness is the first steps to recovery because you're body and mind can take a step back and feel normal/healthy for once during what I imagine would be a dark point in anyone's life. Besides, momentary joy and happiness when you first arrive at an ER is definitely better than the alternative & I'm not saying it would replace any actual therapeutic treatment they might administer for a week or 2. Basically my point is every little bit helps
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@yespls6260 That's great that it works for YOU. But I can tell you from my personal experience with it that it doesn't work for some people even when you try different scripts that are recommended to you. There's usually some kind of trade-off and a lot of the time that trade-off isn't worth it, such as not being able to think clearly for instance. The same thing goes for bipolar medication, which is an even more inaccurate scenario for treatment from what close friends have told me. I never said it didn't work for anyone, just that many people have serious issues finding one that actually works & doesn't have negative side-effects they'd much rather not live with.
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@blackoak4978 I don't really want to get more personal about this than I already have, but you probably shouldn't just assume people have never had depression or anxiety or don't understand it. It's a lot more common than you think, we all experience it in different ways and even if people don't suffer with it for decades, countless people still have had it at one point or another, a lot of the times both at once, which is likely why a lot of prescriptions doctors prescribe couple as anti-anxiety and anti-depression. Our system is basically built to ensure the majority of people experience it at least one point in their lives.
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