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Comments by "" (@thehumanity0) on "Kyle Discusses Tucker Carlson u0026 Politicon With TYT" video.
Her point is something most people on the left were thinking. You had countless right-wingers back out of their debates and refuse to debate this year due to the solid lineup of leftist debaters this year, and then the few people that did debate ended up conceding on points they're normally extremely vocal about such as cheerleading for Trump, something Tucker Carlson and especially Hughes are known for. There's an over-arching pattern here and claiming that "Ana is just being tribal" because she's pointing out a clear possibility for why these MAGA Trump supporters all of sudden agreed on 65% of the issues with their populist left opponents is the real indication of 'tribalism'.
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That's actually a good point. His younger fans might, but the majority of his viewers are 60+
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Yeah I agree. To be fair, I think Cenk and Kyle were just relieved to have a pleasant discussion instead of a low-brow battle of quips and zingers aka "the WWE of intellectual pursuits". Shapiro and a few other right-wing debaters have really turned modern-era debating into a ridiculous farce.
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Yeah nah, you guys basically lost this argument the moment you all started agreeing that "the Kavanaugh thing was terrible and should've been called out". Kavanaugh supports warrantless NSA spying (aka big government) and allowing a president to be above the law and pardon himself (aka a dictatorship). The fact that you think Kavanaugh should even be on the Supreme Court is the real joke, the guy perjured himself multiple times and you think that somehow equates to him being qualified to be one of the most important judges in America. I wonder what your opinions are about Bill Clinton perjuring himself. You're all fucking retarded to the max. Kyle didn't "call out the dems" for a reason, because they were right about this point except for sack of shit Joe Manchin, you guys can have that garbage clown, he fits right in with the MAGA crowd incidentally.
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I thought it was the same thing with Scottie Nell Hughes who most people don't know is actually a pretty big cheerleader for Trump, she's very out-of-place working on RT and most people didn't understand this if they had never seen her before. Her and Tucker conceded on the majority of the topics as acts of self-preservation in my opinion. Same reason why we saw so many conservatives back out and refuse debates. If you look at the over-arching pattern of Politicon this year, pretty much all conservatives were playing defense and intimidated by the real populism of the left this year from people like Kyle, Cenk, and others. This is the same reason why Bernie Sanders would crush Trump in a debate, I have a feeling Trump would just do the same thing Tucker did and concede on nearly all his arguments just saying "Oh yeah those are all good ideas." But do they really mean it is the better question?
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Same reason why no one wanted to debate Kyle, because they knew he would win and they would have to concede on the arguments, which is EXACTLY what happened with Scottie Nell Hughes and Charlie Kirk. Hughes went into the debate from start to finish holding up a white flag. Your right that if Tucker Carlson or Hughes were debating Hasan Piker or some other less skilled debater, they would've gone full MAGA on their opponent I have no doubt.
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Yeah I agree. I honestly think it's the same thing that happened with Scottie Nell Hughes. Most people who watched Kyle's debate never saw Hughes before, but she's a hardcore MAGA Trumper and just at Politicon last year, she was really cheerleading for Trump and the GOP.
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I mean, if you look at the entire context of Politicon this year, conservatives and right-wingers were on the run from the lineup of the left. This is why we saw several people back out including Steven Crowder, Candace Owens, and Ann Coulter, and even more people flat-out refused to debate Kyle and others like Seder. When I saw Tucker Carlson and Scottie Nell Hughes come out in about 60-70% agreement on the issues, it was pretty obvious they were doing so in acts of self-preservation. It's a lot less harmful to temporarily concede on the issues and compromise than it is to get completely mulled by the populist left, who like 75% of Americans agree with on the issues. I also saw it as a way to deflect from Trump as much as possible because he's getting harder and harder to defend as an actual "populist" of any kind and you can guarantee that Tucker and Hughes know this very well.
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Tucker. Hughes conceded on nearly all of her own views. If you've ever seen her on a panel before, you would know she basically went into the debate already knowing she lost.
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@emmawaters8380 Who hurls "accusations of racism, sexism, and white privilege" in debates? What left-wing debater incorporates that into their debate style? Please give me an example. Sounds like you're just trying to strawman off of a few neoliberals who yes do that to hide the fact that they're not really leftist so they over-exaggerate on the Socially liberal aspects of their positions to make it seem like they're super lefty all the while they're Republican-Lite on the issues of economics and policy substance. You're throwing Ana's name out there, I have never seen her do that in a debate, and her theory on why Tucker conceded on many of the points is not some "conspiracy" she came up with, it was what many people analyzed during the debates this weekend and noticed that many right-wing debaters were acting otherwise restrained. Both Tucker and Scottie Nell Hughes conceded on a ton of issues in their debates (both hardcore MAGA Trumpers) and deflected when it came to the topic of Trump so likely they would not have to defend Trump's phony populism and shilling for the establishment to 2 skilled debaters who were highly able to deconstruct Trump's fake populism he used to get into the White House and how he's just the bitch boy for the establishment now. Compared to their on-screen performances on Fox News and Hughes' political punditry, they were completely different people at Politicon. It does not take a genius to figure out that they conceded on many points as a way to avoid their reputations from being damaged especially Tucker who could not both defend Trump and pretend to be against big corporations like Amazon and Walmart all at the same time.
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