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Comments by "" (@thehumanity0) on "Bernie Swings u0026 Misses On Venezuela" video.
Except there was absolutely nothing wrong with Bernie's tweet, it's primary point is that he is FOR the people of Venezuela just as Bernie is always FOR the people of the US, in addition to preaching that violence should not be done against protesters. I fail to see how that can be conflated with pro-establishment and pro-regime change tweets where people like Nancy Pelosi, Trump, and CNN pundits are calling for Maduro to step down so a non-Democratically elected "president" can just take over without any elections. Bernie was literally just on MSNBC where Chris Hayes tried to smear him over Venezuela and Bernie said that the people of Venezuela need to elect their own president, not just let the US decide as they are with Juan Gaido. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFfZl6HKScs&t=815s His stance is literally: I'm against dictatorships that have phony elections, I'm for giving the people humanitarian aid, and I'm against regime change and letting the Trump administration pick the leader of these countries, they need to be decided by the people. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with that?
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@ericmoore6769 "Either he's too stupid to understand simple ideas, or he is actually Evil" And where is this 'common knowledge' coming from that the US is secretly sending weapons disguised as aid to Venezuela? Because from all the news I watch, I've only heard this theory from Kyle because he's inferring that Elliot Abrams has done it in the past, it's not even a fact that's it's happening now for sure, it's purely circumstantial, yet you're acting like it's somehow common sense. We wouldn't want to give Bernie the benefit of the doubt and actually assume he's talking about REAL humanitarian aid, would we? This is the same guy that has been working his ASS off to make sure aid gets to the people and children starving in Yemen. Seriously people?
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Tulsi has 0.5% popularity in the Democratic Party. Bernie is the front-runner by a mile and a half above anyone else. You're going to let foreign policy on one single country dictate your entire 2020 agenda? You guys are just fishing for a reason to yelp "Tulsi over Bernie!" And for the record, I think we all know that Bernie would immediately put a stop to the crap going on in Venezuela if/when he is president.
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Kyle has completely cherry picked his tweet, ignored his other tweets and then totally disregarded anything Bernie has been saying during media interviews. Saying bernie is "for regime change" is COMPLETELY False. Then he's somehow demonizing the statement that Bernie wants to provide aid to the people and conflating it with Kyle's own theory that weapons are being sent in by Elliot Abrams, which COULD be true, but it's entirely circumstantial and Kyle's presenting it as fact and claiming that "Bernie should know better than to talk about humanitarian aid". Seriously, what the fuck is going on?
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@amberlittlefinger9193 That's literally what Bernie is saying if you would actually look at all his tweets and all his comments. Kyle is cherry picking his tweets and not acknowledging his other comments. He's come out strongly against what the Trump administration is doing and the US's move for regime change. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFfZl6HKScs&t=860s
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Bernie was massively against the Iraq War, he has been massively against the war in Yemen and lead the charge to stop the arms sales to Saudis, he has said that we need to pull out of Syria and he has even said, in his most recent remarks on Israel, that we need to sanction Israel and what they're doing is monstrous. Pretty sure he's a fucking progressive dude. I don't remember Tulsi being the one to lead the Yemen vote in the House, it was Ro Khanna and Bernie in the Senate.
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with that tweet and all his other tweets are much better on the issue, yet you have no need to show any of them. Your segment is assuming that Bernie Sanders somehow knows perfectly well that Elliot Abrams sends weapons in the form of aid, when I have only really ever heard that from you Kyle. This segment is ridiculous and all your doing is giving the anti-Bernie people ammo to attack him with even though his tweets are fine. Your not the first person to blow his largely innocuous tweets on dictator-run countries way out of proportion.
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It's baffling to me that people can't grasp the concept that Bernie can simultaneously be against the regime change of the Trump administration while also being against Maduro's dictatorship. He's made tweets AGAINST the regime change going on and urged that the people of Venezuela need to be the ones to choose their leader, not the Trump administration, yet Kyle apparently ignores all that shit entirely. He literally just talked about it on MSNBC when Chris Hayes tried to smear him on the topic of Venezuela. There is literally nothing Wrong with Bernie's stance or rhetoric. Bernie is FOR the people of Venezuela just as he is FOR the people of America. This segment is absolutely ridiculous.
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@swagdawgswagson4727 "Yes, Maduro is a dictator. Not only has he stacked the entire judicial branch with loyalists, but he has managed to strong-arm nearly all of the 2,500 council seats. Maduro's government has banned the most popular opposition parties from elections, while leading opposition figures have been jailed or have fled the country fearing for their safety. So you cannot really call that a fair election. That would be like jailing members of the liberal or conservative party and then holding an election."
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Bernie's doing fine, there's nothing wrong with what he just said. Bernie is for the people as always, do you really doubt that? He's even fucking said in other tweets and on recent news interviews that he's entirely against the Trump administration and their actions for regime change on this. How is everyone just ignoring those comments yet blowing up something he said about humanitarian aid?
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@ThanatosSK It's hard to imagine that people are using a single CIA fuckhead's past and the theory that he must be doing it in Venezuela to twist themselves into being anti-humanitarian aid. If you seriously think Bernie is doing anything But just supporting feeding people starving and suffering in a country that is in hardship, then you're being intentionally dishonest with yourself. This is the same guy who worked his ass off to make sure aid would get through a Saudi embargo to the people and children suffering from a famine in Yemen. If there IS fuckery going on by the US with aid being sent into the country, I have no fucking doubt that Bernie would put a swift end to it if/when he becomes president. Bernie comes out strongly against Trump's actions in Venezuela and somehow he still gets blamed for what's going on, he really just is a punching bag to you guys (and the establishment).
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He is a dictator, they run phony elections a sure sign that your in a dictatorship. The important thing is though that Bernie is AGAINST the regime change going on by the Trump administration and purely has pushed for the people of Venezuela to decide their leader, not the US and Trump admin.
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Bernie's stance is literally just: I'm against dictatorships that have phony elections, I'm for giving the people humanitarian aid, and I'm against regime change and letting the Trump administration pick the leader of these countries, they need to be decided by the people. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with that? Kyle is being completely ridiculous here.
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For fucksake Kyle actually watch an interview from Bernie where he talks about this in full. He's been saying harsh shit about Trump's administration and regime change, I feel like you're just assuming he's NOT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFfZl6HKScs&t=860s
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According to current polls Tulsi has half a percentage point of popularity in the Democratic Party. Bernie is the front-runner by a mile and half above anyone else. Say what you want, but it's basically a reality at this point that Gabbard's delegates will go to Bernie.
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@Fixing_the_system Bernie is literally saying everything that implies he is entirely for the people in Venezuela. He is for real humanitarian aid given to starving people and children, he wants the violence to stop being done to protesters and he wants the US to not intervene or Trump to just self-proclaim the new leader of Venezuela (he's stated boldly that the people need to decide). It's baffling to see how people can twist the issue and make the argument that Bernie is somehow Not for the people of Venezuela, when his statement is only for their complete benefit whether they're on one side of the conflict or another. This issue is complicated, if they're trying to claim it's simple, they're lying. Bernie has been walking on eggshells this entire time, but he still manages to write and say the exact thing that benefits the masses in all countries.
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@MF_Zerg It's pretty sad isn't it. His show literally became known in the first place because he was the "Bernie or Bust guy", now he just does constant bashing on Bernie whether he has a legitimate reason or not.
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Why don't you actually listen to all his comments and not just the things Kyle is cherry picking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFfZl6HKScs&t=860s
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poofendorf That's a deflection from the main argument, in addition to Yugoslavia and Afghanistan being far more inline with international law. Go watch Kyle's video where he clarifies the exact military actions that are allowable from a Leftist stance and two of the things he brings up is military action in response to a country that attacked us, and military action through an international organization and surrogate like NATO that has made the agreement among several countries that action is needed to take a position against genocide, ethnic cleansing or mass murder, which is what NATO deduced when it got involved in Yugoslavia. Whether you agree with the actions from these time periods or not, and I'm sure you're getting ready to say a whole ton of crap about it, it still doesn't change the fact that both these conflicts were mostly in accordance with International Law when these votes took place during the reports of ethnic cleansing in Serbia and in the wake of 9/11. I'll remind you that since the initial vote on Afghanistan, Bernie has voted to bring the troops home ever single time, not to mention his perfect record on the Iraq War from an anti-interventionist stance.
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poofendorf The decision to get involved in Yugoslavia (by multiple countries in NATO) was in response to an ethnic cleansing, mass rape and mass murder that escalated into full-on genocide. Ignoring this fact only undermines your point. And to your statement on Afghanistan, that is exactly why Bernie voted to pull troops out every single time. The initial vote was in response to an attack on the US, something that every single person in the Senate and Congress voted for except one single person, Barbara Lee. To hoist the entire blame for this on Bernie's shoulders when he took action to pull troops out every single time is completely disingenuous to say the least. This whole argument your making is to only to deflect to something you can possibly attack Bernie on, which must be hard to do considering he's the best Senator in the country and is painfully honest with all his positions. This is not the first time I've had this conversation with people harping away on Afghanistan and Yugoslavia to undermine Bernie's progressive credibility, this is only to satisfy your own skewed biases on the subject of Bernie Sanders.
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poofendorf So there wasn't mass rape and a genocide going on? This is pathetic man. Stop deflecting to shit that happened 20 years ago so you can just use it to attack Bernie now. I've had this conversation about "Yugoslavia and Afghanistan" wayyyy too much with people on Jimmy Dore's channel who just bash Bernie for any possible reason imaginable.
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@Zack Wright Agreed, Bernie takes a simultaneous principled stance against both regime change in countries that didn't attack us AND a dictatorship that runs phony elections when it imprisons its opposition parties and somehow he's the bad guy. The media is currently smearing him with headlines like "Bernie stops short of calling Maduro a dictator" and these guys are simultaneously trying to bash him for being too hard on the regime at the same time. The whole thing is absolutely insufferable and I imagine it's exactly why Bernie tries to avoid the topic.
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@cpwm17 Except that Maduro has literally run out or imprisoned the opposition parties, what do you call an election where your biggest opposition is jailed? Also, stop conflating what Bernie is saying with what the Trump administration is possibly doing with aid. It's clear that Bernie is talking about giving ACTUAL aid to the people not letting them do CIA stunts, which you're also just guessing about anyways because of Elliot Abrams, it's circumstantial not factual. Do not let this issue make you become "anti-humanitarian aid" that's just ridiculous. Bernie has worked his ass off to get real humanitarian aid to the people of Yemen when it was being blocked and causing a famine, so I don't understand how you can just blame him for talking about humanitarian aid in this situation when he very obviously means what he says.
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It's funny, I now see countless articles smearing Bernie over "Bernie stops short from calling Maduro a dictator". Somehow he gets attacked by the media over this and meanwhile gets attacked by Kyle for a tweet on Venezuela. Bernie just can't catch a break, apparently he must be Godly at all times. Perhaps this is why he tries to avoid the topic of Venezuela, something Kyle calls a "bad strategy" ha.
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@j.a.cluland5852 John Bolton admitted that he has a hardon to make Juan Gaido president because of Venezuela's oil reserves, nobody ever admitted that the US's humanitarian aid is secretly weapons, we just know that Maduro is not taking it for paranoia reasons, which COULD be well-founded, but there is no proof to say this is anything but circumstantial, Kyle should know better than to throw this circumstantial evidence on Bernie's shoulder's as if "Bernie should know this" as if it's fucking common sense or something.
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@j.a.cluland5852 Seems rational and anti-interventionist to me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFfZl6HKScs&t=860s Why don't you actually listen to everything he has to say.
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Because of one single issue and foreign policy on one single country? You really must not give a shit about policy in general. I think we all know that Bernie would end what is going on in Venezuela when he becomes president, he's strongly against regime change and has been his entire political career.
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@reggiefreeborn2143 Wait she pushed birtherism? That can't be right..
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@Fact Checker He "legitimized regime change". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFfZl6HKScs&t=860s Yeah okay.
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To anyone who actually wants to hear everything Bernie has to say instead of cherry picking tweets and acting like he's not strongly against Trump's moves for regime change, watch his comments on MSNBC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFfZl6HKScs&t=860s
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@swagdawgswagson4727 No, I'm pretty sure they disagree on a lot, considering Jimmy spends most of his time pushing an agenda that involves a "new party" and what seems like nonstop Bernie bashing just because he won't come on his show and run in his imaginary party. There have been a few times when he gives praise to Bernie or AOC, but most of the time it is just contemptuous unhelpful drivel. An example of their differences in reporting can be seen in the fact that Kyle has actually analyzed each 2020 candidate on their positives and negatives, while Jimmy had done a video on Tulsi that was 100% defense and praise and absolutely no acknowledgment of criticism.
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@swagdawgswagson4727 "CIA Talking point". He's literally just saying aid should be provided to people in a country where people are suffering and starving and violence should stop being done to protesters. How the fuck does that translate to "CIA Talking point". We don't even know for sure whether they're sending weapons as humanitarian aid, that's entirely circumstantial, and you seriously think Bernie is for that? Are you insane? Also listen to the rest of the what he's been saying, Kyle has been misrepresenting his stance by cherry picking one tweet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFfZl6HKScs&t=860s
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