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Comments by "" (@thehumanity0) on "What Jimmy Dore u0026 Aaron Mate Got Right u0026 Wrong In Criticizing Me" video.
I agree, Jimmy should stop acting like petulant child who does petty hypocrisy burns when things don't go his way. At least Kyle is explaining rights and wrongs from his past criticisms, Jimmy is acting like anything that's not 100% in his favor is disgusting and borderline malintent after initially admitting Kyle is an honest actor. It's baffling to me how anyone could view Dore as the adult in the room.
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Kyle rarely EVER does this. Jimmy on the other hand, has Twitter drama like this three times a week Saturday through Sunday.
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Sugar Shane They canceled on Cenk and Jimmy together, though I doubt you're going to argue about how he ghosted Cenk.
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@jamviator I've been watching Secular Talk for 6 years. I don't know if I've literally ever seen him deal with this much bullshit and personal drama. It's baffling to me how people don't see how toxic Jimmy Dore is. (then again, maybe those people thrive on Jimmy's bullshit drama and petty rants).
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Jesus, it's so cringy looking at all these Dore fanatics in the comments acting like Kyle personally killed their cat because he dared to slightly deviate from God Jimmy's opinions and own petty views. He literally doesn't even have anything to do with Jimmy's Twitter war and drama. It's all beyond absurd at this point.
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Kyle was pretty clear that he doesn't care about old jokes or old tweets, the thing he was saying was fucked up was Jimmy's "defense" where he freely admits to sexual harassment and then continues to try to validate it by saying even worse shit. It was like watching a Logan Paul apology video where the "apology" is worse than the thing he's apologizing for.
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You guys need to come up with some better attack material. Kyle canceled on both Cenk and Jimmy cause their drama had devolved into discussions about asses and thongs. Sounds pretty reasonable to me, but then again, I'm not a Jimmy Dore chud.
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@JabVRni Tons of these people don't watch Kyle, that's the point. People coming here just for the Twitter drama that Kyle's not even remotely involved in & bombing the Secular Talk channel just cause he even slightly deviates from Jimmy Dore's opinion & worship squad. I'm sure Kyle feels like he's on crazy pills at this point.
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I mean, he is one of the biggest streamers on Twitch. His Youtube channel is bigger than even Kyle and Jimmy's from his daily numbers alone. How does pointing out the obvious make him a "full-blown grifter"?
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I really hope Kyle just ignores the Jimmy Dore defense squad attacking him for even slightly deviating from Dore's own opinions. I honestly just want him to drop it and stop fueling their Twitter drama even further. None of this required more than a 2 minute summary about how TYT was out of line when they said Mate might be paid by Assad. It's over, everyone ffs let it go.
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Lol jesus you people are trying so hard to cancel Kyle just because he didn't do something he was never obligated to do in the first place. Jimmy's revealing private conversations, acting like he was viciously slighted over innocuous shit, & burning bridges with someone who has policy views that Jimmy agrees with almost completely & even though he has absolutely nothing to do with the Jimmy's Twitter war and drama. If Kyle is the 'unprofessional' one, I hate to see what an unbiased person would say about Jimmy.
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He canceled on Cenk and Jimmy together. Stop omitting the former. I doubt your going to argue how he ghosted Cenk.
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Jesus, I can't even watch these clips of Jimmy. He's so f*cking self-absorbed & believes the world entirely revolves around him. He literally gets mad that anyone would take a critical view of the "news skirt" thing when Jimmy himself freely admits in his past video it was sexual harassment.
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I agree with Kyle 100%. It's hard to find the Secular Talk listeners when the Jimmy Dore defense squad basement dwellers can't help but bomb his channel anytime he says something even faintly critical.
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@billbradley4878 Ironic since the comment your posting on is doing the exact thing you accuse @Kuroshiro of saying. That's a big self own ("intellectual dishonesty" I think you called it).
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@pangea9654 "Kyle will turtle up and run away when actual policy issues get fuddled with" You mean like how he literally covered the Syria bombing on Day 1 as his first story of the day or openly talked about the recent report in a livestream? Jfc it's like you people are just trying to make shit up you know is total bullshit.
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Do you even watch this show? He has far less to do with TYT than even Jimmy Dore himself. Kyle was debating Cenk over Russiagate while Jimmy was still on Aggressive Progressives. You people are utterly ignorant to the basic facts.
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He was never angry over it? He only mentioned it to discuss how the drama had devolved into MeToo stuff and explain why he canceled both Cenk and Jimmy on his show. Jimmy freely admitted it was sexual harassment, and whether it was discussed because of blackmail or not, nobody wants to get involved in something extremely uncomfortable like that.
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Hasan was scheduled to go on and literally has nothing to do with this drama (he literally says that during the interview and doesn't even want to talk about it). Also he canceled on Cenk and Jimmy together. Stop misconstruing the truth to fit your own narrative.
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@DS94everXev He canceled on Cenk and Jimmy together. Omitting the former is just dishonest. He clearly wanted to simply avoid the issue once it devolved into talking about asses and thongs.
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The framing about how he was staying out of the whole thing and would much rather talk about pocket pussy's than some Twitter drama between Cenk and Jimmy Dore? Yeah, how dare Kyle
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@chaztiz8839 You literally sound like you haven't listened to a word he's said, considering he's stated NUMEROUS times now where he stands. Also, I think it's a reach to call this a "campaign" when Jimmy is the one nonstop talking about this, while alternatively TYT wants to drop it so bad that Ana nearly blackmailed Jimmy just so he would stop. The Jimmy train just sounds incredibly delusional, & I can tell I'm not the only one. What TYT was wrong, but you guys are losing your fucking minds over this shit & turning the Left into some Twilight Zone circus.
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Hasan has as much to do with TYT as Jimmy Dore does (who also started his career at TYT). This is such a dumb line of attack, especially when Hasan clearly said he was staying out of the whole drama.
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@oj5218 Lol at what point did Kyle blackmail & smear Jimmy Dore?
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@oj5218 Kyle Kulinski ≠ Anna Kasparian. Though I thought that would be painfully obvious to anyone actually using their brain.
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@rickduval2025 Yeah, to be more specific, the commentary on his original video was fine & reasonable. It initially had ~80% Like ratio & if anything a few of Kyle's regular viewers were just telling Kyle he should've mentioned the potential blackmail attempt. A few days later, you could literally tell Jimmy's followers bombed Secular Talk (suddenly it dropped to a 50% ratio), just saying Kyle is 100% wrong about everything and pretending like he's 100% siding with TYT. I don't even think most of them watched his video from the type of shit they were saying. People saying he's obligated to talk about it & staying silent = encouraging smears. You can tell Jimmy's crowd is immediately bombing this video now, saying ridiculous shit & attacking Kyle on things that he literally cleared up in this video. "You canceled on Jimmy & had Cenk's nephew on instead" - Kyle already said it that Hasan Piker is his own man. He started on TYT just like how Jimmy Dore started on TYT. It's an absurd reach to act like having "Cenk's nephew" on is a huge slight towards Jimmy - these people don't even know anything about Hasan and how he's a giant Twitch streamer now whose about 1000x more edgy than TYT or even Jimmy Dore for that matter if they were to actually watch Piker. Anyways, it's not even like ratios or whatever matter, it's just a way to explain how Jimmy's cult of personality has turned into a MAGA-like response where any tiny criticism gets swarmed by an army of basement dwellers. There's no way this ongoing dynamic is healthy for the Left or leftist politics - I've been saying this for a long time now.
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@rickduval2025 And yeah you're right about the critical thinking part. So many comments are word-for-word parroting Jimmy's own responses in his video & then just completely ignoring anything Kyle said in this segment. OR saying far more ridiculous shit like Kyle being a sellout cause he slightly criticized God Jimmy. Here's something someone said to me just today: "this channel has turned to liberal milquetoast months ago. this was just the final push many of us needed. i guess only CHILDREN care about the truth and justice."
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People have lost their fucking minds over this. I can't believe Kyle got dragged into this crap and is now in a never-ending response war on an issue that has literally nothing to do with him in the first place. Jimmy has become the ultimate cult of personality, it's absurd.
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@Steelersince89 Gonna be weird going forward after this mess. Most Secular Talk regulars I've seen (even the ones who initially disagreed with Kyle on one or two points like omitting the blackmail attempt) have come to realize Jimmy's fanatical worshipers have 0 critical thinking skills and in many cases are not being intellectually honest with their attacks/purposefully misconstruing shit to win the useless and unimportant Twitter drama Kyle never wanted to even touch with a 10 foot poll in the first place. Jimmy himself has shown to be petty over any little perceived slight & is ready to try to burn bridges with even someone like Kyle over essentially NOTHING. Jimmy is an incredibly obnoxious and toxic cult of personality and this reality only gets worse by the day. TYT has a multitude of absurd problems, but apparently so does Jimmy. Kinda fucked up how Kyle was pulled in the middle of this and I honestly feel bad for any alternative media host who got swept up in this garbage drama.
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Lol Twitter drama is somehow the same as watching someone getting "beaten to death". I guess this is the logic we can expect from the trolls hate-bombing this channel apparently.
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@jayp4772 I mean, it's like they're desperately trying to burn bridges with Kyle because he won't get on his knees and bow down to Jimmy. This whole thing is so pathetic. This is called Wednesday afternoon for Jimmy - not sure if I've ever seen Kyle have to deal with this much drama bullshit EVER.
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@waqasusmans Kyle had Hasan scheduled for awhile. Hasan has his own career on Twitch, his own opinions and started on TYT the same way Jimmy Dore started on TYT. When it comes to this Twitter feud, Kyle equally canceled on Cenk and Jimmy, so you attacking Kyle over this just comes off as petty and incredibly biased.
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@NyarlathotepAD We are on the Secular Talk channel, or did you forget you weren't in Jimmy Dore's safe space?
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@scottkeller8890 Firstly, I don't know where you got this info, but the explanations I've heard are very differently, secondly, you're missing the point completely about how Hasan has his own show on Twitch, his own opinions, and has about as much to do with TYT as Jimmy Dore does himself (they both started on TYT and now have their own shows that vary greatly with TYT's opinions). Using Hasan's existence as a line of attack is a huge reach especially when he's clearly said he's staying out of the drama between Cenk and Jimmy. Using these paper-thin valid arguments as a means to attack Kyle is just absurd and beyond silly when Kyle has even less to do with Jimmy and Cenk's Twitter/Youtuber drama.
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@clayton4336 Pretty sure you're the one who didn't watch the video, because Kyle's said some of the exact same things that I just explained about Hasan. Want me to timestamp it for you? The only thing he admits that he did wrong was that he didn't contact Jimmy Dore earlier, that's it. When it comes to perceived slights from Jimmy Petty Dore about having "Cenk's nephew" on, Kyle explains why this a giant reach and Jimmy and his audience clearly have no idea who Hasan is or what his beliefs are to use his existence as a weapon to attack Kyle with. It's incredibly petty shit & you would know this if you watched even a little of Hasan's Twitch channel. Not to mention, they all THREE explain how they want to stay out of the Twitter drama and want nothing to do with it. Incredible how anyone can see this and say "OH MY GOD They're taking TYT's side!!"
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@scottkeller8890 Whether it's one idiot or a bunch of idiots, it doesn't really matter. The people who actually watch Secular Talk know and understand where Kyle is coming from, whereas the Jimmy Dore worshipers are just automatically here to jump on him and parrot Jimmy's own words without using any type of critical analysis of their own. The fact that you're trying to back up your arguments by pointing out how there are a lot of Dore fanatics here just exposes your own level of critical thinking on this matter.
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@mattpurvis927 Yes, he was absolutely going to have both on. That's the fucking point & the point people are just purposefully or ignorantly leaving out to fit their own narrative. Kyle explained this multiple times how he canceled on Cenk and Jimmy when things devolved into discussions over asses and thongs. It's like you didn't even watch any of his videos.
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@mattpurvis927 It's Kyle's fucking show dude, I'm pretty sure he knows who he's planning to have on. Just stop already, you people are becoming psychotic with obsessing over this.
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