Comments by "" (@thehumanity0) on "TRIBALISM: Memberships Canceled Over David's Jimmy Dore Criticism" video.

  1. His membership has actually spiked after this, so seems like the non-Dore fans seem to agree.
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  2. +Olivier Lucuyer - This is what the Dore fanbase does. They flood the comment sections of videos on any hint of disrespect for their daddy. Doubtful any of these people were even subscribed to David in the first place. I'm not even a Pakman or Seder viewer, but I see this shit all the time by the Jimmy Dore fan club. This is why people equate you guys to right-wingers so much, because it's the same type of cult-like group-think bullshit you see from Trump supporters or Shapiro or Dave Rubin snowflakes.
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  3. When Tulsi Gabbard was on his show, he literally just yelled at her and belittled her political role to her face to try to shame her out of leaving the Democratic Party. Pretty sure that's the definition of being "toxic" as the host of a show. He just kept on asking the same questions and then afterwards his fans were just calling her a 'sellout'. The whole environment surrounding Jimmy is that of a cult and group-think, that's why he gets compared to right-wingers so much especially when the guy wants to reach out and work with pieces of shit like Mike Cernovich.
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  4. It's totally fine to agree on a progressive purity test, but it's only rational to make that test something like "do you support Medicare-for-All" or "did you oppose the Iraq War". The purity tests Jimmy Dore pulls out of his ass are entirely impossible to pass for any politician. Ocasio-Cortez said one small thing on CNN (a 9 second clip that Dore cherry-picked) over how she supports all Democratic nominees "even the governor". That's not an "endorsement" and her campaign has rejected that notion that (only) Jimmy was pushing and making his headlines. The idea of claiming she's a "co-opted sellout" because she said something about a fellow Democrat that she campaigned AGAINST for Nixon for months with her own volunteers is just absurd, and the fact that Jimmy didn't give the entire context of that interview and the reality of how she tried to beat Cuomo for Nixon is just straight lying by omission and makes his attacks on her nothing but a smear.
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  5. Dude what? I'm not a Sam Seder fan, but it's ridiculous and idiotic to call him a 'neoliberal in the making' considering his co-hosts constantly advocate for purebred Socialism. Also, he's been like that for years (far longer than Jimmy) so it's weird he's not a neoliberal yet by that logic.
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  6. They weren't "his attacks", those were the words of Sam Seder and he was asked if he agreed. People are being overly sensitive about this and just deflecting from the real issue here, which is Jimmy's clear bias against progressives trying to run within the Democratic Party and basically anyone who disagrees with Jimmy.
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  7. Jimmy Dore is a closet right-winger and the new Dave Rubin. He'll likely be calling himself a "classical progressive" in another few months. Guy is just an obstacle for progressives more than anything.
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  8. Yes "real leftists" only ever criticize and attack other leftists and spend close to 0 amount of time doing coverage on the right-wing establishment and GOP that own every single branch of government and run the current establishment.
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  9. +Xenophrenia - It's so funny that I see Dave Rubin's fanbase making the same exact arguments that Jimmy Dore fans make. "they're just jealous of his cred and show's success". Same thing Rubin says in response to Kasparian's jabs at him for being lazy because he wanted to take Koch Brothers money. "They're just jealous honestly, that's why they dislike me" - Dave Rubin.. Also I constantly see Dore fans make the excuse "Jimmy doesn't cover Trump and the GOP because they're already covered by everybody else." Same thing Dave Rubin recently said in a Q&A when someone asked why he doesn't criticize Trump when he literally said "I'll be the first to hold his feet to the fire." He said "He's already extensively covered by so many other outlets." Yeah, when you guys give the exact same arguments as a total hack like Dave Rubin, I definitely have my doubts about Jimmy Dore.
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  10. Yes Jimmy Dore is truly a 'man of the people and little guy', that's why he constantly smears and belittles Bernie Sanders who just succeeded in raising Amazon's minimum wage. His comedy club gigs are real charity to see what the 'people are desperate for and need'.
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  11. When did David become a "corporate Democrat". Because he's defending Ocasio-Cortez from Jimmy the closet right-winger? Can you make the argument that Ocasio-Cortez is somehow a corporate Democrat now, because that would be really amazing mental gymnastics.
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  12. Way to completely mischaracterize your opponent's argument and positions. This is a defining feature of the Jimmy Dore crowd. Just strawman and give false equivalencies.
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  13. It is when you write an angry letter telling them you wish you could get your past donations back. All because he gave his opinion when asked about it. The whole exchange just proves his point.
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  14. +Matthew Dominguez - Yeah it's the first one
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  15. The only one that makes sense is the criticism of Gillum, but Jimmy still takes it too far. His bullshit against Bernie Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez are 100% wrong though. Criticism of Ocasio-Cortez could've been given for her statement on CNN, but to go out of your way to claim it's a full throat "endorsement" when she campaigned for Cynthia Nixon for months to beat Cuomo is just pure insanity and a straight up smear.
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  16. +Olivier Lucuyer - I at least watch Pakman videos every once in a blue moon, but it seems like you're just here to bitch about how someone called your daddy a "useful idiot". You know, the guy who constantly belittles and bashes on Bernie Sanders on a daily basis, the politician who just raised the minimum wage for Amazon workers. You're sort of proving my point about the "flooding the comment sections" when you clearly don't like Pakman to begin with. Btw, Pakman and Seder are not the only ones to call out Jimmy Dore. Kyle Kulinski, Progressive Voice, and LTMB, who are Green Party loyalists, all called out Dore for his disingenuous coverage of Cortez or gave criticism for their massive disagreements. They just didn't call him a name, so none of you emotional snowflakes will even comment on what they said or even address the heart of the issue surronding how his coverage of Cortez was completely out-of-context and a targeted attack on a true progressive. Nearly 99% of the negative comments you're referring to here don't even want to talk about this, they just want to bitch and moan about name-calling, you especially, who thinks it's clever to call anyone on the other side of the issue a Hillbot "troll".
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  17. +Omar Brathwite - Problem is, that's the exact same excuse that Dave Rubin makes when people ask him "Why do you never cover Trump and criticize the right? Seems like your criticism is only ever focused on the left." Rubin gives that exact same excuses Jimmy does, which is especially ridiculous since he claimed "I'll be the first to hold Trump's feet to the fire." Pretty sure Jimmy also made similar claims since he was one of the only people on the left saying it would be better if Trump won over Hillary. Unfortunately, we never see either of them give any criticism of Trump or the GOP and Jimmy only ever mentions the right-wing in passing. These similarities are hard to ignore even if Jimmy's favored policies are much more to the left than what Rubin's are now.
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  18. In defense of a guy who constantly bashes on Bernie and smears him on a daily basis, while a large portion his fans are Trump Supporters. It must be opposite day.
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  19. +Matthew Dominguez - I have gigantic disagreements with Jimmy Dore, but spitting in Alex Jones' face was probably the best thing he ever did. Granted I liked him a lot more back then in 2016, he's become an obstacle and annoyance for progressives since then and done far more to harm the movement than help it.
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  20. Except Ocasio-Cortez never gave a full throat "endorsement" of Cuomo, you AND Jimmy are just wrong there and he made it his headlines as a smear more than anything. Her campaign formally rejected the idea that she "endorsed" Cuomo and from the way Jimmy talks about it, you'd think she was campaigning for Cuomo or some bullshit. The reality is that Cortez campaigned and worked her ass off for Cynthia Nixon's campaign to BEAT Cuomo and did so for MONTHS with her own volunteers to help Nixon. Jimmy just ignores the full context and shows a cherry-picked 9 second clip from CNN as 'proof of her being a sellout'. When you actually stop and THINK about it, it's fucking absurd and only detrimental to the progressive movement.
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  21. Using Jimmy and 'rational' in the same sentence is hilarious. The guy literally said Hillary had a fatal illness and that the Democrats would filibuster Neil Gorsuch for 2 years. The stuff he's done more recently is even more ridiculous with constant bashing on Bernie and Ocasio-Cortez when they're out making huge differences in politics.
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  22. Doubtful any of these people were even subscribed. They only take Jimmy's word as gospel since he's the only one who cherry picks clips and gives partial-coverage of topics to support his own dumbass theories and ideas.
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  23. Look at all the people proving your point David. This type of behavior is definitely tribal and something that is familiar to how the right-wing operates, you might as well call these people "JimmyBros" instead of BernieBros considering Jimmy just trashes Bernie nearly every single day and has started to make headlines over Ocasio-Cortez being a 'sellout' based on a 9 second clip on CNN.
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  24. When you attach a letter saying "I wish I could take all my donations back", yeah it kinda is.
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  25. It's one thing to cancel a membership (and write an angry letter) because you continually disagree with someone on a growing number of issues, but it's another thing to lash out in a derisive way because they said one thing you don't like especially since David didn't make it a personal attack on Jimmy Dore, but it was on the topic of the way he's been covering progressive politicians. Also, David only answered this because he was asked about it by a caller, so the idea of attacking him over his opinion is extreme and kind of just proving his point.
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  26. +MrShanester117 - He hates Hillary so much that he hates the Democratic party and he hates the Democrats so much that he hates on basically every person who tries to reform the Democratic Party, and basically all you need to know is that he's driven by hatred and taps into the anger on the left in addition to attracting a lot of right-wingers and Trump supporters because he constantly shits on Democrats and progressives and barely ever criticizes the GOP or Trump.
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  27. +Erick CK - "He has interesting guests like Tulsi Gabbard and Ro Khanna" Really? You wanna bring those 2 up? Jimmy's entire audience thinks Ro Khanna is a 'sellout for life' now after he endorsed both Joe Crowley and Ocasio-Cortez (someone who Jimmy also calls a sellout ironically), and then with Tulsi Gabbard, Jimmy was just berating her constantly on his show trying to embarrass and shame her to leave the Democratic Party asking her question after question like "Why would you want to be a part of this embarrassment?". He's talking to one of the best Congresswomen we have in the government, and he just belittles her to her face for 2 hours.
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  28. Those were Sam Seder's words and David was only commenting on it. You wanna talk about "vicious attacks", how about we talk about how Jimmy started all this by attacking Ocasio-Cortez over a cherry-picked 9 second clip on CNN he took completely out of context?
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  29. That's ironic considering Jimmy is the one constantly bashing progressives and never criticizing the right-wing establishment, GOP or Trump.
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  30. I agree. These people are really hard to reason with, they're completely motivated by irrational anger and a lack of logical analysis. His fans that are self-proclaimed progressives have a blinding hatred for Hillary and Democrats that it causes them to be entirely incapable of seeing the bigger picture, while the other half of his viewers are basic right-wingers and Trump supporters. I've been in conversations with people in his comment threads who have literally made the point that Obama is in favor of 'open borders' and they get massive up-votes by other Dore fans. I mean I hate the shit out of Hillary and the DNC too, but I don't let it cloud my judgement to the reality of the political climate that I think the spineless McResistance Democrats are somehow worse than the Republicans who own every branch of government, have record amount of corruption, and perpetuating a genocide in Yemen and getting ready for one in Iran, especially to the point where I'm criticizing progressives MORE than any type of criticism towards the right-wing establishment or GOP in the slightest. It's just nonsense, and there's absolutely no reason to give that type of unbalanced news coverage unless your a conservative who hates the Democrats and on Team Trump. Jimmy claims to "hate both parties", but I literally never see him act on his hatred of the other party, which is doing FAR more damage today to the American working class with their tax cuts, disastrous healthcare, and gutting Net Neutrality. You're not the only one on this side of the issue Ben, Kyle Kulinski and Progressive Voice have vocalized their disagreements with Jimmy and his irrational fans as well just without using harsh rhetoric. It just hasn't gotten as much coverage because people only care about the harsh rhetoric. For future purposes, I think it would be advisable to just criticize the substance of what he does and try not to add the rhetoric, because it seems like it's the only thing his fans and certain progressives are focused on now, and not what you and the others were actually saying. Jimmy being a "useful idiot" is exactly the right phrase for it, but it's not going to win you any popularity contests even though Jimmy seems to constantly get away with calling Bernie a "sheepdog" and Cortez a "co-opted" sellout.
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  31. His fans are super emotional and irrational compared to every other circle of progressives. I dislike him primarily because his followers are ridiculous and devoid of logic.
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  32. Great job, maybe he'll put it towards that new party he's always talking about.
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  33. "If you criticize Jimmy, it means you're just jealous of him", Yeah... That's a solid argument.
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  34. There's a difference, however, when a person attaches a hate letter to it saying they wish they could have all their past donations back it's definitely an attack of some kind. If they had just pulled the membership, I'm sure he wouldn't have said anything about it. It's the angry letters which make it an 'attack'.
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  35. This is only IN REACTION to Jimmy Dore attacking Ocasio-Cortez and he consistently has been attacking Bernie to the point where his fans do not even support Bernie anymore. What do you call that? Cortez's campaign refused the idea that she "endorsed" Cuomo btw. Jimmy made that his headlines based on a cherry-picked 9 second clip on CNN.
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  36. David actually criticizes both Republicans and Democrats, whereas Dore just bashes ONLY the Democrats constantly and now has begun to add progressives onto that list. Pretty sure (some) right-wingers love him because they know he's an effective tool at tearing down the left.
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  37. This is a really important point to make in general David. I too have been guilty of doing this at times and I think you're right that it's just not the correct way of behavior for progressives if we want to continue to strengthen the ideas within the movement and continue to gain more support from non-progressives.
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  38. Jimmy has always "gotten a little out of hand", but recently he's just been straight destructive to what progressives are trying to accomplish. He's been bitching and moaning about Bernie for months now and criticizes him near every day, primarily for "not coming on my show". But his latest coverage of Ocasio-Cortez was beyond ridiculous by taking a 9 second clip on CNN completely out of context to claim it as a full throat "endorsement". Something Ocasio-Cortez's campaign has formally rejected as a fact, but from the sound of Jimmy, you'd think Cortez was fucking campaigning for Cuomo when the truth is that she campaigned for Cynthia Nixon for MONTHS to BEAT Cuomo and eject him from the governor seat. Ignoring those facts and full context of the situation is lying by omission and giving only partial-context.
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  39. I wish David would not have reiterated the rhetoric that Seder used when the caller asked him about his opinion on it, but that's besides the point and the real issue is that what Jimmy Dore does is harmful to the progressive movement. He constantly attacks Bernie and just recently dishonestly smeared Ocasio-Cortez for an "endorsement" she never actually made and her campaign has rejected the idea.
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  40. +rumbleToungman rumble - I'm a Russian bot who genuinely thinks Jimmy Dore is not much better than Dave Rubin. Something wrong?
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  41. +JonnyNice - Yes Seth Rich and Hillary's deadly illness were super honest stories. His latest coverage of Tucker Carlson in particular was particularly insightful on how Jimmy gives only partial context, cherry-picked content, and false equivalencies.
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  42. +JonnyNice - The problem is he says them as fact (just as he does with most things) and they were clearly not true especially the one about Hillary's health. And no, Tucker Carlson did ONE right thing EVER, but his latest story on corporate welfare was a slippery piece of propaganda that ended with Tucker flipping the problem of corporate welfare on its head to push deregulation and less government. Those are the REASONS for corporate welfare even existing, not the solutions and Jimmy cut his story and cherry-picked the video footage to make it seem like 'Tucker got it right for once' when it was clearly a bait-and-switch work of propaganda. The only reason Tucker was even talking about it in the first place was because Bernie Sanders framed his bill in a genius way to ensure support among the right-wing, because his past attempts at raising the minimum wage haven't worked on the right-wing and gained enough support so he did it to go after corporate welfare and Jeff Bezos. Instead of giving Bernie Sanders the most credit, Jimmy gave the most praise to fucking Tucker Carlson who literally said the exact opposite of what Bernie Sanders was trying to accomplish with his bill to keep corporate powers in check and stop ripping off the consumer. Tucker's "solution" basically lined up with exactly what Amazon and Walmart want and lobby for in Washington constantly: less deregulation, more tax cuts, and less government. Funny how his "solution" also lined up with what Tucker's donors want over at Fox News as well, what a coincidence and funny way of flipping a populist policy on its head to benefit corporations. You're a fool if you can't see the problem with that framing.
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  43. +Anomie Toponymie - "If I were Jimmy I wouldn't talk to someone who smears me". Exactly right, which is likely why Bernie won't go on Jimmy's show ("BERNIE WON'T EVEN COME ON HERE TO TALK TO ME! He's Sheepdogging for the Democrats!"), and probably why Cortez will never go on his show again either. He's going full Dave Rubin and his fans are too latched onto the guy to see it.
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  44. Yes that's what Jimmy has done in the past "call out Corp Dems", but all the pressure on him lately (from many people, not just David) is because he's attacking and smearing real progressives like Bernie Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez. Are you going to try to make the case that they're both corporate Democrats?
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  45. And yet his membership continue to go up
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  46. +raven blackseed - That's not what he said at all. It's becoming a really popular tactic among Dore fans to just completely mischaracterize your opponent's argument. Dore constantly gives false equivalencies and his fans are even worse, which is why a large portion of them are Trump supporters.
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  47. No he just thinks a hate letter attached to it saying "I wish I could take all my donations back" is fucking unnecessary and an attack, which it is.
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  48. Pretty much, and the Dore fans are complaining that David is "attacking Dore", when Dore clearly started all this by taking Ocasio-Cortez out of context, something anyone would notice if you realized he ONLY commented on 9 fucking SECONDS of her CNN Interview. David, in comparison, answered a caller's question.
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  49. Unless it's on the right, then he won't say a fucking word about it.
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  50. It's Jimmy's fans who are tribal. They just go along with whatever he says without ever thinking about the bigger picture or the ramifications of constantly attacking people like Bernie and Ocasio-Cortez who are your biggest allies. He's doing the work of Fox News by attacking the left and never touching upon the corruption of the right-wing who own every single branch of government and effectively run the current establishment.
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  51. Except it wasn't an "attack video", he was responding to a caller. Kyle Kulinski danced around the topic for sure so he wouldn't have to insult Jimmy, but he ultimately agreed with the others that Jimmy is going "over-the-top" and "he's just wrong" (his words). People are putting too much attention on the word "toxic" being used as 'name-calling' and not enough people are actually focusing the heart of the issue. I wish Seder and Dixon would've done it in a more passive way along with Pakman just not referencing the words at all so we could've had a real discussion about this, but this has just devolved into "No you're 'Toxic'!!" and it's just going nowhere now. There is a real issue with Jimmy Dore I think and most of the defenses here are not even focusing on the actual problem.
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  52. +Hangover1993 - Except, as usual, Jimmy went overboard with his outrage over something that was said for 9 seconds on CNN. If you're going to nit-pick every single thing someone says on mainstream media, then you're no better than the establishment when they attacked Ocasio-Cortez for saying "the occupation of Palestine". Her "even the governor" mention should not be enough to set off Jimmy Dore on a smear campaign against a true progressive like Ocasio-Cortez especially since she campaigned for Nixon against Cuomo for so long. How do you not see the problem with this? She did the right thing for months, and you're going to call her a "co-opted sellout" because her wording on CNN didn't make you happy at one specific moment? She clearly doesn't actually support Cuomo, it's the reason why she tried to beat him in the primary and eject him from politics for good. To pretend like that's not the case, you're just being intellectually dishonest.
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