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Comments by "David Aspinall" (@yt.personal.identification) on "Did Ancient Civilizations Have Their Own Ancient Civilizations?" video.

Just think, Australia's First Nations societies existed 50,000 years before ancient Egypt. Not 5,000... 50,000 YEARS MIND BLOWING EDIT. If this comment bothers you, then ask yourself why. See below... or don't and save yourself the bother. Note that it is a comment about the perception of time. Let's see what bothers people the most about it.
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And Australia 's First Nations predate that society by 50,000 years.
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@brucetucker4847 The culture has remained unchanged even until today, in some parts. 50,000 year old rock art is read and maintained to this day.
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@micha2909 We get to hear the stories from a living 50,000 year old culture. We witness and take part in "welcome to country" ceremonies as they have been performed for thousands of years. It is quite thought provoking, for those who think about it objectively. Some live even today just as they have for millennia.
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@micha2909 Is that an acknowledgement that it was indeed consistent? EDIT LATER... Why do you feel the need to attack my accurate trivial fact? Why belittle it? Is it threatening? Is bigotry involved?
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@fraskf6765 You are entitled to your opinion even if it is nothing more than a dog whistle.
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@garymaidman625 "civilisation" is capable of building a dredging machine to keep the mouth of the Murray open after we destroyed the river in less than 200 years. Is that how you judge the success of civilisations?
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@garymaidman625 50,000 years before Ancient Egypt... 60,000 years. You can do basic addition. Good job. I said societies, not civilisations. If you want to be pedantic, do it properly. You just want to change the wording so you can argue the definition of civilisation as a way to belittle and demean. It seems kind of desperate and a little pathetic.
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@btd7664 Comparing these time spans to what we think of as 'Ancient History' can mess with perspective sometimes
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@garymaidman625 I like the part where you claim I am the one picking a fight by simply making an innocuous observation that seems to have hit you deep. More gaslighting.
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@JarlBarbossa Cope? With what? Huh?
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@garymaidman625 My comment says societies. You tagged me in this specific thread. Why the gaslighting? What is your aim here? Can you state it?
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@garymaidman625 Just think Australia's First Nations societies existed 50,000 years before ancient Egypt. Not 5,000... 50,000 YEARS MIND BLOWING Why do you need to try to belittle that interesting piece of innocuous information by attempting to discredit or attack me? Is your issue with the topic, or is it me personally you are targeting?
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@garymaidman625 All this because I commented about Israel's cases of war crimes before the ICC. Now, you follow me and turn innocent channels' comments into a toxic mess. I get that you don't like that I can speak about International Law, but you need to start considering collateral damage - this channel - when instigating your personal crusade. Show this channel some respect.
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@JarlBarbossa They lived on land we can't survive on. They didn't clog the mouth of the Murray. I guess it comes down to what metric you are measuring achievement. You just seem intent on belittling.
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@DragynryderMW Victim? What? How am I a victim? What do you think you know about ne from that post? You try way too hard.
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@kotzpenner The original comment was just an innocent, interesting thought I shared. The reactions changed everything, so I adjusted.
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@kotzpenner Pavlov got it wrong. When they answer a dog whistle, you don't reward them with feeding them. You play with them while they salivate, instead.
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@ThrockmortonSign No. I didn't. But thanks for explaining my feelings to me. It makes complete sense now
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@ThrockmortonSign And yet, my original comment is still accurate. ... and innocuous. Flail more.
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@simesaid Thanks for your interest. After reading the first couple of lines, it is clear you, too, like so many before you, have been drawn to the wrong part of my comment. It was merely a comment on the way we call 5,000 years 'Ancient History'. Referencing Australia's Traditional Owners seems to have really drawn a very specific type of attention. It has been illuminating. I wonder if people may have recognised the time perspective of my comment had I mentioned the Kalahari instead. After all, that was the point. I am glad you hung on my every word. I can't say I did the same for your karma farma. ... and thanks for playing.
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@pinetreepizza Nah... I am saying 50,000 is bigger than 5,000, and even that is confusing for some. How did you have so much difficulty?
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@theguyof360 No. I didn't at all Why lie?
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@chaosking911 I know, right? Who would have thought I would encounter such resistance against the idea that 50,000 is bigger than 5,000. Bizarre .. but hilarious? Thanks for playing
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@CerealMilkk That is a completely normal thing to say to a stranger upon first interaction.
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@frankvandorp9732 I have always had a point. 50,000 > 5,000 Simple point. Caused much confusion. Now, did you have a point? Hypocrisy, maybe.
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@SkaterNate1 It's a gift. The Pied Piper had nothing on me.
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As all these "ancient" societies rose and fell, the First Nations people of Australia continued just as they had for tens of thousands of years before any of this. This video covers around 6,000 - while in Australia their societies were there 50,000 years before any of that. A true "ancient society" Edit Why are personal attacks allowed, assumptions and accusations of an axe to grind is allowed, but asking what axe that is, will get censored. WHY? It is a choice this channel makes.
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@JustCrash Well, duh! That's why no one used the word civilisation other than the AKCHTUALLY crowd. Welcome.
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@cmt6997 Super edgy. Wow! Are you white?
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@cmt6997 I don't believe you are that stupid.
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@sentientglitch No one said it was. ... but thanks for playing. 50,000 > 5,000, but we call 5,000 "ancient" It isn't difficult
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@sentientglitch Is there something I said that you are attempting to dispute? I am not sure if you have a point. Are you?
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@MatthewSmith-xl5cr That was a very generic answer that will fall over on examination. There is rock art in Arnhem Land maintained and used today that dates back more than 50,000 years, and the story is still told today. Yes, 50,000 years did add more than 300 language variations. With those time scales and distances, of course, people change over time. That isn't some genius insight. However, the changes you claim are not evident. You seem to be attempting to apply Eurocentric archaeological mistakes made when trying to understand history to a current living society able to speak for itself. That said, the point you completely missed was a time scale comparison.
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@oskarprotzer3000 I hope you will be able to cope.
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@carlosandleon The question is about who they would call ancient people. The video isn't about architecture and laser light displays.
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@IM843-SC Ancient Egypt PLUS 50,000. So more than 50,000.
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@LudwigVaanArthans None of that makes what I said any less accurate. ... but you tried. Why would you that? Did you get a little rush of excitement?
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@garymaidman625 Extending it to 60,000 years, now talking about 80,000 years does NOT make 50,000 years incorrect. Even your pedantry is flawed.
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@garymaidman625 Your dog whistle is bad, and you should be embarrassed
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@baneofbanes Wrong. ... and not as a continuous society. Why are people so keen to dispute my one harmless piece of trivia? Do you find it threatening in some way?
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@garymaidman625 Nope. Why does it bother you so deeply?
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@garymaidman625 Why were you so bothered by my trivia? Why are you intent on belittling Australia's First Nations people?
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@garymaidman625 Show this channel some respect. Your personal crusade should not effect innocent victims.
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@garymaidman625 I would happily take part in an honest discussion on these topics. However, this personal vendetta you have brought into this channel is clear and obvious harassment. I am a big boy and will happily help feed your family one response at a time at your bosses expense, but this channel doesn't need this toxicity. Show the channel some respect.
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@garymaidman625 I hope you have a wonderful day and find joy in your life.
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@garymaidman625 Have a wonderful day.
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@garymaidman625 Bless your heart
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@abrvalg321 We are talking about time. You can keep your dog whistle
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@JarlBarbossa The fact my little expansion on the original exploration of time span has garnered such a virile reaction is truly delicious. No one was upset about time being talked about when it concerned the Egyptians. Why are you so enthusiastic about my comparison? What could it be? What is it about my comment that has attracted such motivated discussions?
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@JarlBarbossa Las Vegas? Australia? Ummmm...
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@rfbftp123 Here. Have some attention. It is free for me to give it to you and you clearly need it.
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@Unethical.Dodgson Thanks for taking the time to tell me it meant nothing. I am just glad you reddit... umm read it
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@gryaznygreeb What has that got to do with comparing 50,000 to 5,000 years?
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@scottcantdance804 I like the part where you talk about a weird flex.
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@zeruty Here, have some attention.
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@kotzpenner It's the thread that just keeps on giving.
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@ryanschwan2507 That is a similarity between them, not a difference. You aren't very good at this.
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@vegetableman3911 You will need to explain mwhy you claim that. It makes no sense. Can you explain it? At all... ?
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@ThrockmortonSign What question?
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@bardsamok9221 Narcissist? All because 50,000 is bigger than 5,000? Really? Thanks for joining in.
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@HerrMisterTheo Your contribution was immense.
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@HerrMisterTheo Luckily, you have the time.
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@h.k.203 You are late. This is old. You are trying way too hard.
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@zorenwhite7886 It had been a real eye opener. I understand that many were just trying ( very badly) to troll, but they were so comfortable with the subject matter they chose.
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@wegonbeokay-o2l What edit? What was wrong?
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@roguewasbanned4746 Yes... had. Past tense. So they didn't have continuity for such a vast time scale. These time scales really mess with some people's ability to comprehend. That was exactly my point.
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@YapsiePresents Misinformation? It's true. 50,000 is indeed bigger than 5,000. Don't you believe it?
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@oldthriftman4035 There are so many who desperately need attention, and it costs me nothing to give. You get some, too.
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@frankvandorp9732 What did you assume to suggest I am a victim of anything? This should be good. Why am I a victim? Do tell.
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@oldthriftman4035 Thanks for playing.
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@frankvandorp9732 You know that no one in Egypt lives the same lifestyle that they did 60,000 years ago... right? You do realise that, right?
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@frankvandorp9732 You realise that communities in Arnhem Land exist as they did 50,000 years ago, right? You know that, right?
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@frankvandorp9732 I didn't post about being populated 50,000 years ago. I commented that the communities have existed unchanged since at least 50,000 years before the times known as "ancient Egypt" You just joined a pile on without knowing what was really happening. Often, a boisterous crowd is wrong - don't blindly join in. That is just silly.
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@frankvandorp9732 Oh... so you were unaware that they live today just as they did back then, and my comment referred to current communities. That explains why you thought your comment was clever and edgy. I am glad I could help you learn something.
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@thomasford5893 It's just a fact. It is neither good nor bad. That's how facts work. Don't involve your feelings. That's weird
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@thomasford5893 What prompted you to think "pride" is in any way relevant? Did you make foolish assumptions?
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@alexvermaak1759 If you want to argue about stuff you made up, do it with yourself. I find it hilarious that bringing up Australia's Traditional Owners has bothered you so much. Thanks. None of what you said changes the time perspective.
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@shamanschlong Weak? Emotional? That makes no sense. Try again.
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@GiovanniStefanetti-f3k This just keeps on giving.
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@RuralJuror420 There are/were so many groups and so many lost languages - around 300, apparently From what I know, many of their stories include migration tails and creation stories , but so much is lost forever. I really don't know enough to talk with any authority and don't have the right. It was genuinely just meant as a comment on the perspective of time.
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@SevenCostanza I didn't. But if I did, why would it bother you enough to comment?
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@mnomadvfx Sure, but that amount of time for Egypt was significant. For Australia's Traditional Owners, that is just a rounding error.
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@WheatDos The fact it bothered so many so deeply ended up truly hilarious. I didn't realise that counting was so divisive. Unless it was something else that bothered them.
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@CaptainTodger69 That is probably why no one did that. Why did you feel the need to state the obvious?
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@CaptainTodger69 No. It is a thread about the perception of the passage of time, hijacked by 4chan
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@CaptainTodger69 You seem to think that a comparison between the societies was made. Why?
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@CaptainTodger69 The video and the original comment are about the perception of the passage of time. I simply added another comparison of time using another group. If I used Kalahari as the basis for my comparison, would it have upset as many? That is another society that has remained unchanged for tens of thousands of years, too. Who would they consider to be ancient people? Did I type slowly enough that you could keep up?
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@CaptainTodger69 Why does my comment bother you so much?
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@allangibson8494 Exactly.
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@raisofahri5797 Another much longer timeline than the Eurocentric meta. Very cool.
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@shyviking That is an odd reason for it to bother you that 50,000 is bigger than 5,000. Their societies still exist today just as they have for all that time. I hope that doesn't bother you too much. The question remains. Who do they call " ancient people?"
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@pomodorostudyclub The real question is, why are so many bothered by my mockery of what European historians class as ancient?
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