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@itsinthetreesitscoming7431 Explain Tyson's boxing ability please. Give me another good laugh. Tell me about all the classical boxing he does. Haha. He comes forward bobbing and weaving to get the big shots off in an aggressive manner. That is not boxing. That's a pressure fighter. Lennox is a boxer.
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@espertix5839 You've completely mistaken what i mean. I'm not putting Tyson down in any way. I'm one of the sane ones who considers him an ATG and not the most overrated Heavyweight ever. But i'm also not one of those who thinks he beats everyone in history if he had Cus his whole career. What i am saying however, is what style Tyson had. He wasn't someone who moved off the back foot. He couldn't win a fight on just the jab alone the way a classical boxer like a Lennox could. He wasn't a fighter that would circle in centre ring keeping the right distance and using his feet and boxing. No, he came forward with pressure whilst moving his head to get past his opponents jab to get close and unleash hooks. He was a fighter. Not a boxer. Foreman, Frazier, Marciano were fighters primarily. Lennox, Holmes, Klitschko's were the other way. They were primarily boxers. Holmes and Lennox could fight it out when needed, but they always looked to set everything up in the classical way. There's a difference. Hope this helps.
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@droo3010 Sorry, but i had to tell you how painful it was reading your comments. To say Haggarty isn't beyond the level of nearly every UFC fighter in the stand-up is astonishing. But to go further and claim Rodtang isn't the best, adds to it. Who is the best if not the champion Rodtang? But wait, it gets even better. You try to downplay a fighter due to losses. That's a very limited scope. You could say that about nearly every ATG in combat sports. Not only that, but you claimed Johnson beating Rodtang is some kind of evidence. They had 1 round of MMA, then 1 round Muay Thai and so on. Johnson ran when it came to the Muay Thai then got him down on the ground where Rodtang literally has no experience. The same Johnson who lost to an actual low level fighter in Brad Picket. Anyone with eyes can clearly see how high level and proven Haggarty is. He's much more proven than any of the British UFC fighters. Anyone claiming otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about. Also learn what "One of the best" means. It doesn't mean THE best.
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@John.Flower.Productions Haggarty clearly has your attention with the accusation of PED's. Go on, who did he beat that has you this bitter?
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@dawidvanstraaten Haggarty is coming off 3 KO wins. In fact, almost half of his fights end in a stoppage either way. Strange comment.
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@John.Flower.Productions Tell me how Haggarty is on them but the other fighters aren't? What do you go off here?
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@John.Flower.Productions Which fights did Haggarty bypass the hydration process? Your eyes tell you he's on them even though most other fighters are more chiseled than he is? Your eyes aren't telling you anything then. Your emotions are though.
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@John.Flower.Productions If Haggarty factually bypassed the hydration process like you claim, then you'd be able to provide the evidence for it. What visual signs does Haggarty have that no other fighters have with your accusation?
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@John.Flower.Productions Oh, you're playing that game are you. You know well i didn't ask for signs on the hydration comment. I asked for evidence. I asked for signs for your doping comment. So, when are you actually going to answer the questions instead of deflecting all the time? It's clear what the comments are.
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@bl-nb8fo You keep telling yourself that. They were big favourites and were unbeatable going in. But as soon as they lost, you had to pretend they were done. They weren't even close to being so.
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@John.Flower.Productions Ohhhhh, it's not your place to say even though you're the one who made that comment over and over again about him skipping the hydration process? If it wasn't your place, you wouldn't have made any mention of it on a public comment section. But you made it "Your place". You just don't have any answers to your clear slander. Why can't you tell me how you came to the doping comment? Don't tell me, it isn't your place there either even though you slandered him and actually went out of your way to discredit him. It isn't a fact otherwise you'd say. You just don't like the fact that i'm directly questioning you on your comments. You want to go with vague answers. Not direct and factual ones. It's because you made it all up. No one who likes someone slanders someone with malicious comments. So your comments down stand up to scrutiny there either.
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@John.Flower.Productions The only one you're exposing, is yourself. By the fact you've spoken about this on a public forum, it could very easily be traced back if it were true. But that's the thing, it isn't. No one who has any genuine thoughts to protecting a "Someone" who may face repercussions if this got out would go out there a spew it on social media and have them become involved. It's nothing but a cop out coming out with this because it's slander. Nothing more. Certain people like their own comments to make them look justified. There are parts of the world that do this on the regular. It's sad. It's easy to know who does it if you're clued up.
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@John.Flower.Productions You keep on with the "Liable" comment because you're in need of feeling like you're in control when, you clearly aren't. We're going with ad hominem attacks now? I'm not a kid, i'm in my 40's. But nice try. You've already betrayed them by speaking about it on a public forum. What part of that are you not understanding? You were trying to discredit Haggerty but copped out when asked to justify it. You knew you couldn't as it was nothing but "Liable" so made up some story. Don't make accusations you can't support in future. Now sit back and watch the Thai's get the business like they've been getting over the past few years. And this is only the start of it. More will come. Just like it happened in Pride with the Japanese. Soon you'll be watching through your fingers it will get so bad.
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@rickydunbar330 You don't think Haggerty is a quality fighter? Yeah, he is. I think the original comment describes him perfectly.
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O'Malley and Topuria have never faced fighters with this level of stand-up so haven't been forced to defend like Haggerty has. If they did, they wouldn't be standing for long. In a fight on the feet, Both O'Malley and Topuria would be stopped by Haggerty. He's too good for them in the stand-up. LOL to saying Haggerty doesn't last a round with them. Seriously, thanks for the laughs.
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Lennox is an ATG and the best Heavyweight in history. But he isn't the greatest fighter to come out of the UK. In fact, he isn't even in the top 10 all time for UK fighters. The greatest is Ted "Kid" Lewis.
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Those with Irish ancestry don't even come close to being the best fighters England produces. Who can you name throughout history that has Irish ancestry? The reason to why Haggerty is as good as he is, is due to being in an environment that produces great fighters and has done so throughout history. Those who are born and raised in Ireland cannot fight to save their lives. That's why they have very few in history. Those few they do have, achieved very little. How many Irish born fighters can you name that were any good? As for the Army and Navy comment... What??? They did no such thing.
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Haggarty isn't Irish. Nor is there anything like "Irish blood". If so, break down the science of it? How does the blood know what Irish is? You only need to look at those who are born and raised in the Republic of Ireland and see they're not in any way shape or form, good fighters. They can't fight worth a lick. The reason to why Haggarty is as good as he is is due to the environment he was brought up in. IE, the UK. The UK has a vast history of great fighters. Ireland does not.
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@arfurdaley6399 It's Haggerty. Not Heggerty. Haha. I know the name is traced to Ireland. I'm not disputing that. What i am disputing though is you saying "Irish stock. What do you expect?" Well, i don't expect anything. Why would i? The Irish don't produce good fighters whereas England produces great fighters and always have. That's why Haggerty can fight the way he does. He's conditioned by the environment. If you think there's some special kind of magic in the blood due to having some faint Irish ancestry, i'm asking what that magic is scientifically? Break it down to me. Also, who are these great Irish fighters produced in the Republic of Ireland born and raised without any other ancestry being involved if it's to be expected when a fighter is great?
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Duran gassed out badly against Hagler at the half way mark. Had that not been the case, he would have won that fight. Hagler only took it by a point on my card.
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@majormackeral Bruno was a good world class fighter. But when talking about the greatest fighters ever produced by the UK, Bruno's name won't rightfully be put up. Many, many other fighters will come up well before he does.
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@empelto How have you come to this conclusion? Just bitterness? I guess he's doing great then if you've been forced to discredit him due to beating your favourite fighters.
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@empelto I'm sorry, what? You accused him of doping. I asked how you came to this conclusion. You've come back with a comment about food. What is different between Haggerty and the other fighters?
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user-ul1vp5hr8q Who cares where they train? What is this even supposed to mean? They're as good as they are because they have the abilities to be this good.
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In the stand-up? Not a chance. You'd see O'Malley and Topuria fall pretty quickly if they fought this level of stand-up. They only look the way they do due to their opponents being woeful on their feet. In order to reach this level in which Haggerty is on, you have to be great in the stand-up. Most UFC fighters are just basic brawlers. They have no real skill. Sorry.
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@John.Flower.Productions If Haggarty bypasses the hydration process for a fact, you'd be able to show me these facts. Where is the evidence? That's all you have to say about whether Haggarty is on PED's or not? "You have a complete lack of knowledge"? Wow. So profound in your reply. No, i'm asking you to point out the signs he's on them where others don't have them. You know like, physical signs? Break it down for me. You've not done that in any way shape or form. You've produced deflections and nothing more.
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@John.Flower.Productions Hello? You've gone awfully quiet. Is there a problem?
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@John.Flower.Productions You've gone really quiet when asked for the evidence to your comments? I think it's clear to how good Haggerty is considering your comments. You're threatened by him for good reason.
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@John.Flower.Productions Are you actually going to come back and finally answer the questions, or are you going to keep deflecting and making excuses? It's clear your comments on it not being your place don't stand. You wouldn't have said anything in the first place otherwise, would you? P.S Stop liking your own comments too.
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@John.Flower.Productions It's the same thing. It can't be true if you don't provide any evidence. If you didn't want to speak on any of this to "Protect" someone, you would never have said anything in the first place. It's nothing but a cop out due to slander. Nothing more. Just look for comments like yours and see who they are written by. It's bitterness.
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@John.Flower.Productions I know slander is spoken and liable is written. I've already acknowledged that and told you they're basically the same thing. But you clearly want to feel you're making a point due to looking nothing but foolish up to now. Why would you speak on something that's supposed to be in confidence in the first place when you clearly can't justify your claims? Aren't you already risking someone's job by putting this out there? It doesn't take much to trace your account and see who you're involved with. You do know that can happen with slander like this?
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@fxcanman4664 What has this got to do with anything i said on this thread? Absolutely nothing. Haggerty moved up because he was struggling to make the weight. He isn't moving up again. He'll just dust himself down and get back on the horse. You know, like any fighter does when they lose.
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@fxcanman4664 I'm sorry. What are you talking about? Check the dates of my last comment before replying to you. It was 6 months ago. The discussion had nothing to do with whether Haggerty lost to Rodtang twice or not. What do you mean you can show me evidence? Are you under the impression i don't know the results of the fights or something? LOL. What? Of course i know the results.
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@fxcanman4664 I'm a fanboy for explaining that my last comment was 6 months ago and the discussion wasn't about who Haggerty lost to? I have absolutely no idea what you're going on about. You're talking about a completely different subject to what i was discussing. LOL. Go to bed. Get some sleep. It's clear you need it.
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@fxcanman4664 Logical thought isn't something you're used to. it's clear to see. Nothing flew over my head. What you said made no sense as to what i was saying. If i asked you to point out exactly where i was upset over Haggerty's loss, you wouldn't be able to come close to doing so. It's because, there is nothing there of the sort. Try and get more sleep. See if that works.
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Where in the fight did the ref let him recover?
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Haggerty is the biggest star in One. Haha. Just look at his accomplishments. It's easy to see why.
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Rolling around on the ground does not equal a "Badass fighter" In fact, quite the opposite. To be badass, you need to be a proper fighter which is found in the stand-up. Rolling around on the ground is for those who can't fight properly so find other ways to compete.
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These are the very best fighters in Muay Thai. What are you talking about? Cans????? You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. It's not an opinion that UFC fighters are levels above. It's fact? Care to provide your facts for me? The eyes don't lie. Most in the UFC have no real technical skill level in any area. They're basically street fighters when it comes to the stand-up. With these guys though, you haver to be the very best to become champion as the top 40-50 can all stand with a high level of skill. You don't see that happening in the UFC. It's a limited pool of fighters who have that kind of technical ability.
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He isn't trying to sound like AJ. Haggerty is from London. He has a London accent.
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@itsinthetreesitscoming7431 Did you just claim Tyson is technically the superior fighter? Hahahahahahahahaha. Man are you on some seriously strong drugs. If Lennox was a 10 in the boxing ability bracket, Tyson is a minus 10 in comparison. Tyson was a come forward pressure fighter and nothing else. Lennox could actually do it all. He most certainly didn't put himself square on all the time the way Tyson did. Tyson's actual ability to box is non existent. You clearly haven't got a clue in what you're watching. I've read some crazy stuff in regards to Tyson. But this is one of the craziest.
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You do know they're both the same thing? Haha. But is he the only one on them? Are his opponents clean? If so, how do you know?
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@aavinashchaliha7810 Performance enhancers and steroids are the same thing. They enhance performance. I didn't say everyone was on roids. I asked you if Haggerty was the only one on them. If so, how do you know? How do you know if Haggerty is on them? Why did you make that accusation towards him and no one else? What do you see in haggerty that is different to his opponents? You're the one who made the accusation. I want you to justify it.
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@aavinashchaliha7810 So only Foreigners need them to compete with the unbeatable Thai's? Hahahahahahaha. Yeah, they don't. But keep telling yourself that after watching them getting beaten time and time again. I knew this was down to bitterness. Get used to it though. It's only going to get worse. It will end up like the Japanese in Pride where they kept getting beaten so shut it down to save face. You know it's coming. If Haggerty is on them, then they're definitely on them. Just look at their physiques compared to Haggerty. They're jacked. I'd love for you to explain though why "Farangs" need them but Thai's don't? I have to hear this. For the record, the UK is a hotbed for great fighters and has been for centuries. Thai's don't even come close for internationally known great fighters like the UK is. The only reason to why Thai's dominated their own sport was due to them being the only ones participating in it. That's changing all the time. It's clear you're feeling it too with these kind of comments. It will only get worse.
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@aavinashchaliha7810 So only Farangs need them to compete with the unbeatable Thai's? Hahahahahahaha. Yeah, they don't. But keep telling yourself that after watching them getting beaten time and time again. I knew this was down to bitterness. Get used to it though. It's only going to get worse. It will end up like the Japanese in Pride where they kept getting beaten so shut it down to save face. You know it's coming. If Haggerty is on them, then they're definitely on them. Just look at their physiques compared to Haggerty. They're jacked. I'd love for you to explain though why "Farangs" need them but Thai's don't? I have to hear this. For the record, the UK is a hotbed for great fighters and has been for centuries. Thai's don't even come close for internationally known great fighters like the UK is. The only reason to why Thai's dominated their own sport was due to them being the only ones participating in it. That's changing all the time. It's clear you're feeling it too with these kind of comments. It will only get worse.
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@aavinashchaliha7810 So only Farangs need them to compete with the unbeatable Thai's? Yeah, they don't. But keep telling yourself that after watching the results over the last few years. I knew this was down to bitterness. Get used to it though. It's only going to get worse. It will end up like the Japanese in Pride where they kept getting beaten so shut it down to save face. You know it's coming. If Haggerty is on them, then they're definitely on them. Just look at their physiques compared to Haggerty. They're jacked. I'd love for you to explain though why "Farangs" need them but Thai's don't? I have to hear this. For the record, the UK is a hotbed for great fighters and has been for centuries. Thai's don't even come close for internationally known great fighters like the UK is. The only reason to why Thai's dominated their own sport was due to them being the only ones participating in it. That's changing all the time. It's clear you're feeling it too with these kind of comments. It will only get worse.
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So only Farangs need them to compete with the unbeatable Thai's? Yeah, they don't. But keep telling yourself that after watching the results over the last few years. I knew this was down to bitterness. Get used to it though. It's only going to get worse. It will end up like the Japanese in Pride. You know it's coming. If Haggerty is on them, then they're definitely on them. They're jacked. I'd love for you to explain though why "Farangs" need them but Thai's don't? I have to hear this. For the record, the UK is a hotbed for great fighters and has been for centuries. Thai's don't even come close for internationally known great fighters like the UK is. The only reason to why Thai's dominated their own sport was due to them being the only ones participating in it. That's changing all the time. It's clear you're feeling it too with these kind of comments. It will only get worse.
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@aavinashchaliha7810 What happened to answering the questions? Have you no rational response?
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You think this is only Kickboxing? One shows MMA, Muay Thai and Kickboxing. And yes, no other organisation has this level of stand-up across the board. Their striking is vastly superior to any other.
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