Comments by "Stephen Villano" (@spvillano) on "Dr. John Campbell"
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@michelleaugust9958 given that the virus was already well spread, as has been found by testing older cases, it was a case of closing the barn door after the horses escaped straight into the flood.
The virus was spreading quite rapidly in December, alas, undetected and late being detected in China by local leaders who only wanted to report good news to the central government.
Now, shall we discuss sending public health workers who had no training in contagious disease, without equipment, to evacuate civilians that were flown from a cruise ship where the epidemic was rampant? His championing workers going to work while ill? His claiming that 50 sick people were actually 15, repeatedly? His inventing shit as he goes along, proclaiming he's more proficient at anything and everything he's ever heard of than people with PhD's in the field?
Not to mention his contradicting his own public health care experts in telling elders to fly, when those experts said it'd be insanely dangerous for them to do so.
Of course, my wife and I aren't fans of the wannabe God-king Emperor, but we met him in person long before unreality TV became a thing and he was an obnoxious idiot then.
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Hypertension isn't more prevalent in those infected, it's those who are sicker had hypertension. So, self-isolating themselves may lower the risk of infection, it would lower the risk for a part of that population only.
So, if only say 1/3 of those infected badly enough to go to the hospital have hypertension and of those, around 1/4 - 1/3 die, the benefit for 2/3 of those infected is minimal, worse, one then has to consider the hospitalization rate, rather than discharged home and how many go to intensive care.
What should be done is isolation for all, obviously with family groups self-isolating together, which would interrupt the infection chain. That was done in 1918, but then political will weakened and the second wave met loads of people no longer isolated and in the US, more people died of influenza than died from the US in WWI.
Which seriously injured the economy, as if a business owner and all of the employees are sick or dead, that's kind of bad for business. Especially that dead part, for who is now going to employ those recovering workers?
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Honestly, it'd be a shorter list to count the BSL-2 labs not working with monkeypox. It's a slightly elevated concern virus that's an incessant annoyance. It spikes somewhat randomly, then falls to a low noise level, but thankfully, it's BSL-2 for a reason, it doesn't spread easily to humans and it's even worse at spreading between humans that aren't closely cohabitating.
More exciting is the newer vaccines, which have lowered vaccine related illnesses from the 1% of vaccinia to something more along the lines of modern vaccines, which is so low as to have most physicians never see any significant events. Given that I suffered from a thankfully aborted progressive vaccinia as an infant, I take great relief in the new vaccines!
One upside is, orthopox viruses tend to tightly conserve their genome, they are lousy at jumping species due to the nature of its tight conservation of its genome.
That the lab doesn't have the virus available isn't surprising, as they may well not be a BSL-2 lab for that research and hence, the virus wouldn't be available to them any more than their remaining samples of variola would be available. Fragments that are assembled and installed into yeast, that's not anything that one needs be concerned with from a biosafety perspective. But, if they're configured at most for BSL-1 and monkeypox is BSL-2, yeah, not gonna happen. A fragment does not a virus make, reassortment or recombination be damned, given it's in yeast or are unpackaged DNA and hence, non-viable.
But, if virologists working with viruses is bad, we should close all virology labs throughout the world, destroy their work and call it a good thing when the next pandemic kills in wholesale numbers.
Of course, one can carry that illogic throughout technology until we're back in the stone age.
BTW, what virology lab had the last outbreak of smallpox, after it was rendered extinct in the wild again? Janet Parker was the last fatality and because of that mess, proper oversight and planning for all BSL-4 facilities in the world followed. The University of Birmingham Medical School does win prizes for the rapid response, isolation and ascertaining root causes and leading the discussion on how to properly create such facilities!
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The British need a sense of humor, given that the last human case of smallpox was in a UK university biolab, killing a photographer on another floor.
Thankfully, the school recognized that things were awry and isolated, investigated and lead the charge to new, modern standards of BSL labs.
Which, given monkeypox virus is a BSL-2 virus, if the researchers labs were lower, they'd only be able to work with fragments that they ginned up in the lab or ordered.
Given that the PRC has their own samples of smallpox, including the oldest samples of the virus in the world, as the virus did originate in the region thousands of years ago, it's consistent with BSL protocols prohibiting monkeying about with viable monkeypox virus outside of necessary work in BSL-2 labs.
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@ealswytheangelicrealms lately, I've been getting forecasts that generate much jocularity. As an example, 35% chance of rain means in reality, 100% chance of heavy rain.
And as is typical of late, today it is going to have a high of 66 degrees and it's currently 67 and climbing, was five degrees higher yesterday than forecast.
Yeah, the models are knocked straight into a cocked hat, but the climate isn't warming, the God-king Emperor said so.
Of course, he also says that sick people should still go to work, elderly people should still fly and everyone should fly and stay in hotels at various gatherings, as the hospitality and travel industries are suffering losses. I guess having population losses is better than any loss of income over the short term for stockholders!
Welcome to 1918, mark 2!
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