Comments by "Black Hat Cinephile" (@BlackHatCinephile) on "Top 10 MESSIEST Band Break Ups" video.

@codasm The Monkees came DURING the Beatles career. About midway through the big part of their active career. The Monkees were cited BY the Beatles as one of their more recent modern (latter 60's) rock influences. The Monkees were invited to and were present at the Sgt Pepper recording sessions. Learn some fucking history before you embarrass yourself publicly.
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@EclecticoIconoclasta I feel the same. The Eagles have one good rock song, and the rest is cowboy shit. Same with Lynyrd Skynyrd, to a lesser extent, but I've exceeded my lifetime limit on how many times I can hear Freebird. Grooved to it before it overplayed, but it could be used on me as a torture device, now. I've heard the band members say on an old scratchy vhs that jamming, doping and boozing all night morphed And Your Bird Can Sing into Freebird by morning. So hell, their rockinest song was an accident.
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It didn't break up the band. This is messiest BAND breakups. The Mustaine/Metallica business is covered in the videos about member feuds, quittings and firings.
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@commander1982 By 1967, yes. I've heard Beatles say they adjusted to what the Monkees et al were doing, to remain relevant in the latter 60's. No judgement, because the Beatles started out kinda fake, too. But the Monkees were fighting Kirshner to let them be real, and the Beatles were trying to become real since Rubber Soul, so there was more in common with them than we knew. That's why the Monkees were invited to and attended the Sgt Pepper recording sessions. Mickey met his wife there, and Mike appears in the Day In The Life video. The Monkees song Randy Souse Git is about meeting the Beatles and Mickey's wife and basically being there, witnessing Sgt Pepper being made.
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@TannerGSR Why not? They'd take influence from Elvis, Little Richard, Dylan, Beach Boys, Hollies, Animals, Yardbirds, Stones, just to name a few, but not the Monkees? Do you even know how creativity works? Every new thing is an amalgamation of pretty much every previous thing. The Beatles began before the Monkees began, but the Beatles and the Monkees had about four overlapping years of being active at the same time. The Beatles heard the Monkees, they liked them, they were fans. They're on record saying they were fans of the Monkees. They didn't just say it, they invited the Monkees to the Sgt Pepper sessions, and they went. I'd say it's impossible for there to not be some Monkeeness in the latter Beatles.
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@codasm Show me where I said they were. I can show you where you said this was about before or after. Now you're changing what it's about? You just wanna fuckin argue. I never accused the Beatles of being style-clones of the Monkees, but there is an obvious influence. From mimicking to style-cloning, there are varying degrees of copying. Everybody's influenced by everybody. The Monkees were created to be sort of an American version of the Beatles, for tv, for kids. Even at first, there were a lot of similarities, but it wasn't an exact copy. In 66, the Monkees were more in-sync with the latter 60's than the Beatles were, at the time. The Beatles needed some new pop influence, to modernize. The Monkees were just one of the sources they used to change their sound. The Monkees styles didn't permeate the Beatles style entirely, they didn't become Monkees clones, but the influence is there in the music, to be heard. Hello Goodbye is so Monkee-ish, it could pass for a Monkees song. There are others I can't think of that are probably even more Monkee-ish. In other songs, the influence is more subtle. And you can hear other bands' styles in the latter Beatles music. It's not a crime, though, everybody does it. It's part of musical trends.
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I've heard the Beatles also fistfought each other, but it was kept out of the press. It's mentioned in a few biographies and interviews, but it's not made into "news".
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The Beatles broke up peacefully, compared to many others on this list.
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"Fray"? smh. It's like they do it on purpose.
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