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@DrinkWater713
Ive studied psychoanalytics, philosophy and evolutionary morality in the past as an atheist. I learned that religion is mass psychology, religions are the first fields of science in the form of psychology, and after tens of thousands of years; christianity is by far the best thing human beings have come up with in terms of “instruction manuals for society.”
Thats the issue, your conclusion is “if you want answers, study some complex field of philosophy or evolutionary psychology.”
Thats the first thing humans ever did. Language its self arguably emerged through warnings about our actions to other members of the group.
There has been a religious instinct since then. And in conclusion, BY FAR the most boiled down, super heavily refined thing we EVER came up with as a species is in the bible.
The story of cane and abel alone surpasses anything written by Shakespeare, literally, when you seriously study in depth how that story emerged, how every single word of every single story has been carefully ruminated over thousands of times by thousands of the worlds smartest men for their entire lives.
Nothing comes close, morally speaking. Nothing. Certainly not some individual great philosopher who is most certainly influenced greatly by religion in almost all cases…
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Infant adoptions began declining in the early 1970s, a decline often attributed to the decreasing birth rate, but which also partially resulted from social and legal changes that enabled middle-class mothers to have an alternative: single motherhood.
From 1945 to 1973, it is estimated that up to 4 million parents in the United States had children placed for adoption, with 2 million during the 1960s alone.[2] Annual numbers for non-relative adoptions increased from an estimated 33,800 in 1951 to a peak of 89,200 in 1970, then quickly declined to an estimated 47,700 in 1975.[3][4] (This does not include the number of infants adopted and raised by relatives.[4]) In contrast, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services estimates that only 14,000 infants were placed for adoption in 2003.[5]
These days every single child can be adopted by a mother and father, which is much healthier for the child.
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@TPom8458
Forget about work, since you don’t engage in any.
“In my opinion” is your argument.
Religion is comprised of tens of thousands of people over 10,000 years COLLECTIVELY brainstorming how the average human should act in society. We didn’t have civilisations prior to religions, because people were simply tribal and opinionated. Religion is the attempt to UNIFY what everyones idea of morals are, and produce an instruction manual to follow.
The bible is particularly special because they produce jesus christ, a near perfect model of an impossible human based on the idea of good morals from thousands of minds.
You know none of those minds are corrupt because they all work on the future, none of the writers gain any notoriety or fame or status. They simply work on their opinion their entire life and compare it to the other thousand minds before them doing the same thing. And because they say jesus is a man who walked the earth, it means you can put the impossibly good character at the TOP of your list of people you respect, above trump, biden, kanye, mlk, the dali lama, your dad, the cool kid at school, the rich guy at work, hitler, everyone.
Thats the point. All those people are chasing fame and selfish crap, jesus didnt exist WHICH MEANS he couldn’t possibly be chasing those things. He cant lie to you.
Starting to make sense? Its MASS PSYCHOLOGY. 10,000 people who spend their entire life thinking about morals and comparing it to others.
If we isolated a “morality gene” then used that to make up 99% of human DNA, then grew that human in a lab, it would resemble jesus christ.
Starting to make any sense yet? No magic. No sky wizard. No bullcrap. Just psychology on a broad scale.
I discovered religion when i discovered psychology. I was atheist prior to that. Now im a christian atheist.
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@polyliker8065
I know plenty of rich guys going on “business trips to china.” Prostitute city baby. Keeps the relationship at home warm since men are naturally polygamous. And sexually devious.
I read a recent study that said the average western man has the testosterone levels of a 70 year old.
Lowlowlow.
Women started disrespecting us. Now were encouraging homosexuality and transgenderism. Not just saying its okay, encouraging it: promoting it on children.
Theres no respect for the child.
Theres no strong father figure saving the child from the emotional nature of the woman.
Open relationships are disgusting to me. Less than 5 years is very telling, they ended when the “love died.”
Dude, again, love is fickle. The love will die and the woman will be unsatisfied with YOU if you’re not the stoic strong man i mentioned earlier. Were all capable, its a mindstate. Im not saying barbarian.
Im saying you have to be emotionally strong enough to handle not only your own emotions, but her emotions, and then some. All whilst being financially stable and kind and all of that. Its ALL ABOUT THE MAN and what hes capable of when it comes to humans. Then she sees you as a good role model and she will feel safe with a father like you helping her raise her children.
If shes promiscuous and in an open relationship. End it. End it dude. Thats a fail.
Most women these days of young adult age are corrupt and downright NUTS because of social media. You need to be strong enough to get over that yourself and take her out and show her the world. Protect her from herself. Women are lost without the guidance of men. The whole bible tells men how to do this. It has nothing much to teach women, because men are capable of and should be taking care of every member of the family.
Then you get two guys together and its just cockpleasuiring. Nothing more. Nothing more. Nothing more.
A guy can learn to suck it better than a girl, il admit that much. Beyond that, its childish behaviour from emotionally damaged men. And its the plight of the modern world, as sad and cruel as it may seem to admit.
We need MEN to be MEN. Not boys. And especially not girls.
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@ZetsubenSama
Yes. You NEED to take them seriously. I’m serious dude, I’m an engineer and an ex atheist, i know exactly what you’re talking about and i understand your point. But i was wrong and you are wrong. It has NOTHING to do with magic, no wizards in the sky, no reincarnation. I never has a vision. I don’t even think jesus was literally a person, its BIGGER THAN THAT. Its MORE IMPORTANT THAN if jesus was real or not. The metaphor is immaculate.
Its the same as science, 99% of people just cannot understand science, they’re dumb.
Millions of people deny science like you deny theism.
And a small percentage of people actually properly understand the science and know how powerful it is. I’m one of those people. I get paid to do physics, and I’m telling you religion is FAR MORE COMPLEX than physics, and FAR MORE PRACTICAL toward our lives.
Like imagine how long it would take me to explain my understanding of physics to you, and religion is way more complicated because you need to learn a brand new way of looking at the world, just like i do with physics. Most people simply CANNOT look at the world through a scientific lens, so they have to believe.
I’m telling you that you’re incapable of looking the world through a metaphorical lens, so you’re going to have to believe because your one of the less cognitively gifted people.
Its hard from this perspective, you’re basically a kid who hates homework but is damaging the species by not studying because you don’t believe in the science.
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@ZetsubenSama
Religion has a method.
I applied the scientific method to religion and it worked, thats what stopped me being atheist.
Prayer is a literal thing. Really sit down ask yourself where you left the keys, your subconscious will tell you after 10 minutes.
Really honestly seriously wholeheartedly sit down and ask yourself “what stupid thing am i doing every single day that I shouldn’t be doing”
Your subconscious WILL give you an answer that you have NEVER considered in the past.
That is prayer. People don’t think of it like that, but thats precisely what prayer is.
Men have done that for TENS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS their WHOLE LIVES and written down the answers, then compared the answers to eachothers own “prayers.”
They all saw a correlation, even people from cultures on the other side of the planet.
THAT IS GOD.
Its not a magic thing putting words in your head, its the WORD, THE NAME FOR YOUR SUBCONSCIOUS MIND THAT YOU NEVER TALK TO BUT CAN AND SHOULD TALK TO IS GOD.
Make sense?
Religion is MASS PSYCHOLOGY. You study 100,000 different SUBCONSCIOUS thoughts, you dont just see correlation, you see IDENTICAL patterns.
Religion is the study of those subconscious patterns, and the goal is to refine morality, AND TO STUDY EVIL, but we want the good morality to win as religious people because THATS HOW CIVILISATIONS STAY ALIVE IN THE LONG RUN.
Starting to make sense yet?
It has nothing to do with your beliefs and what you have seen, 10 MILLION men before you have spent their entire lives studying the human psyche and comparing notes, then producing literature in regards to their findings.
That is the scientific method being applied to ones self.
Einstein would have accomplished nothing without the scientists who came before him, this goes for all scientists. Its COMPOUNDING KNOWLEDGE. No single brain can ever know all the information or know better than the whole human endeavour put together.
Religion and science are identical in this sense, except religion is FAR OLDER, is a form of science (psychology) and has had FAR MORE men who committed their entire lives to understanding it.
Science is objective and applies to the natural world, it can teach nothing in terms of morality.
MASS PSYCHOLOGY is the term i used for religion, because thats what it is. For the smart people.
The dumb people just wholeheartedly believe the metaphors because you cant ever teach them how it works.
Just like the dumb people trust the doctors because you cant ever teach them how biomedicine works.
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@ZetsubenSama
What are the easter bunny, santa clause and the tooth fairy a metaphor FOR?
Why do we feel they are so important to teach children?
The bible is the first instance of the scientific method. Peer reviewed psychological endeavour.
LANGUAGE BEGAN AS METAPHORS. Thats the part you’re missing too.
And you realise tens of thousands of people in the modern day literally stare at and talk to god through “burning bushes” like salvia, Ayahuasca, magic mushrooms and purified dmt right?
Humans have consumed magic mushrooms for millions of years, animals like leopards consume psychedelics. Theres a “burning bush” metaphor that the government instantly made illegal and psychologists have only started to take seriously in the past few decades, theres ancient spiritual wisdom FAR EXCEEDING modern “intellect.”
Just what the hell are we, you and i?
The natural world and the universe is a crazy complicated field of science, but the science of the human condition? That can ONLY be discussed through “spiritual language.”
Religion is the study of the subconscious. MRI machines showed us the “pineal gland is active” but that doesn’t speak to cultural correlation at all.
Religion is already a form of science and should be treated as such. The reemergence of religion, particularly christianity in the modern technological west (brought on by wokeism and lgbt) is a testament to this and all i can say is a smart person will soon articulate it in a manner you can understand, and you will remember me when you reconsider christianity.
You play it off like a joke.
Every single hero, anti hero and villain movie you have ever seen follows the same archetype as the bible, and for good reason. Its THE METAPHOR, not a metaphor.
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@MageBeLike
Well the definition HAD to change. So every single explanation given to the NEXT generation is based on a different definition to the last 5000 years.
So quite literally, there is absolutely NO chance that there WONT be a societal impact to some degree, good or bad.
And matt gave statistics in this interview.
The divorce rate 30 years ago was 2%.
Gays began suing everything related to marriage.
The definition changed.
The divorce rate is ABOVE 50% TODAY.
People are marrying for much different reasons, you call it freedom, i call it the careless destruction of something extremely important to all families.
It certainly looks like 50 years down the line, people wont even get married anymore, and 100 years down the line, we will try to bring marriage back, if we survive its loss, because we will realise on a SOCIETAL LEVEL how important it was for the past 5000 years.
Now that seems basic to me.
Regardless of whether you are for or against changing the definition of marriage, it is obvious that a societal impact will occur (especially when a dramatic impact has already occurred).
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@madkingme7507
You identify the person by the colour of their hair, eyes, skin, shoes, shirt, socks, shape, if hes fat and ugly and black or “you’re typical mexican”, then you’re an IDIOT if you don’t tell the police that.
There is a massive VISUAL difference between dark and light skinned people, which is important in identification, obviously. Stop with the talk. 3 mexicans were dumping rubbish and one of them was stupid enough to throw a brick at his car like an animal.
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@ari-zk9ln
No this is fun, and that german guy above me has replied to ME and ONLY ME for over 1000 comments, so this is more or less a way to just make that guy lose his mind.
And marriage is about natural family, obviously.
All these sub ideas like “dont give your last name, don’t have kids, don’t keep it monogamous, dont say vowes, dont take it that seriously…”
Thats all perfect under the label of civil union. The casual, dont really care bond. Because that crap isn’t expected to last forever.
Marriage is and should be, because of children. Thats why the word civil union was coined, for gay people who want marriage RIGHTS.
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In a generation or two the norm will definitely be to ask what the point of marriage is at all? After that, it becomes a pointless whatever.
We will fall as a society before realising the importance that marriage has on family, and you mess with the family unit, you mess with the core of civilisation.
I honestly dont believe “outliers” are important enough to even acknowledge at this point. The divorce rate is above 50%. Divorce affects kids in a terrible way. Regardless, the people you mention are at the forefront of the marriage conversation, when they are by far the least important aspect. Adults with immature feelings just dont matter when compared to children. Its not less important, they simply dont freaking matter right now.
Some general statistics.
Single-mother families in the US are more than twice as likely to live in poverty as the typical family.
In a 2011 study, 43 percent of all children living with a single mother were living in poverty.
Children of single parents are at higher risk of negative outcomes such as dropping out of school, becoming teen parents, or going through a divorce in adulthood.
In 2017, over 25% of U.S. families were headed by a single parent (predominantly single mothers), with around a quarter of these living in poverty.
Children from single-parent families account for 72% of teenage murderers and 60% of rapists.
Children raised by single mothers are more likely to fare worse on a number of dimensions, including their school achievement, their social and emotional development, their health, and their success in the labor market.
Children in single-mother homes are also more likely to experience health-related problems as a result of the decline in their living standard, including the lack of health insurance.
Children of single parents (considering the majority is headed by single mothers) are twice as likely to drop out of high school.
Children with single parents show higher rates of psychological problems, such as becoming addicts.
Single-mother households tend to have significantly lower incomes.
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@ZetsubenSama
“However, according to a doctor who has performed more than 300 such abortions, while the procedure is easier emotionally for the patient since she does not have to deliver a fetus which may have signs of life, it produces intense psychological reactions on doctors and on assisting nurses. 15 members of the Boulder Abortion Clinic were polled to obtain reactions to the D&E procedure. Many subjects reported serious emotional reactions which produced physiological symptoms, sleep disturbances, effects on personal relationships, moral anguish, conscious stress, and unconscious manifestations such as dreams. A few respondents expressed feelings of resentment and irritation toward patients who waited so long before seeking abortion, and most felt a deep sympathy for doctors performing the procedure, and a desire to protect them from the trauma of having to view the fetus. It was observed that many of those capable of performing or assisting with the procedure are having strong personal reservations about participating in an operation which they view as destructive and violent.”
- national library of medicine.
But you’re dyslexic and naturally inclined toward justifying destroying the innocent by the millions because of the nazi blood in your veins so you’re just going to snicker and throw emojis like a flag
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You should try the whole deity thing.
First of all, chose christianity because it produced the western laws and western world, notably the glorious US constitution.
Second, call yourself a Christian atheist so you don’t have to get caught up in hoping the metaphors work.
Third, study some psychology on a mass scale.
Fourth, consider this: You may not believe in god and satan right now, but we can all agree evil exist. Good may be arguable right now, but evil absolutely fundamentally exists.
Finally, discard all those immature, false crap ideas in your mind about magic wizards, tap dancing on water, dancing in heaven with your dead dog etc.
The afterlife is exactly what it sounds like, but its not the life after death. Its the life STILL LIVING after you die.
Live a selfish life, your kids and grandkids suffer. Kill 100 people then kill yourself, that affects the life-after your gone. Get it?
Finally finally, metaphors. Metaphors can explain reality in a far deeper sense than any objective, physical, literal event can.
“Curiosity killed the cat.” No need to believe in any cat that died for our sins. Its just a powerful, “TRUE” metaphor that even a 4 year old can digest.
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Yeah, gaes are attracted to parts of the body other than sexual organs.
It is a choice. Its a choice to pursue some freakish fetish that appeared in their head after they experienced some sexual trauma.
People cling to anything they can cling to in order to be apart of a “minority.” Thats flat earthers, emos, Igbt, weed kids, N-words, what do you live under a rock?
Your giving children something cool, special, unique and something to fight blindly for, regardless of how much it changes them or how far down the transition rabbit hole they fall. Kids eat that up, thats how they make child soldiers in africa lmao. You think killer children have a choice?
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@pryo6382
Man woman child is the entire premise of marriage for 5000 years, its how civilised people have children.
Man and woman alone is already deviating from the norm, but the potential is there, or the children are grown up, or its a second marriage, or tragedy has struck and they are infertile.
Man and man is breaking the norm into peices, and man + man had to sue churches and riot naked in the streets in order to gain marriage rights.
The experiment has been done and the divorce rate has skyrocketed, because our definition changed. With the definition comes wisdom, why are we teaching our kids to marry if not for children anymore.
Love? No that doesn’t work. Love is an element, but not the pinnacle.
Love is fickle, it will fluctuate resulting in divorce, if you havent got an even more significant element of attachment. The ultimate obviously being a child.
So why are we tainting marriage? Why cant they BOND FOR LIFE with legal rights and everything else, but CALL IT SOMETHING ELSE?
And no, its its true across the west.
Germany 40%.
United States: 45% (fluctuation)
Denmark: 46%
Italy: 46%
Canada: 47%
Netherlands: 48%
Sweden: 50%
France: 51%
Belgium: 53%
Finland: 55%
Ukraine: 70%
Russia: 73%
Luxembourg: 79%
Spain: 85%
Portugal: 94%
Its not a massive stretch.
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@MichelleLouiseDavis-zl7ub
Its logical that if all humans on the planet do something for 20,000 years straight, up until today, but YOU stop doing it 30 years ago because YOU think those 20,000 year’s of people were just “immature”; you should be stupid and incorrect.
I didn’t guarantee anything, i said 20,000 years of humans vs your stupid little non argument.
Logically, you are extremely wrong.
And you are, like most atheist westerners who simply describe religion in a stupid small minded way.
Its 20,000 years old and counting. Still developing.
Nothing is older, not even language. Not even the pyramids. Not even the oldest living organism on earth.
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It’s funny im a mechanical engineer which is literally just applied physics, i could chime in here but one of you is a chomo and neither of you are making much sense.
All electrons in the universe are identical.
Light exhibits particle-wave duality, which can also be demonstrated to occur in particles, atoms and smaller molecules.
You both sound SOOOO much more confused than any Christian.
XX and XY chromosomes. You mess with even the subset of those formulas and you get down syndrome or useless mutated DNA.
Bla bla bla primary numbers, mathematics is gorgeous but you sound like you listened to a veritasium video and didn’t really get it.
You can replace every positive with every negative and the universe would still function the same, the question is where did all the negative matter in the universe go if it didn’t simply cancel with the positive and annihilate.
People think science started 500 years ago. No. Psychology is a form of science and the chomo mentioned it. The shamans were studying psychology for 200,000+ years, it emerged as we learned language, obviously, because we were like “wtf is a mind.”
Shamans derived stories, and once human populations grew, shamans were able to meet eachother and discuss finding. They brought the notion of morality being the key to massive numbers of humans living amongst eachother.
Religion emerged the second people began writing books for large groups of people to follow, in hopes that the information was good enough to make a society of thousands of people thrive.
You guys want answers from the smartest possible human minds, you need to ponder religious metaphors.
They are put together by 10,000 minds, not one.
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@usernamelegend345
I, ____, take you, ____, to be my wife (or husband), to have and to hold from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, till death us do part, according to God's holy law, and this is my solemn vow.
For better or worse.
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@bobaseth1
Zhang study is on cognitive impairment from what i can see, and its shows same sex couples have a 78% increased chance of being cognitively impaired.
Mazrekaj etc did a study on 6-16 year olds. That study was an online survey given to the parents asking “my child has temper tantrums, my child is liked by other children etc.” Obvious bias by the parents is unavoidable, and the kids aren’t even grown up let alone given a say in the study.
Knight K also studies children 6-16 years old. Apparently some surveys/studies show kids doing better under same sex households; Quote “In addition to
equivalent social and educational outcomes, these studies
conclude that children raised by same-sex couples show better psychological adjustment, and greater open-mindedness towards sexual, gender and family diversity.”
Apparently one child is better than another child if he is more “psychologically adjustable” and “open-minded toward sexuality.”
I sense bias in a lot of these studies.. but the same study shows something interesting i always argue for. Its not about a child’s social outcome and school scores, its their entire life.
Quote: “The study analysed survey data from adults aged 18-39 years and concluded that those with a gay or lesbian parent fared worse on a range of social, emotional and relational outcomes when compared with adults raised by heterosexual, married, biological parents.”
The same studies adjusted toward grown adults concludes they are doing worse in the big world on their own, because their teacher isn’t there to hush bullies, make them feel unique and special and in the dating world the person would be quite warped just like their parents were.
How are two dads going to teach a young man to pick a wife?
How are two dads going to teach a young woman to pick a husband? Vise versa. The adults always do worse, the kids are propped up as political pawns. Too much bias.
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@ZetsubenSama
Well obviously its only been about 6 or so years since the transgender explosion occurred but the data isn’t looking good.
“Gender-affirming treatment remains a topic of controversy, with many calling for greater access to gender-affirming treatments to foster psychological well-being for transgender, nonbinary, and intersex individuals [1-6]. There is accumulating literature that suggests transgender individuals suffer worse mental health outcomes than their cisgender peers; of particular concern is increased suicidality [4,7-13].
The literature to date reveals concerning trends regarding suicidality in transgender individuals. A high prevalence of suicide attempts and thoughts of suicide occur in transgender youth compared to their cisgender peers [11,12,14]. Transgender US military veterans have more than 20 times higher rates of suicide-related events than cisgender veterans [7]. The prevalence of suicidal ideation and attempts varies by sample [8], with the prevalence of suicidal ideation sometimes as high as 50-75% [4,10,15]. Rates of attempted suicide can reach peaks of 30% and above [4,14,15]. One longitudinal study of over 6,000 transgender individuals in the US indicates that the highest risk of suicide is among those under 18 years of age [9].
Transgender individuals are also at increased susceptibility for various suicide risk-enhancing factors, as a growing body of literature suggests that transgender individuals face a high burden of chronic health conditions [16,17], psychiatric illnesses and their comorbidities [18-20], substance use [21], trauma and victimization [20,22-24], and housing and employment discrimination [25].
In light of this high prevalence of suicidality and the proliferation of gender-affirming treatments, a common argument by advocates of gender-affirming treatments is that such treatments are needed to reduce suicidality [26-29]. This review is the first of its kind to evaluate mental health outcomes from gender-affirming treatments solely from the standpoint of suicidality, with the recognition that this evaluation of suicide-related outcomes pertains to transgender individuals as a single group; however, transgender and gender-diverse individuals comprise a heterogeneous population that may experience varying degrees of health outcomes and biopsychosocial stressors.”
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@ZetsubenSama
As others have replied, 42 is a transcription error for 22. If you have an old King James Bible, in Psalms 119 you may see Hebrew letters every eight verses. If you look at the 11th letter, Caph, and the 13 letter, Mem, you may see how a superfluous stroke on the left side might have made a Caph appear as Mem. In the early manuscripts (not the Massoretic texts) the first ten letters sometimes represented numbers 1 through 10, then letter 11 represented 20, letter 12 30, letter 13 40. A copyist who misread a Caph as a Mem copied it as 42 rather than the intended 22. (There are other similar slips, but they are rare.)
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“6I say this as a concession, not as a command. 7I wish that all men were as I am. But each man has his own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that. 8Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am. 9But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion. 10To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife. 12To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. 13And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. 14For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.”
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Also to respond to your “biggest reasons”
The world is NOT overpopulated by any means, and all humans; ALL humans rich, poor, smart, dumb, tall, short, young, old, black, white, attractive, ugly, confident, shy, ALL HUMANS will inevitably suffer in life. Its apart of the human condition. You cannot look at someone and say they are “happy”, even though we often do use that terminology.
Nobody is in any state of infinite happiness no matter what they do. Happiness hit us like a chill down the spine, its a short lived feeling thats very hard to properly define.
Do not live your life chasing happiness. The best thing you can do is to chose your suffering, because you will suffer, but you’re better off suffering at work in order to have a home and to stave off debt than to suffer trying to chase a heroin high for example that you might define as “the only happiness in life”.
Chose your suffering. Children are a good reason to suffer. Keeping your body and mind healthy is another good reason to suffer. You may enjoy suffering in the gym every night. Suffering to have a home at all. Suffering 24/7 knowing you are doing it all for your beautiful child.
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@ZetsubenSama
Fine, ill prove you’re an autistic and all you had to do was google.
“Uganda’s new law, signed by President Yoweri Museveni in February, imposes jail terms of up to life for “aggravated homosexuality” which includes homosexual sex with a minor or while HIV-positive.
Widely condemned by donor countries, the law also criminalizes lesbianism for the first time and makes it a crime to help individuals engage in homosexual acts.
Western donors, including the United States, had halted or re-directed about $118 million in aid to the east African nation’s economy before Thursday’s announcement.
The White House said on Thursday the United States would impose visa restrictions on Ugandans it believes have been involved in human rights violations, including gay rights.
The United States will halt $2.4 million in funding for a Ugandan community policing program in light of a police raid on a U.S.-funded health program at Makerere University and reports of people detained and abused while in police custody.
In addition, Washington will shift some funding for salaries and travel expenses of Ugandan health ministry employees to non-governmental agencies involved in health programs.
It will also reallocate $3 million in funding for a planned national public health institute in Uganda to another African country, which it did not name. A National Institutes of Health genomics meeting would be moved from Uganda to South Africa, the White House said.
It also canceled plans for a U.S.-sponsored military exercise in Uganda that was meant to include other East African countries. A date had not yet been set for the exercise.”
Theres one example.
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@ZetsubenSama
Henry "Harry" Hay Jr. (April 7, 1912 – October 24, 2002) was an American gay rights activist, communist, and labor advocate. He was a co-founder of the Mattachine Society, the first sustained gay rights group in the United States, as well as the Radical Faeries, a loosely affiliated gay spiritual movement.
Controversially, Hay was an active supporter of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA), a pedophile advocacy organization.
Yes.
Communism, ped and gaeness.
Its all coming together now right peanut brain?
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@ZetsubenSama
Yeah always has been.
All humans in recorded history have believed in god, the vast majority of humans today.
Einstein, shakespeare, neizsche, jung, maxwell, da vinci, tesla, newton etc. None of them had a problem with god.
But you, the grave digger from germany, you’re smarter than all of us.
The burden of proof is on you to dismiss god. You’re the minority. Convince us, peasant.
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39 “‘If any of your fellow Israelites become poor and sell themselves to you, do not make them work as slaves. 40 They are to be treated as hired workers or temporary residents among you; they are to work for you until the Year of Jubilee. 41 Then they and their children are to be released, and they will go back to their own clans and to the property of their ancestors. 42 Because the Israelites are my servants, whom I brought out of Egypt, they must not be sold as slaves. 43 Do not rule over them ruthlessly, but fear your God.
44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.
47 “‘If a foreigner residing among you becomes rich and any of your fellow Israelites become poor and sell themselves to the foreigner or to a member of the foreigner’s clan, 48 they retain the right of redemption after they have sold themselves. One of their relatives may redeem them: 4
Read the WHOLE BOOK.
That is not slavery, that is IMMIGRATION.
Thats people from other countries selling THEMSELVES to your family so that they can escape abject poverty in their country and have an identity for the first time.
Thats people gaining citizenship. Thats immigration, the first example of such a thing in human history. Beautiful no?
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@Nonalhomophobie
You ever heard the story of the phoenix?
Its a metaphor. The inferior bird dies and bursts into flames and a glorious angelic phoenix rises from the ashes.
You know what maturity is?
Most of your immature tendencies die off. You separate your weakness from your strength.
You know what the resurrection story in the bible is? A metaphor for that, amongst many things.
You NEED your immature self to die off in order to mature, you need to separate the wheat from the chaff.
Useless immature things like being addicted to weed, trying to be cool by not caring, being gay, telling crude jokes all the time, being weak, being lazy, all that has to die off if you want to mature. Those are sins.
Many young people these days feel suicidal, because they’re not being taught HOW to mature. They dont know how to burn off their useless attributes. They never read a story like the death and resurrection of jesus christ and took it seriously.
That is why you said you wish to sexualise children, and that is why you’re gay. Because you never matured.
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@jennyonyinye1955
Nothing to do with gays themselves.
Its the politics, homosexuals should be absolutely free to bond for life. Just dont call it marriage, because its NOT.
The definition marriage is for a man and a woman to bond in-front of both familys, friends, god and the state; and sign a contract, and recite vows to stay together for the rest of their lives, FOR THE SAKE OF THE CHILD.
If you try to stay together for any other reason, including love, you will likely fall apart.
The divorce rate went from 2% to above 50% because we started saying marriage is about love and a super bond between two people.
No, it never was until 30 years ago. It was a contract to stay together even if you HATE each-other, all for the child.
Thats the same definition across ALL cultures and across time.
Christians didn’t invent that, bigots didn’t invent that, ALL HUMANS came to that conclusion.
It cant work any other way. Put the kid first, marriage is about kids and always was. Marriage clearly falls apart and becomes meaningless when we forget the child. what the HELL is so evil about that?
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@LordRutledge37
Absolutely positively incorrect in every sense of the word.
Religion is the PINNACLE of what you crudely described, and christianity is the PINNACLE of religion. And i was an atheist until i discovered psychology which leads directly to religion.
Jesus christ is the truth. Literally, the more you say the truth the closer you get to acting like Jesus. Jesus is a medaphor for a person acting in perfect harmony with humanity.
The afterlife is the life after you are dead, i.e. your children and grandchildren’s future.
God is the name for the “source of” morality in the human mind, satan is what we do when we ignore that morality, which we do in many many many complex ways.
Buddhism is about as good as it gets in terms of spirituality with no “diety at the top.”
We “worship” god for one reason. You have a religious instinct and you WILL look up to somebody. All humans (and all creatures with a nervous system) observe the people around them. We take what we see and refine it.
A man can go slay a lion, come home and his son can see his confidence brought fourth from courage and emulate that confidence. That observer, if he is honest with himself, can take that “observed courage” and manifest it in himself to the point where he himself could also slay a lion just from what he learned from his great father, for example.
So humans observe, and look up to people, period. SOMEBODY will be at the top of your list. Whether superman, your dad, kanye, trump, the cool guy at school, mister T, the dali lama, MLK, your professor, whatever, we will ALL look up to somebody.
The problem there is people are flawed. All people. You will make mistakes and be led astray if you look up to someone wholeheartedly, and you will be let down in some way shape or form.
God is the solution to that. We took the BEST parts of ALL THE BEST PEOPLE across MANY cultures, we debated and argued and had holy wars over what aspects of the perfect person should be kept and discarded between cultures, and we refined absolutely pure, impossible, metaphorical humans to follow.
Jesus, like all messiahs, is that medaphor. Hes impossible. Hes god in a human body, and we say that so we can mimic god in a real sense. No person is that insanely perfect, but looking up to HIM, whether real or not, will ALWAYS be better than some dude today that you think is awesome.
Our favourite movies capture that idea, superman, hercules, even the antiheroes like the joker, batman etc. we can relate to them. But they’re basic, they’re 100 year old ideas.
Jesus took 10,000 years to produce. ALL OF THE SMARTEST HUMANS ALIVE spent their ENTIRE LIVES brainstorming and debating over the perfect human for everyone in society to copy.
We started doing that when we started making the first civilisations, and realised humans needed a perfect role model for this whole unnatural civilisation thing to work at all.
Jesus is by far the best one we ever made, hence the fantastic west.
But jesus is the truth, and the truth leads to science, and science leads to atheism, and atheism leads to the internet, and in one generation we think were smart enough to just dismiss jesus and replace him with the collective mind of the internet.
Maybe we can one day, but thats definitely not today. And this is definitely not some stupid fking kindergarden issue buddy.
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@LordRutledge37
Yes, theres an element of almost “indoctrination” but you, like spirituality, deviate from the OBJECTIVE USEFULNESS of spirituality. We’re all spiritual. So what? Who does that help?
Its all in our head anyway, how can we bring it out. THATS where the practicality of jesus comes in. And yes, hes a product of previous religions, just as satan is derived from the ancient egyptian Set and the virgin birth predates christianity for thousands of years. But you do see my point. We were spiritual for arguably 200,000+ years. We started to really apply it and debate it and study its practicality when we came up with the idea of civilisation, then we began producing messiahs and role models and judgemental gods etc.
Also Dont forget, most of humanity is dumb. They aren’t going to have this conversation, its simply easier to tell them as children that “gods watching so don’t steal.” So i see your kindergarten argument, but thats for practicalities sake as opposed to any ultimate plan.
But yeah, i suppose religion is applied spirituality, or as i like to say “mass psychology,” or “instructions for civilisation/culture.”
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