Youtube comments of Thunderf00t (@Thunderf00t).
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"The paper goes into great detail about the methods used to determine phosphine concentration."
-yeah, they go into great detail of how difficult this measurement is. This is certainly trying to fish a signal out of the noise type levels. Quoting that they did this in the paper does little more than confirm they are down in the signal to noise level!
In any event, Im not sure what you are complaining about, I praise them for being able to measure anything that small, AND assume that their tiny signal is correct! Not really sure why you are so upset here!
'You state multiple times that the researchers didn't consider (many) other methods when they obviously did. And they state as much and provide the methods and source code for their analysis.
> "We find that PH3 formation is not favoured even considering ~75 relevant reactions under thousands of conditions encompassing any likely atmosphere, surface or subsurface properties (temperatures of 270–1,500 K, atmospheric and subsurface pressures of 0.25–10,000 bar, wide range of concentrations of reactants)."'
Oh jeese! All this crap can be summed up as the phosphorous oxygen bond is strong. If you need pages of source code and thousands of conditions to work this out your might want to consider reading an entry level inorganic chemistry textbook.
'Lightning striking the surface is also discounted (21:41)'
No it wasnt.
" because the Venusian crust is largely basalt and there isn't enough lighting."
.... i dont know where youre getting all this from, but it wasnt the paper. You do realise that its not even clear if there is lightning on venus, let alone what the surface composition is. But the signs of lightning an vulcanism and MANY times clearer than this 'phosphine on venus' and millions of times stronger than 'phosphine is a sign of life on venus'
Even if there was a huge quantity of phosphides produced on the surface, just as you say, there isn't a lot of water for hydrolysis reactions at the surface. It is almost exclusively in the clouds.
1) fail on understanding of atmospheric mixing.
2) Riiiighht. So phospides on the surface couldnt produce phosphine cos no enough water, but you are perfectly happy to entertain the idea of that water magically condensing somehow so that bacteria can make that same phosphne out of.... OH THE SAME WATER YOU SAY THERE IS NOT ENOUGH OF!
"Lastly, the researchers completely acknowledge that unknown chemistry could be responsible and even list those explanations first:"
Oh is that the researcher in this video who proudly claims 'In my earlier work I stated that if you find phosphine on ANY terrestrial planet... it can ONLY mean life'' Why thats an odd way of saying it could be something else!
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ziah Reid Dude, theres a golden rule, do not start spouting 'facts' unless you know what you are talking about.
Aspirin tablets that are essentially 100 % aspirin (its what wiki says, and its what I've personally measured) are sold all over the place, and you are just flat wrong when you say aspirin is "very hazardous in its purest form".
"Either way it's an acid so it's dangerous to the point were you wouldn't want to ingest a large amount of it, bathe in it, or inhale it."
Gosh its an acid, so it must be dangerous, like amino acids? Oh wait no, those are the standard building blocks for proteins, including amino acids like glutamic and aspartic acid, or maybe how about deoxyribonucleic acid ribonucleic acid? Oh wait no those acids are DNA and RNA and are essential for all current terrestrial life. Or citric acid, oh no that the core of the citric cycle. Or the worst one of all, soap is stearic acid!! and we do bathe in it! And I heard this rumor that soft drinks manufacturer dump lots of carbonic acid into their fizzy drinks before sale, and there are no government regulations to prevent them from doing this! People just drink it without knowing that they are drinking acid!
I guess with so much acid in your body, you are in immediate danger!! If you or anyone else on earth feels sick, it must be the acid! Why doesnt the government do something to protect you from being contaminated by all these 'dangerous acids'? /sarcasm
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