Comments by "Name" (@Name-kd5jj) on "Tesla Model S P85D vs Porsche Panamera Turbo S drag race" video.

  1. @Teslafanboys SHUT UP, the Tesla lost because its slower than the Porsche, stop making excuses.
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  2. ***** No the Tesla is just slower.
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  3. amapolishplummer I know right, its so funny to watch them make excuses. Their tinny little brains just can't come up with a good enough excuse though. Its like watching a cat trying to open a locked door.
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  4. Carlos Malave Hydrogen has failed to take off because the government doesn't want it to. Just like electric cars, they used to ban them until they realized that they were shit and no one would buy them. Now electric cars serve as a scape goat to prevent people from realizing that Hydrogen is the future. That way these rich bastards can keep raping the world and polluting the Earth.
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  5. amapolishplummer Yeah, to them the Tesla is faster than a jet fighter and more luxurious than a Rolls Royce. I guess a good word for it would be delusional. 
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  6. Carlos Malave No actually i'm a Hydrogen fanboy.
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  7. Alright well i've had enough. You Tesla fanboys have proven one thing and one thing only: Tesla fanboys are all year old 12 boys who think Teslas are completely infallible in every way. Face it the Tesla lost the race get over it. Tesla makes great cars but they're not perfect, if a Tesla looses a drag race its no big deal, theres more to cars than straight line acceleration. Grow up and stop arguing. 
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  8. Why do you have a picture of a koenigsegg for your profile picture? It uses gas not electric. Hypocrite?
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  9. ***** Haha, you are a aluminum foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist. What do you honestly know about physics? Basic law of physics: an object at rest will stay at rest until it is acted upon by an outside force. In this case the Porsche had a greater force.
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  10. ***** So your plan is to replace all of the cars on the road with electric cars with no power and no range? Well guess what, an economy can't function if all of its motor vehicles are electric. How are people supposed to transport goods across a country? At best they have a range of 200 miles, the US is 3000 miles from coast to coast. That means they would have to stop 15 times to charge, which takes 10 hours or so. What if a truck is transporting perishable goods? That means complete collapse of the automotive infrastructure and ultimately a collapse of the economy. Plus you have to consider the batteries. They are made of various materials which have to be mined out of the ground. They are in limited supply and will run out in no time if everyone starts driving electric cars. Then you end up in the same place you would be if the oil ran our in an oil economy. So what if we could combine the advantages of an electric motor and an ICE. Oh wait it exists, its called HYDROGEN. The only thing holding hydrogen back is the cost. This is subject to change especially as the technology changes. In the end we have to find an alternative to oil or else we risk complete regression to the 1800's. Electric cars are not it. For one they only address the issue of motor vehicles and not the bigger issue of the energy industry as a whole. Hydrogen has the potential to become all encompassing, we just need to invest time and money into it to find cheaper and more efficient ways of utilizing its incredible potential.
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  11. amapolishplummer Probably not, given the fact that their insults are usually quite childish.
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  12. amapolishplummer I know, he did that on another thread too, he wants people to think someone agrees with him.
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  13. ***** You're so pathetic. Really you Tesla fanboys will make up any excuse.
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  14. ***** A minor in physics but absolutely no grammar skills. hmm..... But guess what, its not all down to weight and aerodynamics. Its all down to the automotive mechanics behind it. The Tesla has an electric motor which has a very smooth torque curve, but it has far less top end than the Porsche. The Tesla gets off the line faster because of the immediate surge of torque, but then the Porsche's horsepower kicks in and allows it to reach a higher top speed at the finish line. Its like nitrous cars vs forced induction cars in drag racing. The nitrous cars make all of their horse power in the first half of the race whereas the forced induction car slowly builds boost as it gains in rpm.
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  15. ***** The Porsche was faster off the line because its faster all around. The Tesla gets off the line faster than the Porsche in regards to relative performance. 
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  16. Scott Lezchuk Hydrogen tech is something that is still in development. Like anything else it takes time. Regardless we have to find an alternative to fossil fuels. Its clear that electric cars won't work because : 1: they don't have any range 2: the batteries are trash 3: they only address one part of the energy problem. So then if hydrogen isn't the future and electric cars aren't the future, then what is the future? Hopes and dreams?
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  17. ***** Yeah i just like to screw with them, its so funny to watch them make up excuses. Like it was rigged or the driver was too fat. 
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  18. ***** Actually i have an IQ of 154 which is 54 points above average, or 100 points above your less than average IQ. So either you're wrong or you have one incredibly intelligent smart board. But its funny how once again in typical fanboy fashion you make excuses. The Tesla could be racing a Bugatti and you would say it lost because of a bad start.
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  19. ***** IQ is relevant to this argument because Mr Cars specifically mentioned IQ's. Derp
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  20. azalru You know so little about cars its amusing. 
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  21. relaxintojoy No the Panamera Turbo S costs only $180,000 and has 5 seats. It gets 15 city/ 24 highway. Both cars are designed to be luxury sports sedans. Please do your research before you make such claims, its highly unprofessional. 
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  22. ***** You sir have just confirmed what amapolishplummer  said in the first comment. Tesla fanboys are annoying as hell. Go back to playing with your hot wheels.
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  23. Jonathan.HDK.O'Toole I know right, they get upset anytime the Tesla looses, which is almost every time.
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  24. ***** Did the Tesla win the overall quarter mile drag race? Don't tell me that it got a bad start either.
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  25. ***** And another butthurt Tesla fanboy. Thats like saying it was all staged when your favorite football team loses. You can't just cry fraud whenever it doesn't turn out the way you wanted it to, thats part of being a adult something you know nothing about because you're 12 years old. Stop making excuses.
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  26. ***** Just leave him alone, he trolled me on another thread. No matter what you say he will always reply just to get on your nerves. Don't feed the troll.
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  27. ***** Yeah, he did the same to me. He said i had a IQ of 95 and then he kept going down by increments of 10 each time i replied. I mean come on at least be a little creative. But i guess we should feel sorry for the guy, he obviously has failed at life since birth. 
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  28. ***** Haha, troll the trolls.
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  29. You've just confirmed that you're a 12 year old. Good bye child: )
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  30. You're the one making gay jokes like a little boy.
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  31. disgraceland uk God you really have no good comebacks do you? At least put in a little effort.
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  32. Larry You need Jesus.
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  33. James Majerus What about the toxic batteries? And what about the rest of the energy industry? Hydrogen costs so much because its a new technology. I know hydrogen was originally going to be used in the place of gasoline but it never was and therefore is essentially a new thing.
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  34. Scott Lezchuk Wasteful? Whats really wasteful are the batteries used to power the Tesla. Fuel cells are clean and hydrogen is renewable. 
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  35. James Majerus You have the observation skills of a rock. I clearly stated that hydrogen is not new, but it was never fully explored until recent years. Therefore it is essentially a new technology.
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  36. Scott Lezchuk Electric cars may make good performance cars but thats not relevant to the survival of the modern world. You're also forgetting that electric cars and fuel cell cars are basically the same. They both use electric motors, they just use different means to power them. But you also have to look at the bigger picture. What about the energy industry as a whole. Solar and wind power simply isn't enough to replace coal and nuclear power all together.
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  37. occdoes mc Its actually not as polluting, but whatever. What you need to remember is that we have to find alternatives not just for motor vehicles but energy production as a whole. Experts estimate that we only have enough oil to last another 30 years. What happens if we run out and we haven't converted to something else? Complete and total collapse maybe?  Its either pay a little more for hydrogen or regress back to the stone ages. This would mean a complete economic collapse followed by mass food shortages. Then the worlds population would gradually die off until it reached the point where our technology could support it. This is probably around 500 million or so. Good luck surviving in a world where you only have a 1 in 14 chance of making it ;)
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  38. occdoes mc How so? 
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  39. occdoes mc Hydrogen is taken from natural gas because its currently the cheapest way to do it. But hydrogen is also found in very large quantities in the oceans. Its expensive yes but as i said its either pay the extra money for hydrogen or run out of oil and cause a complete collapse of human civilization. But as far as storing it i don't know which method you're thinking of but compression is the easiest way. It can be dangerous because you have a tank full of highly compressed gas but in the end its no more dangerous than storing gasoline.  BTW: you always loose energy in any situation. Its simply taking energy that you can't use and converting it into a usable energy. Like an ICE, it takes the unusable chemical energy stored in gasoline and converts it into mechanical energy. But in the process it looses energy, its a term called mechanical efficiency.
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  40. occdoes mc Yeah, did you at least read my comment?
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  41. occdoes mc Yeah but thats like people that said that computers would never take off because the earliest ones were the size of a building and could only do basic calculations. Now look at where they've gone, we've managed to shrink something the size of a building down to something that can fit in you're pocket. If you don't see my point then i guess you're not very bright.
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  42. occdoes mc Really? We don't have a century though, we only have enough oil left for another 30 years.  So then whats you're magic fix for all of this? Nuclear power? Hopes and dreams?
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  43. occdoes mc You didn't get my point, which proves that you are a person of substandard intellect. Technologies change and evolve. You don't know what we'll be using in that century? How do you know then that hydrogen won't be the answer? Are you a prophet? Right now hydrogen is not a viable option because of cost, but given the massive benefits of using hydrogen over fossil fuels i would say its something that WILL be the source of all power in the future. You don't understand the simple fact of the matter. All of this technology that we have today is made possible by one thing and one thing alone, fossil fuels. So its either we find a substitute for fossil fuels that can provide the same kind of explosive energy required for modern technology or we give up ALL of our modern conveniences. Hydrogen is and always will be the only such substitute. 
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  44. occdoes mc Hydrogen is the only way to sustain our current way of life. Yes its more expensive but once again its either pay more or give up all modern technology. I'm not just talking about powering cars, i'm talking about powering EVERYTHING. Imagine a massive power plant filled with rows and rows of hydrogen fuel cells. Then you can use this clean energy to produce hydrogen fuel which means it not longer pollutes anything at all. Plus you can use the waste products of the process for constructive means. You can take the water produced by the power plant and use it for irrigation or any number of things. You could also use the oxygen produced when making hydrogen fuel and use it for something, idk what but we could find uses. This means that you take the exhaust from it and use it for something constructive, with fossil fuels you only get toxic gases that destroy the planet.  Nuclear fusion is undoubtedly the most efficient way to produce energy, behind antimatter that is. The problem with such technology is that its not entirely realistic. It uses way more energy than it produces, it also uses hydrogen but it turns it into helium in the fusion process, which means that the hydrogen is lost forever, that means its no longer renewable and we might as well just stick with fossil fuels. If we end up using fusion for say 1000 years, how much of Earth's hydrogen would we have used up? This is hydrogen that would be taken from the oceans, this would mean the oceans would slowly dry up until life on earth becomes unsustainable. Not to mention the radiation. Hydrogen fuels cells take hydrogen from water and produce water vapor, so it recycles itself. For those reasons hydrogen is a far more realistic option.  So besides cost can you give me any logical reason why hydrogen can't be the future?
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  45. occdoes mc Yeah because of cost electric cars are a better option for today. But you have to look at tomorrow. I'm not even so much concerned about pollution, running out of oil is the bigger issue here. The reason hydrogen won't be implemented anytime soon is because of people's refusal to do anything to change. We could be investing time and money into developing hydrogen fuel cells and who knows where it could take us. I'm not saying electric cars don't have a place in our future, but for energy production as a whole hydrogen is our best bet. Regardless I'm sure we can agree on one thing. Fossil fuels have got to go.
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  46. occdoes mc Too late if nothing is done, we have about 30 years to make clean cars mainstream or else its game over. Unfortunately nothing is being done for either electric or hydrogen cars. Oil is just too damn lucrative.
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  47. occdoes mc Yeah well we know nothing is going to come of either one. Looks like its game over. God save us
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  48. S.T T. Its either hydrogen or no motor vehicles, electricity or any other modern convenience. Simple as that.
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  49. S.T T. Its actually very simple. We need natural resources to produce electricity and to power motor vehicles. I assume that you agree? Currently we rely on a variety of nonrenewable fossil fuels. Key word is nonrenewable, which means that they will run out at some point. Current estimates for our oil reserves stand between 30-50 years. Other resources such as coal are harder to determine. But oil is the most important because it is what fuels our vehicles, without them other resources like coal are useless due to the inablilty to transport, mine and process them. If we do run out of oil it will mean complete collapse of all modern technology. Hydrogen has the potential to replace oil and the only issue at this point is the cost. So we either pay the extra money or we throw away 300 years of advancement.
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  50. occdoes mc So you're going to power the world with batteries? Seems way more expensive than just using hydrogen and then wasting a small amount of electricity. Not to mention the fossil fuels will still run out eventually even if we reduce consumption. With your plan batteries are used to reduce consumption. Its only a short term fix, I'm looking beyond 50 years.
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  51. Carlos Malave Yes because nothing in the history of the world has ever changed.
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  52. disgraceland uk Above genius actually, but i don't call this trolling. I call it shutting the trolls up by providing solid facts.
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  53. disgraceland uk What the hell are you doing right now? Trolling perhaps? Shut up you simpleton. 
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  54. disgraceland uk Not upset, just amused that you accuse me of trolling when you are the one trolling. I say i have a genius IQ and you respond with an insult. Thats the definition of trolling. So if you respond in an insulting manner to my statement, it is in fact trolling.
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  55. disgraceland uk No i just assumed that a self respecting human would be smart enough not to insult someone for being a troll when they know they too are a troll. By insulting me you are insulting yourself. Derp.
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  56. disgraceland uk No you trolled me by insulting my intelligence remember? You invaded my conversation with *****  and you also trolled *****  for saying lol. Therefore you are a troll.
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  57. disgraceland uk Even though you just said you weren't trolling. Hmm, you seem to be contradicting yourself.
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  58. disgraceland uk Improperly phrased sentences are to blame. 
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  59. disgraceland uk I'm sorry that i don't read your comments very well, i have better things to do. 
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  60. disgraceland uk I hate letting trolls feel like they've won an argument with me. I have a somewhat elitist personality and hate to loose. Even if it means wasting time online.
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  61. disgraceland uk I never lost the argument. There never was an argument. Just you trolling me, then i misread a few sentences and now you calling me stupid for it. Do you honestly feel like you've won?  Why don't we try having an educated debate on something like quantum mechanics? You don't know how have an educated debate do you? You only know how to troll like an insecure child that got bullied in school and rejected by the fat ugly girl he had a crush on only because he knew he couldn't do any better.  You want to avoid making yourself look like an idiot? Stop interjecting rude comments into other people's conversations. Goodbye now ;)
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  62. disgraced UK is right. He makes all brits look bad. God bless America.
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  63. The tesla lost, the evidence is in the video. A 0.4 difference is pretty standard for 0-60 tests . The manufacturer's claim are always in optimal conditions, it's generally not achieved in the real world.
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  64. disgraceland uk Really? I didn't even know such a thing existed. The fact that you do just proves how much of a troll you are. And yes i know you're a self-proclaimed troll, so do try that one again.  Do yourself a favor and don't bother replying, because you're only making yourself look stupid and you're failing to even make an argument. Cheers
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  65. azalru Please, the Tesla lost simple as that. Any car can shave a few tenths of a second off of its 0-60 time if its in good conditions and going downhill. This is likely what happened in the videos you watched.  Just accept that your fancy prius lost to a far superior Porsche. 
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  66. ianiva Never said it was slower 0-60, i said it was slower overall. It lost the quarter mile drag race didn't it?
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  67. disgraceland uk Do you have an actual insult. You're like a child, "you're so dumb". Great comeback buddy. Do this, grow a brain and then come back so i can have an actual argument with an intelligent human being capable of more than basic shape recognition.
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  68. disgraceland uk You're still here? God you're like an annoying itch.
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  69. +Mr cars Tesla is just a fancy go kart . 7 seats? Yeah if you put your children in the trunk, which is child abuse btw. So please go back to your matchbox cars now ;)
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  70. May Grindle Why did you have to +1 your own comment? Nobody agrees with you? Maybe because you're wrong? So sad, go away now.
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  71. disgraceland uk We at least you came up with more than "you're stupid". Good boy, you're leaning. Keep it up and one day you might be able to do something with your life. But i wouldn't get your hopes up. Now stay off my thread or i'll report you. cheers ;)
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  72. disgraceland uk No I'm just being the mature one here, a concept you fail to understand.
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  73. mdevp p Don't listen to you, this is my fucking thread. Go somewhere else with your bullshit.
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  74. ***** You're not very smart are you?
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  75. ***** Wrong
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  76. ***** The fact that you think homosexual children play with hot wheels shows how much of a child you are. Anyways have fun driving your imaginary car. Maybe you can take your imaginary girlfriend with you on an imaginary road trip to an imaginary beach or something.
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  77. ***** The Tesla is a great car, but its no match for the big manufacturers. 
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  78. ***** But this is a drag race not an emissions test. The Tesla does not beat every gas car off the line. What about a top fuel dragster that can do 0-300 mph in 5 seconds? 
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  79. Trey B He never specified the type of automobile. He said EVERY GAS CAR.
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  80. No I'm interested in results, not excuses. These fanboys keep making up reasons as to why the Tesla lost. I've seen a race where a Dodge Charger Hellcat with 700+ hp was beaten by the Tesla. But the Dodge was rwd and the Tesla was awd, plus the Tesla is electric, so it got a much better start. Even with the Tesla's massive superiority off the line and much better engineering it only beat the hellcat by a car length. If the race had been 20 ft longer the Dodge would have won.  Now in this race you have a awd Porsche with so much high tech gear it makes the Dodge look like a model T.All it has to do is get a good enough start and in the top end it will destroy the Tesla. Electric cars are excellent off the line, but in the top end they will always lose. Clearly the Porsche with its awd, launch control and dual clutch transmission beat the Tesla off the line and then its ICE killed the EV in the top end like always.  BTW: im not a ICE fanboy, im a HFC fanboy.
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  81. 321Koen You can come up with excuses all day long. But in the end the Porsche won because of its ICE and superior engineering. You're just like the rest of these Tesla fanboys, you cry fraud whenever you don't get the results you wanted. I love the Tesla and would probably consider owning one if i had the money, but it lost the race fair and square.
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  82. 321Koen Okay then whats your "point"? Cause all i've heard is a bunch of butthurt nonsense.
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