Comments by "Ida Larsen" (@idalarsen2540) on "Republicans wave the white flag in MAJOR defeat | No Lie podcast" video.
-
3
-
@msmith53 Germany absolutely learned their lesson, and quickly too. Associating the german population of today, or let alone these past decades after the war (sure, ofc not everyone came around IMMIDIATLY after, and also - MANY germans were also victims of the war, so it's far from like all germans were nazi's), would be hella wrong and ignorant.
Germany is a wonderful country with wonderdul people. I'm norwegian myself, which if you know just the basics of geopraphy, you know that we're very close, almost neighbours. We're (somewhat) divided by the ocean lol, but still, not by much. You can travel there (from Norway at least) on a cruiseship in about one day. You CAN drive there as well, but then you have to go through other countries, and that takes much longer than just taking the cruise. Anyways, I'm getting off track here lol.
My point is, Germany and nazism have NOTHING but history to do with each other, and that's fortunately the way it's been for most of the time after the war until now. It didn't take them long to put up memorials and everything. They've not tried to hide this history, they've 'embraced it', in lack of a better term. Which I wish is what America would've done with slavery for instance. Instead of hiding history and trying to white wash the story, Germany said to "never forget". They have tons upon tons of memorials, they showcase their entire history. It's not like you see memorial statues on every corner, of course not. Still, the last thing they did was to forget it.. they've surely dealt with that piece of tragic history the best way anyone could. I don't know how they could have done it better, really.
Germany surely deserves credit for this. Credit for not trying to hide or minimize any of the terrors that went on. Credit for working hard to write a new and justifiable history. I doubt there's even any german people that even remotely sympathizes with the nazi's (I know I can't think or speak for everyone. Sure, it's absolutely possible that a very small amount of people for whatever reason sympathize with the nazi movement, but no one would dare to even sound like, or cause any suspicion over whether they sympathize with the wrong side of history or not). Were there sympathizers after the war? Absolutely. Did they fade away fairly quickly? Absolutely.
I wish americans would act the same way about their own bad parts of their history. Instead, many people want to erase the bad from their history books. They're for whatever reason to scared to let people get an honest and critical education about their dark history. They only want you to focus on Colombus' "good parts", making him more hero-like instead of telling the whole story. Racism is still far too rapid and blatant (obvs, ughh) in the states. Even by seeing how native americans and black people (America's most oppressed people throughout their history) are STILL getting treated unfairly is just awful.
If you compare Germany and America today, it's clear as day how much better attitudes they have in Germany, and how much faster they were able to progress. I can't remember when Colombus invaded/colonized America or when slavery was abolished, but I know for sure it's hundreds of years. Now, it says a lot when attitudes from the slavery era is still going around in America, despite how long ago it was (especially compared to how "little" time it was since WW2). America's CLEARLY done so much so terribly wrong when it comes to this. Germany at least managed to "quickly" change their attitudes. You have no excuse for these terrible attitudes STILL being prevalent to this very day. Germany managed to do a complete turn around in just a few years (remember, WW2 ended in 1945 which isn't really that long ago), while America, after hundreds of years, STILL want to remove the ugliest parts of their history. Now that's disgusting.
Look, I obvs know there's so much more to American history than just Colombus and slavery, I just picked the two most noteable parts that everyone knows about.
America' it's so far past due time to learn. You can't hide your past. Embrace it, so that you can come out even stronger, like Germany so clearly did. Heck, if anything, it would be far more correct to tie nazism to America than Germany. There's faaaaar more nazi-sympathizers over there than in Germany, or even Europe as a whole. That's scary. Saying neo-nazi would be more correct tho, I get that. I'm very aware of how America was an important ally for us to win the war, but still. That good fact doesn't change the disgusting fact that there are so many proud nationalists, neo-nazi's, white supremacists etc freely and proudly roaming around, shouting their beliefs out loud, with no shame. This has got to stop. Nazism of any kind should've officially ended in every way decades ago. It should have been properly over and done with in 1945. It's time to learn from, value and embrace history, to make the world better for literally everyone. It's clear as day that not hiding your bad past, but learning and growing from it is the much better option. Stop the white washing!!!
2