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Comments by "Rimrock300" (@Rimrock300) on "Assembly of the FIRST NextGen SCANIA Truck for USA!" video.
It's a one off. It's possible, with a lot of paperwork, to get it road legal in the US as a 'demo truck' owned by the manufacturer. Will be allowed for 1 year at the time in the US
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Powder coated (standard) + this truck is painted in addition (option)
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Yes. A big investment. They need to feel sure they will be able to sell a minimum number of trucks in order to make it profitable. Maybe it will happen in the future, who knows. My guess is if so, they will possible first of all focus at the market of vocational trucks like dump trucks and so on where a cabover would be an advantage for local transort like in residental areas.
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' If it aint got a hood, no manual with a long floor mounted stick, and plenty cabin noise, it ain't no real trcuk!'
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@irasthewarrior Many problems with the DEF systems at American trucks with the newer engines.Many truckers prefer older trucks where no DEF required. Those trucks got far less issues. The NG Scania's was improved a lot from the previous series, 4, that spent quite some more time in the work shops, as I've heard from a mechanic. Wish all the best for Scania if they sometime in the future decide to go for US
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If it was 'very unsafe', there would not been millions of cab forward trucks in operation around the world. It's not ment for OTR like driving cross country, with this cab, they will foucs more at the vocational truck market, where cab overs will be an advantage. If they go for the Us, they will take care of service. Navistar is their sister company in the US.
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Is Peterbilt partly Chinese since Chinese got stocks in Paccar?
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It's not about the competiton, but they like 'made in America', as in if you are going to sell a vehicle on the Us market, come build a factory here and create work places, just don't take all the profit abroad. There is a 25 year rule, not able to import foregin made vehicles newer (except a demo vehicle owned by a manufacturer as Bruce's Scania). It was actually Mercedes Benz that made Us politicians set that rule as at a period many where buying Mercedes cars directly from European dealers instead of the US dealers, as it was cheaper due to currency at the time
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Bruce's R770 6x4 would be about 225K in Sweden. With a 500 Hp engine, maybe 190-200K. In the US, no idea of possible cost)
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American truckers are more traditional. They like old style mirrors
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Lol...they are coming for you. Go hide.
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Seems you do. Scania nearly 50 years in Ireland, not bad.
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@chris.eskimo Sorry, your are wrong sir. My statement answer the question 100%. The reason Scania is not in the USA is they do not see a DEMAND high enough to be worthwile give it a go, so far. It can naturally change in the future. All the technicalities with regultions, create plant locally and so on they can fix, as long as they see a certain DEMAND.
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Transported on a ship, driven onto a US harbor.
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@Gr8Buccaneer yes, eastern europe truckers stay in weeks in those small cabs. But they are generally not any picky about working conditions, they take whatever job that pays better than they can earn localy in some poor villages back home. They would sleep in a tent on the side of the truck, if they got a truck without sleeper cab.
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Scania imports the truck themselves via their department in the US (selling and serving engines for boats, generators and more) He work for them as an agent that will showcase the truck
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yes
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It is required by US regulations that both rear axles needs to be driven in order to take the max allowed axle loads. It's old laws from a time where pusher/lift axles where concidered not being able to take as much load as a driven axle
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@jesperdegerman I see now the regulations says both 6x4 & 6x2 config are allowed the max load of 36000 lbs, about 16 metric tons, on the 2 rear axles. A small perentage of US on highway trucks use 6x2, less dead weight, less fuel use, but most still go for 6x4. The US trcuking market is very concervative, wants to stick with the old ways. 6x4 is concidered by many to be a 'real truck', while 6x2 is just something 'halfway'
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In order to be allowed the max rear axle load in the US on need 2 driven axles. The US laws concider pusher axles to be able to handle less load. The laws are old, from a time pusher axles actually where weaker
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These trucks beats everything there is at the US market regarding fuel consumption. Aerodynamics is not your field. Cabover would be welcomed by many regarding intercity transport, voctional trucks. If Scania decide to go for the US market in the future, they will possible make use of the Navistar dealerships, it's their sister company.
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It's a show truck, he wants to show the potenital with the biggest engine and a lot of options around. For demo purpose it's not that important excatly which one of the engines are used, but right, the 500 hp something will be the most potenitally used in US spec'd trucks. It got a extended cab, the XL, which is the longest aviable as of now. Scania got prototypes for a XXL cab, Longline, for this new series of tucks, but it's not aviable for anything but internal testing for now.
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A part of the US market will be interested in euro tech trucks, while a big part will have no interest at all. It's a very conservative market, where lot's of truckers like old school trucks. Another issue is Scania have to also offer a large sleeper, maybe design a hooded truck for the US market, as Volvo got. Volvo has been n the US for decades, lots of euro tech in their newer truck, and they got 10% market share, not a 'huge' share
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Sometime in the future, yeah maybe
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Do US truckers drive the trucks sitting in their sleepers..? The drivers comfort is very high in the Scania cabs, will macth or beat most US trucks. The sleeper and it's size is something else. The standard Scania sleepers are not uncomfortable, but they are smaller than the typical US sleepers. Scania got a 70 inch sleeper in the making
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Okay.
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' If it ain't got a hood, a manual with a long stick, it ain't no truck' seems to be the attitude of a large part of the US truck market
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More than safe enough, more than good enough regarding emissions for the US market. It's manily about politics, making it difficult for trucks assembled outside the US to be operated on the US market.
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70 mph in the US
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40-50% more expencive with that ducth hood, compared to the standard cab. Makes no economical sense whatsoever.
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This is a one off demo/show truck. Who knows what the future holds, maybe Scania will decide to give it a try. Cabovers can be interesting for vocational truCk segment, a dump trucks, concrete and so on, driving locally, could be an advantage with a daycab
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It will not operate in Sweden, so it will not have Swedish plates.
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My guess is Scania first of all are looking at the US market of vocational trucks, like dump trucks and so on, local transport. If getting any bigger market share regarding over the road trucks, they likely had to develop a big sleeper truck. They got a XXL, Longline' cab in development for the cabover that might hit the market, but possible it would not be enough and a hooded truck with a bigger sleeper had to be developed. Big investment and strong competiton.. Maybe they won't take it there, but better find a niche withing the vocational truck segment
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It's a Scania demo truck, will be shipped to the US later this year. He is not going to buy it, just drive it
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Lose some weight
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Have you checked his channel..? There are hundreds of videos of American trucks
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It's not quite how it will workI guess:) The American market is general very conservative, they like their classic old style trucks with big sleepers) But for a segement of the market like vocational trucks, local transport, dump trucks, it could be interesting to many with a cabover
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Yes, very strange why did not asked Bruce to wait 5 years so the could find 500 million to spend and developing a T-cab.
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Scania got no T-cab and Longline to offer for the NG series.That's why.
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No specific plans known, but guess the follow the situation on the US market, as other brands that are currently not represented there. Scania have had a assembly plant in Mexico for some years. New Scanias cross the border in the south now and then in to the US for delivery of goods
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The pin relase is remote controlled. The handle is just in case the automatic system fails
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Google 'demo and show truck
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American truckers loves old school.
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It will be a demo/show truck with certain restrictions on US roads, not allowed to drive everywhere. He has explpained he will have to transport it on a low loader sometimes, and then the the S version got to high. Scania do not have any big hood and bigger cabin version for the S & R
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I agree. I live in Europe and like Scania and all the euro truks. If I lived and worked as a trucker in the US I would naturally prefer the traditional US hooded truck with a big sleeper if regulary being on the road for a week and more. For local trucking like dump truck and such I would defently looked at a euroe cabover
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They would focus at the vocational truck segment first of all, dump trucks, concrete and so on, where cabover can be a great advantage, and in general local transport where one just need to be away a few days at the time. If going towards the OTR segment, they likely had to develop a US style setup with a hood and big sleeper. Why bother with that, when there are other segments to focus at that better suits their cabovers
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Limted to about 110 km/h for US roads
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Until the US trucks catch up..the US truckers can still enjoy many more decades with large comfortable sleepers
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Scania has not seen a big potential enough, a demand, so they have been sitting on the fence. I'm sure they are interested in the US vocational truck segment first of all, where cabovers could been an great advantage in many situations
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Show truck/ demo truck only. No dealer. No cost.
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Really? The Americans love their hooded trucks with big sleepers
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Scania will own it, he will take care of it. Demo truck.
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Yeah, if Scania decide to go for the US market in the future, likely will sales and serivice via their sister company Navistar's departments
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@StarfleetCommand71 I did wonder about it myself for a long time, why tandem drive on highway trucks, and the added dead weight with driven axles. americans are very concerned about keeping dead weight down. I took some time to investigate it one day.
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he has refered to that many times during these last videos
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On the front. Not rear
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Bruce will have it in his place, in Tennessee, as I understand
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It will be, but only as a demo truck owned by the manufacturer. It's a 1 off.
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For what?
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They would had build a factory in the US, yes. A big part of the US market is skeptical to trucks that got no hood and no manual gearbox with a long floor mounted gear stick, and no high noise inside the cab
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