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Comments by "Ayodeji Olowokere" (@ayodejiolowokere1076) on "Africa's Vietnam: Rhodesian Bush War | Animated History" video.

@UzumakiNaruto_ and so you have admitted also race is the sole preoccupation of Rhodesia apologists.
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@UzumakiNaruto_ the human development index in most black majority Caribbean countries is high. The majority of countries in Southern Africa under black majority rule have high standards of living.
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@UzumakiNaruto_ I'm not interested in your attitudes. So I'll stick to data. The Bahamas, Curacao, Jamaica, St. Nevis and Kitts, Botswana, Namibia among others.
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@hankscorpion5016 "dark horde". Okay.
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@UzumakiNaruto_ not that you're interested in anything other than entertaining your humorous desire to belittle.
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@UzumakiNaruto_ anyway, no. If you were bothered to do any study, you would find out Rhodesia was a poor country. Zimbabwe is more developed in every metric. In literacy rates, in urbanization, in infant mortality, in middle class size. You are not as bright as you think.
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@KirkFickert clips of Empire of Dust on YouTube aren't the Chinese. And we learned we were better off without you if nothing else. Also, more like eighty.
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@conayinka why was Germanic Europe not caught up to the Mediterranean until the late Medieval Period? Did they lack the mental capacity and drive until then?
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@UzumakiNaruto_ just say yes. You're not as bright as you think.
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@Pyromanemac even you know that's not true. Though I do enjoy how flustered this leaves you. Countries with HDIs ranging from medium to high are failing? Countries that are not on the top ten of recipient countries are dependent on it? Boy oh boy, the truth can strike a nerve.
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@UzumakiNaruto_ why was Germanic Europe not caught up to the Mediterranean until the late Medieval Period? Did they lack the mental capacity and drive until then?
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@hansyolo8277 they have. Literacy is higher, middle class is bigger and urbanization too.
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@Pyromanemac aren't you a little old to be using memes like "cope" on an unrelated note?
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@conayinka I'm aware. I want him to think.
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@donaldgoodinson7550 it did. Saigon fell.
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@john2g1 probably by not segregating even the educated ones based on race. Probably by not reserving most government funding on five percent of the population as far as education went. Probably by not forcing them onto the worst lands. What are your thoughts though?
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@apollo4619 Rhodesia declared independence to prevent a gradual transition and indefinitely maintain minority rule.
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@daviddavidson2357 95 percent of Rhodesia was poor. Your point is moot.
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@daviddavidson2357 isn't Israel a recipient of US aid? "Black people, who comprised 93% of the population, lived far below the poverty line, subsisting on per capita incomes of $500"- Time Magazine.
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@urmum3773 Rhodesia is dead.
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@urmum3773 the war ended 44 years ago. They mostly are.
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@urmum3773 their children are South African, British, Australian, American or New Zealander. They won't be Rhodesians.
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@urmum3773 they wouldn't. Most identify with their birth places. Not their parents' erstwhile unrecognized country.
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@urmum3773 no. Most people with parents who were in Rhodesia had parents who were born in Britain. Most white adults in Rhodesia were born outside the country. Rhodesians are mostly extinct.
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@donaldgoodinson7550 it lost the war.
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@donaldgoodinson7550 Rhodesia, guy.
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@UzumakiNaruto_ you're a very odd person. Why would you want to rule over other people? Leave them alone.
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@RaffieFaffie it also had nothing to do with the war.
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@Lawrence-se8vb all the ones who were fighting to get their country back.
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@lishnyak1925 Haiti is a better example than other African diaspora Caribbean states, why? And the Bahamas that has a higher standard of living that the Dominican Republic shouldn't be compared to it, why?
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@lishnyak1925 Cry about it. And get your facts straight as you do, it's mostly mestizo.
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@stephenadkison8254 countries that managed themselves to take advantage of that resource? So all the other countries that have a similar resource but never utilized it are just unlucky? And your comment on Namibia is so absurd. The country has grown since apartheid ended, dismantling your case. Now what?
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@lishnyak1925 you can compare Monaco to Luxembourg because they are both small Western European states. Why can't you compare the Bahamas and Haiti despite the fact they are both small Caribbean states?
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@lishnyak1925 Albania, Russia, Ukraine, Moldova wherever you want. Compared to the West, compared to Korea it's a burning mess. According to you, it's because their quality is lower. Your belief not mine.
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@lishnyak1925 it doesn't. There is no reason to ignore all the wealthy Caribbean countries and focus only on Haiti, unless you have an agenda.
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@lishnyak1925 wow. You're actually getting upset. Okay, the success of the Bahamas over the DR must also be genetic according to you.
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@lishnyak1925 Czechia is wealthier than Ukraine because of genes? Belarus is poorer than Singapore because of genes? You poor thing.
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@TheMostDeletedComments which explains why Rhodesia lost, I suppose.
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 @The13thRonin Maintaining Apartheid is moral?
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@Sandbarfight from what?
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@donaldgoodinson7550 yet Rhodesia is dead.
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@donaldgoodinson7550 like in Rhodesia, their enemy accomplished all their goals while all of theirs were frustrated.
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@donaldgoodinson7550 it didn't surrender. Smith agreed to allow ZANU and ZAPU to run despite knowing the UANC stood no chance as did his party. This was capitulation. Van Der Byl wanted to go to the end.
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@Broomtwo Nobody was advocating immediate majority rule until the Rhodesians declared independence to prevent it altogether.
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@john2g1 I responded to you accidentally, my mistake.
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@UzumakiNaruto_ what of reservations that limited Africans to 16 out of 66 seats in parliament on the basis of race?
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@UzumakiNaruto_ that law excluded Africans who qualified. How do you defend that?
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@UzumakiNaruto_ if the world left Northern Europe alone the Germanic peoples and Finns would likely still live in thatched roof huts as well. Progress has always been spurred by contact with other peoples. Yet no people needed a yoke over them to progress. Why should the Africans be ruled over by aliens?
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@UzumakiNaruto_ If the surrounding world had never interacted with Northern Europe, the Germanic peoples and Finns would likely have never progressed beyond thatched roof huts either. Progress has always been spurred by contact with others. A yoke though? No.
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@UzumakiNaruto_ your own vice. The majority of Africans in North America are not involved in illegal activities. In fact, in the US they exceed the average household income.
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What does that have to do with the video though?
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@1pcfred it's not ideal but Southern Rhodesia was even worse.
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@angrydoggo7160 nah. Zimbabwe isn't segregated.
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@angrydoggo7160 they couldn't. It was capped.
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@karlwalters6975 this is false. Seats were reserved based on race. In the 1969 constitution, tax revenue by the entirety of races was used to determine individual representation. Only sixteen Africans could sit in parliament. And eight of those were aristocrats paid by the government.
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@daviddavidson2357 your point is nonsensical. Based on data, Rhodesia was even worse than Zimbabwe.
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@kazam3527 I don't feel like it. Look it up yourself. Compare literacy rates, infant mortalities and urbanization.
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@lishnyak1925 and based on that that explains why Russia and Eastern Europe are such a mess compared to the West and Japan, according to you.
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@lishnyak1925 and your point fails. The scale difference is more like comparing the Netherlands to Germany if you actually use a comparable ratio.
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@lishnyak1925 So North Korea is less developed than South Korea because of genetics? Belarus is less developed than Singapore because of genetics. You poor little baby.
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@lishnyak1925 you ignored everything else. Now you're back tracking because your argument has failed.
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@Donfryesmustache war is politics. Your statement is meaningless.
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@lishnyak1925 then you've destroyed your argument for me. You've admitted you create arbitrary points to determine what measures you determine national success by.
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@lishnyak1925 and tell me. Why haven't you decided to employ that for the difference between Eastern and Western Europe, and North and South Korea?
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@lishnyak1925 learn what a strawman means.
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@lishnyak1925 you didn't.
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@lishnyak1925 when it benefits your argument it's genetic, when it doesn't, it's external factors.
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@lishnyak1925 none of your arguments are based on data. You just repeat yourself in different ways.
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@lishnyak1925 in the 1950s the average of the major US population was 85. Furthermore, poorer people across every cohort have a higher rate of offenses. Your arguments are useless.
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@lishnyak1925 no. You don't. It's a culturally and motivation sensitive test that also sees population scores change across income brackets, and therefore over time.
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@lishnyak1925 you're starting to bore me.
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@lishnyak1925 where are you even from? Ukraine?
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@lishnyak1925 if Asian folk in America have more wealth than the dominant US population, how can they come from environments harsher than Americans of African descent? And how can that be the case if the dominant population has more wealth than black Americans? You just make stuff up.
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@TheMostDeletedComments hence why Rhodesia collapsed, I suppose.
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@jaredmaxwell9225 you arbitrarily dismiss an industry to fit into your preexisting notions. Based on your way of thinking these countries should not have high HDIs at all. The fact you have to randomly dismiss their economic mainstays without justification shows how absurd your position is. And a high HDI is the objective reality not your irrelevant opinion.
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@The13thRonin it's not. Now answer my question.
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@The13thRonin These things happened in Rhodesia. Will you answer now?
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 @urmum3773 and still lost.
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@donaldgoodinson7550 it was a settlement arrived at after the guerillas destroyed the major petrol depot and South Africa pulled support. The rogue government capitulated because it could no longer continue indefinitely.
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@donaldgoodinson7550 the rogue government capitulated after the guerillas successfully destroyed its major petrol depot. After South Africa withdrew support it could no longer continue. This is a defeat.
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@donaldgoodinson7550 the government capitulated after the destruction of its major petrol depot, and the withdrawal of South African support as a result of their loss in confidence of the Rhodesians' ability to pacify the situation. Considering this was all a result of insurgent activity, this was an insurgent military victory.
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@john-rambo-1982 so if you knew Rhodesia was an apartheid state, you'd still support it?
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@robboinnz most white adults were not born there.
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@UzumakiNaruto_ the heck are you on?
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@1pcfred it's more developed than Southern Rhodesia in terms of human development. If you doubt me, look at literacy, life expectancy, infant mortality and urbanization rates. In addition, look at per capita income and keep in mind sites adjust these to the same dollar value.
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@1pcfred it hasn't been ideal but most of the people that take an interest in this topic have a ethnic supremacist bent. They distort the issue to fit their politics as a result. Rhodesia was a terribly underdeveloped state.
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@1pcfred I'd say being ruled against your will by outsiders is the worse of evils in this case.
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@1pcfred no. I'd rather feed myself if it came to that. If that's all your freedom is worth, reserve it for yourself.
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@1pcfred no. I'd rather feed myself if it came to that. If that's all your freedom is worth, reserve that for yourself.
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@1pcfred the country saw even more poverty and food insecurity during the Southern Rhodesian period.
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@1pcfred to be honest, I'm a little surprised, against my better judgement, you're just mindlessly supporting people because, like you, their roots are European. You have no care as to what they were doing or why. Oh well.
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@1pcfred it didn't. The government leased land to foreign nationals whose lands were confiscated. No one ever asked settlers to return.
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@1pcfred it didn't. The government leased land to foreign nationals whose lands were confiscated as a condition for sanctions to be lifted. No one asked settlers to return.
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@1pcfred time and time again, I point out Zimbabwe is more developed. Time and time again, you ignore this to defend people only because they're the same ethnic group as you.
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@1pcfred they didn't. Land was leased as a condition for sanctions to be lifted.
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@1pcfred Unemployment Rate in Zimbabwe decreased to 9.10 percent in 2023 from 9.30 percent in 2022.
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@1pcfred source: Trading Economics.
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@karlwalters6975 it was. There were race curfews and it was segregated. Furthermore, Africans were expelled from lands to open up space for Europeans.
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 @siervodedios5952 the people actively dispossessed do.
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@NemesisEP1 wealthier than it was at least.
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 @shadow6543 Ian Smith was in favor of permanent segregation.
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@daviddavidson2357 fifty out of sixty-six seats in parliament were reserved for Europeans. Everything you've typed is nonsense.
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@daviddavidson2357 and every single country in the region bar none is wealthier than it was during colonization.
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@daviddavidson2357 enough of this delusory nonsense. 1969 constitution reserved seats based on race theorizing in the distant future it would be split 50/50 when the European population had increased to at least half. All the while segregation would be maintained. Until the next 1 000 years or however long it would take, the 50/16 split would be maintained.
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@daviddavidson2357 no. You're literate, you can easily look up stats in the '60s without me spoon-feeding you and compare them to today. And how dare you defend governing a people in their own country without their consent?! Who were the Europeans to determine who would be in government?! Cognitive dissonance for wanting your country back from people who had forced you into reservations and who you didn't vote for? That according to you is the same as the UK's full franchise electing a South Asian? Ireland does export a lot of waste, doesn't it?
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@daviddavidson2357 they weren't allowed in the same facilities. Children could not attend the same schools. They couldn't live in the same neighborhoods. There were race curfews. And as you know the government was structured around race.
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@daviddavidson2357 GDP per capita wise, Zimbabwe is wealthier. And no, Southern Rhodesia exported tobacco and chromium chiefly, not foodstuff. Zimbabwe is still a major producer of tobacco. In Southern Rhodesia, most people lived as hand to mouth farmers. Zimbabwe is literally wealthier.
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@daviddavidson2357 whether World Bank or Statista, any figure you would find is adjusted for inflation. The dollar year is posted.
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@daviddavidson2357 you are willfully ignorant. Situpas were in use for decades prior to the war and the Color Bar was the rule of the day.
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@daviddavidson2357 there were droughts in Southern Rhodesia.
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@daviddavidson2357 and it's not advanced, just wealthier than under European occupation. Not sure what the wheel has to do with it but China never invented the wheel either.
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@daviddavidson2357 the wheel was invented in Mesopotamia or the steppe and spread throughout the globe. Sub Saharan Africa like the Americas was isolated and adopted it upon contact. If we include Kush, it was adopted since antiquity. Educate yourself before speaking.
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@daviddavidson2357 your ignorance is so comical. Wheels used in the Americas and Australia?
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@daviddavidson2357 then recommend it for your own people and leave Africans alone.
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@daviddavidson2357 Rhodesia, obviously.
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@kazam3527 compare urbanization rate, literacy rate, per capita income and child mortality rates.
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@stephenadkison8254 and go ahead my redneck friend, list them.
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@lishnyak1925 not ports, not history, not presence of external forces? So North Korea is poorer than South Korea because of genes. You're a baby.
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@lishnyak1925 Asians in America are wealthier than white Americans. How can they live in harsher environments than black Americans? White Americans are wealthier than black Americans. How can they exist in similar environments? You just make stuff up.
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@lmaololovsky why do you even sympathize with some insignificant racist rogue state?
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@lmaololovsky why do you even support Rhodesia?
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@Jon-wl4bz anti European, how?
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@lmaololovsky not my question.
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@lmaololovsky Rhodesia lost.
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@lmaololovsky what was so beautiful about an oppressive state?
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@lmaololovsky Rhodesia was poorer than Zimbabwe. In per capita income, literacy and urbanization this is evident. If you think this it seems you're describing yourself.
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@lmaololovsky yet you refuse to verify it. Southern Rhodesia saw more poverty and food insecurity than Zimbabwe.
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@lmaololovsky you didn't. You just repeated yourself.
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@lmaololovsky I don't have to but you should take up more reading and less Internet baiting.
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@lmaololovsky find something better to do. Trolling should be beneath you.
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@lmaololovsky all these countries are wealthier than they were during colonization and minority rule.
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@jaredmaxwell9225 Africa was much poorer in the 60s. Read more than Internet comments. You might learn something.
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@Carnefice and why couldn't they leave them alone?
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@Carnefice not that I took you seriously before but this really takes the guess work out with you.
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 @Griff00 why? The "internal settlement" was just an illegal occupation of settlers acting with a few hand picked minions against the wishes of an electorate they had abused for decades.
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LittleDolfie you're a Neo Nazi?
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LittleDolfie you're a neo Nazi?
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LittleDolfie you're a neo-Nazi?
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LittleDolfie you're far right?
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LittleDolfie no.
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 @georgechristie9464 The country was split into white and black areas.
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