Comments by "Stevie" (@matthewhorizon6050) on "UFC 241: Daniel Cormier vs. Stipe Miocic | Joe Rogan and Dan Hardy" video.
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Graeme Yamaha
I've been watching this sport before you were shittin mustard. Dan's accomplishments -- in a serious manner -- are associated strictly with the UFC and Pride. Fighting Fador's washed up ass at HW was a joke and SF was a joke. Periodically they'd have solid talent fluxing in and out, such as Nick and Rockhold, but Strickforce was that land of misfit toys and new talent; it was not to be taken seriously.
Hendo was one of the only free agent fighters at that time of the Fador fight, so he faught bums mostly during that period, unless he was taking fights in the UFC. Dan had a few welter fights way back then reemerged at WW again in Pride for a couple fights, just like LHW. He beat 2 or 3 legit fights at that weight and that was when Dan was a fuckin monster. But in his own words, he said the weight cuts were killing him and he felt more powerful and fresher at middleweight. You honestly think Dan was a legit heavyweight? EXACTLY, I know you don't. And although he had a few good wins in his prime at LHW is was only 2 or 3 fights. We can go in circles but no ones going to convince me that Dan wasn't his best at middleweight.
By the time he came back to the UFC for the third time he was past his prime. The 1st fight w Shogun was his last shinning moment, but in truth, Shogun was done at that point too.
You dont seem like a casual and obviously you pay attention to the sport, but your points seem off kilter. You're more wrapped into ad hominem attacks than logic.
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@LandfillProductions
Strikeforce never had the depth of high caliber fighters, such as Pride and the UFC. If you disagree, I'm not sure what to say.
Some people think One and Bellator are on par w the UFC. I think they arnt seeing the entire picture. Said organizations have quality fighters but the depth of their weight classes leaves much to be desired. If you disagree then is seems you dont tune in as much as required to hold a reasonable conversation on this matter.
Many of the UFC champs, both former and current, who held championships in other organizations left for a reason -- there was nothing there for them. For instance, at Bellator, Lovato Jr and Gegard were the two best middleweights. The Russians are questionable, because they have not been tested against worthy competition. A division needs more than 2-3 fighters to be considered legit. That said, Bellators welterweight division is for real!
In light of the aforementioned statement, I believe these organizations are catching up but they are not there yet.
STRIKEFORCE WAS NEVER AS STAKED AS THESE contemporary B-LEAGUE ORGANIZATIONS (One and Bellator). So yeah, Strikeforce was corny. As I said before, they had solid fighters -- momentarily -- at the infancy of their careers, OR practitioners who didnt resign w Pride or UFC over negotiations issues.
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