Comments by "Sar Jim" (@sarjim4381) on "South American Dreadnoughts - The Race Is On!" video.

  1. And fast forward to 2018 and planes and submarines are the battleships of today. Although Brazil once again had a second hand carrier, this time French rather than British, the worn out condition of the carrier combined with several major fires since being brought on strength in 2000 led to her decommissioning in 2017 and probable scrapping. Given the need for the Brazilians to have something that looked like a carrier in the fleet, she scrambled to make the British and offer they couldn't refuse and purchased the ex-HMS Ocean, renaming her the Atlantico. Since she is a mere 20 years old, the youngest major ship purchased from another navy since the Brooklyn class light cruisers in 1951, there's some chance that she may remain in service for another 15 years or so as a helicopter carrier. The dreams of Brazil to operate a true fixed wing carrier appear to be dashed at the moment. Argentina and Chile are no longer major players in South America. Argentina is in deep financial trouble, and her surface fleet has been relegated to possibly a few corvettes. Chile maintains a much more effective navy, but the youngest combat ships are the ex British Duke class frigates at 28 years old with other classes now being 30 years old or or older. Chilleans now seem content to control the Pacific coastline of her long borders while maintaining a navy strong enough to dissuade the Argentine and Peruvian Navies from any mischief. Speaking of Peru, while she wasn't part of the early 20th century arms race, she has now modernized most of her vessels and is probably the equal of Chile and much stronger than Argentina. The newest race is for submarines and naval aircraft. The Brazilians are still talking about building a nuclear sub, and Brazil, Peru, and Chile will all have air-independent submarines sometime in the 2020's. AI subs will be the new Dreadnoughts of the 21st century. Brazil is looking toward Embraer to build a new maritime patrol aircraft that would be the equal of the P-3 Orion, as well as maintaining their current fleet of upgraded Skyhawks, aircraft that don't have a carrier to operate from after a long battle with the Air Force to allow the Navy to operate fixed wing combat aircraft. There are rumors that Peru is in talks with Russia for a new maritime patrol platform as well as new SU-35s that could serve as maritime strike aircraft. Chile may cooperate with Brazil and Embraer in purchasing a new maritime patrol aircraft while continuing to upgrade its considerable fleet of F-16s. The Dreadnought race may be over but the arms race in South America continues unabated.
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  2.  @LucioFercho  No, I'm American. I refuse to get drawn into this kind of nationalistic pissing match when I have no dog in the fight. I was merely relating what I've read from other reasonably authoritative sources like Janes. You may draw whatever conclusions you like. I really don't care.
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  3.  @LucioFercho  I already told you my nationality and how I arrived at my conclusions. I don't know any Peruvians. You'll have to find a Peruvian to fight with. As I said, I really don't care.
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  4.  @LucioFercho  Well, I have to assume you're Chilean. I'm not about to get into a pissing match with you about relative strengths of the two navies except to say the Peruvians have embarked on a modernization program encompassing all six of their Type 209/1100 and 1200 submarines, modernization of all their guided missile frigates, and have taken delivery of two new Korean built 11,000 ton landing platform docks. If you think that's the sign of second rate navy in South America then your nationalism is overcoming your rationalism.
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  5.  @fernandomarques5166  There was also another major fire that caused casualties in 2012.
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  6.  @lfbq1935  Makes perfect sense to me. Investing in air independent subs rather than nukes and a creditable surface fleet fits in more with Brazil's needs as the largest country in South America. Nuclear subs and carriers aren't a lot different in terms of real naval need than the vast amounts of money spent on battleships at the turn of the last century.
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