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Comments by "Sar Jim" (@sarjim4381) on "KCCCP Storozhevoy - Guide 123" video.
@Sarsol1989 Neither the Soviet nor Russian navy had/has official ship prefixes. This has lead to a plethora of made up prefixes to help identify naval vessels. My suggestion would be USSRS for Soviet ships and RFS for Russian ships.
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The Tashkent was built in Italy as the single member of what was supposed be a four ship class, with the last three built in Russian shipyards. It was a much different ship that the Storozhevoy class, nearing the length and tonnage a small light cruiser. At 43.5 knots in light condition on trials, she was probably the fastest large ship ever constructed.
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@TheAngelobarker No, it was designed and built in taly. It had some French elements that the Italians incorporated in the design, but the ship was definitely an overall Italian design.
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@TheAngelobarker Okay, I guess I didn't understand your point. First you said it was based on a French design and now you say it was actually a copy of an Italian cruiser. My point was the Tashkent was not based on any French design. She had a few elements of French design, but the Soviets went to OTO for the design and build because the French were unwilling to share any ship design details with them.
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@TheAngelobarker Maybe Drach will weigh in here on the subject. As I said, the Italians appropriated some French ideas, especially the high power to weight ratio, but the design was Italian from everything I've read. His library is considerably larger than mine, so he may have a source I don't.
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@gamarus0kragh There was a top speed "war" between the French and Italians in the years leading up to WWII. Each country tried to convince the other that their so-called super destroyers were the fastest. There was a fair bit of manipulation on trials runs with fuel and water reduced to the minimums needed for the run. Crew were also reduced to the minimums needed for the runs along with ammunition and provisions. The Italian Capitani Romani class vessels were the Le Fantastique competitors, and their trial runs weren't quite as manipulated. The Italian vessels had a top speed on trials of 43 knots while the fastest Le Fantastique, Le Terrible, reach a little over 45 knots. In reality, the placement of the aft turrets and machinery on the Fantastiques meant they trimmed down at the stern by almost two meters at top speed. Running at that speed for more than about 15 minutes created a following wave that washed over the stern and caused damage to some the equipment. The realistic sustained speed of the Le Fantastiques, Capitani Romanis, and Tashkent were all between 37 and 38 knots, still very fast for large ships.
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@gamarus0kragh There's an account of the trials run of Le Terrible in a book called French Destroyers: Torpilleurs d'Escadre & Contre-Torpilleurs 1922–1956. It's an excellent book that covers all the French destroyers during that period. It's available for about $40. Last I looked, the Kindle version was more expensive than a new hardcover book. All of the Fantastiques had sustained cruising speed of 37-38 knots depending on how overloaded they got after refits. Full power flank speeds were around 40 knots, again depending on when they came over to the allies side and got extra guns and equipment installed. Any speed above 40 knots was highly unlikely for a true in service vessel.
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