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Comments by "Thor" (@rodster811) on "How the End of Roe v. Wade is Impacting Americans" video.
Telling men and women to take responsibility for the life they created because they couldn't keep their pants on isn't human rights violation.
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@marilynwest4647 "Forcing someone to stay pregnant against their will is the human rights violation." Telling men and women to take responsibility for the life they created because they couldn't keep their pants on isn't human rights violation. "Oh and abortion is a very responsible" It is not. Destroying another human being because you were being irresponsible is not being responsible. That is the exact opposite of being responsible. "but even if it weren't" It's not if, it isn't. "till not your call, not your body." Isn't the body of the women either. Either remain consistent or get a new argument because it's no longer just your body. 'ETA the man...." It takes two to tango. It takes two to take care of the life. Until women can get pregnant without men your attempt to disregard men as important part of the growth and life of a child has failed.
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@wPleasur3 "pro lifers don’t really care about people’s lives." You just made this up.
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😂😂😂... Oh you're serious
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@wPleasur3 "You just lack comprehension and social awareness." You making stuff up doesn't require comprehension or social awareness.
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@wPleasur3 You didn't address what you made up in your first comment. "pro lifers don’t really care about people’s lives." You decide to deflect instead. Don't worry I noticed. "A society that shames women for having an abortion yet will still shame them when they ask for help to raise a child." You just made this up. There might be stigma around having a child out of wedlock but people will still help a single mother and when they ask for help they don't shame them for needing help. Destroying innocent life isn't the answer to solving those problem. "How reducing access to abortion greatly impacts the upbringing of a child" You forgot the part when having abortion kills the child. Don't act like you care about the child when you advocate for their destruction. You're just a virtue signaling hypocrite. "yet are underfunded and scrutinized in a society that believes people need to fend for themselves." A society that relies on the government is a society that is controlled by the government. You'd should want to be independent from the government. "It is detrimental to the economy and increases the likelihood of crime and other mental health and or substance issues." This is false. These do not correlate with abortion. These correlate with fatherless homes and increased single motherhood.
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I bet you thought you said something here
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@dsiepiela6449 "Unwanted children are not cherished" They are wanted. You have to find the person that wants them instead of destroying them. Shame on you and those that want to destroy the life of an innocent child. Foster care kids are also loved and find very loving homes and families I know because I was one of those kids. I don't pay it forward like you do by advocating for their destruction.
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@dsiepiela6449 Being never adopted is a horrible excuse to destroy a human life. I worked in a foster home so I have seen a plethora of foster kids loved, taken care of, living successful lives, now they have families of their own. Most them got adopted the one's that didn't still lived good lives and run business of their own.
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@dsiepiela6449 That's a horrible justification to keep destroying innocence. What excuses are you going to keep telling yourself before stop advocating for the destruction of a human life.
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@dsiepiela6449 "Over population is destroying human life. 1/4 of humanity has No access to clean drinking water." So destroying more life is the answer?? "How many kids have you adopted?" Four How many kids I've adopted is irrelevant. I still wouldn't advocate for their destruction like you're doing.
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@dsiepiela6449 You don't need to adopt in order to care about the destruction of a child. Those that care about the unborn typically care about the born as well.
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@dsiepiela6449 "Adopters are rare." You just made this up "Actions always speak louder than words" Doesn't mean you have to adopt a child in order to be against human destruction.
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@dsiepiela6449 That doesn't mean that adopters are rare. Children get adopted on the regular.
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@draw4kicks "Cult" Cue the Princess bride line You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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Then don't have sex if you aren't going to take on the responsibility that comes with procreation
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@OrcFriedRice "Sex isn't a crime and requires no punishment." I never made such a claim that it was. "Whether you choose to carry a fetus to term, or abort it, both are taking responsibility." Terminating a life that one creates is not being responsible that is a horrible you are telling yourself. "Please consider why you are so angry people have sex" You just made this up. I am not angry. Assumptions aren't arguments. Try again. "For many people, outside of procreation, sex is a beautiful expression of love and commitment." Whether you like it or not sex is how we reproduce and that's in number one purpose. You can enjoy because and I shame no one that enjoys in it's proper way but don't trick yourself into thinking that it has big consequence if you aren't intending having a baby out of it. The excuses people like you make to justify destruction of the innocents is gross.
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@OrcFriedRice "I never said you did, but it is necessary to point out as people believe and act as if it is a punishment." You implied it by bringing it up. It's a consequence not a punishment. No one is making a legit argument that it is a punishment. "Abortion is taking responsibility." It is not. Destroying another human being because you were being irresponsible is not being responsible. That is the exact opposite of being responsible. "No person has the right to use your body and organs against your will." By this logic you also can't destroy the body of another human being. Either remain consistent or get a new argument because it's no longer just your body. "Sex is more than just procreation, whether you like it or not." The main purpose of sex is to procreate you seem to have a hard time accepting that basic truth of reality. It can be enjoyable and etc. but it doesn't take away from it's ultimate purpose. "Forcing people into being livestock is not the answer." Destroying another human being isn't the answer. "Abortion isn't wrong" It absolutely is. The destruction of an innocent human being is absolutely evil and show be condemned. Never claimed sex to be wrong. Never claimed accidental pregnancy to be wrong. Abortion is not only wrong but a great evil that should never be accepted as a good thing.
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@OrcFriedRice "because it is relevant to the rhetoric you are using." It is irrelevant because I don't see having children planned or unplanned as a punishment. You're the only one viewing it through that scope. "Abortion is not evil and is not destroying another person." It quite literally is the destruction of another human. If you don't think that is evil then you are also evil. "If I hooked myself up to you to use your organs to continue my life, you'd have every right to end that usage" False equivalence. You didn't make the decision to commit the only act that creates another human being. These are not the same situation, you're inconsistent with your logic. A child grows it's own organs. Grows it's own legs and everything else. "A main purpose, not the only purpose" Never made the claim that it was it's only purpose. It's the main purpose and the biggest purpose. "People are going to have sex whether they want a baby or not. If they get pregnant and don't want to stay pregnant, abortion is taking responsibility, just not in the way YOU would like." Destroying an innocent life is not responsible. The denial and metal gymnastics you play to justify evil will stain your soul. If you think that destruction of a innocent human being is responsible then you are truly evil. "I'm sorry you feel the need to treat other people, person's who are actually here, like cattle on behalf of the non-existent." I am sorry you have to justify evil because of the only action taken that creates another life. Your dehumanization of the most vulnerable should be something to be proud and you should taken inventory check of the evil think is okay to commit. Abortion is not only wrong but a great evil that should never be accepted as a good thing.
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@OrcFriedRice "Then stop trotting out "consequences" or "responsibility." Why else would they be relevant." When you commit actions they have reactions that you must take responsibility for. If you want to have sex but don't intend to have a baby from it but end having a baby that would be a consequence. Consequence doesn't always mean a bad thing. Even good or smart decisions have consequences. Not every consequence is a punishment. Most consequence I'd argue can be good lessons if you're self aware enough. Consequence: "a result or effect of an action or condition." "Even if you are the cause of why I need your organs to survive, that doesn't give me the right to use your body." Doesn't give you the right to destroy my body either. You're being logically inconsistent again. "Abortion is not evil. The majority of abortions are done before an embryo even becomes a person." Just because some doesn't have any arms, legs, etc. doesn't mean they are less of person. It is evil to destroy a human because they don't experience all the things you have experienced. Abortion is an evil. "Regardless, it has no right to continue to use a person's body against their will." You have no right to destroy their body because you won't be responsible for the actions you took. "Forcing that is the true evil." Destroying the innocent and most vulnerable among us is the greatest evil of this society. The fact that you have to jump so many hoops to justify that evil is gross. How about instead of advocating for the destruction of another life. You tell men and women to be responsible for their actions but you won't do that because you already born. "You fight for nothing and no one over the PEOPLE who are here telling you that they are suffering." You fight for the destruction of life and justify it by dehumanizing them.
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Notice how the people advocating for the destruction of innocent life have already been born.
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It's evil and should definitely be illegal.
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😂😂😂... Oh you're serious
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@JaneFleesTexas "I don’t really think you understand this issue" Pot calling the kettle black. "woman/pregnant person" You can just say woman. "that abortion care would save them" 😂😂😂😂..... Oh you're serious "They ignore sentient, real humans in front of them saying what they want for their own bodies and lives." You realize that the child in the womb is also human right. Your attempt at dehumanization is gross. "They either don’t understand and haven’t read about this issue" Pot calling the kettle black. "I do believe most bans are based in a misogynistic view that women are only vessels." Then you would be wrong in your bogus thinking. "co-opt the language of civil/human rights but don’t actually understand what that means" Pot calling the kettle black. "There’s literally articles, videos and podcasts daily that describe women suffering through inevitable miscarriages, being turned away with ectopic pregnancies and those whose lives are put as risk over non-viable pregnancies." Source: "trust me bro" "Pregnancy Justice is a group that is trying to represent pregnant people whom states have interfered with their high risk pregnancies." You just call them women. Nobody is gonna cancel you if you do.
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@aeviefx5374 Your comment made no sense.
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"They don't care about children" You just made this up
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"abortion is being responsible" 😂😂😂😂..... Oh you're serious
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@arkyboi "It's a more responsible solution" It is not. It is the exact opposite of responsibility. Destroying a human being is not a responsible action.
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You just made that up
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"hypocrisy" Cue the Princess Bride Line: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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Destroying a child isn't a freedom.
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Just like how pro-choice is just pro-abortion
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@arcanineryu "Cult" Cue the Princess Bride Line: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Destroying another human being isn't a right.
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@arcanineryu "if I leave fruit on the counter until it grows mold, I will be directly responsible for the development of life that is about as alive as the zygote" Wrong. Try again. "yall are trying to enslave women over in order to force them to carry to term." Telling men and women to take responsibility for the life they created because they couldn't keep their pants on is not enslavement. "Yall religious wack jobs not understanding the different categories of what qualifies as alive" Pot calling the kettle black.
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@reginajanelilianapatterson5838 "So, you are one of those people who say that pregnancy (which you'd want to force a woman to complete) is a 'consequence'." If two people have sex but aren't intended on making child then yes that would be a consequence from having sex. "You want to make a woman, in particular, to 'accept the consequences of letting a very natural need to overtake her" Nope. I want MEN and WOMEN to take responsibility for their action that created a life. "Not once do i hear anything about forcing a man to stick around and raise the child" Then you weren't reading my comments because I said "Telling men and women to take responsibility for the life they created because they couldn't keep their pants on isn't human rights violation. " "Telling men and women to take responsibility for the life they created because they couldn't keep their pants on is not enslavement." "Telling men and women to take responsibility for the life they created because they couldn't keep their pants on isn't human rights violation." Each of my replies I said men and women if you're gonna respond at least read what I said first. I didn't edit them either as you can see so you know I didn't add them in. The only comment I have edited so far is this one.
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@marilynwest4647 "is just theatrics, you've stepped on bugs that were more developed." Sorry you view the truth as "theatrics" not my fault you can't handle the truth. That's a YOU problem. "Wow you've got no logic whatsoever" Not an argument. Try again.
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@reginajanelilianapatterson5838 "From a religious (Judeo-Christian) standpoint, Human life isn't regarded as Human until first breath anyway" This is FALSE. You just made this up. The way you lie with ease is gross. "Better just to leave women be and quit dictating to us what we can and cannot do with our bodies and anything in them." You dropped that men responsibility thing quick. Don't destroy anymore innocent life and do whatever you like with your body I don't care.
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@reginajanelilianapatterson5838 "Is it false? " Yes. If you actually had read the bible then you would have known that. Would you care to show me where the Bible states life is sacred?" I am not the one making biblical argument against abortion. You are the one who brought up the bible. I have no obligation to provide you proof based on biblical texts because I never used the bible to make my argument. " I can find Scripture that supports what I'm saying " You can't because you made it up. But keep spouting that BS. "As for dropping the "man responsibility" thing, it was initially said to make a point." A point that was proven wrong when you decided just respond instead of read what I said and then respond. Your fake outrage was exposed "You and I both know men will never be forced to take the same responsibility conservative want to force on women." You just made this up. Making stuff up isn't a good debate tactic. Get another tactic. "Men can do what they want, practically scot-free." You just made this up. Making stuff up isn't a good debate tactic. Get another tactic. "Women are the ones they want to control. it's literally ALWAYS been that way since antiquity. Do you deny it?" You just made this up. Making stuff up isn't a good debate tactic. Get another tactic. "Tis is about freedom to choose, not being forced one way or another." You do not have the freedom to destroy another human being. The excuses you make to justify that evil is gross and should be condemn by society. "If you don't believe in abortion, yourself, then don't get one. Freedom works both ways." Don't like slavery don't own a slave.
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@marilynwest4647 You're asking both sexes to commit the only act that produces another life and then destroy that life because they are to selfish to face the music for the actions they committed
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Destroying a human life is not a right.
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You just made that
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@user-se5ef5pl3o You are correct.
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@camaraman645 The child's
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You're quite evil
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Wrong. Try again
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So long as she doesn't destroy the child. Then decide whatever you like.
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You just made that up
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@skyknight1983 Not made up but aye we'll all meet him eventually I just hope you have Jesus when you do.
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@skyknight1983 "Religion was created by humans to control humans" Wrong. Try again. When you meet him be sure keep that same energy. I pray you have Jesus when you do though. Pride is not a good look to be wearing when meeting the creator.
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You just made that up
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@xelasomar4614 Wrong. Try again.
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@xelasomar4614 Wrong. Try again. "We still don’t have a final answer, but new evidence has contributed to an increasing consensus that consciousness starts early, in contrast with other theories that claim we need more cognitive development and brain maturation for babies to become conscious" -NYU Your attempt at dehumanization has failed.
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@xelasomar4614 "Not yet fully functional" meaning that there is some function This doesn't help your justification to destroy an innocent human being
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@xelasomar4614 "until then, it is not a human being." It is a human being throughout. It doesn't just magical become one. It's not a dog or cat or horse. It's human from conception all the way through their elder years. Personhood is properly defined by membership in the human species, not by stage of development within that species. Your attempt and dehumanization has failed
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@xelasomar4614 That is absolutely false. A human being is a human being regardless of all those things. It doesn't just magical become one. It's not a dog or cat or horse. It's human from conception all the way through their elder years and into their death. They could be dead 15 years and they would still be human. It doesn't become or turn into something else. Your denial of the truth is a YOU problem that you need to figure out. Nothing supports what you have just said about it not being human. Your attempt at dehumanization has failed
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This was the biggest word salad of the day.
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"Protect current and future generations" Killing them in the womb isn't protecting them. "Our ancestors left their lives for those rights so that we can live in dignity." There is no right to the destruction of another human being.
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@Raja1938 Wrong. Try again.
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@st-xk4cj Okay and???
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Someone explain the obsession with destroying another human being.
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