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What Ukraine needs is peace and no more war.
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The way we had Poland's back in 1939. Or Czechoslovakia's in 1938. Lol.
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@Ton07ju — Russian troops conducting military exercises well within Russian borders does not an invasion force make. —
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@Ton07ju "Suspicion" is still not an invasion. When they invade you can call it an invasion. Until then.... No doubt the Russians did this to intimidate and deter but they still did it within their own borders.
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@Ton07ju Agreed. But what if you were going around threatening your neighbours, recently emancipated slaves and native Americans say, and also threatening to sieze territory that a local native tribe had just reclaimed in a bloodless takeover supported by most of the indigenous inhabitants – who also just happened to be of the same tribe – territory their ancestors had previously gifted to you with certain conditions attached, like respect for the rights of the people already living there and continuing to allow them to make use of the harbours and rivers, which you were flagrantly violating? Now who's threatening whom? (I suppose they are both coming across as threatening from the perspective of the other. That said, to outsiders at least I think most of us will still be able to make a moral judgement as to who is being the most unreasonable).
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@donaldhysa4836 The comparison is between the native Americans and the European settlers of the USA. I thought the analogy was apt and would be understood. Maybe I was mistaken. Let me explain. The Ukrainians are akin to the European settlers, threatening both the Russians across the border and fellow Russian Ukrainians (neighbours, indians, slaves – people who share the same territory). The native tribe are the Russians taking back the Crimean Penninsular, a territory formally belonging to them and akin to native Americans deciding that they wanted to take back the land on which the colonial settlement of Jonestown was located because the colonists were threatening them.
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@donaldhysa4836 And neither are the native‐born ethnic Russians who have lived in that part of what is not Ukraine for several generations. Indeed, ethnic Russians and those who identify as ethnic Ukrainians are virtually identical yet a small subset of the latter want to culturally expunge the former.
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@donaldhysa4836 I'm not using it to justify an invasion because the Russians have not invaded. They are, and remain, on their side of the border. And in what significant way do Ukrainians and Russians differ? The Ukrainian and Russian languages are so similar that they can usually be easily understood by both groups and both groups use both languages interchangeably, switching between them when necessary. Ukrainian is, I'm given to believe, more like a dialect of Russian than a separate language. Also, Ukraine was an integral part of Russia for like 300 years and was never an independent sovereign state. Like Belarus, Ukraine shared the same school system used throughout the Soviet Union so until 1989 both groups would have had the same education. The differences between them are largely artifical or exaggerated.
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@donaldhysa4836 Well technically, yes, they have invaded the territory of Ukraine but there was a plebiscite held there in which an overwhelming number voted to rejoin the Russian Federation of which they were a part until 1989, the Crimean peninsula being merely an administrative district that just happened to be assigned to the jurisdiction of Ukraine in the 1960's for bureaucratic reasons. And the majority of the population self‐identify as ethnic Russian. So basically the Russians are taking back part of their country. They have not annexed any other part of Ukraine and not Galicia, the only part of Ukraine that can make any claim to not be Russian in character. And when you say the Ukrainians I think you're really talking about some extremists nurtured by the USA and brought to power in a coup d'etat. The fascists in Kiev are the equivalent of ISIS in Libya, Al‐Quaida in Afghanistan and Al‐Shebab in Africa – paramilitary organisations created by and under the control of the USA military‐intelligence apparatus who have seized power and have terrorised the population into compliance. It's as if the Klu Klux Clan had taken over the USA – how popular would that be?
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@donaldhysa4836 I though I was just opinionated. Have a good day/night. 👋
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Bombing German cities and civilian population centres that had no strategic value in a bid to goad the Germans into attacking British cities instead of military airfields and therefore take pressure of the airforce, while military expedient and cynically pragmatic is nothing to brag about.
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